[Discussion] How Do You Tell When a Market Armageddon Is Coming?

Tiger_SG
11-21
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Some say that a market crash is the best opportunity for ordinary people to make money. Most retail investors have small capital and average trading skills, so they rarely make significant profits in normal markets. But a crash is different — after a major plunge or even a 50% wipeout, going all-in can lead to outsized gains.

But how can you tell whether something is truly a market crash? And when should you start bottom-fishing?

For most investors, the biggest question during a downturn is when to buy the dip.

If you buy too early, the volatility will shred your nerves; buy too late, and you miss the bottom — or hesitate to buy during the rebound. Either way, you end up making nothing.

Some say sentiment is the key to judging whether it’s time to bottom-fish and whether the situation qualifies as a crash.

Today, the fear index for the market has already reached 7 — extreme fear. But back in April, extreme fear dropped as low as 4. So does that mean we haven’t bottomed yet?
If we really repeat April, the downside could be much worse. And for now, $NASDAQ(.IXIC)$ is only down about 8% from its high and still up 14% year-to-date, which hardly counts as a crash.

Others say you can judge it by watching your friends or your stock-trading groups.

At the start of a decline, everyone still blames the CEO or curses at the market. But once most investors are deep in losses, out of cash, and too defeated to complain, that’s when the bottom is in.

So some believe you should always keep at least 50% of your funds available — ready for the next real crash.

Although the market is dropping sharply right now, the scale of the decline still doesn’t look like what we saw in April.

So how do you know when a true market crash has begun?

And which indicators can help you pick the bottom?

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How Do You Tell When a Market Armageddon Is Coming?
For most investors, the biggest question during a market downturn is when to bottom-fish. Buy too early, and your nerves can’t handle it; buy too late, and you miss the bottom. Either way, you end up making no money. The declines so far don’t seem to match the levels seen in April. How do you judge if a full-blown market crash has really arrived? What indicators help you pick the bottom?
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  • Shyon
    11-22
    Shyon
    When markets fall sharply, many say it’s the best time for ordinary investors to build wealth, but it’s hard to tell whether the drop is a true crash or just a correction. Sentiment helps, but it’s not precise — fear is high now at 7, yet in April it hit 4 and the market still sank further. With the NASDAQ only down about 8% and still positive for the year, this doesn’t look like a real crash.

    I also watch the mood in stock groups. Early in a decline, people still rant and blame CEOs. The real bottom often appears when everyone goes quiet — when losses are deep and no one has energy to complain. That kind of silence is a stronger signal than any index, and we’re not there yet.

    So at this point, I don’t think this is a true crash. The drop is sharp but lacks clear signs of capitulation. To find the real bottom, I look for extreme fear, investor silence, forced selling, and irrationally oversold prices. Until those show up, I stay patient.

    @Tiger_comments @TigerStars @Tiger_SG

  • Universe宇宙
    11-22
    Universe宇宙
    When a true stock market crash occurs, it is possible that additional stocks will experience trading halts. Furthermore, some stocks that are already under trading halts, such as $Hyflux(600.SI)$ , $EC World Reit(BWCU.SI)$ , and $Dasin Retail Tr(CEDU.SI)$ , may have their halts extended.
  • koolgal
    11-22
    koolgal
    🌟🌟🌟When the fear index screams "extreme fear", the mind races.  We feel the gut wrenching prospect of another April repeat where the downside could be much worse.

    While our fear is valid, history - that relentless teacher whispers a different story.  It reminds us that the markets always go up in the long run.

    Our goal isn't to perfectly time the market armaggedon or to pinpoint the absolute bottom.  The futility of that task would shred anyone's nerves. Buying too early feels like a gut punch. Buying too late means missing the  opportunity.

    The good news? We don't have to choose.

    Wisdom lies not in the timing but in the process. Our mission is to focus on what we can control - our emotions & our actions.

    This is where the quiet, consistent power of dollar cost averaging comes in. Our patience & discipline will be the things we look back with pride when the sun shines on the market again.

    @Tiger_SG @TigerStars @Tiger_comments @TigerClub @CaptainTiger

  • icycrystal
    11-22
    icycrystal
    perhaps AI will come in handy during this time... [Thinking] [Thinking] [Thinking]
  • Alubin
    11-22
    Alubin
    For me it’s mainly for dividend investing. So I’m looking out for good dividend levels based on the revised price of the variety of stocks. Will only get in when it reached a good level I and willing to hold long
  • Tiger_SG
    12-12 19:21
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