阿里“落刀”，难平众怒

新浪科技2021-08-09

阿里味儿，变了吗？阿里文化，病了吗？或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？今天凌晨5点，阿里巴巴公布了“女员工被侵犯”事件处理决定：同城零售事业群总裁李永和和HRG徐昆引咎辞职，阿里巴巴首席人力资源官童文红记过处分，涉嫌男员工被辞退，永不录用，其是否存在违法行为，警方正在调查取证。 “这种种现象的背后是HR文化体系和能力的建设出现了重大问题”，张勇罕见地在24小时内二次发声：“我们必须重塑...

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25d459fd
2021-08-09
25d459fd
鬧了半天了。大家都沒看到任何證據。只跟隨女主自己的話術來判斷。中國大衆的判斷能力就這樣了？可笑，可悲。
- 喵喵静Reply25d459fd:
  你根本没看阿里的通告，懒得跟你争辩！单出差这段你就错了！加上被踢出群，还有事件的发酵，都是内部看不过的员工做的，这事情在微博早有了，8000字文章在派传单前就有了！而且本来就是qj！迫使女当事人极端维权，是警察把人放了！本来qj就难取证！但监控和房卡问题有本质证据！对于正常受害者有罪论的人，祝你家人遇到同样事情！
- 25d459fd:
  当初的舆论可是以QJ的名义。那个出差本身是已经提前都安排了，并不是突发的。高管反应太慢所以被开除了。7.28号发生，女当事人8.2号向公司汇报此时。8.6号男当事人被停职等待警方调查。停职时间慢是高管的问题。
- 喵喵静:
  阿里都自锤了！ [无语] [无语]就在开头那段，难道你不会看？但凭嫌疑犯承认的过度接触行为，加上聊天记录上的强迫出差，就已经够啦！你以为阿里没证据随便开除高管，处罚顶层？
MajorJackpot
2021-08-09
MajorJackpot
Ali Flavor gone bad!
被幸运女神眷顾的男人
2021-08-09
被幸运女神眷顾的男人
直跌100?

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24 小时的审讯，依然正常上班、对接工作。\n\n直至事情在社交媒体爆发，舆论发酵，外界压力之下，公司才开始正面处理。\n根据阿里最新财报显示，阿里员工数已超过25万，这是一个庞大的团队。有人说，“林子大了什么鸟都有”，这么大的公司，有几个坏分子正常。\n这话听起来有点道理，但在这件事情中，让网友更气愤的是从管理层到HR的态度——当事女员工曾4次主动向阿里HR和P10级别领导反馈、沟通，但被推诿、置之不理，未能伸张正义。\n阿里首席人才官蒋芳在内网回应称，7月28日，女同事上报公司之后，因为没有警方的定论，没有在第一时间对涉事人员进行停职处理，并将行动缓慢的原因归结于教条、应急机制不够健全。\n但外界并不认为只是内部应急机制不健全这么简单，网友将质疑的矛头指向阿里价值观、企业文化出现偏差——“当你在阳光下看见了一只蟑螂，说明阴暗处已经挤不下了。”\n低俗“投名状”\n阿里巴巴的官网显示，集团有六个价值观，“客户第一，员工第二，股东第三；因为信任，所以简单；此时此刻，非我莫属；认真生活， 快乐工作......”这也被阿里自豪地称为“六脉神剑”，对于集团如何经营业务、招揽人才、考核员工以及决定员工报酬扮演着重要的角色。\n然而，时至今日，接连发生的负面桃色事件，大概也只让外界记住了这家公司不太“互联网”和逐渐走偏的风气，比如酒桌文化、破冰文化、高管婚外情丑闻。\n实际上就在一个月前，阿里内网曾经“爆”过一次，一个男员工脚踏几条船，最终被人公之于众，引发女性员工不满，并有多名女性称遇到过类似遭遇。\n但这只是冰山一角，丑闻频现的根源来自于文化。\n其中，“破冰文化”已然成为了“低俗”、“恶臭”、“骚扰”、“性骚扰”的代名词。在微博热搜#阿里 破冰文化#话题下，网友翻出几年前的“破冰游戏”图片，并表示在阿里，应届毕业的女生入职第一天，会被问很多隐私、低俗的问题。阿里方面随后发声否认：“阿里破冰文化”的截图系2018年的谣言，当时阿里巴巴已经辟谣，图中所涉人士并非阿里巴巴员工，也非阿里巴巴内部培训。\n不过，也有不少前阿里人发声，证实了阿里“破冰文化”的存在，并称这种风气在以前更加严重，尤其在销售相关的部门。\n实际上，早在2018年左右，就有不少吐槽的声音出现在社交媒体上。有内部员工表示，“阿里有‘价值观’考核，绩效的一部分，直接与奖金相关。‘价值观’考核标准通常是：是否能融入、甚至是否能组织这类活动。”无法忍受“性骚扰”文化，也是其从阿里离职的原因之一。\n一位知乎答主表示，这种“破冰仪式”在国内互联网还不在少数，其实这就相当于投名状，让你干一件平常干不了的事，从此以后，就算自己人了。所谓：“一起同过窗，一起扛过枪，一起分过赃，一起XXX。”才是关系最好。\n\n如今，这样的“破冰文化”在集团内部的明面上可能已经消失了，但对阿里来说，却是无法抹去的耻辱。而那些遗留下的不良风气和价值观，也反映在后面发生的很多事情上，一点点腐蚀着阿里这座互联网大厂的名声和形象。\n巨浪压顶\n一家公司在快速发展和扩张的过程中，利用文化治企常常能起到事半功倍的作用。作为一家五千多亿美元市值的互联网企业，实际上，阿里组织文化经历了漫长的成长和磨练。而阿里也曾在这方面树立了标杆，被很多企业效仿。\n马云曾在2018年的一次公开讲话中表示，“阿里人和其他人的区别，就是我们有阿里味”。\n什么是阿里味？“就是我们是一帮有情有义的人，去做一些有意义的事情。我们有理想主义色彩，我们务实，我们不断地改变自己，拥抱变化。在所有的阿里老员工，离开的人身上，我觉得这是最珍贵、最难得的品质。”\n他提到，衡量一个公司的好坏，不仅仅是看产品和技术，最重要的是看他员工素质的好坏。他的员工有理想，有使命感，有价值观，那他的产品和服务一定有理想，有使命感，有价值观。\n\n然而从酒桌文化、破冰文化，再到蒋凡事件，以及996等新闻。“阿里味儿”在外界看来，正在变味。\n不可否认，阿里巴巴有20多万的员工，个别业务团队出现了问题，并不代表所有阿里人都是这样。\n阿里巴巴合伙人、市场公关委员会主席王帅在其个人社交平台称，“请相信我们依然是处于安全的环境这类事件是偶发，绝对不是常态，别担心。在阿里这9年，我从没被要求过，也没听说过有女同事要去陪酒或做其他超越底线的事情。这不是阿里的工作方式，请放心。”\n不过，种种负面事件，对于阿里的教训显然是惨痛的。更何况当下的阿里，亦处在发展的特殊时期，正面临严峻的挑战和危机。\n此前，受反垄断影响，阿里收到了市场监管总局依法作出行政处罚决定，责令其停止违法行为，并处以其2019年中国境内销售额4557.12亿元4%的罚款，计182.28亿元。在处罚发生后的第一份财报中，阿里迎来上市以来首次季度亏损。\n而根据阿里前不久发布的财报，阿里整体营收低于市场预期、季度净利润下降，反垄断影响仍在持续。此外，蚂蚁集团上市暂缓，一系列整改后，今年一季度净利润的下滑，阿里从蚂蚁集团获得的投资收益环比也大幅下降。\n此外，此次事件中，阿里也可能将面临在名誉危机之外的相关民事责任。\n有律师表示，如果当事人承认或者有监控影像资料等证据，那么违法行为一般就可以认定了。在这种情况下，阿里作为企业，如果未尽到合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，也应当承担民事赔偿责任。根据《民法典》第一千零一十条规定：以言语、文字、图像、肢体行为等方式对他人实施性骚扰的，受害人有权依法请求行为人承担民事责任，机关、企业、学校等单位应当采取合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，防止和制止利用职权、从属关系等实施性骚扰。\n一再的舆论危机，让阿里的企业文化和价值观蒙上了一层厚厚的灰。但公众对阿里诸多的负面评价已巨浪压顶。滴水成海，阿里已进入危险时刻。","kind":"news","is_publish_news":true,"is_publish_highlight":false,"is_publish_live":false,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"column":"","sentiment":"0","news_tag":"","news_rank":0,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1,"need_auth":false,"code":"91000000","status":"200"},"commentList":[{"id":898107437,"gmtCreate":1628476306529,"gmtModify":1703506670957,"author":{"id":"3465431827100262","authorId":"3465431827100262","name":"25d459fd","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3465431827100262","idStr":"3465431827100262"},"htmlText":"鬧了半天了。大家都沒看到任何證據。只跟隨女主自己的話術來判斷。中國大衆的判斷能力就這樣了？可笑，可悲。","listText":"鬧了半天了。大家都沒看到任何證據。只跟隨女主自己的話術來判斷。中國大衆的判斷能力就這樣了？可笑，可悲。","text":"鬧了半天了。大家都沒看到任何證據。只跟隨女主自己的話術來判斷。中國大衆的判斷能力就這樣了？可笑，可悲。","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/898107437","repostId":1112826993,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1112826993","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1628473240,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1112826993?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-08-09 09:40","market":"hk","language":"zh","title":"Ali's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112826993","media":"新浪科技","summary":"阿里味儿，变了吗？\n\n\n阿里文化，病了吗？\n\n\n或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？\n\n今天凌晨5点，阿里巴巴公布了“女员工被侵犯”事件处理决定：同城零售事业群总裁李永和和HRG徐昆引咎辞职，阿里巴巴首席人","content":"Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?At 5 o'clock this morning,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba</a>Announced the decision to deal with the incident of \"female employees being violated\": Li Yonghe, president of the same city retail business group, and Xu Kun of HRG resigned, Tong Wenhong, chief human resources officer of Alibaba, recorded a demerit, and the suspected male employee was dismissed and never hired. Whether there is any illegal act, the police are investigating and collecting evidence.\"Behind all these phenomena are major problems in the construction of HR cultural system and capabilities.\" Zhang Yong rarely spoke twice within 24 hours: \"We must reshape, we must change. Change must start with everyone, but first we must start with leaders and me. Please wait and see.\"The seemingly sincere attitude has not been recognized by the outside world. Ali is falling into a major crisis of values after the Jiang Fan incident. It is embarrassing that Ali's relevant HR and executives have dealt with this matter with cover-up, delay and indifference.Some people bluntly said that this time, Ali was faced with public anger, and it was collective public anger from inside and outside!This makes people wonder:Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?......Jack Ma once said that Alibaba has a vision: to live for 102 years, and to live well.Ali, who has just turned 25 now, is seriously ill, and he is not seriously ill!<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7d83f530dd8a1471ab9c41ef4d8e87e\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"2125\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">4 feedbacks, delayed for 11 days\"Ali male executive rapes female subordinate, and no one in the company cares...\"A video footage circulating on the Internet shows a woman shouting for her rights while handing out leaflets, surrounded by several security guards and bystanders whispering.At the same time, some Alibaba employees anonymously broke the whole story of the incident on social media: a leader of the company asked female employees to accompany the merchants, and carried out a series of illegal acts with the merchants when they were drunk and unconscious. The victimized employee posted on the intranet and reported to the company to no avail, and once distributed leaflets in the canteen for help.Soon the incident fermented and spread on the Internet, and broke out completely on the evening of August 7th, causing public concern and denunciation.Alibaba then responded, saying that both indecency and sexual assault are very serious crimes, and Alibaba will never tolerate them. At present, Jinan police have investigated the case, and Ali has suspended the suspected employee, and will fully cooperate with the police investigation and pay close attention to the progress and results of the police investigation.Zhang Yong, CEO of Ali, also posted on the intranet, expressing his feelings about the incident of an Ali employee suspected of assaulting a female colleague with shock, anger and shame. At the same time, he said that it is necessary to investigate clearly and give an account to all Ali students and the whole society.However, after a series of statements made by Ali, public opinion did not buy it:\"An accident happened on July 27th, and the parties called the police the next day. It was more than ten days after the incident, the official came out to respond positively. Is it possible to investigate and deal with it until you can't hide it?\"\"Four years ago, in the incident of programmers hanging up to grab mooncakes, Ali fired four employees involved one day later in order to maintain corporate culture. Why did you get indifference and delay this time?\"......According to the self-report of the female employee involved, the incident happened on the evening of July 27th, and she called the police on July 28th, but the company has been dealing with it in a peaceful and perfunctory manner: \"I have sought treatment from the company many times, but I have been perfunctory, deceived and played with applause again and again\". Even after the incident, the supervisor was detained by the police for 24 hours, and he still went to work and docked normally.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ec77476e732e26b56566af20e1131be\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"835\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">It was not until the matter broke out on social media, public opinion fermented, and under external pressure that the company began to deal with it head-on.According to Ali's latest financial report, the number of Ali employees has exceeded 250,000, which is a huge team. Some people say, \"There are all kinds of birds when the forest is big.\" In such a big company, it is normal to have a few bad elements.This sounds reasonable, but in this case, what makes netizens even more angry is the attitude from management to HR-the female employees involved have taken the initiative to give feedback and communicate with Ali HR and P10 leaders four times, but they have been shirked, ignored and failed to achieve justice.Jiang Fang, the chief talent officer of Ali, responded on the intranet that on July 28th, after the female colleague reported to the company, she did not suspend the personnel involved at the first time because there was no police conclusion, and attributed the slow action to the dogma and imperfect emergency mechanism.However, the outside world doesn't think it's just that the internal emergency response mechanism is not perfect. Netizens point their doubts to the deviation of Ali's values and corporate culture-\"When you see a cockroach in the sun, it means that the dark place can't be squeezed out.\"Vulgar \"voting certificate\"Alibaba's official website shows that the group has six values, \"customers first, employees second, shareholders third; because of trust, it is simple; at this moment, it must be me; live seriously, work happily...\" This is also proudly called the \"Six Pulse Excalibur\" by Ali, which plays an important role in how the group operates its business, recruits talents, assesses employees and determines employee remuneration.However, to this day, the successive negative sex incidents probably only make the outside world remember the company's less \"Internet\" and gradually biased atmosphere, such as wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, and executive extramarital affairs scandals.In fact, just a month ago, Ali's intranet \"exploded\" once. A male employee stepped on several boats, which was finally made public, causing dissatisfaction among female employees, and many women said they had encountered similar experiences.But this is only the tip of the iceberg. The root of frequent scandals comes from culture.Among them, \"ice-breaking culture\" has become synonymous with \"vulgarity\", \"stench\", \"harassment\" and \"sexual harassment\". Under the topic of Weibo Hot Search # Ali Icebreaking Culture #, netizens dug out the picture of \"Icebreaking Game\" a few years ago, and said that in Ali, fresh graduates will be asked many private and vulgar questions on the first day of employment. Ali later denied: The screenshot of \"Ali Ice-Breaking Culture\" was a rumor in 2018. At that time, Alibaba had refuted the rumor. The person involved in the picture was not an Alibaba employee, nor was it an internal training of Alibaba.However, many former Ali people also voiced their voices, confirming the existence of Ali's \"ice-breaking culture\" and saying that this trend was more serious in the past, especially in sales-related departments.In fact, as early as around 2018, a lot of complaints appeared on social media. Some internal employees said, \"Ali has a 'values' assessment, and part of performance is directly related to bonuses. The 'values' assessment standard is usually: whether you can integrate into or even organize such activities.\" Inability to stand the \"sexual harassment\" culture is also one of the reasons why he left Ali.One person<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">Zhihu</a>The answerer said that this kind of \"ice-breaking ceremony\" is not a few on the Internet in China. In fact, it is equivalent to voting for a certificate, asking you to do something that you can't normally do. From then on, you will be one of your own. The so-called: \"Together through the window, carry the gun together, share the stolen goods together, and XXX together.\" is the best relationship.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/595fa1b445163350f5014e8c035c2fca\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"499\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Today, such an \"ice-breaking culture\" may have disappeared on the bright side within the group, but for Ali, it is an indelible shame. And those bad ethos and values left behind are also reflected in many things that happened later, which little by little eroded the reputation and image of Ali, a giant Internet company.Huge waves press on the topIn the process of rapid development and expansion of a company, using culture to govern the enterprise can often get twice the result with half the effort. As an Internet company with a market value of more than 500 billion US dollars, in fact, Ali's organizational culture has experienced a long period of growth and tempering. Ali has also set a benchmark in this respect and has been imitated by many companies.Jack Ma once said in a public speech in 2018, \"The difference between Ali people and others is that we have Ali flavor.\"What is Ali Flavor? \"That is, we are a group of affectionate and righteous people to do something meaningful. We are idealistic, we are pragmatic, and we constantly change ourselves and embrace change. Among all the old Ali employees and those who leave, I think this is the most precious and rare quality.\"He mentioned that to measure the quality of a company, we should not only look at products and technology, but also look at the quality of its employees. His employees have ideals, a sense of mission and values, so his products and services must have ideals, a sense of mission and values.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/92f8ab55569d9dc05e665a81c4a5b97d\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"688\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">However, from wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, to Jiang Fan incident, and 996 and other news. In the eyes of the outside world, \"Ali Weier\" is changing its taste.It is undeniable that Alibaba has more than 200,000 employees. Just because individual business teams have problems, it does not mean that all Alibaba people are like this.Wang Shuai, a partner of Alibaba and chairman of the Marketing Public Relations Committee, said on his personal social platform, \"Please believe that we are still in a safe environment. Such incidents are accidental and definitely not the norm. Don't worry. In the past nine years in Ali, I have never been asked, and I have never heard of a female colleague going to accompany wine or do other things beyond the bottom line. This is not Ali's way of working, please rest assured.\"However, all kinds of negative events are obviously painful for Ali. What's more, the current Ali is also in a special period of development and is facing severe challenges and crises.Previously, affected by anti-monopoly, Ali received an administrative penalty decision from the State Administration for Market Regulation in accordance with the law, ordering it to stop illegal activities, and imposing a fine of 4% of its domestic sales in China in 2019 of 455.712 billion yuan, totaling 18.228 billion yuan. In the first financial report after the penalty, Ali ushered in its first quarterly loss since its listing.According to the financial report released by Ali not long ago, Ali's overall revenue was lower than market expectations, its quarterly net profit declined, and the anti-monopoly impact continued. Furthermore,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06688\">Ant Group</a>The listing was suspended. After a series of rectifications, the net profit in the first quarter of this year declined, and Ali's investment income from Ant Group also dropped sharply from the previous quarter.In addition, in this incident, Ali may also face related civil liabilities beyond the reputation crisis.Some lawyers said that if the client admits or has evidence such as surveillance video data, then the illegal act can generally be identified. In this case, Ali, as an enterprise, should also bear civil liability for compensation if it fails to take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal. According to Article 1010 of the Civil Code, if others are sexually harassed by words, words, images, physical behaviors, etc., the victim has the right to request the perpetrator to bear civil liability according to law. Organs, enterprises, schools and other units should take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal to prevent and stop sexual harassment by taking advantage of their authority and affiliation.Repeated public opinion crises have cast a thick layer of ash on Ali's corporate culture and values. However, the public's many negative comments on Ali have been overwhelmed by huge waves. Dripping into the sea, Ali has entered a dangerous moment.","source":"sina_tech","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Ali's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAli's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n新浪科技2021-08-09 09:40\n\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\nAli taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?At 5 o'clock this morning,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba</a>Announced the decision to deal with the incident of \"female employees being violated\": Li Yonghe, president of the same city retail business group, and Xu Kun of HRG resigned, Tong Wenhong, chief human resources officer of Alibaba, recorded a demerit, and the suspected male employee was dismissed and never hired. Whether there is any illegal act, the police are investigating and collecting evidence.\"Behind all these phenomena are major problems in the construction of HR cultural system and capabilities.\" Zhang Yong rarely spoke twice within 24 hours: \"We must reshape, we must change. Change must start with everyone, but first we must start with leaders and me. Please wait and see.\"The seemingly sincere attitude has not been recognized by the outside world. Ali is falling into a major crisis of values after the Jiang Fan incident. It is embarrassing that Ali's relevant HR and executives have dealt with this matter with cover-up, delay and indifference.Some people bluntly said that this time, Ali was faced with public anger, and it was collective public anger from inside and outside!This makes people wonder:Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?......Jack Ma once said that Alibaba has a vision: to live for 102 years, and to live well.Ali, who has just turned 25 now, is seriously ill, and he is not seriously ill!<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7d83f530dd8a1471ab9c41ef4d8e87e\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"2125\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">4 feedbacks, delayed for 11 days\"Ali male executive rapes female subordinate, and no one in the company cares...\"A video footage circulating on the Internet shows a woman shouting for her rights while handing out leaflets, surrounded by several security guards and bystanders whispering.At the same time, some Alibaba employees anonymously broke the whole story of the incident on social media: a leader of the company asked female employees to accompany the merchants, and carried out a series of illegal acts with the merchants when they were drunk and unconscious. The victimized employee posted on the intranet and reported to the company to no avail, and once distributed leaflets in the canteen for help.Soon the incident fermented and spread on the Internet, and broke out completely on the evening of August 7th, causing public concern and denunciation.Alibaba then responded, saying that both indecency and sexual assault are very serious crimes, and Alibaba will never tolerate them. At present, Jinan police have investigated the case, and Ali has suspended the suspected employee, and will fully cooperate with the police investigation and pay close attention to the progress and results of the police investigation.Zhang Yong, CEO of Ali, also posted on the intranet, expressing his feelings about the incident of an Ali employee suspected of assaulting a female colleague with shock, anger and shame. At the same time, he said that it is necessary to investigate clearly and give an account to all Ali students and the whole society.However, after a series of statements made by Ali, public opinion did not buy it:\"An accident happened on July 27th, and the parties called the police the next day. It was more than ten days after the incident, the official came out to respond positively. Is it possible to investigate and deal with it until you can't hide it?\"\"Four years ago, in the incident of programmers hanging up to grab mooncakes, Ali fired four employees involved one day later in order to maintain corporate culture. Why did you get indifference and delay this time?\"......According to the self-report of the female employee involved, the incident happened on the evening of July 27th, and she called the police on July 28th, but the company has been dealing with it in a peaceful and perfunctory manner: \"I have sought treatment from the company many times, but I have been perfunctory, deceived and played with applause again and again\". Even after the incident, the supervisor was detained by the police for 24 hours, and he still went to work and docked normally.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ec77476e732e26b56566af20e1131be\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"835\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">It was not until the matter broke out on social media, public opinion fermented, and under external pressure that the company began to deal with it head-on.According to Ali's latest financial report, the number of Ali employees has exceeded 250,000, which is a huge team. Some people say, \"There are all kinds of birds when the forest is big.\" In such a big company, it is normal to have a few bad elements.This sounds reasonable, but in this case, what makes netizens even more angry is the attitude from management to HR-the female employees involved have taken the initiative to give feedback and communicate with Ali HR and P10 leaders four times, but they have been shirked, ignored and failed to achieve justice.Jiang Fang, the chief talent officer of Ali, responded on the intranet that on July 28th, after the female colleague reported to the company, she did not suspend the personnel involved at the first time because there was no police conclusion, and attributed the slow action to the dogma and imperfect emergency mechanism.However, the outside world doesn't think it's just that the internal emergency response mechanism is not perfect. Netizens point their doubts to the deviation of Ali's values and corporate culture-\"When you see a cockroach in the sun, it means that the dark place can't be squeezed out.\"Vulgar \"voting certificate\"Alibaba's official website shows that the group has six values, \"customers first, employees second, shareholders third; because of trust, it is simple; at this moment, it must be me; live seriously, work happily...\" This is also proudly called the \"Six Pulse Excalibur\" by Ali, which plays an important role in how the group operates its business, recruits talents, assesses employees and determines employee remuneration.However, to this day, the successive negative sex incidents probably only make the outside world remember the company's less \"Internet\" and gradually biased atmosphere, such as wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, and executive extramarital affairs scandals.In fact, just a month ago, Ali's intranet \"exploded\" once. A male employee stepped on several boats, which was finally made public, causing dissatisfaction among female employees, and many women said they had encountered similar experiences.But this is only the tip of the iceberg. The root of frequent scandals comes from culture.Among them, \"ice-breaking culture\" has become synonymous with \"vulgarity\", \"stench\", \"harassment\" and \"sexual harassment\". Under the topic of Weibo Hot Search # Ali Icebreaking Culture #, netizens dug out the picture of \"Icebreaking Game\" a few years ago, and said that in Ali, fresh graduates will be asked many private and vulgar questions on the first day of employment. Ali later denied: The screenshot of \"Ali Ice-Breaking Culture\" was a rumor in 2018. At that time, Alibaba had refuted the rumor. The person involved in the picture was not an Alibaba employee, nor was it an internal training of Alibaba.However, many former Ali people also voiced their voices, confirming the existence of Ali's \"ice-breaking culture\" and saying that this trend was more serious in the past, especially in sales-related departments.In fact, as early as around 2018, a lot of complaints appeared on social media. Some internal employees said, \"Ali has a 'values' assessment, and part of performance is directly related to bonuses. The 'values' assessment standard is usually: whether you can integrate into or even organize such activities.\" Inability to stand the \"sexual harassment\" culture is also one of the reasons why he left Ali.One person<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">Zhihu</a>The answerer said that this kind of \"ice-breaking ceremony\" is not a few on the Internet in China. In fact, it is equivalent to voting for a certificate, asking you to do something that you can't normally do. From then on, you will be one of your own. The so-called: \"Together through the window, carry the gun together, share the stolen goods together, and XXX together.\" is the best relationship.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/595fa1b445163350f5014e8c035c2fca\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"499\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Today, such an \"ice-breaking culture\" may have disappeared on the bright side within the group, but for Ali, it is an indelible shame. And those bad ethos and values left behind are also reflected in many things that happened later, which little by little eroded the reputation and image of Ali, a giant Internet company.Huge waves press on the topIn the process of rapid development and expansion of a company, using culture to govern the enterprise can often get twice the result with half the effort. As an Internet company with a market value of more than 500 billion US dollars, in fact, Ali's organizational culture has experienced a long period of growth and tempering. Ali has also set a benchmark in this respect and has been imitated by many companies.Jack Ma once said in a public speech in 2018, \"The difference between Ali people and others is that we have Ali flavor.\"What is Ali Flavor? \"That is, we are a group of affectionate and righteous people to do something meaningful. We are idealistic, we are pragmatic, and we constantly change ourselves and embrace change. Among all the old Ali employees and those who leave, I think this is the most precious and rare quality.\"He mentioned that to measure the quality of a company, we should not only look at products and technology, but also look at the quality of its employees. His employees have ideals, a sense of mission and values, so his products and services must have ideals, a sense of mission and values.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/92f8ab55569d9dc05e665a81c4a5b97d\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"688\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">However, from wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, to Jiang Fan incident, and 996 and other news. In the eyes of the outside world, \"Ali Weier\" is changing its taste.It is undeniable that Alibaba has more than 200,000 employees. Just because individual business teams have problems, it does not mean that all Alibaba people are like this.Wang Shuai, a partner of Alibaba and chairman of the Marketing Public Relations Committee, said on his personal social platform, \"Please believe that we are still in a safe environment. Such incidents are accidental and definitely not the norm. Don't worry. In the past nine years in Ali, I have never been asked, and I have never heard of a female colleague going to accompany wine or do other things beyond the bottom line. This is not Ali's way of working, please rest assured.\"However, all kinds of negative events are obviously painful for Ali. What's more, the current Ali is also in a special period of development and is facing severe challenges and crises.Previously, affected by anti-monopoly, Ali received an administrative penalty decision from the State Administration for Market Regulation in accordance with the law, ordering it to stop illegal activities, and imposing a fine of 4% of its domestic sales in China in 2019 of 455.712 billion yuan, totaling 18.228 billion yuan. In the first financial report after the penalty, Ali ushered in its first quarterly loss since its listing.According to the financial report released by Ali not long ago, Ali's overall revenue was lower than market expectations, its quarterly net profit declined, and the anti-monopoly impact continued. Furthermore,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06688\">Ant Group</a>The listing was suspended. After a series of rectifications, the net profit in the first quarter of this year declined, and Ali's investment income from Ant Group also dropped sharply from the previous quarter.In addition, in this incident, Ali may also face related civil liabilities beyond the reputation crisis.Some lawyers said that if the client admits or has evidence such as surveillance video data, then the illegal act can generally be identified. In this case, Ali, as an enterprise, should also bear civil liability for compensation if it fails to take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal. According to Article 1010 of the Civil Code, if others are sexually harassed by words, words, images, physical behaviors, etc., the victim has the right to request the perpetrator to bear civil liability according to law. Organs, enterprises, schools and other units should take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal to prevent and stop sexual harassment by taking advantage of their authority and affiliation.Repeated public opinion crises have cast a thick layer of ash on Ali's corporate culture and values. However, the public's many negative comments on Ali have been overwhelmed by huge waves. Dripping into the sea, Ali has entered a dangerous moment.\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n source：<a href=\"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bdf-exXlYUyxyKi1VJsStg\">新浪科技</a>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6d3c3d7d963f41e04ac00b609a15d980","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bdf-exXlYUyxyKi1VJsStg","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112826993","content_text":"阿里味儿，变了吗？\n\n\n阿里文化，病了吗？\n\n\n或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？\n\n今天凌晨5点，阿里巴巴公布了“女员工被侵犯”事件处理决定：同城零售事业群总裁李永和和HRG徐昆引咎辞职，阿里巴巴首席人力资源官童文红记过处分，涉嫌男员工被辞退，永不录用，其是否存在违法行为，警方正在调查取证。\n“这种种现象的背后是HR文化体系和能力的建设出现了重大问题”，张勇罕见地在24小时内二次发声：“我们必须重塑，我们必须改变。改变必须从每个人做起，但是首先必须从领导者做起，从我做起。请大家拭目以待。”\n看似诚恳的态度，尚未得到外界认可。阿里正在陷入继蒋凡事件之后的重大价值观危机，阿里相关HR和高管对此事包庇、拖延、冷漠的处理方式，令人唏嘘。\n有人直言，这一次，阿里面对的是众怒，而且是来自内外部的集体众怒！\n这让人不禁怀疑：\n阿里味儿，变了吗？\n阿里文化，病了吗？\n或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？\n......\n马云曾说，阿里巴巴有一个愿景：要活102年，而且是要活得好。\n如今刚满25岁的阿里，得了场重病，还病得不轻！\n\n4次反馈，被拖延11天\n“阿里男高管强奸女下属，公司无人问管......”\n一段网上流传的视频画面显示，一名女性一边发传单一边呐喊维权，周围站着几位安保人员和小声议论的旁观者。\n同时，有阿里巴巴员工在社交媒体上匿名爆料了事件原委：公司某领导要求女性员工陪商户，并与商户在其因醉酒不清醒的情况下实施了一系列违法行为。受害员工在内网发帖并向公司反映无果，曾在食堂发传单寻求帮助。\n很快事件在网络上发酵、传播，于8月7日晚间彻底爆发，引发舆论关注和声讨。\n阿里巴巴随后做出回应，称无论是猥亵还是性侵，都是非常严重的犯罪行为，阿里巴巴决不容忍。目前，济南警方已对该案进行调查，阿里已对涉嫌员工停职，并将全力配合警方调查，密切关注警方调查进展和结果。\n阿里CEO张勇也在内网发文，用震惊、气愤、羞愧，表达对阿里一员工涉嫌侵害女同事事件的感受。他同时表示，必须调查清楚，给全体阿里同学和全社会一个交代。\n然而，阿里方的一系列表态后，舆论并不买账：\n“7月27日出事，次日当事人报警，2事情发生十多天后官方才出来正面回应，是瞒不住了才调查处理吗？”\n“4年前程序员挂机抢月饼事件中，阿里为维护企业文化一天后就将四名涉事员工开除。这一次为何得到的却是冷漠、拖延处理？”\n......\n根据当事女员工的自述内容，事情发生在7月27日晚间，自己于7月28日报警，但公司却一直以息事宁人、敷衍包庇的态度处理：“多次向公司寻求处理，却一而再再而三的被敷衍被欺骗被玩弄于鼓掌”。甚至当事主管在事发后，接受完警察拘留 24 小时的审讯，依然正常上班、对接工作。\n\n直至事情在社交媒体爆发，舆论发酵，外界压力之下，公司才开始正面处理。\n根据阿里最新财报显示，阿里员工数已超过25万，这是一个庞大的团队。有人说，“林子大了什么鸟都有”，这么大的公司，有几个坏分子正常。\n这话听起来有点道理，但在这件事情中，让网友更气愤的是从管理层到HR的态度——当事女员工曾4次主动向阿里HR和P10级别领导反馈、沟通，但被推诿、置之不理，未能伸张正义。\n阿里首席人才官蒋芳在内网回应称，7月28日，女同事上报公司之后，因为没有警方的定论，没有在第一时间对涉事人员进行停职处理，并将行动缓慢的原因归结于教条、应急机制不够健全。\n但外界并不认为只是内部应急机制不健全这么简单，网友将质疑的矛头指向阿里价值观、企业文化出现偏差——“当你在阳光下看见了一只蟑螂，说明阴暗处已经挤不下了。”\n低俗“投名状”\n阿里巴巴的官网显示，集团有六个价值观，“客户第一，员工第二，股东第三；因为信任，所以简单；此时此刻，非我莫属；认真生活， 快乐工作......”这也被阿里自豪地称为“六脉神剑”，对于集团如何经营业务、招揽人才、考核员工以及决定员工报酬扮演着重要的角色。\n然而，时至今日，接连发生的负面桃色事件，大概也只让外界记住了这家公司不太“互联网”和逐渐走偏的风气，比如酒桌文化、破冰文化、高管婚外情丑闻。\n实际上就在一个月前，阿里内网曾经“爆”过一次，一个男员工脚踏几条船，最终被人公之于众，引发女性员工不满，并有多名女性称遇到过类似遭遇。\n但这只是冰山一角，丑闻频现的根源来自于文化。\n其中，“破冰文化”已然成为了“低俗”、“恶臭”、“骚扰”、“性骚扰”的代名词。在微博热搜#阿里 破冰文化#话题下，网友翻出几年前的“破冰游戏”图片，并表示在阿里，应届毕业的女生入职第一天，会被问很多隐私、低俗的问题。阿里方面随后发声否认：“阿里破冰文化”的截图系2018年的谣言，当时阿里巴巴已经辟谣，图中所涉人士并非阿里巴巴员工，也非阿里巴巴内部培训。\n不过，也有不少前阿里人发声，证实了阿里“破冰文化”的存在，并称这种风气在以前更加严重，尤其在销售相关的部门。\n实际上，早在2018年左右，就有不少吐槽的声音出现在社交媒体上。有内部员工表示，“阿里有‘价值观’考核，绩效的一部分，直接与奖金相关。‘价值观’考核标准通常是：是否能融入、甚至是否能组织这类活动。”无法忍受“性骚扰”文化，也是其从阿里离职的原因之一。\n一位知乎答主表示，这种“破冰仪式”在国内互联网还不在少数，其实这就相当于投名状，让你干一件平常干不了的事，从此以后，就算自己人了。所谓：“一起同过窗，一起扛过枪，一起分过赃，一起XXX。”才是关系最好。\n\n如今，这样的“破冰文化”在集团内部的明面上可能已经消失了，但对阿里来说，却是无法抹去的耻辱。而那些遗留下的不良风气和价值观，也反映在后面发生的很多事情上，一点点腐蚀着阿里这座互联网大厂的名声和形象。\n巨浪压顶\n一家公司在快速发展和扩张的过程中，利用文化治企常常能起到事半功倍的作用。作为一家五千多亿美元市值的互联网企业，实际上，阿里组织文化经历了漫长的成长和磨练。而阿里也曾在这方面树立了标杆，被很多企业效仿。\n马云曾在2018年的一次公开讲话中表示，“阿里人和其他人的区别，就是我们有阿里味”。\n什么是阿里味？“就是我们是一帮有情有义的人，去做一些有意义的事情。我们有理想主义色彩，我们务实，我们不断地改变自己，拥抱变化。在所有的阿里老员工，离开的人身上，我觉得这是最珍贵、最难得的品质。”\n他提到，衡量一个公司的好坏，不仅仅是看产品和技术，最重要的是看他员工素质的好坏。他的员工有理想，有使命感，有价值观，那他的产品和服务一定有理想，有使命感，有价值观。\n\n然而从酒桌文化、破冰文化，再到蒋凡事件，以及996等新闻。“阿里味儿”在外界看来，正在变味。\n不可否认，阿里巴巴有20多万的员工，个别业务团队出现了问题，并不代表所有阿里人都是这样。\n阿里巴巴合伙人、市场公关委员会主席王帅在其个人社交平台称，“请相信我们依然是处于安全的环境这类事件是偶发，绝对不是常态，别担心。在阿里这9年，我从没被要求过，也没听说过有女同事要去陪酒或做其他超越底线的事情。这不是阿里的工作方式，请放心。”\n不过，种种负面事件，对于阿里的教训显然是惨痛的。更何况当下的阿里，亦处在发展的特殊时期，正面临严峻的挑战和危机。\n此前，受反垄断影响，阿里收到了市场监管总局依法作出行政处罚决定，责令其停止违法行为，并处以其2019年中国境内销售额4557.12亿元4%的罚款，计182.28亿元。在处罚发生后的第一份财报中，阿里迎来上市以来首次季度亏损。\n而根据阿里前不久发布的财报，阿里整体营收低于市场预期、季度净利润下降，反垄断影响仍在持续。此外，蚂蚁集团上市暂缓，一系列整改后，今年一季度净利润的下滑，阿里从蚂蚁集团获得的投资收益环比也大幅下降。\n此外，此次事件中，阿里也可能将面临在名誉危机之外的相关民事责任。\n有律师表示，如果当事人承认或者有监控影像资料等证据，那么违法行为一般就可以认定了。在这种情况下，阿里作为企业，如果未尽到合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，也应当承担民事赔偿责任。根据《民法典》第一千零一十条规定：以言语、文字、图像、肢体行为等方式对他人实施性骚扰的，受害人有权依法请求行为人承担民事责任，机关、企业、学校等单位应当采取合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，防止和制止利用职权、从属关系等实施性骚扰。\n一再的舆论危机，让阿里的企业文化和价值观蒙上了一层厚厚的灰。但公众对阿里诸多的负面评价已巨浪压顶。滴水成海，阿里已进入危险时刻。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BABA":0.9,"09988":0.9}},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":5468522,"gmtCreate":1628480754050,"gmtModify":1663232114038,"authorId":3517581422331973,"author":{"id":3517581422331973,"idStr":"3517581422331973","authorId":3517581422331973,"name":"喵喵静","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":3465431827100262,"repliedAuthor":{"id":3465431827100262,"idStr":"3465431827100262","authorId":3465431827100262,"name":"25d459fd","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"objectId":898107437,"type":1,"supId":5468185,"prevId":5468427,"content":"你根本没看阿里的通告，懒得跟你争辩！单出差这段你就错了！加上被踢出群，还有事件的发酵，都是内部看不过的员工做的，这事情在微博早有了，8000字文章在派传单前就有了！而且本来就是qj！迫使女当事人极端维权，是警察把人放了！本来qj就难取证！但监控和房卡问题有本质证据！对于正常受害者有罪论的人，祝你家人遇到同样事情！","text":"你根本没看阿里的通告，懒得跟你争辩！单出差这段你就错了！加上被踢出群，还有事件的发酵，都是内部看不过的员工做的，这事情在微博早有了，8000字文章在派传单前就有了！而且本来就是qj！迫使女当事人极端维权，是警察把人放了！本来qj就难取证！但监控和房卡问题有本质证据！对于正常受害者有罪论的人，祝你家人遇到同样事情！","html":"你根本没看阿里的通告，懒得跟你争辩！单出差这段你就错了！加上被踢出群，还有事件的发酵，都是内部看不过的员工做的，这事情在微博早有了，8000字文章在派传单前就有了！而且本来就是qj！迫使女当事人极端维权，是警察把人放了！本来qj就难取证！但监控和房卡问题有本质证据！对于正常受害者有罪论的人，祝你家人遇到同样事情！"},{"id":5468427,"gmtCreate":1628480223438,"gmtModify":1663232110527,"authorId":3465431827100262,"author":{"id":3465431827100262,"idStr":"3465431827100262","authorId":3465431827100262,"name":"25d459fd","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":898107437,"type":1,"supId":5468185,"prevId":0,"content":"当初的舆论可是以QJ的名义。那个出差本身是已经提前都安排了，并不是突发的。高管反应太慢所以被开除了。7.28号发生，女当事人8.2号向公司汇报此时。8.6号男当事人被停职等待警方调查。停职时间慢是高管的问题。","text":"当初的舆论可是以QJ的名义。那个出差本身是已经提前都安排了，并不是突发的。高管反应太慢所以被开除了。7.28号发生，女当事人8.2号向公司汇报此时。8.6号男当事人被停职等待警方调查。停职时间慢是高管的问题。","html":"当初的舆论可是以QJ的名义。那个出差本身是已经提前都安排了，并不是突发的。高管反应太慢所以被开除了。7.28号发生，女当事人8.2号向公司汇报此时。8.6号男当事人被停职等待警方调查。停职时间慢是高管的问题。"},{"id":5468185,"gmtCreate":1628478970297,"gmtModify":1663232110231,"authorId":3517581422331973,"author":{"id":3517581422331973,"idStr":"3517581422331973","authorId":3517581422331973,"name":"喵喵静","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":898107437,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"阿里都自锤了！ [无语] [无语]就在开头那段，难道你不会看？但凭嫌疑犯承认的过度接触行为，加上聊天记录上的强迫出差，就已经够啦！你以为阿里没证据随便开除高管，处罚顶层？","text":"阿里都自锤了！ [无语] [无语]就在开头那段，难道你不会看？但凭嫌疑犯承认的过度接触行为，加上聊天记录上的强迫出差，就已经够啦！你以为阿里没证据随便开除高管，处罚顶层？","html":"阿里都自锤了！ [无语] [无语]就在开头那段，难道你不会看？但凭嫌疑犯承认的过度接触行为，加上聊天记录上的强迫出差，就已经够啦！你以为阿里没证据随便开除高管，处罚顶层？"}],"langContent":"CN"},{"id":898359347,"gmtCreate":1628474761189,"gmtModify":1703506617018,"author":{"id":"3571016679890290","authorId":"3571016679890290","name":"MajorJackpot","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8e3167dc36bc3dc440bfc86312381fbb","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3571016679890290","idStr":"3571016679890290"},"htmlText":"Ali Flavor gone bad!","listText":"Ali Flavor gone bad!","text":"Ali Flavor gone bad!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/898359347","repostId":1112826993,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1112826993","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1628473240,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1112826993?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-08-09 09:40","market":"hk","language":"zh","title":"Ali's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112826993","media":"新浪科技","summary":"阿里味儿，变了吗？\n\n\n阿里文化，病了吗？\n\n\n或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？\n\n今天凌晨5点，阿里巴巴公布了“女员工被侵犯”事件处理决定：同城零售事业群总裁李永和和HRG徐昆引咎辞职，阿里巴巴首席人","content":"Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?At 5 o'clock this morning,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba</a>Announced the decision to deal with the incident of \"female employees being violated\": Li Yonghe, president of the same city retail business group, and Xu Kun of HRG resigned, Tong Wenhong, chief human resources officer of Alibaba, recorded a demerit, and the suspected male employee was dismissed and never hired. Whether there is any illegal act, the police are investigating and collecting evidence.\"Behind all these phenomena are major problems in the construction of HR cultural system and capabilities.\" Zhang Yong rarely spoke twice within 24 hours: \"We must reshape, we must change. Change must start with everyone, but first we must start with leaders and me. Please wait and see.\"The seemingly sincere attitude has not been recognized by the outside world. Ali is falling into a major crisis of values after the Jiang Fan incident. It is embarrassing that Ali's relevant HR and executives have dealt with this matter with cover-up, delay and indifference.Some people bluntly said that this time, Ali was faced with public anger, and it was collective public anger from inside and outside!This makes people wonder:Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?......Jack Ma once said that Alibaba has a vision: to live for 102 years, and to live well.Ali, who has just turned 25 now, is seriously ill, and he is not seriously ill!<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7d83f530dd8a1471ab9c41ef4d8e87e\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"2125\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">4 feedbacks, delayed for 11 days\"Ali male executive rapes female subordinate, and no one in the company cares...\"A video footage circulating on the Internet shows a woman shouting for her rights while handing out leaflets, surrounded by several security guards and bystanders whispering.At the same time, some Alibaba employees anonymously broke the whole story of the incident on social media: a leader of the company asked female employees to accompany the merchants, and carried out a series of illegal acts with the merchants when they were drunk and unconscious. The victimized employee posted on the intranet and reported to the company to no avail, and once distributed leaflets in the canteen for help.Soon the incident fermented and spread on the Internet, and broke out completely on the evening of August 7th, causing public concern and denunciation.Alibaba then responded, saying that both indecency and sexual assault are very serious crimes, and Alibaba will never tolerate them. At present, Jinan police have investigated the case, and Ali has suspended the suspected employee, and will fully cooperate with the police investigation and pay close attention to the progress and results of the police investigation.Zhang Yong, CEO of Ali, also posted on the intranet, expressing his feelings about the incident of an Ali employee suspected of assaulting a female colleague with shock, anger and shame. At the same time, he said that it is necessary to investigate clearly and give an account to all Ali students and the whole society.However, after a series of statements made by Ali, public opinion did not buy it:\"An accident happened on July 27th, and the parties called the police the next day. It was more than ten days after the incident, the official came out to respond positively. Is it possible to investigate and deal with it until you can't hide it?\"\"Four years ago, in the incident of programmers hanging up to grab mooncakes, Ali fired four employees involved one day later in order to maintain corporate culture. Why did you get indifference and delay this time?\"......According to the self-report of the female employee involved, the incident happened on the evening of July 27th, and she called the police on July 28th, but the company has been dealing with it in a peaceful and perfunctory manner: \"I have sought treatment from the company many times, but I have been perfunctory, deceived and played with applause again and again\". Even after the incident, the supervisor was detained by the police for 24 hours, and he still went to work and docked normally.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ec77476e732e26b56566af20e1131be\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"835\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">It was not until the matter broke out on social media, public opinion fermented, and under external pressure that the company began to deal with it head-on.According to Ali's latest financial report, the number of Ali employees has exceeded 250,000, which is a huge team. Some people say, \"There are all kinds of birds when the forest is big.\" In such a big company, it is normal to have a few bad elements.This sounds reasonable, but in this case, what makes netizens even more angry is the attitude from management to HR-the female employees involved have taken the initiative to give feedback and communicate with Ali HR and P10 leaders four times, but they have been shirked, ignored and failed to achieve justice.Jiang Fang, the chief talent officer of Ali, responded on the intranet that on July 28th, after the female colleague reported to the company, she did not suspend the personnel involved at the first time because there was no police conclusion, and attributed the slow action to the dogma and imperfect emergency mechanism.However, the outside world doesn't think it's just that the internal emergency response mechanism is not perfect. Netizens point their doubts to the deviation of Ali's values and corporate culture-\"When you see a cockroach in the sun, it means that the dark place can't be squeezed out.\"Vulgar \"voting certificate\"Alibaba's official website shows that the group has six values, \"customers first, employees second, shareholders third; because of trust, it is simple; at this moment, it must be me; live seriously, work happily...\" This is also proudly called the \"Six Pulse Excalibur\" by Ali, which plays an important role in how the group operates its business, recruits talents, assesses employees and determines employee remuneration.However, to this day, the successive negative sex incidents probably only make the outside world remember the company's less \"Internet\" and gradually biased atmosphere, such as wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, and executive extramarital affairs scandals.In fact, just a month ago, Ali's intranet \"exploded\" once. A male employee stepped on several boats, which was finally made public, causing dissatisfaction among female employees, and many women said they had encountered similar experiences.But this is only the tip of the iceberg. The root of frequent scandals comes from culture.Among them, \"ice-breaking culture\" has become synonymous with \"vulgarity\", \"stench\", \"harassment\" and \"sexual harassment\". Under the topic of Weibo Hot Search # Ali Icebreaking Culture #, netizens dug out the picture of \"Icebreaking Game\" a few years ago, and said that in Ali, fresh graduates will be asked many private and vulgar questions on the first day of employment. Ali later denied: The screenshot of \"Ali Ice-Breaking Culture\" was a rumor in 2018. At that time, Alibaba had refuted the rumor. The person involved in the picture was not an Alibaba employee, nor was it an internal training of Alibaba.However, many former Ali people also voiced their voices, confirming the existence of Ali's \"ice-breaking culture\" and saying that this trend was more serious in the past, especially in sales-related departments.In fact, as early as around 2018, a lot of complaints appeared on social media. Some internal employees said, \"Ali has a 'values' assessment, and part of performance is directly related to bonuses. The 'values' assessment standard is usually: whether you can integrate into or even organize such activities.\" Inability to stand the \"sexual harassment\" culture is also one of the reasons why he left Ali.One person<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">Zhihu</a>The answerer said that this kind of \"ice-breaking ceremony\" is not a few on the Internet in China. In fact, it is equivalent to voting for a certificate, asking you to do something that you can't normally do. From then on, you will be one of your own. The so-called: \"Together through the window, carry the gun together, share the stolen goods together, and XXX together.\" is the best relationship.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/595fa1b445163350f5014e8c035c2fca\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"499\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Today, such an \"ice-breaking culture\" may have disappeared on the bright side within the group, but for Ali, it is an indelible shame. And those bad ethos and values left behind are also reflected in many things that happened later, which little by little eroded the reputation and image of Ali, a giant Internet company.Huge waves press on the topIn the process of rapid development and expansion of a company, using culture to govern the enterprise can often get twice the result with half the effort. As an Internet company with a market value of more than 500 billion US dollars, in fact, Ali's organizational culture has experienced a long period of growth and tempering. Ali has also set a benchmark in this respect and has been imitated by many companies.Jack Ma once said in a public speech in 2018, \"The difference between Ali people and others is that we have Ali flavor.\"What is Ali Flavor? \"That is, we are a group of affectionate and righteous people to do something meaningful. We are idealistic, we are pragmatic, and we constantly change ourselves and embrace change. Among all the old Ali employees and those who leave, I think this is the most precious and rare quality.\"He mentioned that to measure the quality of a company, we should not only look at products and technology, but also look at the quality of its employees. His employees have ideals, a sense of mission and values, so his products and services must have ideals, a sense of mission and values.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/92f8ab55569d9dc05e665a81c4a5b97d\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"688\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">However, from wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, to Jiang Fan incident, and 996 and other news. In the eyes of the outside world, \"Ali Weier\" is changing its taste.It is undeniable that Alibaba has more than 200,000 employees. Just because individual business teams have problems, it does not mean that all Alibaba people are like this.Wang Shuai, a partner of Alibaba and chairman of the Marketing Public Relations Committee, said on his personal social platform, \"Please believe that we are still in a safe environment. Such incidents are accidental and definitely not the norm. Don't worry. In the past nine years in Ali, I have never been asked, and I have never heard of a female colleague going to accompany wine or do other things beyond the bottom line. This is not Ali's way of working, please rest assured.\"However, all kinds of negative events are obviously painful for Ali. What's more, the current Ali is also in a special period of development and is facing severe challenges and crises.Previously, affected by anti-monopoly, Ali received an administrative penalty decision from the State Administration for Market Regulation in accordance with the law, ordering it to stop illegal activities, and imposing a fine of 4% of its domestic sales in China in 2019 of 455.712 billion yuan, totaling 18.228 billion yuan. In the first financial report after the penalty, Ali ushered in its first quarterly loss since its listing.According to the financial report released by Ali not long ago, Ali's overall revenue was lower than market expectations, its quarterly net profit declined, and the anti-monopoly impact continued. Furthermore,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06688\">Ant Group</a>The listing was suspended. After a series of rectifications, the net profit in the first quarter of this year declined, and Ali's investment income from Ant Group also dropped sharply from the previous quarter.In addition, in this incident, Ali may also face related civil liabilities beyond the reputation crisis.Some lawyers said that if the client admits or has evidence such as surveillance video data, then the illegal act can generally be identified. In this case, Ali, as an enterprise, should also bear civil liability for compensation if it fails to take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal. According to Article 1010 of the Civil Code, if others are sexually harassed by words, words, images, physical behaviors, etc., the victim has the right to request the perpetrator to bear civil liability according to law. Organs, enterprises, schools and other units should take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal to prevent and stop sexual harassment by taking advantage of their authority and affiliation.Repeated public opinion crises have cast a thick layer of ash on Ali's corporate culture and values. However, the public's many negative comments on Ali have been overwhelmed by huge waves. Dripping into the sea, Ali has entered a dangerous moment.","source":"sina_tech","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Ali's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAli's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n新浪科技2021-08-09 09:40\n\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\nAli taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?At 5 o'clock this morning,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba</a>Announced the decision to deal with the incident of \"female employees being violated\": Li Yonghe, president of the same city retail business group, and Xu Kun of HRG resigned, Tong Wenhong, chief human resources officer of Alibaba, recorded a demerit, and the suspected male employee was dismissed and never hired. Whether there is any illegal act, the police are investigating and collecting evidence.\"Behind all these phenomena are major problems in the construction of HR cultural system and capabilities.\" Zhang Yong rarely spoke twice within 24 hours: \"We must reshape, we must change. Change must start with everyone, but first we must start with leaders and me. Please wait and see.\"The seemingly sincere attitude has not been recognized by the outside world. Ali is falling into a major crisis of values after the Jiang Fan incident. It is embarrassing that Ali's relevant HR and executives have dealt with this matter with cover-up, delay and indifference.Some people bluntly said that this time, Ali was faced with public anger, and it was collective public anger from inside and outside!This makes people wonder:Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?......Jack Ma once said that Alibaba has a vision: to live for 102 years, and to live well.Ali, who has just turned 25 now, is seriously ill, and he is not seriously ill!<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7d83f530dd8a1471ab9c41ef4d8e87e\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"2125\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">4 feedbacks, delayed for 11 days\"Ali male executive rapes female subordinate, and no one in the company cares...\"A video footage circulating on the Internet shows a woman shouting for her rights while handing out leaflets, surrounded by several security guards and bystanders whispering.At the same time, some Alibaba employees anonymously broke the whole story of the incident on social media: a leader of the company asked female employees to accompany the merchants, and carried out a series of illegal acts with the merchants when they were drunk and unconscious. The victimized employee posted on the intranet and reported to the company to no avail, and once distributed leaflets in the canteen for help.Soon the incident fermented and spread on the Internet, and broke out completely on the evening of August 7th, causing public concern and denunciation.Alibaba then responded, saying that both indecency and sexual assault are very serious crimes, and Alibaba will never tolerate them. At present, Jinan police have investigated the case, and Ali has suspended the suspected employee, and will fully cooperate with the police investigation and pay close attention to the progress and results of the police investigation.Zhang Yong, CEO of Ali, also posted on the intranet, expressing his feelings about the incident of an Ali employee suspected of assaulting a female colleague with shock, anger and shame. At the same time, he said that it is necessary to investigate clearly and give an account to all Ali students and the whole society.However, after a series of statements made by Ali, public opinion did not buy it:\"An accident happened on July 27th, and the parties called the police the next day. It was more than ten days after the incident, the official came out to respond positively. Is it possible to investigate and deal with it until you can't hide it?\"\"Four years ago, in the incident of programmers hanging up to grab mooncakes, Ali fired four employees involved one day later in order to maintain corporate culture. Why did you get indifference and delay this time?\"......According to the self-report of the female employee involved, the incident happened on the evening of July 27th, and she called the police on July 28th, but the company has been dealing with it in a peaceful and perfunctory manner: \"I have sought treatment from the company many times, but I have been perfunctory, deceived and played with applause again and again\". Even after the incident, the supervisor was detained by the police for 24 hours, and he still went to work and docked normally.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ec77476e732e26b56566af20e1131be\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"835\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">It was not until the matter broke out on social media, public opinion fermented, and under external pressure that the company began to deal with it head-on.According to Ali's latest financial report, the number of Ali employees has exceeded 250,000, which is a huge team. Some people say, \"There are all kinds of birds when the forest is big.\" In such a big company, it is normal to have a few bad elements.This sounds reasonable, but in this case, what makes netizens even more angry is the attitude from management to HR-the female employees involved have taken the initiative to give feedback and communicate with Ali HR and P10 leaders four times, but they have been shirked, ignored and failed to achieve justice.Jiang Fang, the chief talent officer of Ali, responded on the intranet that on July 28th, after the female colleague reported to the company, she did not suspend the personnel involved at the first time because there was no police conclusion, and attributed the slow action to the dogma and imperfect emergency mechanism.However, the outside world doesn't think it's just that the internal emergency response mechanism is not perfect. Netizens point their doubts to the deviation of Ali's values and corporate culture-\"When you see a cockroach in the sun, it means that the dark place can't be squeezed out.\"Vulgar \"voting certificate\"Alibaba's official website shows that the group has six values, \"customers first, employees second, shareholders third; because of trust, it is simple; at this moment, it must be me; live seriously, work happily...\" This is also proudly called the \"Six Pulse Excalibur\" by Ali, which plays an important role in how the group operates its business, recruits talents, assesses employees and determines employee remuneration.However, to this day, the successive negative sex incidents probably only make the outside world remember the company's less \"Internet\" and gradually biased atmosphere, such as wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, and executive extramarital affairs scandals.In fact, just a month ago, Ali's intranet \"exploded\" once. A male employee stepped on several boats, which was finally made public, causing dissatisfaction among female employees, and many women said they had encountered similar experiences.But this is only the tip of the iceberg. The root of frequent scandals comes from culture.Among them, \"ice-breaking culture\" has become synonymous with \"vulgarity\", \"stench\", \"harassment\" and \"sexual harassment\". Under the topic of Weibo Hot Search # Ali Icebreaking Culture #, netizens dug out the picture of \"Icebreaking Game\" a few years ago, and said that in Ali, fresh graduates will be asked many private and vulgar questions on the first day of employment. Ali later denied: The screenshot of \"Ali Ice-Breaking Culture\" was a rumor in 2018. At that time, Alibaba had refuted the rumor. The person involved in the picture was not an Alibaba employee, nor was it an internal training of Alibaba.However, many former Ali people also voiced their voices, confirming the existence of Ali's \"ice-breaking culture\" and saying that this trend was more serious in the past, especially in sales-related departments.In fact, as early as around 2018, a lot of complaints appeared on social media. Some internal employees said, \"Ali has a 'values' assessment, and part of performance is directly related to bonuses. The 'values' assessment standard is usually: whether you can integrate into or even organize such activities.\" Inability to stand the \"sexual harassment\" culture is also one of the reasons why he left Ali.One person<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">Zhihu</a>The answerer said that this kind of \"ice-breaking ceremony\" is not a few on the Internet in China. In fact, it is equivalent to voting for a certificate, asking you to do something that you can't normally do. From then on, you will be one of your own. The so-called: \"Together through the window, carry the gun together, share the stolen goods together, and XXX together.\" is the best relationship.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/595fa1b445163350f5014e8c035c2fca\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"499\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Today, such an \"ice-breaking culture\" may have disappeared on the bright side within the group, but for Ali, it is an indelible shame. And those bad ethos and values left behind are also reflected in many things that happened later, which little by little eroded the reputation and image of Ali, a giant Internet company.Huge waves press on the topIn the process of rapid development and expansion of a company, using culture to govern the enterprise can often get twice the result with half the effort. As an Internet company with a market value of more than 500 billion US dollars, in fact, Ali's organizational culture has experienced a long period of growth and tempering. Ali has also set a benchmark in this respect and has been imitated by many companies.Jack Ma once said in a public speech in 2018, \"The difference between Ali people and others is that we have Ali flavor.\"What is Ali Flavor? \"That is, we are a group of affectionate and righteous people to do something meaningful. We are idealistic, we are pragmatic, and we constantly change ourselves and embrace change. Among all the old Ali employees and those who leave, I think this is the most precious and rare quality.\"He mentioned that to measure the quality of a company, we should not only look at products and technology, but also look at the quality of its employees. His employees have ideals, a sense of mission and values, so his products and services must have ideals, a sense of mission and values.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/92f8ab55569d9dc05e665a81c4a5b97d\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"688\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">However, from wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, to Jiang Fan incident, and 996 and other news. In the eyes of the outside world, \"Ali Weier\" is changing its taste.It is undeniable that Alibaba has more than 200,000 employees. Just because individual business teams have problems, it does not mean that all Alibaba people are like this.Wang Shuai, a partner of Alibaba and chairman of the Marketing Public Relations Committee, said on his personal social platform, \"Please believe that we are still in a safe environment. Such incidents are accidental and definitely not the norm. Don't worry. In the past nine years in Ali, I have never been asked, and I have never heard of a female colleague going to accompany wine or do other things beyond the bottom line. This is not Ali's way of working, please rest assured.\"However, all kinds of negative events are obviously painful for Ali. What's more, the current Ali is also in a special period of development and is facing severe challenges and crises.Previously, affected by anti-monopoly, Ali received an administrative penalty decision from the State Administration for Market Regulation in accordance with the law, ordering it to stop illegal activities, and imposing a fine of 4% of its domestic sales in China in 2019 of 455.712 billion yuan, totaling 18.228 billion yuan. In the first financial report after the penalty, Ali ushered in its first quarterly loss since its listing.According to the financial report released by Ali not long ago, Ali's overall revenue was lower than market expectations, its quarterly net profit declined, and the anti-monopoly impact continued. Furthermore,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06688\">Ant Group</a>The listing was suspended. After a series of rectifications, the net profit in the first quarter of this year declined, and Ali's investment income from Ant Group also dropped sharply from the previous quarter.In addition, in this incident, Ali may also face related civil liabilities beyond the reputation crisis.Some lawyers said that if the client admits or has evidence such as surveillance video data, then the illegal act can generally be identified. In this case, Ali, as an enterprise, should also bear civil liability for compensation if it fails to take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal. According to Article 1010 of the Civil Code, if others are sexually harassed by words, words, images, physical behaviors, etc., the victim has the right to request the perpetrator to bear civil liability according to law. Organs, enterprises, schools and other units should take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal to prevent and stop sexual harassment by taking advantage of their authority and affiliation.Repeated public opinion crises have cast a thick layer of ash on Ali's corporate culture and values. However, the public's many negative comments on Ali have been overwhelmed by huge waves. Dripping into the sea, Ali has entered a dangerous moment.\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n source：<a 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24 小时的审讯，依然正常上班、对接工作。\n\n直至事情在社交媒体爆发，舆论发酵，外界压力之下，公司才开始正面处理。\n根据阿里最新财报显示，阿里员工数已超过25万，这是一个庞大的团队。有人说，“林子大了什么鸟都有”，这么大的公司，有几个坏分子正常。\n这话听起来有点道理，但在这件事情中，让网友更气愤的是从管理层到HR的态度——当事女员工曾4次主动向阿里HR和P10级别领导反馈、沟通，但被推诿、置之不理，未能伸张正义。\n阿里首席人才官蒋芳在内网回应称，7月28日，女同事上报公司之后，因为没有警方的定论，没有在第一时间对涉事人员进行停职处理，并将行动缓慢的原因归结于教条、应急机制不够健全。\n但外界并不认为只是内部应急机制不健全这么简单，网友将质疑的矛头指向阿里价值观、企业文化出现偏差——“当你在阳光下看见了一只蟑螂，说明阴暗处已经挤不下了。”\n低俗“投名状”\n阿里巴巴的官网显示，集团有六个价值观，“客户第一，员工第二，股东第三；因为信任，所以简单；此时此刻，非我莫属；认真生活， 快乐工作......”这也被阿里自豪地称为“六脉神剑”，对于集团如何经营业务、招揽人才、考核员工以及决定员工报酬扮演着重要的角色。\n然而，时至今日，接连发生的负面桃色事件，大概也只让外界记住了这家公司不太“互联网”和逐渐走偏的风气，比如酒桌文化、破冰文化、高管婚外情丑闻。\n实际上就在一个月前，阿里内网曾经“爆”过一次，一个男员工脚踏几条船，最终被人公之于众，引发女性员工不满，并有多名女性称遇到过类似遭遇。\n但这只是冰山一角，丑闻频现的根源来自于文化。\n其中，“破冰文化”已然成为了“低俗”、“恶臭”、“骚扰”、“性骚扰”的代名词。在微博热搜#阿里 破冰文化#话题下，网友翻出几年前的“破冰游戏”图片，并表示在阿里，应届毕业的女生入职第一天，会被问很多隐私、低俗的问题。阿里方面随后发声否认：“阿里破冰文化”的截图系2018年的谣言，当时阿里巴巴已经辟谣，图中所涉人士并非阿里巴巴员工，也非阿里巴巴内部培训。\n不过，也有不少前阿里人发声，证实了阿里“破冰文化”的存在，并称这种风气在以前更加严重，尤其在销售相关的部门。\n实际上，早在2018年左右，就有不少吐槽的声音出现在社交媒体上。有内部员工表示，“阿里有‘价值观’考核，绩效的一部分，直接与奖金相关。‘价值观’考核标准通常是：是否能融入、甚至是否能组织这类活动。”无法忍受“性骚扰”文化，也是其从阿里离职的原因之一。\n一位知乎答主表示，这种“破冰仪式”在国内互联网还不在少数，其实这就相当于投名状，让你干一件平常干不了的事，从此以后，就算自己人了。所谓：“一起同过窗，一起扛过枪，一起分过赃，一起XXX。”才是关系最好。\n\n如今，这样的“破冰文化”在集团内部的明面上可能已经消失了，但对阿里来说，却是无法抹去的耻辱。而那些遗留下的不良风气和价值观，也反映在后面发生的很多事情上，一点点腐蚀着阿里这座互联网大厂的名声和形象。\n巨浪压顶\n一家公司在快速发展和扩张的过程中，利用文化治企常常能起到事半功倍的作用。作为一家五千多亿美元市值的互联网企业，实际上，阿里组织文化经历了漫长的成长和磨练。而阿里也曾在这方面树立了标杆，被很多企业效仿。\n马云曾在2018年的一次公开讲话中表示，“阿里人和其他人的区别，就是我们有阿里味”。\n什么是阿里味？“就是我们是一帮有情有义的人，去做一些有意义的事情。我们有理想主义色彩，我们务实，我们不断地改变自己，拥抱变化。在所有的阿里老员工，离开的人身上，我觉得这是最珍贵、最难得的品质。”\n他提到，衡量一个公司的好坏，不仅仅是看产品和技术，最重要的是看他员工素质的好坏。他的员工有理想，有使命感，有价值观，那他的产品和服务一定有理想，有使命感，有价值观。\n\n然而从酒桌文化、破冰文化，再到蒋凡事件，以及996等新闻。“阿里味儿”在外界看来，正在变味。\n不可否认，阿里巴巴有20多万的员工，个别业务团队出现了问题，并不代表所有阿里人都是这样。\n阿里巴巴合伙人、市场公关委员会主席王帅在其个人社交平台称，“请相信我们依然是处于安全的环境这类事件是偶发，绝对不是常态，别担心。在阿里这9年，我从没被要求过，也没听说过有女同事要去陪酒或做其他超越底线的事情。这不是阿里的工作方式，请放心。”\n不过，种种负面事件，对于阿里的教训显然是惨痛的。更何况当下的阿里，亦处在发展的特殊时期，正面临严峻的挑战和危机。\n此前，受反垄断影响，阿里收到了市场监管总局依法作出行政处罚决定，责令其停止违法行为，并处以其2019年中国境内销售额4557.12亿元4%的罚款，计182.28亿元。在处罚发生后的第一份财报中，阿里迎来上市以来首次季度亏损。\n而根据阿里前不久发布的财报，阿里整体营收低于市场预期、季度净利润下降，反垄断影响仍在持续。此外，蚂蚁集团上市暂缓，一系列整改后，今年一季度净利润的下滑，阿里从蚂蚁集团获得的投资收益环比也大幅下降。\n此外，此次事件中，阿里也可能将面临在名誉危机之外的相关民事责任。\n有律师表示，如果当事人承认或者有监控影像资料等证据，那么违法行为一般就可以认定了。在这种情况下，阿里作为企业，如果未尽到合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，也应当承担民事赔偿责任。根据《民法典》第一千零一十条规定：以言语、文字、图像、肢体行为等方式对他人实施性骚扰的，受害人有权依法请求行为人承担民事责任，机关、企业、学校等单位应当采取合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，防止和制止利用职权、从属关系等实施性骚扰。\n一再的舆论危机，让阿里的企业文化和价值观蒙上了一层厚厚的灰。但公众对阿里诸多的负面评价已巨浪压顶。滴水成海，阿里已进入危险时刻。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BABA":0.9,"09988":0.9}},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":898384761,"gmtCreate":1628474041153,"gmtModify":1703506587706,"author":{"id":"3574308930111981","authorId":"3574308930111981","name":"被幸运女神眷顾的男人","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fce1f94e85c864b88db709bfc3c7a74f","vip":1,"crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"3574308930111981","idStr":"3574308930111981"},"htmlText":"直跌100?","listText":"直跌100?","text":"直跌100?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/898384761","repostId":1112826993,"repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1112826993","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1628473240,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1112826993?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-08-09 09:40","market":"hk","language":"zh","title":"Ali's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112826993","media":"新浪科技","summary":"阿里味儿，变了吗？\n\n\n阿里文化，病了吗？\n\n\n或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？\n\n今天凌晨5点，阿里巴巴公布了“女员工被侵犯”事件处理决定：同城零售事业群总裁李永和和HRG徐昆引咎辞职，阿里巴巴首席人","content":"Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?At 5 o'clock this morning,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba</a>Announced the decision to deal with the incident of \"female employees being violated\": Li Yonghe, president of the same city retail business group, and Xu Kun of HRG resigned, Tong Wenhong, chief human resources officer of Alibaba, recorded a demerit, and the suspected male employee was dismissed and never hired. Whether there is any illegal act, the police are investigating and collecting evidence.\"Behind all these phenomena are major problems in the construction of HR cultural system and capabilities.\" Zhang Yong rarely spoke twice within 24 hours: \"We must reshape, we must change. Change must start with everyone, but first we must start with leaders and me. Please wait and see.\"The seemingly sincere attitude has not been recognized by the outside world. Ali is falling into a major crisis of values after the Jiang Fan incident. It is embarrassing that Ali's relevant HR and executives have dealt with this matter with cover-up, delay and indifference.Some people bluntly said that this time, Ali was faced with public anger, and it was collective public anger from inside and outside!This makes people wonder:Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?......Jack Ma once said that Alibaba has a vision: to live for 102 years, and to live well.Ali, who has just turned 25 now, is seriously ill, and he is not seriously ill!<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7d83f530dd8a1471ab9c41ef4d8e87e\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"2125\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">4 feedbacks, delayed for 11 days\"Ali male executive rapes female subordinate, and no one in the company cares...\"A video footage circulating on the Internet shows a woman shouting for her rights while handing out leaflets, surrounded by several security guards and bystanders whispering.At the same time, some Alibaba employees anonymously broke the whole story of the incident on social media: a leader of the company asked female employees to accompany the merchants, and carried out a series of illegal acts with the merchants when they were drunk and unconscious. The victimized employee posted on the intranet and reported to the company to no avail, and once distributed leaflets in the canteen for help.Soon the incident fermented and spread on the Internet, and broke out completely on the evening of August 7th, causing public concern and denunciation.Alibaba then responded, saying that both indecency and sexual assault are very serious crimes, and Alibaba will never tolerate them. At present, Jinan police have investigated the case, and Ali has suspended the suspected employee, and will fully cooperate with the police investigation and pay close attention to the progress and results of the police investigation.Zhang Yong, CEO of Ali, also posted on the intranet, expressing his feelings about the incident of an Ali employee suspected of assaulting a female colleague with shock, anger and shame. At the same time, he said that it is necessary to investigate clearly and give an account to all Ali students and the whole society.However, after a series of statements made by Ali, public opinion did not buy it:\"An accident happened on July 27th, and the parties called the police the next day. It was more than ten days after the incident, the official came out to respond positively. Is it possible to investigate and deal with it until you can't hide it?\"\"Four years ago, in the incident of programmers hanging up to grab mooncakes, Ali fired four employees involved one day later in order to maintain corporate culture. Why did you get indifference and delay this time?\"......According to the self-report of the female employee involved, the incident happened on the evening of July 27th, and she called the police on July 28th, but the company has been dealing with it in a peaceful and perfunctory manner: \"I have sought treatment from the company many times, but I have been perfunctory, deceived and played with applause again and again\". Even after the incident, the supervisor was detained by the police for 24 hours, and he still went to work and docked normally.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ec77476e732e26b56566af20e1131be\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"835\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">It was not until the matter broke out on social media, public opinion fermented, and under external pressure that the company began to deal with it head-on.According to Ali's latest financial report, the number of Ali employees has exceeded 250,000, which is a huge team. Some people say, \"There are all kinds of birds when the forest is big.\" In such a big company, it is normal to have a few bad elements.This sounds reasonable, but in this case, what makes netizens even more angry is the attitude from management to HR-the female employees involved have taken the initiative to give feedback and communicate with Ali HR and P10 leaders four times, but they have been shirked, ignored and failed to achieve justice.Jiang Fang, the chief talent officer of Ali, responded on the intranet that on July 28th, after the female colleague reported to the company, she did not suspend the personnel involved at the first time because there was no police conclusion, and attributed the slow action to the dogma and imperfect emergency mechanism.However, the outside world doesn't think it's just that the internal emergency response mechanism is not perfect. Netizens point their doubts to the deviation of Ali's values and corporate culture-\"When you see a cockroach in the sun, it means that the dark place can't be squeezed out.\"Vulgar \"voting certificate\"Alibaba's official website shows that the group has six values, \"customers first, employees second, shareholders third; because of trust, it is simple; at this moment, it must be me; live seriously, work happily...\" This is also proudly called the \"Six Pulse Excalibur\" by Ali, which plays an important role in how the group operates its business, recruits talents, assesses employees and determines employee remuneration.However, to this day, the successive negative sex incidents probably only make the outside world remember the company's less \"Internet\" and gradually biased atmosphere, such as wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, and executive extramarital affairs scandals.In fact, just a month ago, Ali's intranet \"exploded\" once. A male employee stepped on several boats, which was finally made public, causing dissatisfaction among female employees, and many women said they had encountered similar experiences.But this is only the tip of the iceberg. The root of frequent scandals comes from culture.Among them, \"ice-breaking culture\" has become synonymous with \"vulgarity\", \"stench\", \"harassment\" and \"sexual harassment\". Under the topic of Weibo Hot Search # Ali Icebreaking Culture #, netizens dug out the picture of \"Icebreaking Game\" a few years ago, and said that in Ali, fresh graduates will be asked many private and vulgar questions on the first day of employment. Ali later denied: The screenshot of \"Ali Ice-Breaking Culture\" was a rumor in 2018. At that time, Alibaba had refuted the rumor. The person involved in the picture was not an Alibaba employee, nor was it an internal training of Alibaba.However, many former Ali people also voiced their voices, confirming the existence of Ali's \"ice-breaking culture\" and saying that this trend was more serious in the past, especially in sales-related departments.In fact, as early as around 2018, a lot of complaints appeared on social media. Some internal employees said, \"Ali has a 'values' assessment, and part of performance is directly related to bonuses. The 'values' assessment standard is usually: whether you can integrate into or even organize such activities.\" Inability to stand the \"sexual harassment\" culture is also one of the reasons why he left Ali.One person<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">Zhihu</a>The answerer said that this kind of \"ice-breaking ceremony\" is not a few on the Internet in China. In fact, it is equivalent to voting for a certificate, asking you to do something that you can't normally do. From then on, you will be one of your own. The so-called: \"Together through the window, carry the gun together, share the stolen goods together, and XXX together.\" is the best relationship.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/595fa1b445163350f5014e8c035c2fca\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"499\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Today, such an \"ice-breaking culture\" may have disappeared on the bright side within the group, but for Ali, it is an indelible shame. And those bad ethos and values left behind are also reflected in many things that happened later, which little by little eroded the reputation and image of Ali, a giant Internet company.Huge waves press on the topIn the process of rapid development and expansion of a company, using culture to govern the enterprise can often get twice the result with half the effort. As an Internet company with a market value of more than 500 billion US dollars, in fact, Ali's organizational culture has experienced a long period of growth and tempering. Ali has also set a benchmark in this respect and has been imitated by many companies.Jack Ma once said in a public speech in 2018, \"The difference between Ali people and others is that we have Ali flavor.\"What is Ali Flavor? \"That is, we are a group of affectionate and righteous people to do something meaningful. We are idealistic, we are pragmatic, and we constantly change ourselves and embrace change. Among all the old Ali employees and those who leave, I think this is the most precious and rare quality.\"He mentioned that to measure the quality of a company, we should not only look at products and technology, but also look at the quality of its employees. His employees have ideals, a sense of mission and values, so his products and services must have ideals, a sense of mission and values.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/92f8ab55569d9dc05e665a81c4a5b97d\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"688\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">However, from wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, to Jiang Fan incident, and 996 and other news. In the eyes of the outside world, \"Ali Weier\" is changing its taste.It is undeniable that Alibaba has more than 200,000 employees. Just because individual business teams have problems, it does not mean that all Alibaba people are like this.Wang Shuai, a partner of Alibaba and chairman of the Marketing Public Relations Committee, said on his personal social platform, \"Please believe that we are still in a safe environment. Such incidents are accidental and definitely not the norm. Don't worry. In the past nine years in Ali, I have never been asked, and I have never heard of a female colleague going to accompany wine or do other things beyond the bottom line. This is not Ali's way of working, please rest assured.\"However, all kinds of negative events are obviously painful for Ali. What's more, the current Ali is also in a special period of development and is facing severe challenges and crises.Previously, affected by anti-monopoly, Ali received an administrative penalty decision from the State Administration for Market Regulation in accordance with the law, ordering it to stop illegal activities, and imposing a fine of 4% of its domestic sales in China in 2019 of 455.712 billion yuan, totaling 18.228 billion yuan. In the first financial report after the penalty, Ali ushered in its first quarterly loss since its listing.According to the financial report released by Ali not long ago, Ali's overall revenue was lower than market expectations, its quarterly net profit declined, and the anti-monopoly impact continued. Furthermore,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06688\">Ant Group</a>The listing was suspended. After a series of rectifications, the net profit in the first quarter of this year declined, and Ali's investment income from Ant Group also dropped sharply from the previous quarter.In addition, in this incident, Ali may also face related civil liabilities beyond the reputation crisis.Some lawyers said that if the client admits or has evidence such as surveillance video data, then the illegal act can generally be identified. In this case, Ali, as an enterprise, should also bear civil liability for compensation if it fails to take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal. According to Article 1010 of the Civil Code, if others are sexually harassed by words, words, images, physical behaviors, etc., the victim has the right to request the perpetrator to bear civil liability according to law. Organs, enterprises, schools and other units should take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal to prevent and stop sexual harassment by taking advantage of their authority and affiliation.Repeated public opinion crises have cast a thick layer of ash on Ali's corporate culture and values. However, the public's many negative comments on Ali have been overwhelmed by huge waves. Dripping into the sea, Ali has entered a dangerous moment.","source":"sina_tech","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Ali's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAli's \"falling knife\" is difficult to calm public anger\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n新浪科技2021-08-09 09:40\n\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\nAli taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?At 5 o'clock this morning,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba</a>Announced the decision to deal with the incident of \"female employees being violated\": Li Yonghe, president of the same city retail business group, and Xu Kun of HRG resigned, Tong Wenhong, chief human resources officer of Alibaba, recorded a demerit, and the suspected male employee was dismissed and never hired. Whether there is any illegal act, the police are investigating and collecting evidence.\"Behind all these phenomena are major problems in the construction of HR cultural system and capabilities.\" Zhang Yong rarely spoke twice within 24 hours: \"We must reshape, we must change. Change must start with everyone, but first we must start with leaders and me. Please wait and see.\"The seemingly sincere attitude has not been recognized by the outside world. Ali is falling into a major crisis of values after the Jiang Fan incident. It is embarrassing that Ali's relevant HR and executives have dealt with this matter with cover-up, delay and indifference.Some people bluntly said that this time, Ali was faced with public anger, and it was collective public anger from inside and outside!This makes people wonder:Ali taste, has it changed?Ali Culture, are you sick?Or, Ali, is there any culture to speak of?......Jack Ma once said that Alibaba has a vision: to live for 102 years, and to live well.Ali, who has just turned 25 now, is seriously ill, and he is not seriously ill!<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e7d83f530dd8a1471ab9c41ef4d8e87e\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"2125\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">4 feedbacks, delayed for 11 days\"Ali male executive rapes female subordinate, and no one in the company cares...\"A video footage circulating on the Internet shows a woman shouting for her rights while handing out leaflets, surrounded by several security guards and bystanders whispering.At the same time, some Alibaba employees anonymously broke the whole story of the incident on social media: a leader of the company asked female employees to accompany the merchants, and carried out a series of illegal acts with the merchants when they were drunk and unconscious. The victimized employee posted on the intranet and reported to the company to no avail, and once distributed leaflets in the canteen for help.Soon the incident fermented and spread on the Internet, and broke out completely on the evening of August 7th, causing public concern and denunciation.Alibaba then responded, saying that both indecency and sexual assault are very serious crimes, and Alibaba will never tolerate them. At present, Jinan police have investigated the case, and Ali has suspended the suspected employee, and will fully cooperate with the police investigation and pay close attention to the progress and results of the police investigation.Zhang Yong, CEO of Ali, also posted on the intranet, expressing his feelings about the incident of an Ali employee suspected of assaulting a female colleague with shock, anger and shame. At the same time, he said that it is necessary to investigate clearly and give an account to all Ali students and the whole society.However, after a series of statements made by Ali, public opinion did not buy it:\"An accident happened on July 27th, and the parties called the police the next day. It was more than ten days after the incident, the official came out to respond positively. Is it possible to investigate and deal with it until you can't hide it?\"\"Four years ago, in the incident of programmers hanging up to grab mooncakes, Ali fired four employees involved one day later in order to maintain corporate culture. Why did you get indifference and delay this time?\"......According to the self-report of the female employee involved, the incident happened on the evening of July 27th, and she called the police on July 28th, but the company has been dealing with it in a peaceful and perfunctory manner: \"I have sought treatment from the company many times, but I have been perfunctory, deceived and played with applause again and again\". Even after the incident, the supervisor was detained by the police for 24 hours, and he still went to work and docked normally.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ec77476e732e26b56566af20e1131be\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"835\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">It was not until the matter broke out on social media, public opinion fermented, and under external pressure that the company began to deal with it head-on.According to Ali's latest financial report, the number of Ali employees has exceeded 250,000, which is a huge team. Some people say, \"There are all kinds of birds when the forest is big.\" In such a big company, it is normal to have a few bad elements.This sounds reasonable, but in this case, what makes netizens even more angry is the attitude from management to HR-the female employees involved have taken the initiative to give feedback and communicate with Ali HR and P10 leaders four times, but they have been shirked, ignored and failed to achieve justice.Jiang Fang, the chief talent officer of Ali, responded on the intranet that on July 28th, after the female colleague reported to the company, she did not suspend the personnel involved at the first time because there was no police conclusion, and attributed the slow action to the dogma and imperfect emergency mechanism.However, the outside world doesn't think it's just that the internal emergency response mechanism is not perfect. Netizens point their doubts to the deviation of Ali's values and corporate culture-\"When you see a cockroach in the sun, it means that the dark place can't be squeezed out.\"Vulgar \"voting certificate\"Alibaba's official website shows that the group has six values, \"customers first, employees second, shareholders third; because of trust, it is simple; at this moment, it must be me; live seriously, work happily...\" This is also proudly called the \"Six Pulse Excalibur\" by Ali, which plays an important role in how the group operates its business, recruits talents, assesses employees and determines employee remuneration.However, to this day, the successive negative sex incidents probably only make the outside world remember the company's less \"Internet\" and gradually biased atmosphere, such as wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, and executive extramarital affairs scandals.In fact, just a month ago, Ali's intranet \"exploded\" once. A male employee stepped on several boats, which was finally made public, causing dissatisfaction among female employees, and many women said they had encountered similar experiences.But this is only the tip of the iceberg. The root of frequent scandals comes from culture.Among them, \"ice-breaking culture\" has become synonymous with \"vulgarity\", \"stench\", \"harassment\" and \"sexual harassment\". Under the topic of Weibo Hot Search # Ali Icebreaking Culture #, netizens dug out the picture of \"Icebreaking Game\" a few years ago, and said that in Ali, fresh graduates will be asked many private and vulgar questions on the first day of employment. Ali later denied: The screenshot of \"Ali Ice-Breaking Culture\" was a rumor in 2018. At that time, Alibaba had refuted the rumor. The person involved in the picture was not an Alibaba employee, nor was it an internal training of Alibaba.However, many former Ali people also voiced their voices, confirming the existence of Ali's \"ice-breaking culture\" and saying that this trend was more serious in the past, especially in sales-related departments.In fact, as early as around 2018, a lot of complaints appeared on social media. Some internal employees said, \"Ali has a 'values' assessment, and part of performance is directly related to bonuses. The 'values' assessment standard is usually: whether you can integrate into or even organize such activities.\" Inability to stand the \"sexual harassment\" culture is also one of the reasons why he left Ali.One person<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">Zhihu</a>The answerer said that this kind of \"ice-breaking ceremony\" is not a few on the Internet in China. In fact, it is equivalent to voting for a certificate, asking you to do something that you can't normally do. From then on, you will be one of your own. The so-called: \"Together through the window, carry the gun together, share the stolen goods together, and XXX together.\" is the best relationship.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/595fa1b445163350f5014e8c035c2fca\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"499\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Today, such an \"ice-breaking culture\" may have disappeared on the bright side within the group, but for Ali, it is an indelible shame. And those bad ethos and values left behind are also reflected in many things that happened later, which little by little eroded the reputation and image of Ali, a giant Internet company.Huge waves press on the topIn the process of rapid development and expansion of a company, using culture to govern the enterprise can often get twice the result with half the effort. As an Internet company with a market value of more than 500 billion US dollars, in fact, Ali's organizational culture has experienced a long period of growth and tempering. Ali has also set a benchmark in this respect and has been imitated by many companies.Jack Ma once said in a public speech in 2018, \"The difference between Ali people and others is that we have Ali flavor.\"What is Ali Flavor? \"That is, we are a group of affectionate and righteous people to do something meaningful. We are idealistic, we are pragmatic, and we constantly change ourselves and embrace change. Among all the old Ali employees and those who leave, I think this is the most precious and rare quality.\"He mentioned that to measure the quality of a company, we should not only look at products and technology, but also look at the quality of its employees. His employees have ideals, a sense of mission and values, so his products and services must have ideals, a sense of mission and values.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/92f8ab55569d9dc05e665a81c4a5b97d\" tg-width=\"1052\" tg-height=\"688\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">However, from wine table culture, ice-breaking culture, to Jiang Fan incident, and 996 and other news. In the eyes of the outside world, \"Ali Weier\" is changing its taste.It is undeniable that Alibaba has more than 200,000 employees. Just because individual business teams have problems, it does not mean that all Alibaba people are like this.Wang Shuai, a partner of Alibaba and chairman of the Marketing Public Relations Committee, said on his personal social platform, \"Please believe that we are still in a safe environment. Such incidents are accidental and definitely not the norm. Don't worry. In the past nine years in Ali, I have never been asked, and I have never heard of a female colleague going to accompany wine or do other things beyond the bottom line. This is not Ali's way of working, please rest assured.\"However, all kinds of negative events are obviously painful for Ali. What's more, the current Ali is also in a special period of development and is facing severe challenges and crises.Previously, affected by anti-monopoly, Ali received an administrative penalty decision from the State Administration for Market Regulation in accordance with the law, ordering it to stop illegal activities, and imposing a fine of 4% of its domestic sales in China in 2019 of 455.712 billion yuan, totaling 18.228 billion yuan. In the first financial report after the penalty, Ali ushered in its first quarterly loss since its listing.According to the financial report released by Ali not long ago, Ali's overall revenue was lower than market expectations, its quarterly net profit declined, and the anti-monopoly impact continued. Furthermore,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06688\">Ant Group</a>The listing was suspended. After a series of rectifications, the net profit in the first quarter of this year declined, and Ali's investment income from Ant Group also dropped sharply from the previous quarter.In addition, in this incident, Ali may also face related civil liabilities beyond the reputation crisis.Some lawyers said that if the client admits or has evidence such as surveillance video data, then the illegal act can generally be identified. In this case, Ali, as an enterprise, should also bear civil liability for compensation if it fails to take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal. According to Article 1010 of the Civil Code, if others are sexually harassed by words, words, images, physical behaviors, etc., the victim has the right to request the perpetrator to bear civil liability according to law. Organs, enterprises, schools and other units should take reasonable measures such as prevention, acceptance of complaints, investigation and disposal to prevent and stop sexual harassment by taking advantage of their authority and affiliation.Repeated public opinion crises have cast a thick layer of ash on Ali's corporate culture and values. However, the public's many negative comments on Ali have been overwhelmed by huge waves. Dripping into the sea, Ali has entered a dangerous moment.\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n source：<a href=\"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bdf-exXlYUyxyKi1VJsStg\">新浪科技</a>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6d3c3d7d963f41e04ac00b609a15d980","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bdf-exXlYUyxyKi1VJsStg","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112826993","content_text":"阿里味儿，变了吗？\n\n\n阿里文化，病了吗？\n\n\n或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？\n\n今天凌晨5点，阿里巴巴公布了“女员工被侵犯”事件处理决定：同城零售事业群总裁李永和和HRG徐昆引咎辞职，阿里巴巴首席人力资源官童文红记过处分，涉嫌男员工被辞退，永不录用，其是否存在违法行为，警方正在调查取证。\n“这种种现象的背后是HR文化体系和能力的建设出现了重大问题”，张勇罕见地在24小时内二次发声：“我们必须重塑，我们必须改变。改变必须从每个人做起，但是首先必须从领导者做起，从我做起。请大家拭目以待。”\n看似诚恳的态度，尚未得到外界认可。阿里正在陷入继蒋凡事件之后的重大价值观危机，阿里相关HR和高管对此事包庇、拖延、冷漠的处理方式，令人唏嘘。\n有人直言，这一次，阿里面对的是众怒，而且是来自内外部的集体众怒！\n这让人不禁怀疑：\n阿里味儿，变了吗？\n阿里文化，病了吗？\n或者说，阿里，还有文化可言吗？\n......\n马云曾说，阿里巴巴有一个愿景：要活102年，而且是要活得好。\n如今刚满25岁的阿里，得了场重病，还病得不轻！\n\n4次反馈，被拖延11天\n“阿里男高管强奸女下属，公司无人问管......”\n一段网上流传的视频画面显示，一名女性一边发传单一边呐喊维权，周围站着几位安保人员和小声议论的旁观者。\n同时，有阿里巴巴员工在社交媒体上匿名爆料了事件原委：公司某领导要求女性员工陪商户，并与商户在其因醉酒不清醒的情况下实施了一系列违法行为。受害员工在内网发帖并向公司反映无果，曾在食堂发传单寻求帮助。\n很快事件在网络上发酵、传播，于8月7日晚间彻底爆发，引发舆论关注和声讨。\n阿里巴巴随后做出回应，称无论是猥亵还是性侵，都是非常严重的犯罪行为，阿里巴巴决不容忍。目前，济南警方已对该案进行调查，阿里已对涉嫌员工停职，并将全力配合警方调查，密切关注警方调查进展和结果。\n阿里CEO张勇也在内网发文，用震惊、气愤、羞愧，表达对阿里一员工涉嫌侵害女同事事件的感受。他同时表示，必须调查清楚，给全体阿里同学和全社会一个交代。\n然而，阿里方的一系列表态后，舆论并不买账：\n“7月27日出事，次日当事人报警，2事情发生十多天后官方才出来正面回应，是瞒不住了才调查处理吗？”\n“4年前程序员挂机抢月饼事件中，阿里为维护企业文化一天后就将四名涉事员工开除。这一次为何得到的却是冷漠、拖延处理？”\n......\n根据当事女员工的自述内容，事情发生在7月27日晚间，自己于7月28日报警，但公司却一直以息事宁人、敷衍包庇的态度处理：“多次向公司寻求处理，却一而再再而三的被敷衍被欺骗被玩弄于鼓掌”。甚至当事主管在事发后，接受完警察拘留 24 小时的审讯，依然正常上班、对接工作。\n\n直至事情在社交媒体爆发，舆论发酵，外界压力之下，公司才开始正面处理。\n根据阿里最新财报显示，阿里员工数已超过25万，这是一个庞大的团队。有人说，“林子大了什么鸟都有”，这么大的公司，有几个坏分子正常。\n这话听起来有点道理，但在这件事情中，让网友更气愤的是从管理层到HR的态度——当事女员工曾4次主动向阿里HR和P10级别领导反馈、沟通，但被推诿、置之不理，未能伸张正义。\n阿里首席人才官蒋芳在内网回应称，7月28日，女同事上报公司之后，因为没有警方的定论，没有在第一时间对涉事人员进行停职处理，并将行动缓慢的原因归结于教条、应急机制不够健全。\n但外界并不认为只是内部应急机制不健全这么简单，网友将质疑的矛头指向阿里价值观、企业文化出现偏差——“当你在阳光下看见了一只蟑螂，说明阴暗处已经挤不下了。”\n低俗“投名状”\n阿里巴巴的官网显示，集团有六个价值观，“客户第一，员工第二，股东第三；因为信任，所以简单；此时此刻，非我莫属；认真生活， 快乐工作......”这也被阿里自豪地称为“六脉神剑”，对于集团如何经营业务、招揽人才、考核员工以及决定员工报酬扮演着重要的角色。\n然而，时至今日，接连发生的负面桃色事件，大概也只让外界记住了这家公司不太“互联网”和逐渐走偏的风气，比如酒桌文化、破冰文化、高管婚外情丑闻。\n实际上就在一个月前，阿里内网曾经“爆”过一次，一个男员工脚踏几条船，最终被人公之于众，引发女性员工不满，并有多名女性称遇到过类似遭遇。\n但这只是冰山一角，丑闻频现的根源来自于文化。\n其中，“破冰文化”已然成为了“低俗”、“恶臭”、“骚扰”、“性骚扰”的代名词。在微博热搜#阿里 破冰文化#话题下，网友翻出几年前的“破冰游戏”图片，并表示在阿里，应届毕业的女生入职第一天，会被问很多隐私、低俗的问题。阿里方面随后发声否认：“阿里破冰文化”的截图系2018年的谣言，当时阿里巴巴已经辟谣，图中所涉人士并非阿里巴巴员工，也非阿里巴巴内部培训。\n不过，也有不少前阿里人发声，证实了阿里“破冰文化”的存在，并称这种风气在以前更加严重，尤其在销售相关的部门。\n实际上，早在2018年左右，就有不少吐槽的声音出现在社交媒体上。有内部员工表示，“阿里有‘价值观’考核，绩效的一部分，直接与奖金相关。‘价值观’考核标准通常是：是否能融入、甚至是否能组织这类活动。”无法忍受“性骚扰”文化，也是其从阿里离职的原因之一。\n一位知乎答主表示，这种“破冰仪式”在国内互联网还不在少数，其实这就相当于投名状，让你干一件平常干不了的事，从此以后，就算自己人了。所谓：“一起同过窗，一起扛过枪，一起分过赃，一起XXX。”才是关系最好。\n\n如今，这样的“破冰文化”在集团内部的明面上可能已经消失了，但对阿里来说，却是无法抹去的耻辱。而那些遗留下的不良风气和价值观，也反映在后面发生的很多事情上，一点点腐蚀着阿里这座互联网大厂的名声和形象。\n巨浪压顶\n一家公司在快速发展和扩张的过程中，利用文化治企常常能起到事半功倍的作用。作为一家五千多亿美元市值的互联网企业，实际上，阿里组织文化经历了漫长的成长和磨练。而阿里也曾在这方面树立了标杆，被很多企业效仿。\n马云曾在2018年的一次公开讲话中表示，“阿里人和其他人的区别，就是我们有阿里味”。\n什么是阿里味？“就是我们是一帮有情有义的人，去做一些有意义的事情。我们有理想主义色彩，我们务实，我们不断地改变自己，拥抱变化。在所有的阿里老员工，离开的人身上，我觉得这是最珍贵、最难得的品质。”\n他提到，衡量一个公司的好坏，不仅仅是看产品和技术，最重要的是看他员工素质的好坏。他的员工有理想，有使命感，有价值观，那他的产品和服务一定有理想，有使命感，有价值观。\n\n然而从酒桌文化、破冰文化，再到蒋凡事件，以及996等新闻。“阿里味儿”在外界看来，正在变味。\n不可否认，阿里巴巴有20多万的员工，个别业务团队出现了问题，并不代表所有阿里人都是这样。\n阿里巴巴合伙人、市场公关委员会主席王帅在其个人社交平台称，“请相信我们依然是处于安全的环境这类事件是偶发，绝对不是常态，别担心。在阿里这9年，我从没被要求过，也没听说过有女同事要去陪酒或做其他超越底线的事情。这不是阿里的工作方式，请放心。”\n不过，种种负面事件，对于阿里的教训显然是惨痛的。更何况当下的阿里，亦处在发展的特殊时期，正面临严峻的挑战和危机。\n此前，受反垄断影响，阿里收到了市场监管总局依法作出行政处罚决定，责令其停止违法行为，并处以其2019年中国境内销售额4557.12亿元4%的罚款，计182.28亿元。在处罚发生后的第一份财报中，阿里迎来上市以来首次季度亏损。\n而根据阿里前不久发布的财报，阿里整体营收低于市场预期、季度净利润下降，反垄断影响仍在持续。此外，蚂蚁集团上市暂缓，一系列整改后，今年一季度净利润的下滑，阿里从蚂蚁集团获得的投资收益环比也大幅下降。\n此外，此次事件中，阿里也可能将面临在名誉危机之外的相关民事责任。\n有律师表示，如果当事人承认或者有监控影像资料等证据，那么违法行为一般就可以认定了。在这种情况下，阿里作为企业，如果未尽到合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，也应当承担民事赔偿责任。根据《民法典》第一千零一十条规定：以言语、文字、图像、肢体行为等方式对他人实施性骚扰的，受害人有权依法请求行为人承担民事责任，机关、企业、学校等单位应当采取合理的预防、受理投诉、调查处置等措施，防止和制止利用职权、从属关系等实施性骚扰。\n一再的舆论危机，让阿里的企业文化和价值观蒙上了一层厚厚的灰。但公众对阿里诸多的负面评价已巨浪压顶。滴水成海，阿里已进入危险时刻。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BABA":0.9,"09988":0.9}},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"CN"}],"isCommentEnd":false,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":24,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":0,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false},"APP":{"userAgent":"Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; 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