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01-22 08:25

U think trump will not support EVs? Who is his biggest ally? Elon!!

Why Tesla (TSLA) Shares Are Falling Today

01-15

So wats the conclusion? Buy or sell??

Is Tesla Stock A Buy Or A Sell Amid Donald Trump's White House Return And Q4 Earnings?

01-09

Who care?? Seriously why are we monitoring wat people sell or buy? Does it affect your life in stocks!?

Tesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson sold 63,370 Shares.

01-06

Why again such news? To kill tsla??

Tesla Could See 40% of Its Profits Evaporate When Trump Takes Office, JPMorgan Says

01-03

Seriously?? Why tis update..does it matter to those who are in for long or even shorts?

Tesla Stock Rebounded 2% in Morning Trading After Dropping 6% on Thursday

01-03

Just wait..it will rise

Tesla Stock Slides. Annual Deliveries Dropped for First Time

2024-12-17

Now suddenly all buy tsla? 6 months ago so many were against

Why Tesla's Stock Can Keep Soaring (Upgrade)

2024-11-20

Stop making such predictions. The more u do..more will buy into it

Is Palantir Stock in Trouble? Jefferies Predicts a 60% Crash

2024-11-20

They love to use the word its is pricey now. And the moment they say sell. Dont get taken in. You sell..they buy. It jus goes up

Cathie Wood Is Selling Palantir Stock. Here's Why That Makes Sense

2024-11-13

Dont believe all these traps. U sell..it will just go 🔝

Palantir: Take Profits Before It's Too Late

2024-10-31

She dump..we buy. Wont be wrong

Cathie Wood Shuffles Her Tech Deck: Continues Dumping Tesla And Palantir, Stocks Up On AMD And Meta

2024-10-17

Cmon..why are u being so negative? Missed out on an earlier chance or trying to short?

Palantir: Time To Cash Out

2024-10-14

Why Hold when this stock is blooming? Analysts like tis one basically are paid to kill the stock. Think carefully

Palantir's Higher Price Raises Risks

2024-10-09

So this is how analysts create such reports for shorts? dont be fooled

Will Palantir Stock Hit the $50 Mark?

2024-10-03

U believe him? Cos he is pushing for a shorts

Palantir's Valuation Is A Lord Of The Rings Fantasy

2024-07-30

Suddenly these people are asking us to buy Tsla! Few weeks ago was...Dont buy! Its a dead stock

6 Reasons To Buy Tesla

2024-07-23

Tomorrow the market will crash..do u know??

3 Singapore REITs I Plan to Buy When the Market Crashes

2024-07-13

Congrats on those who shorted before market opened! Cos u probably died

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2024-07-12

Wat a stupid assessment

Tesla Is Great. Here's Why You Shouldn't Buy It

2024-07-12

Its all manipulated by who else?? Elon!!

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Tesla also deployed 11 gigawatt-hours of energy storage products. For the full year, Tesla energy storage deployments totaled 31.4 gigawatt hours. Tesla delivered 1.789 million vehicles while producing 1.773 million units in 2024.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla had said it expected &#34;slight&#34; vehicle delivery growth in 2024 after the company saw vehicle deliveries rise 38% to 1.81 million in 2023. However, with unit sales lagging in the U.S. and Europe the had been  looking for solutions to drum up demand, offering various discounts and incentives to boost demand. China has been particularly strong in Q4 while the U.S. and Europe have been weak.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Looking further out, Chief Executive Elon Musk proclaimed on the Q3 earnings call that vehicle sales could grow &#34;20%-30%&#34; in 2025.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;The miss reflects a relatively aged product and increased availability of lower priced competition globally ahead of the hyped introduction of the cheaper new model (Juniper) in early/mid-2025, which more than offset pre-buy and promotional forces,&#34; Morgan Stanley&#39;s Adam Jonas wrote following the report.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla reports Q4 earnings and revenue after the market closes on Jan. 29. Analysts predict Q4 EPS growing 7% to 76 cents with sales totaling $27.16 billion, up 8% compared to Q4 2023. Investors will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.</p><h2 id=\"id_3287306393\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Delaware Court Decision</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Meanwhile, Delaware Court of Chancery Judge Kathaleen McCormick recently stuck with her January decision and once more rejected Musk&#39;s $56 billion compensation package from 2018. The pay deal is now worth more than $100 billion.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In a statement on X, Tesla said it will appeal the court&#39;s decision.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In June, some 77% of shareholders voting approved giving Musk his 2018 $56 billion pay package, or 72% excluding Musk and his brother, Kimbal Musk. Tesla shareholders also voted this year in favor of reincorporating the company in Texas, moving it from Delaware.</p><p>Before the June shareholder vote, Musk suggested he might shift Tesla resources to his privately held xAI if he didn&#39;t get the pay deal, as well as further power giving him a 25% voting stake.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk currently has a nearly 13% stake in Tesla. Prior to selling TSLA shares to purchase Twitter, now X, for $44 billion in late 2022, Musk owned around 22% of Tesla.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Judge Kathaleen McCormick wrote in in the opinion that, &#34;Even if a stockholder vote could have a ratifying effect, it could not do so here.&#34;</p><h2 id=\"id_1356796486\" style=\"text-align: start;\">FSD Version 13</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he&#39;s said similar &#34;this year&#34; or &#34;next year&#34; statements for about a decade.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Jonas in a recent note remained cautious about Tesla&#39;s autonomous driving prospects in the short term.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;While a reassessment of self-driving policies at a national level could be inevitable in our view, we believe Tesla still faces significant hurdles to overcome in terms of technology, testing and permitting required for commercialization,&#34; Jonas wrote. &#34;However, we believe U.S. states and metro areas will continue to have the greatest say on final deployment.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The EV giant first began rolling out the latest FSD upgrade to employees and limited outside customers.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The EV giant hyped-up expectations by predicting its FSD version 13 will show a six-times improvement in terms of miles-per driver intervention. Currently, FSD v13 appears to be a limited version, but has the ability to unpark, reverse, and park. It is still listed as &#34;supervised&#34; FSD, according to Tesla.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk on the third-quarter earnings call said he expects &#34;fully autonomous unsupervised FSD in California and Texas next year — that&#39;s with the Model 3 and Model Y.&#34; However, Musk admitted that he tends to be a &#34;little optimistic with time frames.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk also conceded on the Q3 call that Tesla EVs with Hardware 3.0 might not be able to achieve true self-driving. He said if that&#39;s the case, Tesla will upgrade FSD customers with HW3.0 for free.</p><h2 id=\"id_522098662\" style=\"text-align: start;\">IRA Tax Credit</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA shares about 5.8% on Nov. 14 amid reports the president-elect&#39;s transition team plans to discontinue the Inflation Reduction Act, IRA, $7,500 EV consumer tax credit. The move was not a surprise to analysts and Musk has appeared to already endorse the idea of cutting the tax credit, echoing the belief that Tesla can thrive without it.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">However, if the IRA tax credits are stripped away, it could hit Tesla&#39;s auto business. The EV giant has already slashed prices repeatedly over the past year to drum up consumer interest amid waning demand.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla continues to ramp up incentives, especially in the U.S., as the company targets record deliveries in Q4. The EV giant recently announced a year-end discount on local Model Y sales.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;We expect Musk to have a big seat at the table as these EV discussions happen within the Trump transition team,&#34; Wedbush analyst Dan Ives wrote at the time. &#34;We believe any sell-off in Tesla from these reports is the wrong knee-jerk reaction and we would be buyers.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Meanwhile, the dual-motor Tesla Cybertruck is now eligible for the $7,500 IRA tax credit, which should boost demand, at least to start 2025.</p><h2 id=\"id_3253149467\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Musk-Trump Alliance</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Analysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Late on Nov. 12, Trump announced in a statement that Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to &#34;dismantle Government Bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures and restructure Federal Agencies.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk, in the statement, said, &#34;This will send shockwaves through the system.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The Department of Government Efficiency is tasked with providing &#34;advice and guidance from outside of Government and will partner with the White House and Office of Management &amp; Budget.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;Musk&#39;s significant influence in the Trump White House is already having a major influence and ultimately the golden path for Tesla around Cybercabs and autonomous is now within reach with an emboldened Trump/Musk strategic alliance playing out in real time and very in line with our thesis,&#34; Ives wrote on Nov. 29.</p><p>However, JPMorgan in early January estimated that, based on Trump&#39;s proposals to remove EV tax credits and subsidies, about 40% of Tesla&#39;s profits would be in danger after Trump takes office.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;Tesla does not appear to us on track to dominate the global auto industry amidst the electrification transition, which we view as only the starting point for present valuation,&#34; JPMorgan analyst Ryan Brinkman wrote.</p><h2 id=\"id_1199505172\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla: Third-Quarter Earnings</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The EV giant&#39;s third-quarter earnings unexpectedly rose 9% in the third quarter, snapping a four-quarter string of year-over-year declines. Revenue came in slightly below forecasts. Gross margins jumped, fueled by strong Tesla Energy margins and a record-low cost of goods sold.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Regulatory credits were high at $739 million, though below Q2&#39;s $890 million. FSD revenue recognition also may have helped.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla&#39;s CFO said the EV maker may not be able to sustain Q3&#39;s margins in Q4. Plans for new vehicles, including more affordable models, remain on track for start of production in the first half of 2025, Tesla reported.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On the Tesla earnings conference call, Musk pegs Q2 2025 as the internal target for FSD unsupervised to be safer than a human driver. Tesla said it&#39;s testing a ride-hailing services with employees, using a human safety driver.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk added that the upcoming &#34;affordable&#34; EV will cost less than $30,000, &#34;with incentives.&#34;</p><h2 id=\"id_3901778168\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Stock: The Robotaxi Event</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk set sky-high expectations for the &#34;We Robot&#34; event. But after showing off a Cybercab and Robovan late on Oct. 10, the market seemed unimpressed with Musk as he once more claimed full autonomous driving will come &#34;next year&#34; but did not offer any details or updates of an &#34;affordable&#34; EV.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The event was high on theatrics with Musk riding the two-seat Cybercab, with butterfly doors and no steering wheel, briefly to the stage to give his remarks. Dancing Optimus robots were paraded out with the Tesla humanoids serving attendees drinks. However, the consensus among analysts was that while the event was high on pomp and circumstance, it underdelivered on details.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk did say he expects the Cybercab price tag will be below $30,000, with production starting &#34;before 2027.&#34; The Tesla chief also showed off the latest Optimus robot. He expects that the cost could be $25,000-$30,000 when produced at scale.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;That&#39;s it? Disappointing lack of detail,&#34; Jonas proclaimed in his investor note following the event. Wells Fargo analysts echoed that sentiment, writing that Tesla&#39;s robotaxi event was mostly &#34;razzle-dazzle&#34; with &#34;little substance.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;We were overall disappointed with the substance and detail of the presentation. As such, we anticipated TSLA to be under pressure following the event,&#34; Jonas added.</p><h2 id=\"id_3623164678\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Cathie Wood On The Robotaxi</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock sold off hard the day following the robotaxi event, sending a sell signal to investors. However, Cathie Wood and her Ark Invest ignored that and purchased nearly $3 million in TSLA shares.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Wood, who has long been super-bullish on Tesla&#39;s autonomy push and robotaxi aims, attended Tesla&#39;s robotaxi event on Thursday. On June 12, Ark Invest updated its  Tesla stock price target to 2,600 by 2029, estimating that around 90% of Tesla&#39;s enterprise value and earnings will be attributed to the robotaxi business in 2029.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Wood&#39;s Ark Invest tends to purchase Tesla stock and other positions amid sell-offs or when they break below key moving averages. Without a robotaxi network and business, Ark Invest says its TSLA price target would be around $350 per share, according to the report.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;We remain confident that the service will launch within the next five years,&#34; Ark Invest said.</p><h2 id=\"id_830596577\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla EVs In Regulators&#39; Sights</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced in January it opened an investigation into Tesla, citing &#34;Actually Smart Summon sessions resulting in crashes during the session, including where the operator does not have enough time to react due to vehicle proximity or line of sight.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Federal regulators wrote they have received one complaint alleging that an Actually Smart Summon session resulted in a crash and has reviewed at least three media reports of apparently similar crashes. All four incidents involve Tesla vehicles operating in Actually Smart Summon failing to detect posts or parked vehicles, resulting in a crash, according to NHTSA.</p><h2 id=\"id_1376675176\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Is Tesla Stock A Buy?</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The stock slipped a fraction to 394.74 on Friday, but did rebound from the 10-week line intraday. Tesla shares fell 3.8% for the week, dropping below 21-day line, even as the EV giant refreshed the popular Model Y in China.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA stock is on the IBD Leaderboard watchlist.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock on Dec. 11 cleared the company&#39;s longtime all-time high of 414.50, which it hit on Nov. 4, 2021. The stock had previously last touched 400 in January 2022, according to MarketSurge charts.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3825fdab56ed0a4ad45d691b5659d179\" tg-width=\"1223\" tg-height=\"634\"/></p><p>Tesla topped the $1 trillion mark on Nov. 8 for the first time in two years. On Nov. 6, Tesla stock gapped up above an alternate handle buy point of 273.54 but was quickly extended. Tesla stock popped 3.2% to 369.49 on Dec. 5, clearing a recent range, which could have offered an add-on entry for existing TSLA holders.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On Dec. 18, Tesla stock retreated 8.3% to 440.13, after hitting a record high of 488.54 intraday.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock ranks first in the 35-member IBD Auto Manufacturers industry group. The stock has a 91 Composite Rating out of a best-possible 99. Shares also have a 97 Relative Strength Rating and a 78 EPS Rating.</p><p>Almost single-handedly, Elon Musk has turned the auto industry on its head. He has essentially forced it to get aboard the electric-vehicle train. Tesla has been a monster stock over much of its history, especially during its stratospheric run from mid-2019 to late 2021.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA shares consolidated after hitting a record 488.54 on Dec. 18, narrowing the distance above the 10-week line. Ideally, the EV giant would find support around its 10-week and 50-day moving averages or even forge a new base for a buying opportunity.</p></body></html>","source":"investor_business_daily_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla Stock A Buy Or A Sell Amid Donald Trump's White House Return And Q4 Earnings?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs Tesla Stock A Buy Or A Sell Amid Donald Trump's White House Return And Q4 Earnings?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2025-01-14 16:30 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-buy-or-sellin-2025-donald-trump-elon-musk/><strong>Investor’s Business Daily</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump's election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-buy-or-sellin-2025-donald-trump-elon-musk/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares"},"source_url":"https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-buy-or-sellin-2025-donald-trump-elon-musk/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2503535851","content_text":"Tesla stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump's election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, including possibly dialing back the Inflation Reduction Act and the potential easing of regulations for autonomous vehicles.TSLA fell as low as 380.07 before advancing around 2.2% to 403.31 during market action on Monday, testing its 10-week line.Meanwhile, Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley's high-profile auto analyst and a TSLA bull, increased his Tesla stock price target to 430 from 400, keeping an overweight rating on the shares, which remain a \"top pick\" for the firm. Jonas' price target represents 9% upside compared to Tesla stock's current market price.Jonas wrote that TSLA's recent share price \"appreciation has begun to discount the expanding 'surface area' between Tesla and physical AI including the company's natural advantages in terms of data collection, robotics, energy storage, AI/compute, manufacturing and supporting infrastructure.\"\"We still see scope for 2025 to be a year where the market's appreciation for Tesla's unique combination of skills can be further reflected in the multiple, offsetting the relatively well-known challenges to the FY25 EV market,\" Jonas wrote Monday.With Trump returning to the White House on Jan. 2o and fourth-quarter earnings coming on Jan. 29, the top question for investors is: when is it a good time to buy or sell Tesla stock.Tesla Q4 DeliveriesThe EV giant reported record fourth-quarter deliveries on Jan. 2, but the number came in below analyst expectations as the company failed to hit its target of annual vehicle unit growth compared to 2023.Tesla produced 459,445 vehicles in Q4 and delivered 495,570 units globally. Tesla also deployed 11 gigawatt-hours of energy storage products. For the full year, Tesla energy storage deployments totaled 31.4 gigawatt hours. Tesla delivered 1.789 million vehicles while producing 1.773 million units in 2024.Tesla had said it expected \"slight\" vehicle delivery growth in 2024 after the company saw vehicle deliveries rise 38% to 1.81 million in 2023. However, with unit sales lagging in the U.S. and Europe the had been  looking for solutions to drum up demand, offering various discounts and incentives to boost demand. China has been particularly strong in Q4 while the U.S. and Europe have been weak.Looking further out, Chief Executive Elon Musk proclaimed on the Q3 earnings call that vehicle sales could grow \"20%-30%\" in 2025.\"The miss reflects a relatively aged product and increased availability of lower priced competition globally ahead of the hyped introduction of the cheaper new model (Juniper) in early/mid-2025, which more than offset pre-buy and promotional forces,\" Morgan Stanley's Adam Jonas wrote following the report.Tesla reports Q4 earnings and revenue after the market closes on Jan. 29. Analysts predict Q4 EPS growing 7% to 76 cents with sales totaling $27.16 billion, up 8% compared to Q4 2023. Investors will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.The Delaware Court DecisionMeanwhile, Delaware Court of Chancery Judge Kathaleen McCormick recently stuck with her January decision and once more rejected Musk's $56 billion compensation package from 2018. The pay deal is now worth more than $100 billion.In a statement on X, Tesla said it will appeal the court's decision.In June, some 77% of shareholders voting approved giving Musk his 2018 $56 billion pay package, or 72% excluding Musk and his brother, Kimbal Musk. Tesla shareholders also voted this year in favor of reincorporating the company in Texas, moving it from Delaware.Before the June shareholder vote, Musk suggested he might shift Tesla resources to his privately held xAI if he didn't get the pay deal, as well as further power giving him a 25% voting stake.Musk currently has a nearly 13% stake in Tesla. Prior to selling TSLA shares to purchase Twitter, now X, for $44 billion in late 2022, Musk owned around 22% of Tesla.Judge Kathaleen McCormick wrote in in the opinion that, \"Even if a stockholder vote could have a ratifying effect, it could not do so here.\"FSD Version 13Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he's said similar \"this year\" or \"next year\" statements for about a decade.Jonas in a recent note remained cautious about Tesla's autonomous driving prospects in the short term.\"While a reassessment of self-driving policies at a national level could be inevitable in our view, we believe Tesla still faces significant hurdles to overcome in terms of technology, testing and permitting required for commercialization,\" Jonas wrote. \"However, we believe U.S. states and metro areas will continue to have the greatest say on final deployment.\"The EV giant first began rolling out the latest FSD upgrade to employees and limited outside customers.The EV giant hyped-up expectations by predicting its FSD version 13 will show a six-times improvement in terms of miles-per driver intervention. Currently, FSD v13 appears to be a limited version, but has the ability to unpark, reverse, and park. It is still listed as \"supervised\" FSD, according to Tesla.Musk on the third-quarter earnings call said he expects \"fully autonomous unsupervised FSD in California and Texas next year — that's with the Model 3 and Model Y.\" However, Musk admitted that he tends to be a \"little optimistic with time frames.\"Musk also conceded on the Q3 call that Tesla EVs with Hardware 3.0 might not be able to achieve true self-driving. He said if that's the case, Tesla will upgrade FSD customers with HW3.0 for free.IRA Tax CreditTSLA shares about 5.8% on Nov. 14 amid reports the president-elect's transition team plans to discontinue the Inflation Reduction Act, IRA, $7,500 EV consumer tax credit. The move was not a surprise to analysts and Musk has appeared to already endorse the idea of cutting the tax credit, echoing the belief that Tesla can thrive without it.However, if the IRA tax credits are stripped away, it could hit Tesla's auto business. The EV giant has already slashed prices repeatedly over the past year to drum up consumer interest amid waning demand.Tesla continues to ramp up incentives, especially in the U.S., as the company targets record deliveries in Q4. The EV giant recently announced a year-end discount on local Model Y sales.\"We expect Musk to have a big seat at the table as these EV discussions happen within the Trump transition team,\" Wedbush analyst Dan Ives wrote at the time. \"We believe any sell-off in Tesla from these reports is the wrong knee-jerk reaction and we would be buyers.\"Meanwhile, the dual-motor Tesla Cybertruck is now eligible for the $7,500 IRA tax credit, which should boost demand, at least to start 2025.The Musk-Trump AllianceAnalysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.Late on Nov. 12, Trump announced in a statement that Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to \"dismantle Government Bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures and restructure Federal Agencies.\"Musk, in the statement, said, \"This will send shockwaves through the system.\"The Department of Government Efficiency is tasked with providing \"advice and guidance from outside of Government and will partner with the White House and Office of Management & Budget.\"\"Musk's significant influence in the Trump White House is already having a major influence and ultimately the golden path for Tesla around Cybercabs and autonomous is now within reach with an emboldened Trump/Musk strategic alliance playing out in real time and very in line with our thesis,\" Ives wrote on Nov. 29.However, JPMorgan in early January estimated that, based on Trump's proposals to remove EV tax credits and subsidies, about 40% of Tesla's profits would be in danger after Trump takes office.\"Tesla does not appear to us on track to dominate the global auto industry amidst the electrification transition, which we view as only the starting point for present valuation,\" JPMorgan analyst Ryan Brinkman wrote.Tesla: Third-Quarter EarningsThe EV giant's third-quarter earnings unexpectedly rose 9% in the third quarter, snapping a four-quarter string of year-over-year declines. Revenue came in slightly below forecasts. Gross margins jumped, fueled by strong Tesla Energy margins and a record-low cost of goods sold.Regulatory credits were high at $739 million, though below Q2's $890 million. FSD revenue recognition also may have helped.Tesla's CFO said the EV maker may not be able to sustain Q3's margins in Q4. Plans for new vehicles, including more affordable models, remain on track for start of production in the first half of 2025, Tesla reported.On the Tesla earnings conference call, Musk pegs Q2 2025 as the internal target for FSD unsupervised to be safer than a human driver. Tesla said it's testing a ride-hailing services with employees, using a human safety driver.Musk added that the upcoming \"affordable\" EV will cost less than $30,000, \"with incentives.\"Tesla Stock: The Robotaxi EventMusk set sky-high expectations for the \"We Robot\" event. But after showing off a Cybercab and Robovan late on Oct. 10, the market seemed unimpressed with Musk as he once more claimed full autonomous driving will come \"next year\" but did not offer any details or updates of an \"affordable\" EV.The event was high on theatrics with Musk riding the two-seat Cybercab, with butterfly doors and no steering wheel, briefly to the stage to give his remarks. Dancing Optimus robots were paraded out with the Tesla humanoids serving attendees drinks. However, the consensus among analysts was that while the event was high on pomp and circumstance, it underdelivered on details.Musk did say he expects the Cybercab price tag will be below $30,000, with production starting \"before 2027.\" The Tesla chief also showed off the latest Optimus robot. He expects that the cost could be $25,000-$30,000 when produced at scale.\"That's it? Disappointing lack of detail,\" Jonas proclaimed in his investor note following the event. Wells Fargo analysts echoed that sentiment, writing that Tesla's robotaxi event was mostly \"razzle-dazzle\" with \"little substance.\"\"We were overall disappointed with the substance and detail of the presentation. As such, we anticipated TSLA to be under pressure following the event,\" Jonas added.Cathie Wood On The RobotaxiTesla stock sold off hard the day following the robotaxi event, sending a sell signal to investors. However, Cathie Wood and her Ark Invest ignored that and purchased nearly $3 million in TSLA shares.Wood, who has long been super-bullish on Tesla's autonomy push and robotaxi aims, attended Tesla's robotaxi event on Thursday. On June 12, Ark Invest updated its  Tesla stock price target to 2,600 by 2029, estimating that around 90% of Tesla's enterprise value and earnings will be attributed to the robotaxi business in 2029.Wood's Ark Invest tends to purchase Tesla stock and other positions amid sell-offs or when they break below key moving averages. Without a robotaxi network and business, Ark Invest says its TSLA price target would be around $350 per share, according to the report.\"We remain confident that the service will launch within the next five years,\" Ark Invest said.Tesla EVs In Regulators' SightsThe National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced in January it opened an investigation into Tesla, citing \"Actually Smart Summon sessions resulting in crashes during the session, including where the operator does not have enough time to react due to vehicle proximity or line of sight.\"Federal regulators wrote they have received one complaint alleging that an Actually Smart Summon session resulted in a crash and has reviewed at least three media reports of apparently similar crashes. All four incidents involve Tesla vehicles operating in Actually Smart Summon failing to detect posts or parked vehicles, resulting in a crash, according to NHTSA.Is Tesla Stock A Buy?The stock slipped a fraction to 394.74 on Friday, but did rebound from the 10-week line intraday. Tesla shares fell 3.8% for the week, dropping below 21-day line, even as the EV giant refreshed the popular Model Y in China.TSLA stock is on the IBD Leaderboard watchlist.Tesla stock on Dec. 11 cleared the company's longtime all-time high of 414.50, which it hit on Nov. 4, 2021. The stock had previously last touched 400 in January 2022, according to MarketSurge charts.Tesla topped the $1 trillion mark on Nov. 8 for the first time in two years. On Nov. 6, Tesla stock gapped up above an alternate handle buy point of 273.54 but was quickly extended. Tesla stock popped 3.2% to 369.49 on Dec. 5, clearing a recent range, which could have offered an add-on entry for existing TSLA holders.On Dec. 18, Tesla stock retreated 8.3% to 440.13, after hitting a record high of 488.54 intraday.Tesla stock ranks first in the 35-member IBD Auto Manufacturers industry group. The stock has a 91 Composite Rating out of a best-possible 99. Shares also have a 97 Relative Strength Rating and a 78 EPS Rating.Almost single-handedly, Elon Musk has turned the auto industry on its head. He has essentially forced it to get aboard the electric-vehicle train. Tesla has been a monster stock over much of its history, especially during its stratospheric run from mid-2019 to late 2021.TSLA shares consolidated after hitting a record 488.54 on Dec. 18, narrowing the distance above the 10-week line. Ideally, the EV giant would find support around its 10-week and 50-day moving averages or even forge a new base for a buying opportunity.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":133,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":390615803367568,"gmtCreate":1736383603108,"gmtModify":1736383607060,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Who care?? Seriously why are we monitoring wat people sell or buy? Does it affect your life in stocks!?","listText":"Who care?? Seriously why are we monitoring wat people sell or buy? Does it affect your life in stocks!?","text":"Who care?? Seriously why are we monitoring wat people sell or buy? Does it affect your life in stocks!?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/390615803367568","repostId":"1143953028","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1143953028","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Stay Updated with Major Announcements","home_visible":1,"media_name":"SEC Track","id":"1033292654","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f241068b466f5f9316243a75366834d5"},"pubTimestamp":1736380892,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1143953028?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-09 08:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson sold 63,370 Shares.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1143953028","media":"SEC Track","summary":"Tesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson conducted a series of sales involving a total of 63,370 shares of Tesla common stock on January 6, 2025. These sales were completed in multiple transactions at an average price range of 402.841 to 426.145 USD. Investors typically perceive such share reductions by executives as a signal of potential stock price pressure, necessitating close attention.","content":"Tesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson conducted a series of sales involving a total of 63,370 shares of Tesla common stock on January 6, 2025. These sales were completed in multiple transactions at an average price range of 402.841 to 426.145 USD. Investors typically perceive such share reductions by executives as a signal of potential stock price pressure, necessitating close attention.","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson sold 63,370 Shares.</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson sold 63,370 Shares.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1033292654\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/f241068b466f5f9316243a75366834d5);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">SEC Track </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-09 08:01</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\nTesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson conducted a series of sales involving a total of 63,370 shares of Tesla common stock on January 6, 2025. These sales were completed in multiple transactions at an average price range of 402.841 to 426.145 USD. Investors typically perceive such share reductions by executives as a signal of potential stock price pressure, necessitating close attention.\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1143953028","content_text":"Tesla's Director Kathleen Wilson-Thompson conducted a series of sales involving a total of 63,370 shares of Tesla common stock on January 6, 2025. These sales were completed in multiple transactions at an average price range of 402.841 to 426.145 USD. Investors typically perceive such share reductions by executives as a signal of potential stock price pressure, necessitating close attention.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":114,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":389697481679024,"gmtCreate":1736148697600,"gmtModify":1736149577369,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Why again such news? To kill tsla??","listText":"Why again such news? To kill tsla??","text":"Why again such news? To kill tsla??","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/389697481679024","repostId":"1140614861","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1140614861","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1736148359,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1140614861?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-06 15:25","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Could See 40% of Its Profits Evaporate When Trump Takes Office, JPMorgan Says","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1140614861","media":"Business Insider","summary":"Tesla's disappointing sales could be a wake-up call for investors.JPMorgan estimated that Trump's proposed cuts to EV subsidies could cost Tesla $3.2 billion.Musk's car company benefits from existing ","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla&#39;s disappointing sales could be a wake-up call for investors.</p></li><li><p>JPMorgan estimated that Trump&#39;s proposed cuts to EV subsidies could cost Tesla $3.2 billion.</p></li><li><p>Musk&#39;s car company benefits from existing emissions regulations.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9a2fc26e44957b144a7964cb3e8e6ffa\" title=\"Elon Musk threw his support behind Donald Trump&#39;s reelection campaign.\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"467\"/><span>Elon Musk threw his support behind Donald Trump&#39;s reelection campaign.</span></p><p>Tesla is poised for a tough year under the second Trump administration, despite CEO Elon Musk&#39;s friendship with the president-elect.</p><p>Following disappointing fourth-quarter sales results and a 6% dip in Tesla shares on Thursday, JPMorgan said more trouble could be ahead.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The bank&#39;s analysts estimated that, based on Trump&#39;s proposals to remove EV tax credits and subsidies that help make Teslas more affordable, about 40% of Tesla&#39;s profits would be in danger after Trump takes office.</p><p>Musk&#39;s car company is already seeing a slowdown in demand — on Thursday it reported a drop in annual vehicle sales for the first time.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">&#34;Tesla does not appear to us on track to dominate the global auto industry amidst the electrification transition, which we view as only the starting point for present valuation,&#34; the analyst Ryan Brinkman wrote in a note to clients on Friday morning.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla said it sold about 1.79 million cars in 2024, down slightly from a record 1.8 million sales in 2023 and its first year-over-year decrease since becoming a major player. The results rounded out a year when Tesla finally started to feel the pinch of a larger slowdown in the EV market as consumers gravitated toward more affordable and practical hybrids.</p><p>The results also slightly reversed a stunning postelection rally for Tesla&#39;s stock price, as investors were encouraged by Musk&#39;s proximity to the White House and his new extragovernmental commission&#39;s work to relax autonomous-vehicle regulations that restrict Tesla&#39;s big robotaxi plans.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Brinkman argued that Thursday&#39;s sales results should be investors&#39; wake-up call.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">&#34;The slowing of deliveries, even ahead of a likely subsidy removal, we think has the potential to refocus investors on the deterioration in deliveries, revenue, gross profit, EBIT, EPS, and FCF estimates across all periods,&#34; Brinkman wrote, reiterating a bearish $135 price target for the stock.</p><p>Musk has insisted that removing EV subsidies would benefit Tesla, but Brinkman disagreed. He estimated that Tesla has the most to lose from shifting regulations under Trump, costing it about $3.2 billion, as government subsidies account for a reliable minority of Tesla&#39;s revenue.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Tesla&#39;s regulatory-credits business has for years provided a reliable cash flow. Essentially, Tesla makes money on the EVs its competitors don&#39;t sell when these companies purchase Tesla&#39;s extra regulatory credits. 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The results rounded out a year when Tesla finally started to feel the pinch of a larger slowdown in the EV market as consumers gravitated toward more affordable and practical hybrids.The results also slightly reversed a stunning postelection rally for Tesla's stock price, as investors were encouraged by Musk's proximity to the White House and his new extragovernmental commission's work to relax autonomous-vehicle regulations that restrict Tesla's big robotaxi plans.Brinkman argued that Thursday's sales results should be investors' wake-up call.\"The slowing of deliveries, even ahead of a likely subsidy removal, we think has the potential to refocus investors on the deterioration in deliveries, revenue, gross profit, EBIT, EPS, and FCF estimates across all periods,\" Brinkman wrote, reiterating a bearish $135 price target for the stock.Musk has insisted that removing EV subsidies would benefit Tesla, but Brinkman disagreed. He estimated that Tesla has the most to lose from shifting regulations under Trump, costing it about $3.2 billion, as government subsidies account for a reliable minority of Tesla's revenue.Tesla's regulatory-credits business has for years provided a reliable cash flow. Essentially, Tesla makes money on the EVs its competitors don't sell when these companies purchase Tesla's extra regulatory credits. Additionally, Tesla's most affordable vehicle, the Model 3, benefits from the $7,500 tax credit applied to some new EV purchases under the Inflation Reduction Act.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":273,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":388636824051800,"gmtCreate":1735907832823,"gmtModify":1735907836583,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Seriously?? Why tis update..does it matter to those who are in for long or even shorts?&nbsp;","listText":"Seriously?? Why tis update..does it matter to those who are in for long or even shorts?&nbsp;","text":"Seriously?? 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Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> stock rebounded 2% in Friday morning trading after dropping 6% on Thursday.</p><p>Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e1eb517ded46ad9e7298cd80eceeb07a\" tg-width=\"817\" tg-height=\"830\"/></p><p></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Rebounded 2% in Morning Trading After Dropping 6% on Thursday</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Annual Deliveries Dropped for First Time","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2500902898","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicle","content":"<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/eca791aacc248be7241d8584f8fa6a7f\" alt=\"In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicles around the globe, down about 2% from the same span in 2023.\" title=\"In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicles around the globe, down about 2% from the same span in 2023.\" tg-width=\"953\" tg-height=\"630\"/><span>In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicles around the globe, down about 2% from the same span in 2023.</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Shares were weak but investors soon will look past the deliveries figure. They are focused on a new model and self-driving cars in the new year.</p><p>Tesla on Thursday reported fourth-quarter vehicle deliveries of 495,570, up from the 484,507 delivered in the fourth quarter of 2023. Wall Street was looking for about 507,000 vehicles.</p><p>Tesla shares dropped 6.1%, closing at $379.28 apiece, while the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average fell about 0.2% and 0.4%, respectively.</p><p>Shares finished lower for a fifth consecutive day, dropping about 18% over the span, according to Dow Jones Market Data. It’s the worst five-day stretch for the stock since the five days ended Dec. 28, 2022, when it fell 18.2%.</p><p>As of Thursday’s close, shares are down about 21% from their all-time closing high of $479.86 on Dec. 17, 2024.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Hitting the consensus probably wasn’t required to keep shares stable. Future Fund Active ETF (FFND) co-founder and Tesla shareholderGary Blacktold<em>Barron’s</em>that anything above 500,000 should be good enough. Wedbush analystDan Ivesagreed, saying the “whisper number,” the figure investors really expect, was about 500,000 vehicles.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A whisper number can be higher or lower than published estimates for any number of reasons, including that not all analysts update their estimates with the same frequency.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla’s results fell short of the whisper. There was reason for optimism heading into the report. The company predicted growth in sales volume in its third-quarter earnings report in October. That implied about 515,000 deliveries for the fourth quarter.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla missed growth by about 20,000 units for the full year. Tesla delivered 1,789,226 cars, down about 1% from the 1,808,581 delivered in 2023. It’s the first year-over-year sales decline for the company since the introduction of the Model S Sedan, Tesla’s first true production vehicle, in 2012. The S, Tesla’s original roadster, was built on the base of a Lotus vehicle.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The fourth quarter was still a record, up about 2% from the 484,507 vehicles in the fourth quarter of 2023.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Despite essentially no growth in EVs sales, Tesla stock finished 2024 up more than 60%. Almost all of that gain came following the Nov. 5 presidential election.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Investors certainly care about quarterly deliveries, but whether Tesla would grow deliveries in 2024 hasn’t been driving the stock. These days, investors are far more focused on two developments expected for 2025 and how CEO Elon Musk’s close relationship with President-elect Donald Trump will help the electric vehicle maker.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">For starters, Tesla is expected to start selling a lower-priced EV in early 2025. Musk believes the new model will help Tesla increase sales volume by 20% to 30% this coming year.</p><p>Wall Street projects about 2.1 million units sold for 2025, up a little less than 20% compared with 2024.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla is also planning to launch an artificial intelligence-trained self-driving robotaxi service in late 2025. The Trump administration could help Tesla meet that deadline by issuing favorable federal regulations on autonomous driving.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“Delivery results are likely to be a modest negative today, but Bulls likely continue to defend the AI story,” wrote Guggenheim analyst Ronald Jewsikow in a Thursday report. “Delivery results underscore, in our opinion, most if not all of 2025 vehicle growth will come from new affordable models which remain challenging to model based on limited details on pricing, features or timing.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Jewsikow rates shares Sell and has a $175 price target for the stock. Wedbush’s Ives rates shares Buy and has a $515 price target for the stock.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“Taking a step back, over the last decade we have never viewed Tesla simply as a car company…instead we have always viewed Musk and Tesla as a leading disruptive technology global player and the first part of this grand strategic vision has taken shape over the past 5 years,” wrote Ives in a Thursday report. “The next step in this broader Tesla strategic vision begins is the autonomous and AI era which will be accelerated under a Trump White House.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Investors will continue to focus on the new model and Tesla’s robotaxi service. Those two things will go a long way toward determining if Tesla stock can make it three strong years in a row.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla shares gained 102% in 2023 after falling 65% in 2022. Since Tesla went public in June 2010, selling shares at a split-adjusted price of $1.13, the stock has suffered annual declines only twice.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Slides. 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Annual Deliveries Dropped for First Time\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-03 07:15</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/eca791aacc248be7241d8584f8fa6a7f\" alt=\"In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicles around the globe, down about 2% from the same span in 2023.\" title=\"In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicles around the globe, down about 2% from the same span in 2023.\" tg-width=\"953\" tg-height=\"630\"/><span>In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicles around the globe, down about 2% from the same span in 2023.</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Shares were weak but investors soon will look past the deliveries figure. They are focused on a new model and self-driving cars in the new year.</p><p>Tesla on Thursday reported fourth-quarter vehicle deliveries of 495,570, up from the 484,507 delivered in the fourth quarter of 2023. Wall Street was looking for about 507,000 vehicles.</p><p>Tesla shares dropped 6.1%, closing at $379.28 apiece, while the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average fell about 0.2% and 0.4%, respectively.</p><p>Shares finished lower for a fifth consecutive day, dropping about 18% over the span, according to Dow Jones Market Data. It’s the worst five-day stretch for the stock since the five days ended Dec. 28, 2022, when it fell 18.2%.</p><p>As of Thursday’s close, shares are down about 21% from their all-time closing high of $479.86 on Dec. 17, 2024.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Hitting the consensus probably wasn’t required to keep shares stable. Future Fund Active ETF (FFND) co-founder and Tesla shareholderGary Blacktold<em>Barron’s</em>that anything above 500,000 should be good enough. Wedbush analystDan Ivesagreed, saying the “whisper number,” the figure investors really expect, was about 500,000 vehicles.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A whisper number can be higher or lower than published estimates for any number of reasons, including that not all analysts update their estimates with the same frequency.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla’s results fell short of the whisper. There was reason for optimism heading into the report. The company predicted growth in sales volume in its third-quarter earnings report in October. That implied about 515,000 deliveries for the fourth quarter.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla missed growth by about 20,000 units for the full year. Tesla delivered 1,789,226 cars, down about 1% from the 1,808,581 delivered in 2023. It’s the first year-over-year sales decline for the company since the introduction of the Model S Sedan, Tesla’s first true production vehicle, in 2012. The S, Tesla’s original roadster, was built on the base of a Lotus vehicle.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The fourth quarter was still a record, up about 2% from the 484,507 vehicles in the fourth quarter of 2023.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Despite essentially no growth in EVs sales, Tesla stock finished 2024 up more than 60%. Almost all of that gain came following the Nov. 5 presidential election.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Investors certainly care about quarterly deliveries, but whether Tesla would grow deliveries in 2024 hasn’t been driving the stock. These days, investors are far more focused on two developments expected for 2025 and how CEO Elon Musk’s close relationship with President-elect Donald Trump will help the electric vehicle maker.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">For starters, Tesla is expected to start selling a lower-priced EV in early 2025. Musk believes the new model will help Tesla increase sales volume by 20% to 30% this coming year.</p><p>Wall Street projects about 2.1 million units sold for 2025, up a little less than 20% compared with 2024.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla is also planning to launch an artificial intelligence-trained self-driving robotaxi service in late 2025. The Trump administration could help Tesla meet that deadline by issuing favorable federal regulations on autonomous driving.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“Delivery results are likely to be a modest negative today, but Bulls likely continue to defend the AI story,” wrote Guggenheim analyst Ronald Jewsikow in a Thursday report. “Delivery results underscore, in our opinion, most if not all of 2025 vehicle growth will come from new affordable models which remain challenging to model based on limited details on pricing, features or timing.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Jewsikow rates shares Sell and has a $175 price target for the stock. Wedbush’s Ives rates shares Buy and has a $515 price target for the stock.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“Taking a step back, over the last decade we have never viewed Tesla simply as a car company…instead we have always viewed Musk and Tesla as a leading disruptive technology global player and the first part of this grand strategic vision has taken shape over the past 5 years,” wrote Ives in a Thursday report. “The next step in this broader Tesla strategic vision begins is the autonomous and AI era which will be accelerated under a Trump White House.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Investors will continue to focus on the new model and Tesla’s robotaxi service. Those two things will go a long way toward determining if Tesla stock can make it three strong years in a row.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla shares gained 102% in 2023 after falling 65% in 2022. Since Tesla went public in June 2010, selling shares at a split-adjusted price of $1.13, the stock has suffered annual declines only twice.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","LU0345770308.USD":"NINETY ONE GSF GLOBAL STRATEGIC EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","SG9999015986.USD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1145028129.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AQ\" (USD) INC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU0345769128.USD":"NINETY ONE GSF GLOBAL EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU0345770993.USD":"NINETY ONE GSF GLOBAL STRATEGIC EQUITY \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4598":"佩洛西持仓","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","BK4516":"特朗普概念","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","SG9999015952.SGD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (SGD) ACC","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2250418816.HKD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (HKD) ACC","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU2213496289.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4555":"新能源车","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","LU0964807845.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME & GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2500902898","content_text":"Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.In the first three quarters of 2024, Tesla delivered about 1.29 million vehicles around the globe, down about 2% from the same span in 2023.Shares were weak but investors soon will look past the deliveries figure. They are focused on a new model and self-driving cars in the new year.Tesla on Thursday reported fourth-quarter vehicle deliveries of 495,570, up from the 484,507 delivered in the fourth quarter of 2023. Wall Street was looking for about 507,000 vehicles.Tesla shares dropped 6.1%, closing at $379.28 apiece, while the S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average fell about 0.2% and 0.4%, respectively.Shares finished lower for a fifth consecutive day, dropping about 18% over the span, according to Dow Jones Market Data. It’s the worst five-day stretch for the stock since the five days ended Dec. 28, 2022, when it fell 18.2%.As of Thursday’s close, shares are down about 21% from their all-time closing high of $479.86 on Dec. 17, 2024.Hitting the consensus probably wasn’t required to keep shares stable. Future Fund Active ETF (FFND) co-founder and Tesla shareholderGary BlacktoldBarron’sthat anything above 500,000 should be good enough. Wedbush analystDan Ivesagreed, saying the “whisper number,” the figure investors really expect, was about 500,000 vehicles.A whisper number can be higher or lower than published estimates for any number of reasons, including that not all analysts update their estimates with the same frequency.Tesla’s results fell short of the whisper. There was reason for optimism heading into the report. The company predicted growth in sales volume in its third-quarter earnings report in October. That implied about 515,000 deliveries for the fourth quarter.Tesla missed growth by about 20,000 units for the full year. Tesla delivered 1,789,226 cars, down about 1% from the 1,808,581 delivered in 2023. It’s the first year-over-year sales decline for the company since the introduction of the Model S Sedan, Tesla’s first true production vehicle, in 2012. The S, Tesla’s original roadster, was built on the base of a Lotus vehicle.The fourth quarter was still a record, up about 2% from the 484,507 vehicles in the fourth quarter of 2023.Despite essentially no growth in EVs sales, Tesla stock finished 2024 up more than 60%. Almost all of that gain came following the Nov. 5 presidential election.Investors certainly care about quarterly deliveries, but whether Tesla would grow deliveries in 2024 hasn’t been driving the stock. These days, investors are far more focused on two developments expected for 2025 and how CEO Elon Musk’s close relationship with President-elect Donald Trump will help the electric vehicle maker.For starters, Tesla is expected to start selling a lower-priced EV in early 2025. Musk believes the new model will help Tesla increase sales volume by 20% to 30% this coming year.Wall Street projects about 2.1 million units sold for 2025, up a little less than 20% compared with 2024.Tesla is also planning to launch an artificial intelligence-trained self-driving robotaxi service in late 2025. The Trump administration could help Tesla meet that deadline by issuing favorable federal regulations on autonomous driving.“Delivery results are likely to be a modest negative today, but Bulls likely continue to defend the AI story,” wrote Guggenheim analyst Ronald Jewsikow in a Thursday report. “Delivery results underscore, in our opinion, most if not all of 2025 vehicle growth will come from new affordable models which remain challenging to model based on limited details on pricing, features or timing.”Jewsikow rates shares Sell and has a $175 price target for the stock. Wedbush’s Ives rates shares Buy and has a $515 price target for the stock.“Taking a step back, over the last decade we have never viewed Tesla simply as a car company…instead we have always viewed Musk and Tesla as a leading disruptive technology global player and the first part of this grand strategic vision has taken shape over the past 5 years,” wrote Ives in a Thursday report. “The next step in this broader Tesla strategic vision begins is the autonomous and AI era which will be accelerated under a Trump White House.”Investors will continue to focus on the new model and Tesla’s robotaxi service. Those two things will go a long way toward determining if Tesla stock can make it three strong years in a row.Tesla shares gained 102% in 2023 after falling 65% in 2022. Since Tesla went public in June 2010, selling shares at a split-adjusted price of $1.13, the stock has suffered annual declines only twice.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":176,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":382372166893968,"gmtCreate":1734396719824,"gmtModify":1734396723883,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Now suddenly all buy tsla? 6 months ago so many were against&nbsp;","listText":"Now suddenly all buy tsla? 6 months ago so many were against&nbsp;","text":"Now suddenly all buy tsla? 6 months ago so many were against","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/382372166893968","repostId":"1146188303","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1146188303","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1734392528,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1146188303?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-12-17 07:42","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Tesla's Stock Can Keep Soaring (Upgrade)","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1146188303","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryTesla's stock has surged post-2024 election, gaining $550 billion in market value, driven by Elon Musk's close ties with Trump and potential deregulation benefits.Favorable regulatory changes a","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_3225006617\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla&#39;s stock has surged post-2024 election, gaining $550 billion in market value, driven by Elon Musk&#39;s close ties with Trump and potential deregulation benefits.</p></li><li><p>Favorable regulatory changes and strong growth in China could significantly boost Tesla&#39;s autonomous vehicle ambitions and overall market performance in 2025.</p></li><li><p>Despite high valuation, TSLA&#39;s forecasted 20–30% delivery growth and robust gross margins suggest continued stock momentum, supported by a pro-business Trump administration.</p></li><li><p>Risks include potential profit-taking, competition in autonomous driving, and the impact of any regulatory setbacks, but overall, Tesla&#39;s outlook remains positive.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e22bbee594e92d7d6b0451afb01ee671\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>The stock of electric-vehicle company <strong>Tesla Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA)</strong> has skyrocketed following Donald Trump&#39;s win of the presidential election with Tesla gaining approximately $550 billion in market valuation since November 5, 2024.</p><p>Tesla now has a market value of $1.4 Trillion, and the electric-vehicle company is likely poised to profit from Elon Musk&#39;s close relationship to Trump and a deregulation strategy that could unleash Tesla&#39;s potential.</p><p>Though Tesla has soared lately, I think investors don&#39;t have any good reason to sell the stock and, in my view, Tesla investors could be in for a very nice ride during a second Trump Administration.</p><h2 id=\"id_4177588961\">My Last Rating Classification</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock was a &#39;Hold&#39; for me in my last piece on the electric-vehicle company, but Donald Trump&#39;s second-term could be a game-changer for the EV manufacturer.</p><p>A more favorable regulatory environment in terms of autonomous vehicles (meaning the reduction of regulations) could benefit Tesla&#39;s AV aspirations while federal agencies may also take it easier on the company in terms of investigations.</p><p>Moreover, a potential scaling back of clean energy regulations (such as the abolishment of EV-related tax credits) may actually help Tesla.</p><p>Momentum is also building in China, with Tesla seeing strong insurance registrations in the month of November.</p><h2 id=\"id_3157123849\">Tesla Is The Ultimate Election Winner</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s stock crushed its previous high and is presently selling for $427.77 which gives the electric-vehicle company a $1.4 trillion market value. Clearly Tesla has been a big winner, alongside Donald Trump, in last month&#39;s election and Elon Musk&#39;s proximity to Trump could further propel Tesla&#39;s market valuation higher in the months and even years ahead.</p><p>First of all, Tesla is making a strong push for its self-driving vehicles, the introduction of which the company postponed multiple times, to the chagrin of investors.</p><p>A Trump Administration is likely to take a very anti-regulation stance which could particularly help Tesla which is contending with Waymo for the crown in the self-driving car market. <strong>General Motors Company (GM)</strong>, for example, just threw in the towel and shelved its Robotaxi project names Cruise.</p><p>Tesla could obviously profit, for instance, if federal regulation surrounding autonomous vehicles were to be reduced which in turn could accelerate the company&#39;s time-line for its AVs and relief the cost burden on Tesla. A federal framework for EVs could also provide regulatory clarity for large-scale AV manufacturers like Tesla and create a clear path for the company&#39;s autonomous vehicle introduction in 2026.</p><p>Tesla is currently being investigated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for its full self-driving system, which might be linked to some accidents in the recent past.</p><p>A close working relationship between Elon Musk and Trump as well as a general deregulation drive of the new Administration could unshackle Tesla and remove any unnecessary regulatory costs.</p><p>Moreover, the abolishment of EV tax credits, which has been discussed by Republicans, would likely help Tesla as the only major EV-focused automaker. Republicans, which are going to take over the government next year, have said that they will reduce incentives to buy electric-vehicles which is likely going to benefit the biggest EV maker in the U.S.</p><p>Tesla is the only manufacturer producing EVs at real scale, and no U.S. company has as profitable EV product lineup as Tesla. Thus, the abolishment of EV tax credits might hit legacy automakers much harder than Tesla as they don&#39;t have Tesla&#39;s economies of scale and, relatively speaking, still very small production volumes.</p><h2 id=\"id_1577503285\">Tesla&#39;s Insurance Registrations In China Are Surging, Indicating Accelerating Delivery Momentum</h2><p>Tesla&#39;s management forecast 20-30% delivery growth in 2025 and China is going to be an important market that could contribute a good chunk of growth for the electric-vehicle company.</p><p>In the third quarter, Tesla produced 469,796 electric vehicles, mostly Model 3/Y, and delivered 462,890 vehicles to customers. Tesla&#39;s total delivery volume thus increased 6.4% YoY and more momentum may await investors in the fourth quarter.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0868fc2845bf3eefe9f898183dd2d68a\" alt=\"Operational Summary\" title=\"Operational Summary\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"173\"/><span>Operational Summary</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Operational Summary (Tesla Inc.)</strong></p><p></p><p>The reason for this is that Tesla insurance registrations in China are surging: in the last week, Tesla had 21,900 insurance registrations, its second-highest number in 2024, and the trend is positive for all major electric-vehicle manufacturers, according to CnEVData which compiles Chinese insurance data.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8c8f87ddb7815d3fed940cdb0ec7f2dd\" alt=\"Weekly Insurance Registrations In China\" title=\"Weekly Insurance Registrations In China\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"333\"/><span>Weekly Insurance Registrations In China</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Weekly Insurance Registrations In China (CnEVData)</strong></p><p></p><p>China is by far the biggest market for EV producers and Tesla has had considerable success in this particular market, despite fierce competition from companies like BYD.</p><p>As a matter of fact, Tesla has seen exceptional market share and delivery growth in the last couple of years, despite the emergence of an entirely new slate of EV startup companies.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2713fcfe2704e3683fe8596beb5178b8\" alt=\"Global BEV Market Share\" title=\"Global BEV Market Share\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"299\"/><span>Global BEV Market Share</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Global BEV Market Share (Tesla Inc.)</strong></p><p></p><p>In the month of November, according to data from the China Passenger Car Association, Tesla sold 78,856 vehicles in China in November, up 12% YoY. I think it is entirely possibly for the automaker to see a substantial sales acceleration in 2025 if the present momentum in sales, deliveries and car registrations spills over into the new year which I consider likely when taking into account that Beijing has launched substantial fiscal and monetary stimulus plans in order to promote economic growth.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3c6df6836ff5906776c21aa7fc5824dd\" alt=\"Monthly Sales In China\" title=\"Monthly Sales In China\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\"/><span>Monthly Sales In China</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Monthly Sales In China (CPCA)</strong></p><p></p><p>Tesla is still leading U.S. auto manufacturers in terms of gross margins, which is another area for which I expect a positive trend in 2025, particularly with sales ramping up and positive delivery trends in China. In the third quarter, Tesla worked itself to a gross margin of 19.8%, reflecting a margin increase of almost 2 percentage points QoQ.</p><p>If Tesla sees stronger delivery growth in 2025, as the company has forecasted, and maintains gross margins of 20% or higher, I think that Tesla&#39;s stock has the fundamental backing to keep soaring in 2025 as well.</p><h2 id=\"id_2410465498\">Tesla Is Expensive, May Have A Lot More Upside Anyhow</h2><p>Tesla is growing its sales and has forecast that it could grow its deliveries between 20-30% next year, which would be a substantial accomplishment for a company with nearly $100 billion in anticipated sales. Tesla has struggled, particularly in 2023, due to intensifying competition in China, and growing price pressure in the electric-vehicle market.</p><p>With Tesla&#39;s stock reaching as high as $427.77 on Wednesday, the stock clearly is no bargain. Presently, based on a consensus sales estimates of $100 billion in 2024, the stock is selling at a whopping 14x sales.</p><p>Tesla is profitable and set for a boost of growth in 2024, however, which are two reasons I would cite in addition to the electric-vehicle company potentially benefiting from a more favorable regulatory landscape under a Trump Administration.</p><p>Rivian Automotive (RIVN), which anticipates to deliver about 50K electric-vehicles this year and which lowered its production guidance recently, is selling at a leading sales multiple of 3.1X and is thus considerably more affordable.</p><p>Nonetheless, as a market leader with substantial volume and growth potential, favorable regulatory tailwinds and momentum in China, I think Tesla&#39;s valuation has room to expand.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/baf22f3e64bff7847d40e0f576260d36\" alt=\"Revenue Estimate\" title=\"Revenue Estimate\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"216\"/><span>Revenue Estimate</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Revenue Estimate (Yahoo Finance)</strong></p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_3765705826\">Why Tesla Remains A Risky Investment</h2><p>Soaring stock prices attract speculators and risk-takers, which means that one of the biggest headwinds for Tesla actually could be profit-taking itself.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s stock has skyrocketed 69% since November 5, 2024, so a lot of investors are sitting on a good amount of unrealized gains. Any correction could trigger a substantial consolidation for Tesla and expose investors to the risk of a contracting multiple.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s autonomous vehicle project, known as FSD, has repeatedly disappointed and fell short of expectations, meaning it could potentially take years before Tesla actually debuts a market-viable autonomous driving solution.</p><p>Should Tesla fall back behind Waymo in terms of self-driving tech development, the EV company may lose the race to capture a big portion of the autonomous market.</p><h2 id=\"id_3402636617\">My Conclusion</h2><p>Tesla and Elon Musk have been the real winners of the 2024 presidential election, with Tesla adding more than half a trillion in market value.</p><p>Tesla&#39;s stock reached an all-time high on Wednesday, and the momentum is presently clearly in favor of the electric-vehicle company.</p><p>The EV manufacturer is also poised to benefit from a closer relationship between its Chief Executive Officer and the incoming U.S. president, which could help lower pressure coming from federal agencies that are investigating Tesla.</p><p>Deregulation drives and strong growth momentum in China are two other reasons to remain hopeful that Tesla&#39;s rally has fundamental support in 2025.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1642056764450","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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(NASDAQ:TSLA) has skyrocketed following Donald Trump's win of the presidential election with Tesla gaining approximately $550 billion in market valuation since November 5, 2024.Tesla now has a market value of $1.4 Trillion, and the electric-vehicle company is likely poised to profit from Elon Musk's close relationship to Trump and a deregulation strategy that could unleash Tesla's potential.Though Tesla has soared lately, I think investors don't have any good reason to sell the stock and, in my view, Tesla investors could be in for a very nice ride during a second Trump Administration.My Last Rating ClassificationTesla's stock was a 'Hold' for me in my last piece on the electric-vehicle company, but Donald Trump's second-term could be a game-changer for the EV manufacturer.A more favorable regulatory environment in terms of autonomous vehicles (meaning the reduction of regulations) could benefit Tesla's AV aspirations while federal agencies may also take it easier on the company in terms of investigations.Moreover, a potential scaling back of clean energy regulations (such as the abolishment of EV-related tax credits) may actually help Tesla.Momentum is also building in China, with Tesla seeing strong insurance registrations in the month of November.Tesla Is The Ultimate Election WinnerTesla's stock crushed its previous high and is presently selling for $427.77 which gives the electric-vehicle company a $1.4 trillion market value. Clearly Tesla has been a big winner, alongside Donald Trump, in last month's election and Elon Musk's proximity to Trump could further propel Tesla's market valuation higher in the months and even years ahead.First of all, Tesla is making a strong push for its self-driving vehicles, the introduction of which the company postponed multiple times, to the chagrin of investors.A Trump Administration is likely to take a very anti-regulation stance which could particularly help Tesla which is contending with Waymo for the crown in the self-driving car market. General Motors Company (GM), for example, just threw in the towel and shelved its Robotaxi project names Cruise.Tesla could obviously profit, for instance, if federal regulation surrounding autonomous vehicles were to be reduced which in turn could accelerate the company's time-line for its AVs and relief the cost burden on Tesla. A federal framework for EVs could also provide regulatory clarity for large-scale AV manufacturers like Tesla and create a clear path for the company's autonomous vehicle introduction in 2026.Tesla is currently being investigated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for its full self-driving system, which might be linked to some accidents in the recent past.A close working relationship between Elon Musk and Trump as well as a general deregulation drive of the new Administration could unshackle Tesla and remove any unnecessary regulatory costs.Moreover, the abolishment of EV tax credits, which has been discussed by Republicans, would likely help Tesla as the only major EV-focused automaker. Republicans, which are going to take over the government next year, have said that they will reduce incentives to buy electric-vehicles which is likely going to benefit the biggest EV maker in the U.S.Tesla is the only manufacturer producing EVs at real scale, and no U.S. company has as profitable EV product lineup as Tesla. Thus, the abolishment of EV tax credits might hit legacy automakers much harder than Tesla as they don't have Tesla's economies of scale and, relatively speaking, still very small production volumes.Tesla's Insurance Registrations In China Are Surging, Indicating Accelerating Delivery MomentumTesla's management forecast 20-30% delivery growth in 2025 and China is going to be an important market that could contribute a good chunk of growth for the electric-vehicle company.In the third quarter, Tesla produced 469,796 electric vehicles, mostly Model 3/Y, and delivered 462,890 vehicles to customers. Tesla's total delivery volume thus increased 6.4% YoY and more momentum may await investors in the fourth quarter.Operational SummaryOperational Summary (Tesla Inc.)The reason for this is that Tesla insurance registrations in China are surging: in the last week, Tesla had 21,900 insurance registrations, its second-highest number in 2024, and the trend is positive for all major electric-vehicle manufacturers, according to CnEVData which compiles Chinese insurance data.Weekly Insurance Registrations In ChinaWeekly Insurance Registrations In China (CnEVData)China is by far the biggest market for EV producers and Tesla has had considerable success in this particular market, despite fierce competition from companies like BYD.As a matter of fact, Tesla has seen exceptional market share and delivery growth in the last couple of years, despite the emergence of an entirely new slate of EV startup companies.Global BEV Market ShareGlobal BEV Market Share (Tesla Inc.)In the month of November, according to data from the China Passenger Car Association, Tesla sold 78,856 vehicles in China in November, up 12% YoY. I think it is entirely possibly for the automaker to see a substantial sales acceleration in 2025 if the present momentum in sales, deliveries and car registrations spills over into the new year which I consider likely when taking into account that Beijing has launched substantial fiscal and monetary stimulus plans in order to promote economic growth.Monthly Sales In ChinaMonthly Sales In China (CPCA)Tesla is still leading U.S. auto manufacturers in terms of gross margins, which is another area for which I expect a positive trend in 2025, particularly with sales ramping up and positive delivery trends in China. In the third quarter, Tesla worked itself to a gross margin of 19.8%, reflecting a margin increase of almost 2 percentage points QoQ.If Tesla sees stronger delivery growth in 2025, as the company has forecasted, and maintains gross margins of 20% or higher, I think that Tesla's stock has the fundamental backing to keep soaring in 2025 as well.Tesla Is Expensive, May Have A Lot More Upside AnyhowTesla is growing its sales and has forecast that it could grow its deliveries between 20-30% next year, which would be a substantial accomplishment for a company with nearly $100 billion in anticipated sales. Tesla has struggled, particularly in 2023, due to intensifying competition in China, and growing price pressure in the electric-vehicle market.With Tesla's stock reaching as high as $427.77 on Wednesday, the stock clearly is no bargain. Presently, based on a consensus sales estimates of $100 billion in 2024, the stock is selling at a whopping 14x sales.Tesla is profitable and set for a boost of growth in 2024, however, which are two reasons I would cite in addition to the electric-vehicle company potentially benefiting from a more favorable regulatory landscape under a Trump Administration.Rivian Automotive (RIVN), which anticipates to deliver about 50K electric-vehicles this year and which lowered its production guidance recently, is selling at a leading sales multiple of 3.1X and is thus considerably more affordable.Nonetheless, as a market leader with substantial volume and growth potential, favorable regulatory tailwinds and momentum in China, I think Tesla's valuation has room to expand.Revenue EstimateRevenue Estimate (Yahoo Finance)Why Tesla Remains A Risky InvestmentSoaring stock prices attract speculators and risk-takers, which means that one of the biggest headwinds for Tesla actually could be profit-taking itself.Tesla's stock has skyrocketed 69% since November 5, 2024, so a lot of investors are sitting on a good amount of unrealized gains. Any correction could trigger a substantial consolidation for Tesla and expose investors to the risk of a contracting multiple.Tesla's autonomous vehicle project, known as FSD, has repeatedly disappointed and fell short of expectations, meaning it could potentially take years before Tesla actually debuts a market-viable autonomous driving solution.Should Tesla fall back behind Waymo in terms of self-driving tech development, the EV company may lose the race to capture a big portion of the autonomous market.My ConclusionTesla and Elon Musk have been the real winners of the 2024 presidential election, with Tesla adding more than half a trillion in market value.Tesla's stock reached an all-time high on Wednesday, and the momentum is presently clearly in favor of the electric-vehicle company.The EV manufacturer is also poised to benefit from a closer relationship between its Chief Executive Officer and the incoming U.S. president, which could help lower pressure coming from federal agencies that are investigating Tesla.Deregulation drives and strong growth momentum in China are two other reasons to remain hopeful that Tesla's rally has fundamental support in 2025.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":208,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":373070251069744,"gmtCreate":1732092048171,"gmtModify":1732092051212,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Stop making such predictions. The more u do..more will buy into it","listText":"Stop making such predictions. The more u do..more will buy into it","text":"Stop making such predictions. The more u do..more will buy into it","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/373070251069744","repostId":"1101873677","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1101873677","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1732089900,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1101873677?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-20 16:05","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Palantir Stock in Trouble? Jefferies Predicts a 60% Crash","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1101873677","media":"Finbold","summary":"Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big dat","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big data analytics company Palantir (NYSE: PLTR) could secure better yearly returns.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/da94adcc1677cb447048d558601090c1\" alt=\"Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crash\" title=\"Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crash\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"683\"/><span>Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crash</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">After all, it is currently in the lead — whereas NVDA is up 196.86% since the beginning of the year, PLTR has secured gains of 266.80% in the same timeframe. Palantir stock closed higher 2.81% at $62.98 apiece on Tuesday.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2af4b774d36b96e0e4b2199ff78efc39\" tg-width=\"873\" tg-height=\"622\"/></p><p>Palantir has long been a favorite of retail investors — in contrast, institutional investors spent most of the last couple of years openly doubting the stock. After a standout Q3 2024 earnings call on November 4, that perspective has shifted — hedge funds are now purchasing large quantities of PLTR shares, while Wall Street equity analysts are setting increasingly higher price targets.</p><p>It would not be a stretch to say that an atmosphere of greed is present — and with the hype surrounding both the wider AI industry and Palantir, it’s more important than ever to take note of and heed dissenting voices. Valuation has long been one of the primary concerns surrounding the Alex Karp-led business — and the recent surge in price has done nothing to dispel those worries.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In stark contrast with most of his colleagues, one Jefferies researcher has set a price target that would correspond with a 60% decrease in PLTR share price — let’s take a closer look at his rationale.</p><h2 id=\"h-jefferies-analyst-brent-thill-sees-significant-downside-for-pltr-stock\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Jefferies analyst Brent Thill sees significant downside for PLTR stock</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On November 7, Jefferies software and internet researcher Brent Thill downgraded Palantir stock to ‘Underperform’ from his prior ‘Hold’ rating. His previous price target of $28 remains unchanged.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Shares of the AI software infrastructure company are currently trading at a 43 times multiple of its calendar 2025 revenue. As noted by Thill, the last time such conditions were seen in the tech sector was the Covid bubble. However, seeing as how macro conditions have normalized, this is no longer a common sight — Palantir’s multiple is currently over four times as large as its next comparable peer.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The expert added that although Palantir’s fundamentals ‘are alive,’ the company would have to accelerate growth to 40% for four years straight and trade at 12x estimated 2028 revenue ‘just for the stock to hold its price, which seems unlikely.’</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">At present, Thill deems even current prices unsustainable — and his arguments seem to hold water. In addition, the researcher pointed out that insider selling activity has picked up — most notably, CEO Alex Karp sold $398 million worth of PLTR stock on November 13.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">That’s not to say that he is completely bearish when it comes to the business — while he urged caution, the Jefferies analyst added that investors should wait for a better entry point — suggesting that, though he does believe in the company’s continued success, he foresees a steep correction in the short and medium term.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1686302271270","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Palantir Stock in Trouble? 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Jefferies Predicts a 60% Crash\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-20 16:05 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finbold.com/is-palantir-stock-in-trouble-jefferies-predicts-a-60-crash/><strong>Finbold</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finbold.com/is-palantir-stock-in-trouble-jefferies-predicts-a-60-crash/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://finbold.com/is-palantir-stock-in-trouble-jefferies-predicts-a-60-crash/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1101873677","content_text":"Thus far, 2024 has been the year of AI — and although stock market darling and semiconductor leader Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA) has been the most publicized winner of this new industry’s rapid rise, big data analytics company Palantir (NYSE: PLTR) could secure better yearly returns.Is Palantir stock in trouble Jefferies predicts a 60% crashAfter all, it is currently in the lead — whereas NVDA is up 196.86% since the beginning of the year, PLTR has secured gains of 266.80% in the same timeframe. Palantir stock closed higher 2.81% at $62.98 apiece on Tuesday.Palantir has long been a favorite of retail investors — in contrast, institutional investors spent most of the last couple of years openly doubting the stock. After a standout Q3 2024 earnings call on November 4, that perspective has shifted — hedge funds are now purchasing large quantities of PLTR shares, while Wall Street equity analysts are setting increasingly higher price targets.It would not be a stretch to say that an atmosphere of greed is present — and with the hype surrounding both the wider AI industry and Palantir, it’s more important than ever to take note of and heed dissenting voices. Valuation has long been one of the primary concerns surrounding the Alex Karp-led business — and the recent surge in price has done nothing to dispel those worries.In stark contrast with most of his colleagues, one Jefferies researcher has set a price target that would correspond with a 60% decrease in PLTR share price — let’s take a closer look at his rationale.Jefferies analyst Brent Thill sees significant downside for PLTR stockOn November 7, Jefferies software and internet researcher Brent Thill downgraded Palantir stock to ‘Underperform’ from his prior ‘Hold’ rating. His previous price target of $28 remains unchanged.Shares of the AI software infrastructure company are currently trading at a 43 times multiple of its calendar 2025 revenue. As noted by Thill, the last time such conditions were seen in the tech sector was the Covid bubble. However, seeing as how macro conditions have normalized, this is no longer a common sight — Palantir’s multiple is currently over four times as large as its next comparable peer.The expert added that although Palantir’s fundamentals ‘are alive,’ the company would have to accelerate growth to 40% for four years straight and trade at 12x estimated 2028 revenue ‘just for the stock to hold its price, which seems unlikely.’At present, Thill deems even current prices unsustainable — and his arguments seem to hold water. In addition, the researcher pointed out that insider selling activity has picked up — most notably, CEO Alex Karp sold $398 million worth of PLTR stock on November 13.That’s not to say that he is completely bearish when it comes to the business — while he urged caution, the Jefferies analyst added that investors should wait for a better entry point — suggesting that, though he does believe in the company’s continued success, he foresees a steep correction in the short and medium term.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":178,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":372989698400416,"gmtCreate":1732071814411,"gmtModify":1732071818589,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"They love to use the word its is pricey now. And the moment they say sell. Dont get taken in. You sell..they buy. It jus goes up&nbsp;","listText":"They love to use the word its is pricey now. And the moment they say sell. Dont get taken in. You sell..they buy. It jus goes up&nbsp;","text":"They love to use the word its is pricey now. And the moment they say sell. Dont get taken in. You sell..they buy. It jus goes up","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/372989698400416","repostId":"2484816924","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2484816924","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1732068033,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2484816924?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-20 10:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Cathie Wood Is Selling Palantir Stock. Here's Why That Makes Sense","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2484816924","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Cathie Wood of Ark Invest has been selling Palantir stock, despite it being the best-performing stock in the S&P 500 this year.","content":"<ul style=\"\"><li><p>Cathie Wood has sold about 1.9 million shares of Palantir in the last two months.</p></li><li><p>During the period Wood trimmed her position, the stock rose almost 90%.</p></li><li><p>Palantir's valuation looks stretched right now, and taking profits off the table is perfectly reasonable.</p></li></ul><p>The artificial intelligence (AI) narrative is entering a new chapter, and it's time for the \"Magnificent Seven\" stocks to move over. Throughout 2024, investors have been presented with a host of new, emerging players that are working alongside big tech and have proven they are here to compete in the AI realm.</p><p>In my eyes, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PLTR\">Palantir Technologies</a> has become the most interesting case study among smaller technology companies. So far in 2024, shares of Palantir have gained 283% as of this writing, and the company stands as the best-performing stock in the S&amp;P 500 this year.</p><p>And yet, as shares of Palantir continue to reach new highs, one notable investor has been dumping the stock in droves. I'm going to outline the moves Cathie Wood of Ark Invest is making, and detail why selling Palantir stock right now actually makes a lot of sense.</p><h2 id=\"id_3411456915\">Let's take a look at Wood's recent moves in Palantir</h2><p>One of the more interesting things about Ark Invest is that the firm publishes a breakdown of the stocks it buys and sells each trading day.</p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><tbody><tr><th style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Date</p></th><th style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Shares of PLTR Sold</p></th></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>09/11/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>184,051</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>09/13/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>13,713</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>09/17/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>8,555</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>09/18/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>32,772</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>09/20/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>16,053</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>09/23/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>7,747</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>09/25/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>62,809</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>10/28/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>128,908</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>10/30/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>372,730</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>11/01/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>227,699</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>11/04/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>158,457</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>11/05/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>211,203</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>11/07/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>264,513</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>11/15/24</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>197,847</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Data source: Ark Invest, Cathiesark.com. Table by author.</p><p>According to that data, Wood and her team reduced their holdings of Palantir across Ark's various funds by roughly 1.9 million shares between Sept. 11 and Nov. 15.</p><h2 id=\"id_3295179883\">Why does selling Palantir stock make sense right now?</h2><p>Shares of Palantir have soared throughout 2024. But between Sept. 11 and Nov. 15 (the period of Ark's selling), Palantir stock gained 89%.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9a603544fbfbffb1609f39e12b0def85\" alt=\"Data by YCharts.\" title=\"Data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"441\"><span>Data by YCharts.</span></p><p>In the chart above, the date of Palantir's third-quarter earnings release is marked with a purple circle with the letter \"E\" in the center. As you can see, Palantir stock has risen considerably following that blowout Q3 report.</p><p>While such gains have been great for Palantir shareholders, the magnitude of these upswings should come with a hard look at the fundamentals. As illustrated in the graph below, Palantir's price-to-sales (P/S) multiple of 60 is the highest among leading software-as-a-service (SaaS) businesses -- and it's not particularly close, either.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3b30366a6c44b221bc23151756e45e7f\" alt=\"Data by YCharts.\" title=\"Data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"541\"><span>Data by YCharts.</span></p><p>I cannot stress this point enough: Palantir is trading at more 60 times sales, <em>not</em> <em>earnings</em>. While Palantir is indeed generating positive net income and free cash flow, both measures are still relatively small right now.</p><p>Whenever a stock experiences a pronounced rally in a short time period, it's appropriate for fund managers to rebalance their portfolio. In this case, Wood's sales of Palantir coincide with the company being added to the S&amp;P 500 as well as an impressive earnings report. Both of these events became positive near-term catalysts for Palantir stock.</p><p>It's possible Palantir's weighting across the different Ark funds was becoming too high, so Wood and team decided to trim the position and take some profits off the table. While Palantir has demonstrated an ability to accelerate both revenue and profits, the valuation expansion seen in the chart above suggests the stock may be overbought right now.</p><h2 id=\"id_2399248127\">Remember to think long-term</h2><p>As a Palantir shareholder, I very much believe in the company's future thanks to lucrative partnerships with big tech firms such as <strong>Amazon</strong>, <strong>Microsoft</strong>, and <strong>Oracle</strong>. Moreover, Palantir is quietly becoming a major force in the U.S. military's defense tech effort -- an opportunity Mordor Intelligence estimates will be worth more than $60 billion by 2029.</p><p>That said, Palantir stock is undoubtedly pricey right now. If you've been holding the stock for a long time, consider trimming your position at this point. Although there's still potential upside for Palantir, reducing your position at these valuation levels can also make sense.</p>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood Is Selling Palantir Stock. 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Here's Why That Makes Sense\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-20 10:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/11/19/cathie-wood-is-selling-palantir-stock-heres-why-th/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Cathie Wood has sold about 1.9 million shares of Palantir in the last two months.During the period Wood trimmed her position, the stock rose almost 90%.Palantir's valuation looks stretched right now, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/11/19/cathie-wood-is-selling-palantir-stock-heres-why-th/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/11/19/cathie-wood-is-selling-palantir-stock-heres-why-th/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2484816924","content_text":"Cathie Wood has sold about 1.9 million shares of Palantir in the last two months.During the period Wood trimmed her position, the stock rose almost 90%.Palantir's valuation looks stretched right now, and taking profits off the table is perfectly reasonable.The artificial intelligence (AI) narrative is entering a new chapter, and it's time for the \"Magnificent Seven\" stocks to move over. Throughout 2024, investors have been presented with a host of new, emerging players that are working alongside big tech and have proven they are here to compete in the AI realm.In my eyes, Palantir Technologies has become the most interesting case study among smaller technology companies. So far in 2024, shares of Palantir have gained 283% as of this writing, and the company stands as the best-performing stock in the S&P 500 this year.And yet, as shares of Palantir continue to reach new highs, one notable investor has been dumping the stock in droves. I'm going to outline the moves Cathie Wood of Ark Invest is making, and detail why selling Palantir stock right now actually makes a lot of sense.Let's take a look at Wood's recent moves in PalantirOne of the more interesting things about Ark Invest is that the firm publishes a breakdown of the stocks it buys and sells each trading day.DateShares of PLTR Sold09/11/24184,05109/13/2413,71309/17/248,55509/18/2432,77209/20/2416,05309/23/247,74709/25/2462,80910/28/24128,90810/30/24372,73011/01/24227,69911/04/24158,45711/05/24211,20311/07/24264,51311/15/24197,847Data source: Ark Invest, Cathiesark.com. Table by author.According to that data, Wood and her team reduced their holdings of Palantir across Ark's various funds by roughly 1.9 million shares between Sept. 11 and Nov. 15.Why does selling Palantir stock make sense right now?Shares of Palantir have soared throughout 2024. But between Sept. 11 and Nov. 15 (the period of Ark's selling), Palantir stock gained 89%.Data by YCharts.In the chart above, the date of Palantir's third-quarter earnings release is marked with a purple circle with the letter \"E\" in the center. As you can see, Palantir stock has risen considerably following that blowout Q3 report.While such gains have been great for Palantir shareholders, the magnitude of these upswings should come with a hard look at the fundamentals. As illustrated in the graph below, Palantir's price-to-sales (P/S) multiple of 60 is the highest among leading software-as-a-service (SaaS) businesses -- and it's not particularly close, either.Data by YCharts.I cannot stress this point enough: Palantir is trading at more 60 times sales, not earnings. While Palantir is indeed generating positive net income and free cash flow, both measures are still relatively small right now.Whenever a stock experiences a pronounced rally in a short time period, it's appropriate for fund managers to rebalance their portfolio. In this case, Wood's sales of Palantir coincide with the company being added to the S&P 500 as well as an impressive earnings report. Both of these events became positive near-term catalysts for Palantir stock.It's possible Palantir's weighting across the different Ark funds was becoming too high, so Wood and team decided to trim the position and take some profits off the table. While Palantir has demonstrated an ability to accelerate both revenue and profits, the valuation expansion seen in the chart above suggests the stock may be overbought right now.Remember to think long-termAs a Palantir shareholder, I very much believe in the company's future thanks to lucrative partnerships with big tech firms such as Amazon, Microsoft, and Oracle. Moreover, Palantir is quietly becoming a major force in the U.S. military's defense tech effort -- an opportunity Mordor Intelligence estimates will be worth more than $60 billion by 2029.That said, Palantir stock is undoubtedly pricey right now. If you've been holding the stock for a long time, consider trimming your position at this point. Although there's still potential upside for Palantir, reducing your position at these valuation levels can also make sense.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":333,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":370369749709016,"gmtCreate":1731450438254,"gmtModify":1731450442163,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Dont believe all these traps. U sell..it will just go 🔝&nbsp;","listText":"Dont believe all these traps. U sell..it will just go 🔝&nbsp;","text":"Dont believe all these traps. U sell..it will just go 🔝","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/370369749709016","repostId":"1135175736","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1135175736","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1731426796,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1135175736?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-11-12 23:53","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Take Profits Before It's Too Late","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1135175736","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir’s current valuation is unsustainable, with a forward P/E of 158x and EV/Sales multiple of 46x, well above sector averages, driven largely by AI hype.While Q3 results showed strong grow","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_3777394302\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir’s current valuation is unsustainable, with a forward P/E of 158x and EV/Sales multiple of 46x, well above sector averages, driven largely by AI hype.</p></li><li><p>While Q3 results showed strong growth and improved profitability, the stock&#39;s current price assumes flawless future execution, creating an unfavorable risk-reward scenario.</p></li><li><p>Recent insider sales, including $1.2 billion by the CEO, and a retail-heavy shareholder base increase vulnerability to market shifts and volatility.</p></li><li><p>Given the stretched valuation and risks, investors with gains should consider trimming positions, as current levels may not justify the stock’s elevated price.</p></li></ul><p>After Q3 2024 Earnings of Palantir Technologies&#39; (NYSE:PLTR) I am taking a contrarian stance and initiating a Sell rating with a fair value estimate of $38.50. Because of overvaluation at its current market valuation of $60 per share, even when factoring in the substantial momentum in its artificial intelligence initiatives.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2cc3c3ff5b7d1c443e5ebeb2d048a9b3\" alt=\"Data by YCharts\" title=\"Data by YCharts\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"424\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The journey of Palantir&#39;s stock has been nothing short of remarkable, surging 687% from its May 2023 lows. While this appreciation was initially grounded in legitimate fundamental improvements, I believe the rally has now entered dangerous territory driven more by market euphoria around AI adoption than by rational valuation metrics. The current forward Non-GAAP P/E ratio of 158x and EV/Sales multiple of 46x represent premiums that are difficult to justify under any reasonable growth assumptions.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Looking at Palantir&#39;s recent operational performance the company has undeniably executed well on its growth strategy. The third quarter of 2024 marked a significant milestone with revenue reaching $725.5 million exceeding analyst estimates by $22 million. This represented a 30% YoY growth rate, notably accelerating from previous quarters. What&#39;s particularly impressive is the composition of this growth: U.S. commercial revenue surged 54% YoY while the traditionally stable government segment grew by a robust 40%.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The company&#39;s transformation in profitability metrics has been even more remarkable. Free cash flow generation reached $434.5 million in Q3 representing a staggering 208% YoY increase. More importantly, free cash flow margins expanded to 60%, compared to 25% in the year-ago period, demonstrating operational leverage in the business model. This improvement in cash generation efficiency suggests that Palantir has successfully transitioned from its previous cash burning growth phase to a more sustainable financial model.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The addition of new U.S. commercial customers in Q3 alone, bringing the total commercial customer base to 498 (representing 51% YoY growth), indicates strong market acceptance of Palantir&#39;s expanded product portfolio, particularly its Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP). The growth in commercial customers is especially significant, as it reduces the company&#39;s historical dependence on government contracts and validates its ability to compete in the broader enterprise market.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">However, this is where I diverge from the bullish narrative. While these operational improvements are impressive, I believe the current valuation has overshot what these fundamentals can reasonably support. The market is effectively pricing in not just continued excellence but perfect execution for years to come. Based on Wall Street&#39;s earnings estimates, which project 17% earnings growth over the next twelve months, the forward P/E ratio of 158x is dramatically overdone. For context, this gives Palantir a PEG ratio of 6, nearly three times higher than the 2.0 level typically considered expensive.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">What&#39;s particularly concerning is the sharp disconnect between Palantir&#39;s valuation and both its historical averages and peers. Even among high-growth software peers like Snowflake and CrowdStrike, which trade at rich valuations themselves, Palantir&#39;s multiples stand out as extreme.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The core issue isn&#39;t whether Palantir is a good company - it clearly is - but whether it&#39;s a good investment at current price. The market has pushed the stock well beyond what even the most optimistic growth scenarios can justify creating a precarious situation where any slight disappointment in execution could trigger significant multiple compression. This sets up an unfavorable risk-reward dynamic that investors should carefully consider especially given the stock&#39;s spectacular YTD appreciation.</p><h2 id=\"id_1507115959\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Severe Overvaluation</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The reason why I am making an argument for taking profits is mainly because of its currently inflated valuation metrics which have reached levels that are difficult to justify even under the most optimistic growth scenarios. Palantir&#39;s current valuation ratios reveal a concerning image of the company&#39;s fundamental value and its market price even when accounting for its impressive AI-driven growth trajectory and strong government relationships.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9a996a424f4c3c2f0cf0c0f39208cbec\" alt=\"Data by YCharts\" title=\"Data by YCharts\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"456\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Palantir currently trades at a forward P/E ratio of 158x, representing a staggering 500% premium to the sector median of 25.67x. This premium becomes even more pronounced when examining other key metrics. The company&#39;s EV/Sales (FWD) multiple of 46x stands at an astronomical 1,365% above the sector median of 3.15x, while its EV/EBITDA (FWD) ratio of 118x commands a 667% premium to the sector median of just 15.5x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/429e4771aa892796b95e9f6dd596c772\" alt=\"Data by YCharts\" title=\"Data by YCharts\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"721\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">When comparing Palantir to its closest peers in the enterprise software and AI space, typically high-growth software companies typically command premium valuations, but Palantir&#39;s multiples stand out as extreme even in this context. Looking at forward P/E ratios, established players like Synopsys (SNPS) and Cadence (CDNS) trade at 37.2x and 50.13x respectively, while even high-growth cybersecurity leader CrowdStrike trades at a lower multiple of 91.9x. Only Snowflake (SNOW), at 203x, trades at a higher forward P/E, though notably, its EV/Sales multiple of 10.56x is substantially lower than Palantir&#39;s 46x.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The bull case for maintaining these premium valuations rests heavily on Palantir&#39;s Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP) and its entrenched position within government agencies. However, this argument has its own flaws. First, the company&#39;s current 30% revenue growth rate (YoY) is impressive. The margin expansion is also impressive but faces natural limitations. Palantir has successfully transitioned from being a cash burning growth company to achieving a net income margin of nearly 20%, with free cash flow margins expanding to 60% from 25% a year ago. However, maintaining this pace of improvement will become increasingly difficult as the company scales.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Competition in the commercial space poses another significant challenge to Palantir&#39;s premium valuation. While the company&#39;s government relationships provide a strong moat for that segment of the business, the commercial space is highly competitive. Palantir faces formidable competition from established players like IBM, CrowdStrike (CRWD), SentinelOne (S), Oracle (ORCL) and Microsoft (MSFT) with deep pockets and strong AI capabilities.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">My price target for (PLTR), incorporating both growth prospects and market conditions, points to a fair value estimate of $38.50 per share. This target reflects a comprehensive assessment of Palantir&#39;s growth trajectory and earnings potential, while acknowledging the premium multiply the market has historically awarded to the company.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Using a growth adjusted valuation framework, Wall Street&#39;s median price target of $28 per share appears plausible, implying a potential downside of 47% from current levels. Even if we use more optimistic assumptions - a 25% annual EPS growth rate and a premium forward P/E multiple of 55x - my analysis suggests a fair value of $38.50.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">What makes this valuation situation particularly precarious is the high concentration of retail investors in Palantir&#39;s shareholder base, with approximately 50% of shares held by retail investors. This ownership structure could amplify volatility in both directions, potentially leading to rapid multiple compression if market sentiment shifts or if the company faces any execution challenges in maintaining its current growth trajectory.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">My methodology behind this price target, I projected Palantir&#39;s earnings growth over the next three years, factoring in the company&#39;s improving profitability metrics and market expansion opportunities. l assume a 25% annual EPS growth rate through 2027, which is aggressive but also aligns with the company&#39;s transition from a growth-at-all-costs model to one focused on profitability. This growth rate factors in Wall Street&#39;s expectations for the AI platform market, which IDC estimates will grow at 41% annually through 2028, but Palantir&#39;s scale will make maintaining hypergrowth increasingly challenging.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Applying this growth rate to current earnings projections yields an estimated FY 2027 EPS of $0.70 per share. The target multiple of 55x forward earnings, while rich by broad market standards but because of Palantir&#39;s historical premium position within the enterprise software sector. Even this generous multiple represents a significant compression from current levels.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The downside risk scenario deserves particular attention, especially given current market conditions. In a broader market downturn or during periods of multiple compression, Palantir&#39;s stock could face substantially more pressure than my base case. During market stress periods, high multiple software stocks often see their valuations compress to levels that would imply a price below $20 per share for Palantir. This risk is amplified by the company&#39;s shareholder composition, as I mentioned earlier 50% of shares held by retail investors potentially leading to more volatile trading during market distress.</p><h2 id=\"id_3062713452\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Insider Sales</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The recent pattern of insider selling at Palantir is a significant red flag that investors cannot afford to ignore. According to Jefferies&#39; analysis,</p><blockquote><p>Palantir&#39;s CEO having sold more than $1.2 billion of stock in the past three months, representing approximately 14% of his stake.</p></blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b85c39dba9b6b238fae8955569751f8b\" alt=\"TrendSpider\" title=\"TrendSpider\" tg-width=\"1024\" tg-height=\"654\"/><span>TrendSpider</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">While it&#39;s common for executives to maintain pre-planned selling programs through 10b5-1 plans, both the magnitude and timing of these sales warrant careful scrutiny. The uptick in insider sales becomes particularly noteworthy when viewed against the backdrop of Palantir&#39;s broader risk/reward profile, which has shifted dramatically following the stock&#39;s 687% surge from its May 2023 lows.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Looking at near term catalysts, Palantir faces several challenges that could trigger multiple compression. The company&#39;s government business, while strong at 40% YoY growth, may face growth constraints due to budget limitations. As noted in their recent 10-Q filing, Palantir acknowledges that</p><blockquote><p>Until recent quarters, we had a history of incurring net losses, and we anticipate our operating expenses will continue to increase and we may not be able to achieve or maintain profitability in the future - PLTR Q3 10-Q Filing</p></blockquote><p style=\"text-align: left;\">This caution from management stands in stark contrast to the market&#39;s current optimistic pricing. While Palantir&#39;s AIP platform shows promise, the commercial market&#39;s higher churn risk and more competitive dynamics could pressure growth rates. These risk factors, combined with the current valuation premiums and accelerating insider sales, create an asymmetric risk/reward profile that tilts heavily toward risk at current price levels. While the stock could certainly continue its momentum-driven rally in the near term, the fundamental support for current valuations appears increasingly tenuous, suggesting investors should seriously consider taking profits and reducing exposure to more reasonable levels.</p><h2 id=\"id_3996692481\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Time to Take Profits</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">While I am impressed by Palantir&#39;s execution and long-term potential, the risk/reward profile at current levels is simply unattractive. The combination of:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Extreme valuation premiums across all metrics</p></li><li><p>Increasing insider sales</p></li><li><p>High retail investor concentration (about 50% of float)</p></li></ul><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Creates a potentially volatile situation where any slight disappointment could trigger significant multiple compression.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">For investors sitting on substantial gains, I believe now is an opportune time to at least trim positions and lock in profits. The stock&#39;s momentum could certainly continue in the near term, but the downside risks now outweigh the potential for further upside. In my view, waiting for a better entry point would be the prudent strategy for those looking to initiate or add to positions.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1642056764450","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Take Profits Before It's Too Late</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Take Profits Before It's Too Late\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-11-12 23:53 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736156-palantir-take-profits-before-its-too-late><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryPalantir’s current valuation is unsustainable, with a forward P/E of 158x and EV/Sales multiple of 46x, well above sector averages, driven largely by AI hype.While Q3 results showed strong ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736156-palantir-take-profits-before-its-too-late\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736156-palantir-take-profits-before-its-too-late","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1135175736","content_text":"SummaryPalantir’s current valuation is unsustainable, with a forward P/E of 158x and EV/Sales multiple of 46x, well above sector averages, driven largely by AI hype.While Q3 results showed strong growth and improved profitability, the stock's current price assumes flawless future execution, creating an unfavorable risk-reward scenario.Recent insider sales, including $1.2 billion by the CEO, and a retail-heavy shareholder base increase vulnerability to market shifts and volatility.Given the stretched valuation and risks, investors with gains should consider trimming positions, as current levels may not justify the stock’s elevated price.After Q3 2024 Earnings of Palantir Technologies' (NYSE:PLTR) I am taking a contrarian stance and initiating a Sell rating with a fair value estimate of $38.50. Because of overvaluation at its current market valuation of $60 per share, even when factoring in the substantial momentum in its artificial intelligence initiatives.Data by YChartsThe journey of Palantir's stock has been nothing short of remarkable, surging 687% from its May 2023 lows. While this appreciation was initially grounded in legitimate fundamental improvements, I believe the rally has now entered dangerous territory driven more by market euphoria around AI adoption than by rational valuation metrics. The current forward Non-GAAP P/E ratio of 158x and EV/Sales multiple of 46x represent premiums that are difficult to justify under any reasonable growth assumptions.Looking at Palantir's recent operational performance the company has undeniably executed well on its growth strategy. The third quarter of 2024 marked a significant milestone with revenue reaching $725.5 million exceeding analyst estimates by $22 million. This represented a 30% YoY growth rate, notably accelerating from previous quarters. What's particularly impressive is the composition of this growth: U.S. commercial revenue surged 54% YoY while the traditionally stable government segment grew by a robust 40%.The company's transformation in profitability metrics has been even more remarkable. Free cash flow generation reached $434.5 million in Q3 representing a staggering 208% YoY increase. More importantly, free cash flow margins expanded to 60%, compared to 25% in the year-ago period, demonstrating operational leverage in the business model. This improvement in cash generation efficiency suggests that Palantir has successfully transitioned from its previous cash burning growth phase to a more sustainable financial model.The addition of new U.S. commercial customers in Q3 alone, bringing the total commercial customer base to 498 (representing 51% YoY growth), indicates strong market acceptance of Palantir's expanded product portfolio, particularly its Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP). The growth in commercial customers is especially significant, as it reduces the company's historical dependence on government contracts and validates its ability to compete in the broader enterprise market.However, this is where I diverge from the bullish narrative. While these operational improvements are impressive, I believe the current valuation has overshot what these fundamentals can reasonably support. The market is effectively pricing in not just continued excellence but perfect execution for years to come. Based on Wall Street's earnings estimates, which project 17% earnings growth over the next twelve months, the forward P/E ratio of 158x is dramatically overdone. For context, this gives Palantir a PEG ratio of 6, nearly three times higher than the 2.0 level typically considered expensive.What's particularly concerning is the sharp disconnect between Palantir's valuation and both its historical averages and peers. Even among high-growth software peers like Snowflake and CrowdStrike, which trade at rich valuations themselves, Palantir's multiples stand out as extreme.The core issue isn't whether Palantir is a good company - it clearly is - but whether it's a good investment at current price. The market has pushed the stock well beyond what even the most optimistic growth scenarios can justify creating a precarious situation where any slight disappointment in execution could trigger significant multiple compression. This sets up an unfavorable risk-reward dynamic that investors should carefully consider especially given the stock's spectacular YTD appreciation.Severe OvervaluationThe reason why I am making an argument for taking profits is mainly because of its currently inflated valuation metrics which have reached levels that are difficult to justify even under the most optimistic growth scenarios. Palantir's current valuation ratios reveal a concerning image of the company's fundamental value and its market price even when accounting for its impressive AI-driven growth trajectory and strong government relationships.Data by YChartsPalantir currently trades at a forward P/E ratio of 158x, representing a staggering 500% premium to the sector median of 25.67x. This premium becomes even more pronounced when examining other key metrics. The company's EV/Sales (FWD) multiple of 46x stands at an astronomical 1,365% above the sector median of 3.15x, while its EV/EBITDA (FWD) ratio of 118x commands a 667% premium to the sector median of just 15.5x.Data by YChartsWhen comparing Palantir to its closest peers in the enterprise software and AI space, typically high-growth software companies typically command premium valuations, but Palantir's multiples stand out as extreme even in this context. Looking at forward P/E ratios, established players like Synopsys (SNPS) and Cadence (CDNS) trade at 37.2x and 50.13x respectively, while even high-growth cybersecurity leader CrowdStrike trades at a lower multiple of 91.9x. Only Snowflake (SNOW), at 203x, trades at a higher forward P/E, though notably, its EV/Sales multiple of 10.56x is substantially lower than Palantir's 46x.The bull case for maintaining these premium valuations rests heavily on Palantir's Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP) and its entrenched position within government agencies. However, this argument has its own flaws. First, the company's current 30% revenue growth rate (YoY) is impressive. The margin expansion is also impressive but faces natural limitations. Palantir has successfully transitioned from being a cash burning growth company to achieving a net income margin of nearly 20%, with free cash flow margins expanding to 60% from 25% a year ago. However, maintaining this pace of improvement will become increasingly difficult as the company scales.Competition in the commercial space poses another significant challenge to Palantir's premium valuation. While the company's government relationships provide a strong moat for that segment of the business, the commercial space is highly competitive. Palantir faces formidable competition from established players like IBM, CrowdStrike (CRWD), SentinelOne (S), Oracle (ORCL) and Microsoft (MSFT) with deep pockets and strong AI capabilities.My price target for (PLTR), incorporating both growth prospects and market conditions, points to a fair value estimate of $38.50 per share. This target reflects a comprehensive assessment of Palantir's growth trajectory and earnings potential, while acknowledging the premium multiply the market has historically awarded to the company.Using a growth adjusted valuation framework, Wall Street's median price target of $28 per share appears plausible, implying a potential downside of 47% from current levels. Even if we use more optimistic assumptions - a 25% annual EPS growth rate and a premium forward P/E multiple of 55x - my analysis suggests a fair value of $38.50.What makes this valuation situation particularly precarious is the high concentration of retail investors in Palantir's shareholder base, with approximately 50% of shares held by retail investors. This ownership structure could amplify volatility in both directions, potentially leading to rapid multiple compression if market sentiment shifts or if the company faces any execution challenges in maintaining its current growth trajectory.My methodology behind this price target, I projected Palantir's earnings growth over the next three years, factoring in the company's improving profitability metrics and market expansion opportunities. l assume a 25% annual EPS growth rate through 2027, which is aggressive but also aligns with the company's transition from a growth-at-all-costs model to one focused on profitability. This growth rate factors in Wall Street's expectations for the AI platform market, which IDC estimates will grow at 41% annually through 2028, but Palantir's scale will make maintaining hypergrowth increasingly challenging.Applying this growth rate to current earnings projections yields an estimated FY 2027 EPS of $0.70 per share. The target multiple of 55x forward earnings, while rich by broad market standards but because of Palantir's historical premium position within the enterprise software sector. Even this generous multiple represents a significant compression from current levels.The downside risk scenario deserves particular attention, especially given current market conditions. In a broader market downturn or during periods of multiple compression, Palantir's stock could face substantially more pressure than my base case. During market stress periods, high multiple software stocks often see their valuations compress to levels that would imply a price below $20 per share for Palantir. This risk is amplified by the company's shareholder composition, as I mentioned earlier 50% of shares held by retail investors potentially leading to more volatile trading during market distress.Insider SalesThe recent pattern of insider selling at Palantir is a significant red flag that investors cannot afford to ignore. According to Jefferies' analysis,Palantir's CEO having sold more than $1.2 billion of stock in the past three months, representing approximately 14% of his stake.TrendSpiderWhile it's common for executives to maintain pre-planned selling programs through 10b5-1 plans, both the magnitude and timing of these sales warrant careful scrutiny. The uptick in insider sales becomes particularly noteworthy when viewed against the backdrop of Palantir's broader risk/reward profile, which has shifted dramatically following the stock's 687% surge from its May 2023 lows.Looking at near term catalysts, Palantir faces several challenges that could trigger multiple compression. The company's government business, while strong at 40% YoY growth, may face growth constraints due to budget limitations. As noted in their recent 10-Q filing, Palantir acknowledges thatUntil recent quarters, we had a history of incurring net losses, and we anticipate our operating expenses will continue to increase and we may not be able to achieve or maintain profitability in the future - PLTR Q3 10-Q FilingThis caution from management stands in stark contrast to the market's current optimistic pricing. While Palantir's AIP platform shows promise, the commercial market's higher churn risk and more competitive dynamics could pressure growth rates. These risk factors, combined with the current valuation premiums and accelerating insider sales, create an asymmetric risk/reward profile that tilts heavily toward risk at current price levels. While the stock could certainly continue its momentum-driven rally in the near term, the fundamental support for current valuations appears increasingly tenuous, suggesting investors should seriously consider taking profits and reducing exposure to more reasonable levels.Time to Take ProfitsWhile I am impressed by Palantir's execution and long-term potential, the risk/reward profile at current levels is simply unattractive. The combination of:Extreme valuation premiums across all metricsIncreasing insider salesHigh retail investor concentration (about 50% of float)Creates a potentially volatile situation where any slight disappointment could trigger significant multiple compression.For investors sitting on substantial gains, I believe now is an opportune time to at least trim positions and lock in profits. The stock's momentum could certainly continue in the near term, but the downside risks now outweigh the potential for further upside. 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Wont be wrong","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/366002927792360","repostId":"1104554206","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1104554206","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Stock Market Quotes, Business News, Financial News, Trading Ideas, and Stock Research by Professionals","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Benzinga","id":"1052270027","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa"},"pubTimestamp":1730353310,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1104554206?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-31 13:41","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Cathie Wood Shuffles Her Tech Deck: Continues Dumping Tesla And Palantir, Stocks Up On AMD And Meta","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1104554206","media":"Benzinga","summary":"On Wednesday, Cathie Wood-led Ark Invest made some significant trades, with the most notable ones involving Tesla Inc (TSLA), Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD), and Palantir Technologies Inc (PLTR).The","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>On Wednesday, Cathie Wood-led <strong>Ark Invest</strong> made some significant trades, with the most notable ones involving <strong>Tesla Inc</strong> (TSLA), <strong>Advanced Micro Devices Inc</strong> (AMD), and <strong>Palantir Technologies Inc</strong> (PLTR).</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>The Tesla Trade:</strong> Ark Invest’s <strong>ARK Innovation ETF</strong> (ARKK) and <strong>ARK Next Generation Internet ETF</strong> (ARKW) sold a total of 62,151 shares of Tesla. Based on Tesla&#39;s closing price of $257.55 on Wednesday, the value of this trade is approximately $16 million.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This move followed Ark’s recent decision to buy a substantial amount of Archer Aviation Inc (ACHR) shares on both Tuesday and Wednesday while selling shares of the <strong>Elon Musk</strong>-led company.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">ARK Investment Management projects that Tesla’s driverless ride-hailing service could tap into an $11 trillion revenue market, leveraging low operating costs to undercut current ride-hail prices. Tesla aims to launch this service next year in Texas and California, initially with drivers, and targets fully autonomous rides pending regulatory approval. Even so, the Wood-led firm has been on a Tesla share-selling spree lately.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>The AMD Trade:</strong> Ark Invest bought a total of 111,080 shares of Advanced Micro Devices across its ARKK, ARKW, <strong>ARK Autonomous Technology &amp; Robotics ETF</strong> (ARKQ) and <strong>ARK Space Exploration &amp; Innovation ETF</strong> (ARKX). This move comes in the wake of AMD’s impressive Q3 earnings report, which revealed a year-over-year revenue increase of 18%. The value of this trade, based on AMD’s closing price of $148.6 on Wednesday, is approximately $16.5 million.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>The Palantir Trade:</strong> Ark Invest sold a total of 372,730 shares of Palantir Technologies across its ARKK, ARKQ, ARKW, and ARKX ETFs. Despite Palantir’s recent 52-week high and a strategic partnership with L3Harris Technologies Inc (LHX), Ark decided to reduce its stake. The value of this trade, based on Palantir’s closing price of $43.69 on Wednesday, is approximately $16.3 million.</p><p><strong>Other Key Trades:</strong></p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p>Cathie Wood Purchased 689365 shares of <strong>Archer Aviation Inc</strong> (ACHR) through its ARKK ETF. This transaction was valued at $2.3 million.</p></li><li><p>The firm bought 3426 shares of <strong>Meta Platforms Inc (</strong>META), worth $2.03 million, through its ARKK and ARKW ETFs.</p></li><li><p>Ark Invest bought shares of Absci Corp (ABSI) and shares of Cerus Corp (CERS) through its ARKG ETF.</p></li></ul></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood Shuffles Her Tech Deck: Continues Dumping Tesla And Palantir, Stocks Up On AMD And Meta</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCathie Wood Shuffles Her Tech Deck: Continues Dumping Tesla And Palantir, Stocks Up On AMD And Meta\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Benzinga </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-10-31 13:41</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>On Wednesday, Cathie Wood-led <strong>Ark Invest</strong> made some significant trades, with the most notable ones involving <strong>Tesla Inc</strong> (TSLA), <strong>Advanced Micro Devices Inc</strong> (AMD), and <strong>Palantir Technologies Inc</strong> (PLTR).</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>The Tesla Trade:</strong> Ark Invest’s <strong>ARK Innovation ETF</strong> (ARKK) and <strong>ARK Next Generation Internet ETF</strong> (ARKW) sold a total of 62,151 shares of Tesla. Based on Tesla&#39;s closing price of $257.55 on Wednesday, the value of this trade is approximately $16 million.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This move followed Ark’s recent decision to buy a substantial amount of Archer Aviation Inc (ACHR) shares on both Tuesday and Wednesday while selling shares of the <strong>Elon Musk</strong>-led company.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">ARK Investment Management projects that Tesla’s driverless ride-hailing service could tap into an $11 trillion revenue market, leveraging low operating costs to undercut current ride-hail prices. Tesla aims to launch this service next year in Texas and California, initially with drivers, and targets fully autonomous rides pending regulatory approval. Even so, the Wood-led firm has been on a Tesla share-selling spree lately.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>The AMD Trade:</strong> Ark Invest bought a total of 111,080 shares of Advanced Micro Devices across its ARKK, ARKW, <strong>ARK Autonomous Technology &amp; Robotics ETF</strong> (ARKQ) and <strong>ARK Space Exploration &amp; Innovation ETF</strong> (ARKX). This move comes in the wake of AMD’s impressive Q3 earnings report, which revealed a year-over-year revenue increase of 18%. The value of this trade, based on AMD’s closing price of $148.6 on Wednesday, is approximately $16.5 million.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\"><strong>The Palantir Trade:</strong> Ark Invest sold a total of 372,730 shares of Palantir Technologies across its ARKK, ARKQ, ARKW, and ARKX ETFs. Despite Palantir’s recent 52-week high and a strategic partnership with L3Harris Technologies Inc (LHX), Ark decided to reduce its stake. The value of this trade, based on Palantir’s closing price of $43.69 on Wednesday, is approximately $16.3 million.</p><p><strong>Other Key Trades:</strong></p><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p>Cathie Wood Purchased 689365 shares of <strong>Archer Aviation Inc</strong> (ACHR) through its ARKK ETF. This transaction was valued at $2.3 million.</p></li><li><p>The firm bought 3426 shares of <strong>Meta Platforms Inc (</strong>META), worth $2.03 million, through its ARKK and ARKW ETFs.</p></li><li><p>Ark Invest bought shares of Absci Corp (ABSI) and shares of Cerus Corp (CERS) through its ARKG ETF.</p></li></ul></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","CERS":"Cerus Corporation","ARKW":"ARK Next Generation Internation ETF","ABSI":"Absci Corporation.","ARKQ":"ARK Autonomous Technology & Robotics ETF","PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc.","ARKX":"ARK Space Exploration & Innovation ETF","ACHR":"Archer Aviation Inc.","ARKK":"ARK Innovation ETF","AMD":"美国超微公司","META":"Meta Platforms, Inc."},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1104554206","content_text":"On Wednesday, Cathie Wood-led Ark Invest made some significant trades, with the most notable ones involving Tesla Inc (TSLA), Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD), and Palantir Technologies Inc (PLTR).The Tesla Trade: Ark Invest’s ARK Innovation ETF (ARKK) and ARK Next Generation Internet ETF (ARKW) sold a total of 62,151 shares of Tesla. Based on Tesla's closing price of $257.55 on Wednesday, the value of this trade is approximately $16 million.This move followed Ark’s recent decision to buy a substantial amount of Archer Aviation Inc (ACHR) shares on both Tuesday and Wednesday while selling shares of the Elon Musk-led company.ARK Investment Management projects that Tesla’s driverless ride-hailing service could tap into an $11 trillion revenue market, leveraging low operating costs to undercut current ride-hail prices. Tesla aims to launch this service next year in Texas and California, initially with drivers, and targets fully autonomous rides pending regulatory approval. Even so, the Wood-led firm has been on a Tesla share-selling spree lately.The AMD Trade: Ark Invest bought a total of 111,080 shares of Advanced Micro Devices across its ARKK, ARKW, ARK Autonomous Technology & Robotics ETF (ARKQ) and ARK Space Exploration & Innovation ETF (ARKX). This move comes in the wake of AMD’s impressive Q3 earnings report, which revealed a year-over-year revenue increase of 18%. The value of this trade, based on AMD’s closing price of $148.6 on Wednesday, is approximately $16.5 million.The Palantir Trade: Ark Invest sold a total of 372,730 shares of Palantir Technologies across its ARKK, ARKQ, ARKW, and ARKX ETFs. Despite Palantir’s recent 52-week high and a strategic partnership with L3Harris Technologies Inc (LHX), Ark decided to reduce its stake. The value of this trade, based on Palantir’s closing price of $43.69 on Wednesday, is approximately $16.3 million.Other Key Trades:Cathie Wood Purchased 689365 shares of Archer Aviation Inc (ACHR) through its ARKK ETF. This transaction was valued at $2.3 million.The firm bought 3426 shares of Meta Platforms Inc (META), worth $2.03 million, through its ARKK and ARKW ETFs.Ark Invest bought shares of Absci Corp (ABSI) and shares of Cerus Corp (CERS) through its ARKG ETF.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":284,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":360973972435088,"gmtCreate":1729164072655,"gmtModify":1729164077036,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Cmon..why are u being so negative? Missed out on an earlier chance or trying to short?","listText":"Cmon..why are u being so negative? Missed out on an earlier chance or trying to short?","text":"Cmon..why are u being so negative? Missed out on an earlier chance or trying to short?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/360973972435088","repostId":"1173195967","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1173195967","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1729137443,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1173195967?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-17 11:57","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Time To Cash Out","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1173195967","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryPalantir Technologies Inc.'s stock has surged 153% YTD, driven by strong performance and AI integration, making it one of the top performers in the S&P 500.The company benefits from government ","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_2336349692\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir Technologies Inc.&#39;s stock has surged 153% YTD, driven by strong performance and AI integration, making it one of the top performers in the S&amp;P 500.</p></li><li><p>The company benefits from government contracts and is expanding its commercial segment, which is critical for future growth.</p></li><li><p>Despite strong growth and improved profitability, Palantir&#39;s valuation poses risks, requiring significant future earnings growth to justify current stock prices.</p></li><li><p>Investors should be cautious of Palantir&#39;s valuation, as sky-high expectations could lead to capital loss if growth doesn&#39;t meet projections.</p></li><li><p>I recommend investors to cash out their significant gains with the objective to buy back around $20-25/share.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/554bfffe59edb9acf6bf12d15a231da8\" alt=\"Palantir Technologies\" title=\"Palantir Technologies\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Palantir Technologies</span></p><p>Palantir Technologies Inc. officially joined the S&amp;P 500 (SP500) in September this year. This finally opened the door for institutional investors, mutual funds, and analysts to purchase the stock and increase the coverage, with the stock set to benefit from higher popularity and demand.</p><p>The data analytics software company has been red-hot this year, with its value increasing 2.86x from $15/share a year ago to $43/share today.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0667ad40c0a5aff56cd17c5943103bfa\" alt=\"Price\" title=\"Price\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"431\"/><span>Price</span></p><p>On a year-to-date basis, Palantir&#39;s stock is up 153% alone and ranks third among the best-performing stocks in the S&amp;P 500:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Vistra Corp.</strong> (VST): 225.3% YTD Return</p></li><li><p><strong>NVIDIA Corp.</strong> (NVDA): 172.2% YTD Return</p></li><li><p><strong>Palantir Technologies</strong>: 153.4% YTD Return.</p></li></ul><p>Although this is my first coverage of the stock on Seeking Alpha, I&#39;ve followed Palantir since its IPO in 2020. Even though I currently do not have any exposure to the stock, I am keeping a close eye on the company, hoping to add its shares to a portfolio on a weakness, around $20-25/share.</p><p>With Palantir&#39;s stock on fire this year and its Q3 earnings just around the corner on November 4, let&#39;s take a closer look at whether it&#39;s still a good buy heading into the earnings. Bulls generally argue Palantir&#39;s improving profitability could drive more gains in the stock price. In contrast, bears point out potential revenue deceleration, particularly as Palantir&#39;s stock trades at 29x its estimated 2025 revenue, making it one of the most expensive stocks in the S&amp;P 500.</p><h2 id=\"id_4120428033\">Palantir&#39;s Business Keeps Benefiting From AI Integration</h2><p>As a first step, let&#39;s take a look at Palantir&#39;s business, given the business is relatively complex and much of its software&#39;s details are undisclosed due to the secrecy of dealing with government.</p><p>In fact, 60% of Palantir&#39;s revenue comes from government agencies, whereas the remaining 40% comes from the commercial sector, an area where the company aims to expand its operations further to drive growth.</p><p>Palantir&#39;s core business is based on three main segments:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Gotham</strong>: Designed for government and defense agencies, providing intelligence and data analysis tools for national security.</p></li><li><p><strong>Foundry</strong>: A data integration and analytics platform that helps manage, analyze, and visualize data. Commercial clients generally use Foundry across a wide range of industries.</p></li><li><p><strong>Apollo</strong>: A scalable platform for developers to build customer applications on top of Palantir&#39;s software.</p></li></ul><p>Palantir generates revenue through two main avenues. Like most other software businesses, it generates revenue via licensing, charging subscription, or usage-based fees for its Gotham and Foundry platforms. In addition to licenses, the company offers consulting services, helping clients implement and optimize the software to address their custom requirements.</p><p>The business model is based on a three-phase approach: Acquire, Expand and Scale its business. In the acquisition phase, Palantir targets new customers by offering initial implementations at a very low cost or no cost at all. During the second phase, Palantir aims to hook the customer by addressing the customer&#39;s specific pain points. In the last phase, Palantir fully implements and configures solutions, allowing customers to create a symbiotic environment by adding their own software atop Palantir&#39;s platform.</p><p>Like most other software businesses, Palantir has been introducing AI into its product mix via the Artificial Intelligence Platform (“AIP”) in the last quarters, harnessing the power of large language models (“LLM”) for decision-making.</p><p>The first few used cases for Palantir are the integration of AI for its government customers, particularly aimed at intelligence gathering, counterterrorism, and military operations. However, the company is now aiming to leverage generative AI to drive growth in the commercial part of its business.</p><p>In my view, Palantir might be one of the key potential beneficiaries of generative AI. Its core strength lies in its ability to integrate and analyze large volumes of data to train models and decision-making, aligning perfectly with AI&#39;s need for high-quality, well-structured data for efficient model training.</p><p>To showcase a few successes, Palantir announced the extension of the government contract Maven Smart System for an additional five years. Palantir was an early contractor for the project launched in 2017, which aimed to bring AI to the battlefield. The estimated contract value is for it to be worth around $90M annually, or roughly 3.6% of Palantir&#39;s trailing-twelve-month revenue.</p><p>Likewise, Palantir was awarded a Department of Defense contract through the Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Office valued at up to $480M over the next five years and a $178M contract for project TITAN, a battlefield AI system.</p><p>From what we can see so far, Palantir&#39;s AI strategy is paying off, as it has won over major defense contracts. However, the key to unlocking future growth will be a successful execution in the more significant commercial segment.</p><p>We can see a few of such successes with customers such as Aramark, Mount Sinai, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. These showcase how Palantir&#39;s AI has helped to improve supply chain management, operational efficiency, and patient care in healthcare, as presented during the AIPCon 5 back in September.</p><p>Yet, more will need to come to justify its ballooning valuation.</p><h2 id=\"id_4290965249\">Commercial Segment Gaining Momentum</h2><p>As we are just three weeks away from Palantir reporting its Q3 2024 earnings, let&#39;s just briefly look under the hood of Q2.</p><p>In the second-quarter earnings report, Palantir exceeded Wall Street expectations on both the top and bottom lines and issued better-than-expected Q3 guidance, with the strong performance responsible for the red-hot year-to-date price performance.</p><p>For Q2, Palantir reported GAAP earnings of $0.09/share, roughly an 80% YoY increase. Revenue rose 27% to $678M, beating analysts&#39; estimates of $0.08 per share and $653M in revenue.</p><p>Both the government and commercial businesses performed very well during the quarter. The government business generated $371M in revenue, up 23% from the analyst&#39;s estimates of $349M. Its commercial business has delivered even better performance, with 33% revenue growth and revenue at $307M, ahead of the forecast by $1M.</p><p>Commercial revenue was significantly helped by a substantial 55% growth in US Commercial revenue, which reached $159M.</p><p>Palantir&#39;s future depends on its success in growing its commercial segment, which is gaining momentum as the company strengthens its expansion into financial, healthcare, and energy, moving away from a government-dependent revenue structure.</p><p>Even though government-based contracts are more guaranteed and less cyclical, most of the money is to be made in the commercial segment.</p><p>In fact, CEO Alex Karp, in a letter to shareholders, highlighted that Palantir&#39;s US commercial customer base increased 83% year over year, from 161 customers in Q2 2023 to 295 as of Q2 2024, now making up half of the company&#39;s total customer base.</p><h2 id=\"id_3456821639\">Top &amp; Bottom-Line Growth Do Not Disappoint</h2><p>Looking forward, Palantir appears to be on a solid footing to continue delivering, with the firm&#39;s billing and remaining performance obligations (“RPO”) increasing 19% and 42% YoY, respectively.</p><p>These two metrics serve for us as evidence of the strong demand for the underlying Palantir&#39;s software solutions. This is particularly as Palantir is facing higher demand than it can immediately serve, with customers very likely to stick around given Palantir&#39;s software&#39;s high switching costs.</p><p>Thanks to the strong demand, Palantir&#39;s management has raised its outlook for FY24 with estimated 2024 sales of $2.75B and $970M in operating income, an increase from the previous expectations of $2.68B of revenue and $874M of operating income.</p><p>Compared to full-FY23 revenue of $2.23B, this would represent a revenue growth of 23.3% with operating income expected to expand as much as 8x.</p><p>Nonetheless, given the strong tailwinds the business is experiencing, particularly in the US commercial segment, I expect the company to beat even its revised guidance by the end of this year. I further expect another 20-23% annual revenue growth on tap in the subsequent years.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4658355aff9e91d5e54888531dde5455\" alt=\"Revenue Growth Expectations\" title=\"Revenue Growth Expectations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"103\"/><span>Revenue Growth Expectations</span></p><p>Even as many growth companies prioritize revenue growth, leaving profitability in the back seat or straight out failing to convert revenue into earnings, that&#39;s undoubtedly not Palantir&#39;s case.</p><p>From what we can see below, Palantir&#39;s business became profitable on the operating level only in 2023, but operating income has continuously expanded, driven by higher revenue and margins.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/27cc1c87366fd09a88cad60da4721051\" alt=\"Revenue &amp; Operating Income\" title=\"Revenue &amp; Operating Income\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"446\"/><span>Revenue &amp; Operating Income</span></p><p>Palantir&#39;s operating margins have been continuously improving. Thanks to the attractive unit economics the business can generate from the existing user base by upselling new products, I see margin expansion as the likely path for the company as it grows.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ceac961d317d73a4dbda867285409e6a\" alt=\"Operating Margin\" title=\"Operating Margin\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"436\"/><span>Operating Margin</span></p><h2 id=\"id_1073175068\">Valuation Might Act As An Anchor On Future Returns</h2><p>The issue with Palantir&#39;s business is not the business itself, but the valuation—an issue we face as investors with most other high-quality companies.</p><p><strong>Let&#39;s first take a look at Palantir&#39;s Price-to-Sales valuation:</strong></p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir&#39;s management expects the FY24 sales to land at $2.75B, which would imply a P/S ratio of 35x, given the $97B market cap.</p></li><li><p>Analysts are expecting forward FY25 sales to land at $3.32B, a YoY growth of 22%, implying a 14-month forward P/S valuation of 29x.</p></li></ul><p>Now, the rich valuation, even for large-cap stock such as Palantir, would be justifiable if the company exhibited massive EPS expansion over the coming years.</p><p>As per FactSet, analysts are forecasting Palantir&#39;s EPS to grow at the following rate:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>FY24 EPS:</strong> $0.35E, YoY growth: 42%</p></li><li><p><strong>FY25 EPS:</strong> $0.42E, YoY growth: 19%</p></li><li><p><strong>FY26 EPS:</strong> $0.51E, YoY growth: 21%.</p></li></ul><p>The growth we see above indeed categorizes Palantir&#39;s stock as a genuine growth company. Still, the 20% EPS growth expectations beyond FY24 are, from my perspective, not enough to justify the exuberant valuation the stock carries.</p><p>Let&#39;s look at the following scenarios. How much does Palantir&#39;s bottom-line need to expand for the remainder of the decade to justify buying the shares at today&#39;s prices?</p><p>In Scenario 1, if we assume the projected FY24, FY25, and FY26 growth materializes as expected by the analysts and the company grows its EPS at 30% annually for the remainder of the decade, Palantir would need to trade at least at 40x its P/E by the end of 2029 to just break-even on your money or negative real return, if adjusted per inflation.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/be6e6618a303fdac09973c9f5ec5ed4e\" alt=\"Scenario 1\" title=\"Scenario 1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"317\"/><span>Scenario 1</span></p><p>Given the non-existent margin of safety and uncertain future growth, I would aim for at least 20% ROR to justify buying Palantir&#39;s shares at today&#39;s valuation. If we stick to the same growth assumptions as above, Palantir&#39;s shares would need to trade at 100x its earnings by the end of 2029 if I required the stock to deliver at 20% annualized ROR.</p><p>I am not saying Scenario 2 is impossible to materialize, but hoping for a 100x P/E valuation in 5.5 years is inherently uncertain and risky, and I do not like to bet allocate my heard-earned cash into uncertain promises.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/96b437c2ac27681308df66efd9578a5c\" alt=\"Scenario 2\" title=\"Scenario 2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"315\"/><span>Scenario 2</span></p><p>Naturally, it&#39;s possible that Palantir will beat expectations and grow its bottom line much quicker than expected. In Scenario 3, I am assuming 40% EPS growth between today and the end of 2029, a truly hyper-scaler if this growth materializes. However, even in that case, we would need to see the stock trading at around 50x its earnings if we aimed to achieve at least 16% annualized ROR.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0281c7b32de55039a645f1148aa7918e\" alt=\"Scenario 3\" title=\"Scenario 3\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"316\"/><span>Scenario 3</span></p><p>This indicates that it is critical to consider the perspective from which we examine Palantir&#39;s growth and valuation before making an investment decision.</p><p>Forecasting Palantir&#39;s future growth is inherently uncertain, given its relatively short life as a public company.</p><p>That&#39;s perhaps one reason why analysts&#39; opinions on a short-term price target differ widely. However, the average price target is $27.7/share, implying a more than 30% downside from today&#39;s share price.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f2686ef7fab1d3f7ed87c985fc7492d1\" alt=\"Price Target\" title=\"Price Target\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"218\"/><span>Price Target</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3079454860\">Investor&#39;s Takeaway</h2><p>I believe Palantir is well-positioned for long-term success in the software industry, particularly in establishing itself as a leader in AI platforms. Its access to enterprise data is an excellent start for efficient AI data model learning, eventually building a competitive advantage.</p><p>The company is helping government and commercial companies worldwide convert data into decisions, and Palantir is set to materially benefit from organizations&#39; thirst for data-driven decision-making.</p><p>I also expect Palantir&#39;s consumer footprint to materially increase over the coming years while the business benefits from unit economics, upselling its new product offerings to existing customers and improving profitability.</p><p>Nevertheless, investors should be cautious about Palantir&#39;s valuation. 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This finally opened the door for institutional investors, mutual funds, and analysts to purchase the stock and increase the coverage, with the stock set to benefit from higher popularity and demand.The data analytics software company has been red-hot this year, with its value increasing 2.86x from $15/share a year ago to $43/share today.PriceOn a year-to-date basis, Palantir's stock is up 153% alone and ranks third among the best-performing stocks in the S&P 500:Vistra Corp. (VST): 225.3% YTD ReturnNVIDIA Corp. (NVDA): 172.2% YTD ReturnPalantir Technologies: 153.4% YTD Return.Although this is my first coverage of the stock on Seeking Alpha, I've followed Palantir since its IPO in 2020. Even though I currently do not have any exposure to the stock, I am keeping a close eye on the company, hoping to add its shares to a portfolio on a weakness, around $20-25/share.With Palantir's stock on fire this year and its Q3 earnings just around the corner on November 4, let's take a closer look at whether it's still a good buy heading into the earnings. Bulls generally argue Palantir's improving profitability could drive more gains in the stock price. In contrast, bears point out potential revenue deceleration, particularly as Palantir's stock trades at 29x its estimated 2025 revenue, making it one of the most expensive stocks in the S&P 500.Palantir's Business Keeps Benefiting From AI IntegrationAs a first step, let's take a look at Palantir's business, given the business is relatively complex and much of its software's details are undisclosed due to the secrecy of dealing with government.In fact, 60% of Palantir's revenue comes from government agencies, whereas the remaining 40% comes from the commercial sector, an area where the company aims to expand its operations further to drive growth.Palantir's core business is based on three main segments:Gotham: Designed for government and defense agencies, providing intelligence and data analysis tools for national security.Foundry: A data integration and analytics platform that helps manage, analyze, and visualize data. Commercial clients generally use Foundry across a wide range of industries.Apollo: A scalable platform for developers to build customer applications on top of Palantir's software.Palantir generates revenue through two main avenues. Like most other software businesses, it generates revenue via licensing, charging subscription, or usage-based fees for its Gotham and Foundry platforms. In addition to licenses, the company offers consulting services, helping clients implement and optimize the software to address their custom requirements.The business model is based on a three-phase approach: Acquire, Expand and Scale its business. In the acquisition phase, Palantir targets new customers by offering initial implementations at a very low cost or no cost at all. During the second phase, Palantir aims to hook the customer by addressing the customer's specific pain points. In the last phase, Palantir fully implements and configures solutions, allowing customers to create a symbiotic environment by adding their own software atop Palantir's platform.Like most other software businesses, Palantir has been introducing AI into its product mix via the Artificial Intelligence Platform (“AIP”) in the last quarters, harnessing the power of large language models (“LLM”) for decision-making.The first few used cases for Palantir are the integration of AI for its government customers, particularly aimed at intelligence gathering, counterterrorism, and military operations. However, the company is now aiming to leverage generative AI to drive growth in the commercial part of its business.In my view, Palantir might be one of the key potential beneficiaries of generative AI. Its core strength lies in its ability to integrate and analyze large volumes of data to train models and decision-making, aligning perfectly with AI's need for high-quality, well-structured data for efficient model training.To showcase a few successes, Palantir announced the extension of the government contract Maven Smart System for an additional five years. Palantir was an early contractor for the project launched in 2017, which aimed to bring AI to the battlefield. The estimated contract value is for it to be worth around $90M annually, or roughly 3.6% of Palantir's trailing-twelve-month revenue.Likewise, Palantir was awarded a Department of Defense contract through the Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Office valued at up to $480M over the next five years and a $178M contract for project TITAN, a battlefield AI system.From what we can see so far, Palantir's AI strategy is paying off, as it has won over major defense contracts. However, the key to unlocking future growth will be a successful execution in the more significant commercial segment.We can see a few of such successes with customers such as Aramark, Mount Sinai, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. These showcase how Palantir's AI has helped to improve supply chain management, operational efficiency, and patient care in healthcare, as presented during the AIPCon 5 back in September.Yet, more will need to come to justify its ballooning valuation.Commercial Segment Gaining MomentumAs we are just three weeks away from Palantir reporting its Q3 2024 earnings, let's just briefly look under the hood of Q2.In the second-quarter earnings report, Palantir exceeded Wall Street expectations on both the top and bottom lines and issued better-than-expected Q3 guidance, with the strong performance responsible for the red-hot year-to-date price performance.For Q2, Palantir reported GAAP earnings of $0.09/share, roughly an 80% YoY increase. Revenue rose 27% to $678M, beating analysts' estimates of $0.08 per share and $653M in revenue.Both the government and commercial businesses performed very well during the quarter. The government business generated $371M in revenue, up 23% from the analyst's estimates of $349M. Its commercial business has delivered even better performance, with 33% revenue growth and revenue at $307M, ahead of the forecast by $1M.Commercial revenue was significantly helped by a substantial 55% growth in US Commercial revenue, which reached $159M.Palantir's future depends on its success in growing its commercial segment, which is gaining momentum as the company strengthens its expansion into financial, healthcare, and energy, moving away from a government-dependent revenue structure.Even though government-based contracts are more guaranteed and less cyclical, most of the money is to be made in the commercial segment.In fact, CEO Alex Karp, in a letter to shareholders, highlighted that Palantir's US commercial customer base increased 83% year over year, from 161 customers in Q2 2023 to 295 as of Q2 2024, now making up half of the company's total customer base.Top & Bottom-Line Growth Do Not DisappointLooking forward, Palantir appears to be on a solid footing to continue delivering, with the firm's billing and remaining performance obligations (“RPO”) increasing 19% and 42% YoY, respectively.These two metrics serve for us as evidence of the strong demand for the underlying Palantir's software solutions. This is particularly as Palantir is facing higher demand than it can immediately serve, with customers very likely to stick around given Palantir's software's high switching costs.Thanks to the strong demand, Palantir's management has raised its outlook for FY24 with estimated 2024 sales of $2.75B and $970M in operating income, an increase from the previous expectations of $2.68B of revenue and $874M of operating income.Compared to full-FY23 revenue of $2.23B, this would represent a revenue growth of 23.3% with operating income expected to expand as much as 8x.Nonetheless, given the strong tailwinds the business is experiencing, particularly in the US commercial segment, I expect the company to beat even its revised guidance by the end of this year. I further expect another 20-23% annual revenue growth on tap in the subsequent years.Revenue Growth ExpectationsEven as many growth companies prioritize revenue growth, leaving profitability in the back seat or straight out failing to convert revenue into earnings, that's undoubtedly not Palantir's case.From what we can see below, Palantir's business became profitable on the operating level only in 2023, but operating income has continuously expanded, driven by higher revenue and margins.Revenue & Operating IncomePalantir's operating margins have been continuously improving. Thanks to the attractive unit economics the business can generate from the existing user base by upselling new products, I see margin expansion as the likely path for the company as it grows.Operating MarginValuation Might Act As An Anchor On Future ReturnsThe issue with Palantir's business is not the business itself, but the valuation—an issue we face as investors with most other high-quality companies.Let's first take a look at Palantir's Price-to-Sales valuation:Palantir's management expects the FY24 sales to land at $2.75B, which would imply a P/S ratio of 35x, given the $97B market cap.Analysts are expecting forward FY25 sales to land at $3.32B, a YoY growth of 22%, implying a 14-month forward P/S valuation of 29x.Now, the rich valuation, even for large-cap stock such as Palantir, would be justifiable if the company exhibited massive EPS expansion over the coming years.As per FactSet, analysts are forecasting Palantir's EPS to grow at the following rate:FY24 EPS: $0.35E, YoY growth: 42%FY25 EPS: $0.42E, YoY growth: 19%FY26 EPS: $0.51E, YoY growth: 21%.The growth we see above indeed categorizes Palantir's stock as a genuine growth company. Still, the 20% EPS growth expectations beyond FY24 are, from my perspective, not enough to justify the exuberant valuation the stock carries.Let's look at the following scenarios. How much does Palantir's bottom-line need to expand for the remainder of the decade to justify buying the shares at today's prices?In Scenario 1, if we assume the projected FY24, FY25, and FY26 growth materializes as expected by the analysts and the company grows its EPS at 30% annually for the remainder of the decade, Palantir would need to trade at least at 40x its P/E by the end of 2029 to just break-even on your money or negative real return, if adjusted per inflation.Scenario 1Given the non-existent margin of safety and uncertain future growth, I would aim for at least 20% ROR to justify buying Palantir's shares at today's valuation. If we stick to the same growth assumptions as above, Palantir's shares would need to trade at 100x its earnings by the end of 2029 if I required the stock to deliver at 20% annualized ROR.I am not saying Scenario 2 is impossible to materialize, but hoping for a 100x P/E valuation in 5.5 years is inherently uncertain and risky, and I do not like to bet allocate my heard-earned cash into uncertain promises.Scenario 2Naturally, it's possible that Palantir will beat expectations and grow its bottom line much quicker than expected. In Scenario 3, I am assuming 40% EPS growth between today and the end of 2029, a truly hyper-scaler if this growth materializes. However, even in that case, we would need to see the stock trading at around 50x its earnings if we aimed to achieve at least 16% annualized ROR.Scenario 3This indicates that it is critical to consider the perspective from which we examine Palantir's growth and valuation before making an investment decision.Forecasting Palantir's future growth is inherently uncertain, given its relatively short life as a public company.That's perhaps one reason why analysts' opinions on a short-term price target differ widely. However, the average price target is $27.7/share, implying a more than 30% downside from today's share price.Price TargetInvestor's TakeawayI believe Palantir is well-positioned for long-term success in the software industry, particularly in establishing itself as a leader in AI platforms. Its access to enterprise data is an excellent start for efficient AI data model learning, eventually building a competitive advantage.The company is helping government and commercial companies worldwide convert data into decisions, and Palantir is set to materially benefit from organizations' thirst for data-driven decision-making.I also expect Palantir's consumer footprint to materially increase over the coming years while the business benefits from unit economics, upselling its new product offerings to existing customers and improving profitability.Nevertheless, investors should be cautious about Palantir's valuation. The sky-high expectations are exposing investors to significant risks of permanent capital loss if the growth does not pan out as expected.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":334,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":359741992915064,"gmtCreate":1728868168673,"gmtModify":1728868172608,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Why Hold when this stock is blooming? Analysts like tis one basically are paid to kill the stock. Think carefully&nbsp;","listText":"Why Hold when this stock is blooming? Analysts like tis one basically are paid to kill the stock. Think carefully&nbsp;","text":"Why Hold when this stock is blooming? Analysts like tis one basically are paid to kill the stock. Think carefully","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/359741992915064","repostId":"2474181079","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2474181079","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1728677994,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2474181079?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-12 04:19","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Palantir's Higher Price Raises Risks","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2474181079","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Palantir's Q2 results show impressive 27% YoY revenue growth, driven by AI boom and accelerated sales through AIP Bootcamps.Despite strong financials, stock-based compensation poses dilution risks, an","content":"<html><body><ul><li>Palantir's Q2 results show impressive 27% YoY revenue growth, driven by AI boom and accelerated sales through AIP Bootcamps.</li><li>Despite strong financials, stock-based compensation poses dilution risks, and share repurchases may not sustain current stock price levels.</li><li>New product Warp Speed aims to revolutionize customer software, potentially boosting growth assumptions.</li><li>With this mixture of positives and negatives, I maintain my Hold rating until a better price cancels out the risky aspects.</li></ul><p><figure><picture> <img fetchpriority=\"high\" height=\"5773px\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) calc(100vw - 36px), (max-width: 1024px) calc(100vw - 132px), (max-width: 1200px) calc(66.6vw - 72px), 600px\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w750\" srcset=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w1536 1536w, https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w1280 1280w, https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w1080 1080w, https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w750 750w, https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w640 640w, https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w480 480w, https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w320 320w, https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg?io=getty-c-w240 240w\" width=\"8660px\"/> </picture><figcaption> <p>Klaus Vedfelt</p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>Palantir (<span>NYSE:PLTR</span>) is a stock I've twice covered. First I rated it a Sell, skeptical of what, I thought, was a nebulous AI-driven thesis and a lack of profitable history. Later, I re-rated it to<span> a Hold, concluding the following:</span></p> <blockquote><p>Palantir is an amazing company with red carpets rolling themselves out for it, as LLMs have unlocked the vast potential of their product, well ahead of almost anybody else.</p></blockquote> <p>Since then, the price of PLTR is up more than 70%.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-1728595421806024.png\"/> </picture><figcaption><p>PLTR Price Changes <span>(Seeking Alpha)</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>Q2 2024 results have also come out, so it's worth another check-up, to see how favorable the risk and reward are for an investment in PLTR. I maintain my Hold rating, but I do so from a place of greater caution, which I'll explain below.</p> <h2>Q2 Results</h2> <p>The second quarter continued to show growth in the wake of the AI boom, of which Palantir has been one of the clearest beneficiaries.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-1728596581823752.png\"/></span><figcaption><p><span>Q2 2024 Company Presentation</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>Revenue across the board grew 7% over the last quarter and 27% over the last year, an impressive result.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-172859669600054.png\"/></span><figcaption><p><span>Q2 2024 Company Presentation</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>The growth is supported by the continued benefit of the AIP Bootcamps, a newer sales experience that has greatly accelerated the sales process by allowing customers to see, more immediately, the material possibilities of Palantir's software. The timeline of the sales process has thus decreased from being many months down to, in some cases, days.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-17285972751201372.png\"/></span><figcaption><p>Cash Flow Statement <span>(Q2 2024 Form 10Q)</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>Looking at the cash flow statement, operating cash flows are about equal to the same period last year. One might wonder if Palantir's cash generation should look like this with so much revenue growth, but it's worth noting that significantly more Accounts Receivable have been booked. I trust that we will see most of this difference realized as cash generated within the near future.</p> <p>Altogether, growth is strong, and the company is in great financial shape.</p> <h2>Valuation and Risks</h2> <p>In my previous article, I gave a range of valuations to illustrate the possibilities for a fair value at a 10% discount rate (typical return of the market).</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/11/59452134-17286718946798897.png\"/> </picture><figcaption><p><span>Author's calculation</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>The above was based on the free cash flow per share, calculated based on 2023's total FCF, divided by the number of shares outstanding. The growth rates reflected the potential from the double-digit revenue growth that Palantir is currently experiencing.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/11/59452134-1728671923559932.png\"/> </picture><figcaption><p><span>Author's calculation</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>For the lower range, I offered a decreased CAGR of FCF of 5% for both halves of the decade, in light of the high levels of stock-based compensation (more on that later). Based on the updates from Q2, I don't see any compelling need to update the calculation, so I will let this stand.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/11/59452134-17286719503004942.png\"/> </picture><figcaption><p><span>Author's calculation</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>If one wants a fair price for something closer to a 7% return, then all they would need to do is modify the discount rate accordingly. Doing so gets us much closer to the current price. Again, this means the <em>risk</em> of accepting a lower return if one buys today.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-17286013814266045.png\"/></span><figcaption><p>PLTR Price History <span>(Seeking Alpha)</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>Shortly after the PLTR IPO, there was the 2021 bull market that peaked at $39 per share and a market cap of $67.94B. The price fell through 2022 and 2023, going below $7. The excitement for the stock died down.</p> <p>In 2021, I recall that many of PLTR's fans were just as convinced that the company would change the world, prior to all this talk of AI. Yet, confidence quickly petered out. Only very recently have those who bought at the 2021 peak started to break even and come out ahead.</p> <p>The fundamentals have since improved, as I've discussed over these three analyses, but the sensitivity of this stock to changes in information is apparent because <em>this company's future is so mysterious</em>. I would guess that many of PLTR's sternest believers have never actually had a chance to use the product that they make.</p> <p>There's another thing to consider as well. Thursday's closing price is $43.52 per share and a market cap of $96.59B. If we compare that to the peak in 2021, PLTR <em>the stock</em> is up 11.6%. <em>The market cap, however, is up 42.2%</em>. This is the risk posed by the stock-based compensation that I mentioned earlier.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-17286045506123195.png\"/></span><figcaption><p>Cash Flow Statement <span>(Q2 2024 Company Presentation)</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>If we look at the cash flow statement again (this time focusing on stock-based compensation), we see that the value of it is similar to the level of operating cash flows for the period.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-17286049473993692.png\"/></span><figcaption><p>Cash Flow Statement <span>(Q2 2024 Form 10Q)</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>Notice also that the exercise of these stock options occurs, and I believe they will likely continue into the future. Additionally, the company has begun repurchasing shares, a first in its public history, and the stock gains over the course of the year may be influenced by that.</p> <p>As the valuation is getting into their higher ranges, one has to consider what could happen if those buybacks were to abate. I worry that this could result in depreciation, for which some investors may not be prepared.</p> <h2>Mitigating Factors</h2> <p>Having said that, there's a lot going well for this company, a lot of value-creation, that is likely to support my high-growth assumptions going forward. I technically mentioned some in reviewing Q2 results, but I want to highlight an announcement they made, a new product offering called Warp Speed. I'll quote Chief Technology Officer Shyam Sankar from the Q2 earnings call:</p> <blockquote><p>...we conceive of it as an operating system for the modern American manufacturer. It touches not just ERP, but also MES, PLM, PLCs, it's interacting with the factory floor. We think there's an opportunity to reimagine this. I think the kind of congenital defect for most of this software, it was designed historically in the 70s for the CFO. Why would you do that? If you're starting over today, you would build software that was designed for the Head of Production...if you go to new manufacturers, the ones that are powering the reindustrialization of the country, they all know this. They're all alumni of the Tesla, SpaceX world where they built their own systems from scratch, principally because the other stuff doesn't work at all.</p></blockquote> <p>As they elaborated further throughout the call, Palantir believes it's positioned not only to provide better data analytics to its customers to improve operations; they believe entirely new software is needed. They believe the standard OS is used by several of the same companies, often with tremendous inefficiencies. Industrial capacity improves when the software fits the nature of the operations (a nature that Palantir's data analytics have unlocked for many customers).</p> <p>It's difficult to imagine the potential here, but if they can sell customers on the idea of it, I suspect it would cause my growth assumptions, which are already quite large, to increase significantly. If a company's operations can be fundamentally reimagined, the value of those contracts would likely be in the cards.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-17286062061788769.png\"/></span><figcaption><p><span>Q2 2024 Form 10Q</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>To add to that, Palantir maintains an incredibly healthy balance sheet, with about $4B in cash and marketable securities and no debt. This sucker ain't going bankrupt.</p> <p><figure contenteditable=\"false\"><span><img contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2024/10/10/59452134-1728606312297726.png\"/></span><figcaption><p>Revenue Breakdown <span>(Q2 2024 Form 10Q)</span></p></figcaption></figure></p> <p>As government contracts still make up a majority of revenues, this also protects against the downside of Palantir's future cash flows. Government contracts are less constrained by macroeconomic woes, and as trust is an important factor (many of these contracts pertain to military defense), I expect Palantir is unlikely to have competitors who enjoy a similarly healthy relationship.</p> <p>So in spite of the risks I mentioned, total loss doesn't appear to be among them.</p> <h2>Conclusion</h2> <p>Palantir continues to grow and stay one step ahead with innovation. It keeps growing each quarter and setting new records. The Warp Speed announcement is an exciting one, and it's not surprising the share price is up afterward.</p> <p>The long-term returns are what matter, however. A significant amount of share-based compensation continues to occur, threatening high levels of dilution as stock options are exercised in the future. Similarly, the company has recently started repurchasing shares, and a period where they see fit to cease this could be met with a major correction in price.</p> <div></div> <p>Palantir can still give positive returns over time, but it's becoming much more a game of risk management. As I would like a better price to accomplish this, I maintain my Hold rating.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir's Higher Price Raises Risks</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir's Higher Price Raises Risks\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-10-12 04:19 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4726286-palantirs-higher-price-raises-risks><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Palantir's Q2 results show impressive 27% YoY revenue growth, driven by AI boom and accelerated sales through AIP Bootcamps.Despite strong financials, stock-based compensation poses dilution risks, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4726286-palantirs-higher-price-raises-risks\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/1253986380/image_1253986380.jpg","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc.","BK4543":"AI","BK4547":"WSB热门概念","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","BK4588":"碎股","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","BK4023":"应用软件"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4726286-palantirs-higher-price-raises-risks","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2474181079","content_text":"Palantir's Q2 results show impressive 27% YoY revenue growth, driven by AI boom and accelerated sales through AIP Bootcamps.Despite strong financials, stock-based compensation poses dilution risks, and share repurchases may not sustain current stock price levels.New product Warp Speed aims to revolutionize customer software, potentially boosting growth assumptions.With this mixture of positives and negatives, I maintain my Hold rating until a better price cancels out the risky aspects.   Klaus Vedfelt Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) is a stock I've twice covered. First I rated it a Sell, skeptical of what, I thought, was a nebulous AI-driven thesis and a lack of profitable history. Later, I re-rated it to a Hold, concluding the following: Palantir is an amazing company with red carpets rolling themselves out for it, as LLMs have unlocked the vast potential of their product, well ahead of almost anybody else. Since then, the price of PLTR is up more than 70%.   PLTR Price Changes (Seeking Alpha) Q2 2024 results have also come out, so it's worth another check-up, to see how favorable the risk and reward are for an investment in PLTR. I maintain my Hold rating, but I do so from a place of greater caution, which I'll explain below. Q2 Results The second quarter continued to show growth in the wake of the AI boom, of which Palantir has been one of the clearest beneficiaries. Q2 2024 Company Presentation Revenue across the board grew 7% over the last quarter and 27% over the last year, an impressive result. Q2 2024 Company Presentation The growth is supported by the continued benefit of the AIP Bootcamps, a newer sales experience that has greatly accelerated the sales process by allowing customers to see, more immediately, the material possibilities of Palantir's software. The timeline of the sales process has thus decreased from being many months down to, in some cases, days. Cash Flow Statement (Q2 2024 Form 10Q) Looking at the cash flow statement, operating cash flows are about equal to the same period last year. One might wonder if Palantir's cash generation should look like this with so much revenue growth, but it's worth noting that significantly more Accounts Receivable have been booked. I trust that we will see most of this difference realized as cash generated within the near future. Altogether, growth is strong, and the company is in great financial shape. Valuation and Risks In my previous article, I gave a range of valuations to illustrate the possibilities for a fair value at a 10% discount rate (typical return of the market).   Author's calculation The above was based on the free cash flow per share, calculated based on 2023's total FCF, divided by the number of shares outstanding. The growth rates reflected the potential from the double-digit revenue growth that Palantir is currently experiencing.   Author's calculation For the lower range, I offered a decreased CAGR of FCF of 5% for both halves of the decade, in light of the high levels of stock-based compensation (more on that later). Based on the updates from Q2, I don't see any compelling need to update the calculation, so I will let this stand.   Author's calculation If one wants a fair price for something closer to a 7% return, then all they would need to do is modify the discount rate accordingly. Doing so gets us much closer to the current price. Again, this means the risk of accepting a lower return if one buys today. PLTR Price History (Seeking Alpha) Shortly after the PLTR IPO, there was the 2021 bull market that peaked at $39 per share and a market cap of $67.94B. The price fell through 2022 and 2023, going below $7. The excitement for the stock died down. In 2021, I recall that many of PLTR's fans were just as convinced that the company would change the world, prior to all this talk of AI. Yet, confidence quickly petered out. Only very recently have those who bought at the 2021 peak started to break even and come out ahead. The fundamentals have since improved, as I've discussed over these three analyses, but the sensitivity of this stock to changes in information is apparent because this company's future is so mysterious. I would guess that many of PLTR's sternest believers have never actually had a chance to use the product that they make. There's another thing to consider as well. Thursday's closing price is $43.52 per share and a market cap of $96.59B. If we compare that to the peak in 2021, PLTR the stock is up 11.6%. The market cap, however, is up 42.2%. This is the risk posed by the stock-based compensation that I mentioned earlier. Cash Flow Statement (Q2 2024 Company Presentation) If we look at the cash flow statement again (this time focusing on stock-based compensation), we see that the value of it is similar to the level of operating cash flows for the period. Cash Flow Statement (Q2 2024 Form 10Q) Notice also that the exercise of these stock options occurs, and I believe they will likely continue into the future. Additionally, the company has begun repurchasing shares, a first in its public history, and the stock gains over the course of the year may be influenced by that. As the valuation is getting into their higher ranges, one has to consider what could happen if those buybacks were to abate. I worry that this could result in depreciation, for which some investors may not be prepared. Mitigating Factors Having said that, there's a lot going well for this company, a lot of value-creation, that is likely to support my high-growth assumptions going forward. I technically mentioned some in reviewing Q2 results, but I want to highlight an announcement they made, a new product offering called Warp Speed. I'll quote Chief Technology Officer Shyam Sankar from the Q2 earnings call: ...we conceive of it as an operating system for the modern American manufacturer. It touches not just ERP, but also MES, PLM, PLCs, it's interacting with the factory floor. We think there's an opportunity to reimagine this. I think the kind of congenital defect for most of this software, it was designed historically in the 70s for the CFO. Why would you do that? If you're starting over today, you would build software that was designed for the Head of Production...if you go to new manufacturers, the ones that are powering the reindustrialization of the country, they all know this. They're all alumni of the Tesla, SpaceX world where they built their own systems from scratch, principally because the other stuff doesn't work at all. As they elaborated further throughout the call, Palantir believes it's positioned not only to provide better data analytics to its customers to improve operations; they believe entirely new software is needed. They believe the standard OS is used by several of the same companies, often with tremendous inefficiencies. Industrial capacity improves when the software fits the nature of the operations (a nature that Palantir's data analytics have unlocked for many customers). It's difficult to imagine the potential here, but if they can sell customers on the idea of it, I suspect it would cause my growth assumptions, which are already quite large, to increase significantly. If a company's operations can be fundamentally reimagined, the value of those contracts would likely be in the cards. Q2 2024 Form 10Q To add to that, Palantir maintains an incredibly healthy balance sheet, with about $4B in cash and marketable securities and no debt. This sucker ain't going bankrupt. Revenue Breakdown (Q2 2024 Form 10Q) As government contracts still make up a majority of revenues, this also protects against the downside of Palantir's future cash flows. Government contracts are less constrained by macroeconomic woes, and as trust is an important factor (many of these contracts pertain to military defense), I expect Palantir is unlikely to have competitors who enjoy a similarly healthy relationship. So in spite of the risks I mentioned, total loss doesn't appear to be among them. Conclusion Palantir continues to grow and stay one step ahead with innovation. It keeps growing each quarter and setting new records. The Warp Speed announcement is an exciting one, and it's not surprising the share price is up afterward. The long-term returns are what matter, however. A significant amount of share-based compensation continues to occur, threatening high levels of dilution as stock options are exercised in the future. Similarly, the company has recently started repurchasing shares, and a period where they see fit to cease this could be met with a major correction in price.  Palantir can still give positive returns over time, but it's becoming much more a game of risk management. As I would like a better price to accomplish this, I maintain my Hold rating.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":140,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":358112358486256,"gmtCreate":1728450180500,"gmtModify":1728450184906,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So this is how analysts create such reports for shorts? dont be fooled","listText":"So this is how analysts create such reports for shorts? dont be fooled","text":"So this is how analysts create such reports for shorts? dont be fooled","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/358112358486256","repostId":"1121241119","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1121241119","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1728446400,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1121241119?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-09 12:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Will Palantir Stock Hit the $50 Mark?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1121241119","media":"Barchart","summary":"Palantir has been one of the best-performing large-cap stocks in 2024, registering astellar gain of about 141.1% year-to-date, far exceeding the S&P 500 Index's gain of 20.6%. Palantir’s meteoric rise","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Palantir has been one of the best-performing large-cap stocks in 2024, registering a stellar gain of about 141.1% year-to-date, far exceeding the S&amp;P 500 Index&#39;s gain of 20.6%. Palantir’s meteoric rise is largely fueled by soaring demand for its Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP).</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In addition to solid demand for its products, Palantir’s recent entry in the S&amp;P 500 provided another boost to its stock price.  </p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5829831573ce1281091d469af518587c\" tg-width=\"841\" tg-height=\"586\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Although Palantir stock has already gained substantially year-to-date, at least one Wall Street analyst expects the enterprise software company’s stock to reach $50, the Street-high price target. Let’s explore why. </p><h3 id=\"id_848876551\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Palantir’s Solid Growth Could Boost Stock</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Palantir has been firing on all cylinders with solid momentum in its U.S. commercial and government businesses. With stellar sales growth and strong unit economics, which are expanding its operating margin, Palantir stock could rise further. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In the second quarter of 2024, the company’s top line jumped 27% year-over-year and 7% sequentially. What stands out is that Palantir’s revenue growth has been accelerating steadily over the past several quarters, driven by the increasing adoption of artificial intelligence (AI) in the enterprise software market. Further, the company delivered this tremendous top-line growth while expanding its adjusted operating margin to 37%, highlighting its solid underlying unit economics.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A key contributor to this growth is Palantir’s AIP, which has been instrumental in securing large contracts. In Q2 2024 alone, the company landed 27 deals valued at $10 million or more, resulting in a total contract value (TCV) of nearly $1 billion. Notably, a significant portion of these contracts are from existing customers, which shows its ability to drive customer retention and higher average revenue per customer. </p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Customer numbers also continue to grow. Palantir’s customer base increased by 41% year-over-year, reaching 593 by the end of the second quarter. Revenue from its top 20 customers grew 9% from the previous year, generating an average of $57 million per customer.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">By segments, the U.S. commercial business has been a significant driver of Palantir’s growth. In Q2 2024, the company’s U.S. commercial revenue soared by 33% compared to last year&#39;s quarter. Additionally, this segment&#39;s annual contract value (ACV) grew by 44% year-over-year. The high demand for Palantir’s AIP solutions from new and existing clients sets the stage for future growth.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Palantir’s government segment is also thriving. Government-related revenue increased by 23% year-over-year and 11% sequentially. The rising demand for Palantir’s government software offerings suggests further growth potential in this area.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Overall, Palantir’s solid momentum across its U.S. commercial and government segments, strong unit economics, higher adoption of AIP, and notable increases in contract value and customer count will likely support the uptrend in the stock.</p><h3 id=\"id_21246882\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Palantir’s Key Metrics Remain Strong </h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Palantir is demonstrating solid growth, with key performance indicators pointing to continued strength. By the end of Q2 2024, the company’s total remaining deal value reached $4.3 billion, a 26% increase year-over-year. Moreover, its remaining performance obligations, an indicator of future revenue, surged by 41% to $1.4 billion.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Palantir’s net dollar retention rate also improved by 300 basis points to 114%, highlighting its ability to maintain revenue from existing customers.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Looking ahead, Palantir&#39;s focus on AI and the growing AI-driven enterprise market presents significant growth opportunities. The recent launch of Warp Speed, a modern manufacturing operating system, is expected to further accelerate its growth.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With strong operating metrics, a growing customer base, and new product launches, Palantir is well-positioned to deliver solid growth in the upcoming quarters.</p><h3 id=\"id_3158193439\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Can PLTR Stock Hit $50 Per Share?</h3><p style=\"text-align: start;\">PLTR’s performance in 2024 has been impressive, and the company shows no signs of slowing down. With its AI platform continuing to attract new customers and larger deals from existing ones, Palantir is positioned for further growth. Its strong unit economics, increasing contract value, and expanding customer base all point to continued momentum in the stock.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">However, for PLTR stock to hit the $50 mark, it would need to rise by another 20.6% from its current price. While the company&#39;s growth story is compelling, much of the optimism is already baked into the stock price. Palantir&#39;s price-to-sales (P/S) ratio currently stands at an eye-popping 31.58, significantly higher than its historical average and the sector median of 2.9. This lofty valuation is a primary reason why most analysts don’t foresee the stock reaching $50 anytime soon.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/554aa6f7a38cb96d9bb1bba7236d4a13\" tg-width=\"831\" tg-height=\"742\"/></p><p>Palantir stock has a “Moderate Sell” consensus rating among analysts, and Wall Street&#39;s average price target is $25.87. This suggests a potential downside of about 37.6% from current levels.</p></body></html>","source":"barchart_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will Palantir Stock Hit the $50 Mark?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWill Palantir Stock Hit the $50 Mark?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-10-09 12:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barchart.com/story/news/28946043/will-palantir-stock-hit-the-50-mark><strong>Barchart</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Palantir has been one of the best-performing large-cap stocks in 2024, registering a stellar gain of about 141.1% year-to-date, far exceeding the S&P 500 Index's gain of 20.6%. Palantir’s meteoric ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barchart.com/story/news/28946043/will-palantir-stock-hit-the-50-mark\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.barchart.com/story/news/28946043/will-palantir-stock-hit-the-50-mark","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1121241119","content_text":"Palantir has been one of the best-performing large-cap stocks in 2024, registering a stellar gain of about 141.1% year-to-date, far exceeding the S&P 500 Index's gain of 20.6%. Palantir’s meteoric rise is largely fueled by soaring demand for its Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP).In addition to solid demand for its products, Palantir’s recent entry in the S&P 500 provided another boost to its stock price.  Although Palantir stock has already gained substantially year-to-date, at least one Wall Street analyst expects the enterprise software company’s stock to reach $50, the Street-high price target. Let’s explore why. Palantir’s Solid Growth Could Boost StockPalantir has been firing on all cylinders with solid momentum in its U.S. commercial and government businesses. With stellar sales growth and strong unit economics, which are expanding its operating margin, Palantir stock could rise further. In the second quarter of 2024, the company’s top line jumped 27% year-over-year and 7% sequentially. What stands out is that Palantir’s revenue growth has been accelerating steadily over the past several quarters, driven by the increasing adoption of artificial intelligence (AI) in the enterprise software market. Further, the company delivered this tremendous top-line growth while expanding its adjusted operating margin to 37%, highlighting its solid underlying unit economics.A key contributor to this growth is Palantir’s AIP, which has been instrumental in securing large contracts. In Q2 2024 alone, the company landed 27 deals valued at $10 million or more, resulting in a total contract value (TCV) of nearly $1 billion. Notably, a significant portion of these contracts are from existing customers, which shows its ability to drive customer retention and higher average revenue per customer. Customer numbers also continue to grow. Palantir’s customer base increased by 41% year-over-year, reaching 593 by the end of the second quarter. Revenue from its top 20 customers grew 9% from the previous year, generating an average of $57 million per customer.By segments, the U.S. commercial business has been a significant driver of Palantir’s growth. In Q2 2024, the company’s U.S. commercial revenue soared by 33% compared to last year's quarter. Additionally, this segment's annual contract value (ACV) grew by 44% year-over-year. The high demand for Palantir’s AIP solutions from new and existing clients sets the stage for future growth.Palantir’s government segment is also thriving. Government-related revenue increased by 23% year-over-year and 11% sequentially. The rising demand for Palantir’s government software offerings suggests further growth potential in this area.Overall, Palantir’s solid momentum across its U.S. commercial and government segments, strong unit economics, higher adoption of AIP, and notable increases in contract value and customer count will likely support the uptrend in the stock.Palantir’s Key Metrics Remain Strong Palantir is demonstrating solid growth, with key performance indicators pointing to continued strength. By the end of Q2 2024, the company’s total remaining deal value reached $4.3 billion, a 26% increase year-over-year. Moreover, its remaining performance obligations, an indicator of future revenue, surged by 41% to $1.4 billion.Palantir’s net dollar retention rate also improved by 300 basis points to 114%, highlighting its ability to maintain revenue from existing customers.Looking ahead, Palantir's focus on AI and the growing AI-driven enterprise market presents significant growth opportunities. The recent launch of Warp Speed, a modern manufacturing operating system, is expected to further accelerate its growth.With strong operating metrics, a growing customer base, and new product launches, Palantir is well-positioned to deliver solid growth in the upcoming quarters.Can PLTR Stock Hit $50 Per Share?PLTR’s performance in 2024 has been impressive, and the company shows no signs of slowing down. With its AI platform continuing to attract new customers and larger deals from existing ones, Palantir is positioned for further growth. Its strong unit economics, increasing contract value, and expanding customer base all point to continued momentum in the stock.However, for PLTR stock to hit the $50 mark, it would need to rise by another 20.6% from its current price. While the company's growth story is compelling, much of the optimism is already baked into the stock price. Palantir's price-to-sales (P/S) ratio currently stands at an eye-popping 31.58, significantly higher than its historical average and the sector median of 2.9. This lofty valuation is a primary reason why most analysts don’t foresee the stock reaching $50 anytime soon.Palantir stock has a “Moderate Sell” consensus rating among analysts, and Wall Street's average price target is $25.87. 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Cos he is pushing for a shorts","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/356007818223920","repostId":"1152240833","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1152240833","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1727839335,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1152240833?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-10-02 11:22","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir's Valuation Is A Lord Of The Rings Fantasy","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1152240833","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Does Palantir have the attributes of a premium-valued company?","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_3527223762\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir was one of my highest-ranking companies in a SaaS screen I created. The company’s “perfect on paper” with strong metrics, rapid revenue growth, rising margins and huge TAM.</p></li><li><p>Qualitatively, Palantir has a huge moat, compelling narrative and clear mission-statement.</p></li><li><p>The “black box” nature of the company’s services and its controversial CEO give me pause.</p></li><li><p>Valuation measures are off-the-charts overvalued and its entry into the S&amp;P 500 could be viewed as the “Inclusion Curse”.</p></li></ul><h2 id=\"id_290446489\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Thesis</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">A few months back, I published an SA article entitled Screening for the Best SaaS Companies, in which I screened for the best SaaS companies out of a pool of 84 names. Palantir was the 10th highest-ranked company. The ranking was based on specialized metrics used by venture capitalists. This article’s goal is to concurrently convince you that Palantir is a great company but a terrible stock.</p><h2 id=\"id_56834654\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Introduction</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) is an AI optimized company that helps organizations collect, normalize and utilize all forms of data so that organizations can make decisions. The company operates under two platforms: Gotham (for governments) and Foundry (for businesses) and more recently introduced Apollo which is a system that manages both Gotham and Foundry. Palantir was named after the mystical seeing stones in Lord of the Rings.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Given the controversies over Palantir’s business and its stock’s valuation, I was both intrigued and motivated to look into this. I rarely give “Sell” recommendations except when I see clear-cut accounting or business model issues. Palantir would be the exception!</p><h2 id=\"id_2970024773\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Does Palantir have the attributes of a premium-valued company?</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">I’ll cut to the chase and say a “clear YES.” Palantir has several of these highly valued metrics, both qualitative and quantitative. <strong>Quantitatively</strong> they include:</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Access to a large and growing TAM (see Business Position section below) Strong Net Retention Rate (114% in 2Q’24, +400bps y/y) High gross margins and strong Unit Economics A history of earnings “beats &amp; raises” High and growing Rule of 40 (Revenue growth + FCF Margin)</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/64292e93129a51dcf5e39b2964dbd414\" alt=\"Rule of 40\" title=\"Rule of 40\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"295\"/><span>Rule of 40</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Qualitatively</strong> premium companies have a:</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Compelling Narrative and Mission Statement Strong business position and high entry barriers Unique service and clear value proposition High Net Promotor Scores (NPS) albeit Palantir’s 33 isn’t the highest. Diversifying customer-base Manageable risks Visionary leadership.</p><h2 id=\"id_2205772897\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Recent financial performance</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Several SA contributors (such as The Techie) did a superb job at analyzing Palantir’s recent earnings results, so I won’t repeat them here. The TLDR is that 2Q’24’s earnings were great – represented by a bottom &amp; top-line “beat &amp; raise.” In fact, revenue growth is accelerating (see chart below).</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/556d1910e41b4b5686ee21aacafd12b6\" alt=\"Growth\" title=\"Growth\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"342\"/><span>Growth</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The Commercial business segment, which was introduced subsequent to Palantir’s government business, started gaining momentum in late 2023 and demonstrates continued expansion and diversification (see Table).</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/01bf04273ebe82caddea7ff7103dc00b\" alt=\"growth of govt vs business\" title=\"growth of govt vs business\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"236\"/><span>growth of govt vs business</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h2 id=\"id_4274965912\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Business position and TAM</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Palantir has a strong business position (up and to the right) as measured by Forrester’s Wave for AI and Machine Learning. Palantir estimated (in its S-1 filing) its TAM to be huge at$120BN. However, that estimate was previous to ChatGPT. Now, analysts such as Wedbush’s Dan Ives think its TAM could hit$1 trillion. This is an even larger opportunity-set (meaning Palantir’s revenue scale vs its TAM) than Nvidia’s (NVDA)!</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1b353ea026bd9a46752960b44d03afb5\" alt=\"Forrester Wave\" title=\"Forrester Wave\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"634\"/><span>Forrester Wave</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h2 id=\"id_740308643\" style=\"text-align: left;\">The many controversies of Karp</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">When I analyze companies and founders, I always seek out opposing opinions to test my thesis. Palantir is “perfect on paper” however, there is circumstantial and anecdotal information that worries me. Palantir and Karp remind me of Tesla (TSLA) and Musk: two highly controversial figures surrounded by controversies. Without one, there isn’t the other.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Alex Karp has never shied away from controversy. He is extremely pro-American and has picked winners &amp; losers in the geopolitical chess game. These aren’t opinions without consequences - Palantir has provided AI and data analytics services to the U.S. intelligence agencies and military. Palantir has also been criticized for helping ICE (Immigration and Custom Enforcement) deport immigrants. Given the “black box” nature of Palantir’s business, it is not known if privacy and human rights are being violated.</p><h2 id=\"id_1430941454\" style=\"text-align: left;\">ESG and Glassdoor reviews</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Despite the recent blowback in ESG and socially responsible investing, I consider it a key factor in investing as it helps to authentically align my values with investments. I rely on MSCI’s ESG ratings, of which Palantir is rated “B” Laggard within the software industry (see chart). I not only weigh Glassdoor’s ratings to broadly determine the “Social” factor of companies but to determine quality of management and culture. Palantir’s Glassdoor CEO approval rating is amongst the lowest (65%) that I’ve ever seen within the software space (chart below). Even Morningstar, which rarely has an unkind thing to say about management, stated that it “lacks confidence in the executive team” given that Palantir “recklessly” lost $300MM in SPAC investments, whereby those portfolio companies would be expected to purchase Palantir’s services. Speaking of odd holdings, Palantir had invested $51MM in gold bars in 2021 just in case there was a “Black Swan” event.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ff09024a6445988f355c059edd4d83b5\" alt=\"ESG rating\" title=\"ESG rating\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"552\"/><span>ESG rating</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ed69bad5a5a9a8d18349c713a9135861\" alt=\"Glassdoor Ratings\" title=\"Glassdoor Ratings\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"494\"/><span>Glassdoor Ratings</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h3 id=\"id_4125998872\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Other anecdotal evidence of a top in Palantir’s stock price:</h3><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Parabolic moves in the stock price combined with overhead resistance (see chart) Heavy Insider Selling, especially from the CEO and founders (Peter Thiel and Alex Karp) Concerns from several SA contributors A seasonally weak period for Palantir as well as risk-assets in general (chart) The S&amp;P 500 “Inclusion Curse” The CEO’s continued “shelling” of the company wherever he speaks.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/38089939e23649bf966afd9cf0635e7c\" alt=\"Insider buying selling\" title=\"Insider buying selling\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"282\"/><span>Insider buying selling</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/20e97590ee62b9fc7529915c2c63e09b\" alt=\"stock chart\" title=\"stock chart\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"295\"/><span>stock chart</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h2 id=\"id_3704377079\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Seasonality</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Besides trendlines, I’m a believer that sentiment and seasonality are proven contributors to a stock’s performance. Equities continue to remain in a seasonally weak period and Palantir has historically shown weakness during the Autumn period (see chart).</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/8dcd4a3cd16e8c17eed053e473903575\" alt=\"seasonality of share price moves\" title=\"seasonality of share price moves\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"233\"/><span>seasonality of share price moves</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h2 id=\"id_3959597449\" style=\"text-align: left;\">S&amp;P 500 “Inclusion Curse”</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">On 9/6/2024, S&amp;P Global announced that Palantir would join the S&amp;P 500 on 9/23/2024. Shares rose 7% in after-hours trading on excitement that passive asset managers would be required to purchase its shares. However, studies have shown that any positive stock price gains during said announcements tend to lose their effectiveness over time. A S&amp;P Dow Jones LLC study shows this in the chart below. I would argue that the effect has intensified since the study’s 2021 cut-off date. It also follows that this underperformance is likely to intensify when the inclusion date is around the S&amp;P 500’s all-time-highs (as is the case now). I think most readers recall the excitement about Tesla (TSLA) entering the S&amp;P 500 in Dec’20, to which the shares have underperformed since.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/51566a7b8ebb73341286941672c19b36\" alt=\"S&amp;P 500 inclusion study\" title=\"S&amp;P 500 inclusion study\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"292\"/><span>S&amp;P 500 inclusion study</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h2 id=\"id_1115392343\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Valuation</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Palantir’s shares are over-valued using a multitude of metrics as presented in the table below. If one were to normalize Palantir’s valuation, shares could decline about 80% - a huge amount ! (Note that I use an “Adjusted Overvaluation” metric to eliminate duplicates and outliers).</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/452f2e7c905620a59d8661bbae6fee2e\" alt=\"Valuation multiples\" title=\"Valuation multiples\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"375\"/><span>Valuation multiples</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h2 id=\"id_1550243359\" style=\"text-align: left;\">The best valuation method</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">However, I would like to focus on <strong>EV/forward Revenues</strong> to determine what premium PLTR’s shares should trade at. Palantir’s EV/forward Rev. multiple, at <strong>28.6x</strong> is significantly above the 5.5x for the BVP NASDAQ Cloud Index. However, that 5.5x multiple is for the “average” company, not superstar Palantir. We would need to compare PLTR’s multiple with a regression line of forward revenue growth.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Palantir shares trade above the regression line (28.6x versus the regression point of 12x) of revenue growth versus EV/forward Revenue multiples for the largest, best positioned SaaS companies as compiled by Bessemer Venture Partners. It is also above Meritech Capital’s SaaS regression line (regression point: 16x). (Note: it’s worth repeating that I not only compare PLTR to the average SaaS company, but to the largest premium names as well as those companies growing at a similar rate.)</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Based on the above analysis, Palantir’s shares could drop to around <strong>$20/share</strong> or 40-45% from current levels during this Bull market, and far lower if there’s a correction.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/02640f4bc9ec9be1dfa0c8a2e2eaf399\" alt=\"EV to Revenue multiples\" title=\"EV to Revenue multiples\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"329\"/><span>EV to Revenue multiples</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"></p><h2 id=\"id_2642030854\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Conclusion:</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">I won&#39;t mince words. I have never had a good gut feeling about Palantir. It feels like a stock with a cult-like following. Now that I’ve done a deeper analysis, I stand by those feelings with concrete evidence and anecdotal findings. There are several top-performing SaaS companies to choose from. Palantir is the only company I would avoid, hence my &#34;<strong>Strong</strong> <strong>Sell”</strong> rating.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir's Valuation Is A Lord Of The Rings Fantasy</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir's Valuation Is A Lord Of The Rings Fantasy\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-10-02 11:22 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4724450-palantir-s-valuation-is-lord-of-rings-fantasy><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryPalantir was one of my highest-ranking companies in a SaaS screen I created. The company’s “perfect on paper” with strong metrics, rapid revenue growth, rising margins and huge TAM....</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4724450-palantir-s-valuation-is-lord-of-rings-fantasy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4724450-palantir-s-valuation-is-lord-of-rings-fantasy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1152240833","content_text":"SummaryPalantir was one of my highest-ranking companies in a SaaS screen I created. The company’s “perfect on paper” with strong metrics, rapid revenue growth, rising margins and huge TAM.Qualitatively, Palantir has a huge moat, compelling narrative and clear mission-statement.The “black box” nature of the company’s services and its controversial CEO give me pause.Valuation measures are off-the-charts overvalued and its entry into the S&P 500 could be viewed as the “Inclusion Curse”.ThesisA few months back, I published an SA article entitled Screening for the Best SaaS Companies, in which I screened for the best SaaS companies out of a pool of 84 names. Palantir was the 10th highest-ranked company. The ranking was based on specialized metrics used by venture capitalists. This article’s goal is to concurrently convince you that Palantir is a great company but a terrible stock.IntroductionPalantir (NYSE:PLTR) is an AI optimized company that helps organizations collect, normalize and utilize all forms of data so that organizations can make decisions. The company operates under two platforms: Gotham (for governments) and Foundry (for businesses) and more recently introduced Apollo which is a system that manages both Gotham and Foundry. Palantir was named after the mystical seeing stones in Lord of the Rings.Given the controversies over Palantir’s business and its stock’s valuation, I was both intrigued and motivated to look into this. I rarely give “Sell” recommendations except when I see clear-cut accounting or business model issues. Palantir would be the exception!Does Palantir have the attributes of a premium-valued company?I’ll cut to the chase and say a “clear YES.” Palantir has several of these highly valued metrics, both qualitative and quantitative. Quantitatively they include:Access to a large and growing TAM (see Business Position section below) Strong Net Retention Rate (114% in 2Q’24, +400bps y/y) High gross margins and strong Unit Economics A history of earnings “beats & raises” High and growing Rule of 40 (Revenue growth + FCF Margin)Rule of 40Qualitatively premium companies have a:Compelling Narrative and Mission Statement Strong business position and high entry barriers Unique service and clear value proposition High Net Promotor Scores (NPS) albeit Palantir’s 33 isn’t the highest. Diversifying customer-base Manageable risks Visionary leadership.Recent financial performanceSeveral SA contributors (such as The Techie) did a superb job at analyzing Palantir’s recent earnings results, so I won’t repeat them here. The TLDR is that 2Q’24’s earnings were great – represented by a bottom & top-line “beat & raise.” In fact, revenue growth is accelerating (see chart below).GrowthThe Commercial business segment, which was introduced subsequent to Palantir’s government business, started gaining momentum in late 2023 and demonstrates continued expansion and diversification (see Table).growth of govt vs businessBusiness position and TAMPalantir has a strong business position (up and to the right) as measured by Forrester’s Wave for AI and Machine Learning. Palantir estimated (in its S-1 filing) its TAM to be huge at$120BN. However, that estimate was previous to ChatGPT. Now, analysts such as Wedbush’s Dan Ives think its TAM could hit$1 trillion. This is an even larger opportunity-set (meaning Palantir’s revenue scale vs its TAM) than Nvidia’s (NVDA)!Forrester WaveThe many controversies of KarpWhen I analyze companies and founders, I always seek out opposing opinions to test my thesis. Palantir is “perfect on paper” however, there is circumstantial and anecdotal information that worries me. Palantir and Karp remind me of Tesla (TSLA) and Musk: two highly controversial figures surrounded by controversies. Without one, there isn’t the other.Alex Karp has never shied away from controversy. He is extremely pro-American and has picked winners & losers in the geopolitical chess game. These aren’t opinions without consequences - Palantir has provided AI and data analytics services to the U.S. intelligence agencies and military. Palantir has also been criticized for helping ICE (Immigration and Custom Enforcement) deport immigrants. Given the “black box” nature of Palantir’s business, it is not known if privacy and human rights are being violated.ESG and Glassdoor reviewsDespite the recent blowback in ESG and socially responsible investing, I consider it a key factor in investing as it helps to authentically align my values with investments. I rely on MSCI’s ESG ratings, of which Palantir is rated “B” Laggard within the software industry (see chart). I not only weigh Glassdoor’s ratings to broadly determine the “Social” factor of companies but to determine quality of management and culture. Palantir’s Glassdoor CEO approval rating is amongst the lowest (65%) that I’ve ever seen within the software space (chart below). Even Morningstar, which rarely has an unkind thing to say about management, stated that it “lacks confidence in the executive team” given that Palantir “recklessly” lost $300MM in SPAC investments, whereby those portfolio companies would be expected to purchase Palantir’s services. Speaking of odd holdings, Palantir had invested $51MM in gold bars in 2021 just in case there was a “Black Swan” event.ESG ratingGlassdoor RatingsOther anecdotal evidence of a top in Palantir’s stock price:Parabolic moves in the stock price combined with overhead resistance (see chart) Heavy Insider Selling, especially from the CEO and founders (Peter Thiel and Alex Karp) Concerns from several SA contributors A seasonally weak period for Palantir as well as risk-assets in general (chart) The S&P 500 “Inclusion Curse” The CEO’s continued “shelling” of the company wherever he speaks.Insider buying sellingstock chartSeasonalityBesides trendlines, I’m a believer that sentiment and seasonality are proven contributors to a stock’s performance. Equities continue to remain in a seasonally weak period and Palantir has historically shown weakness during the Autumn period (see chart).seasonality of share price movesS&P 500 “Inclusion Curse”On 9/6/2024, S&P Global announced that Palantir would join the S&P 500 on 9/23/2024. Shares rose 7% in after-hours trading on excitement that passive asset managers would be required to purchase its shares. However, studies have shown that any positive stock price gains during said announcements tend to lose their effectiveness over time. A S&P Dow Jones LLC study shows this in the chart below. I would argue that the effect has intensified since the study’s 2021 cut-off date. It also follows that this underperformance is likely to intensify when the inclusion date is around the S&P 500’s all-time-highs (as is the case now). I think most readers recall the excitement about Tesla (TSLA) entering the S&P 500 in Dec’20, to which the shares have underperformed since.S&P 500 inclusion studyValuationPalantir’s shares are over-valued using a multitude of metrics as presented in the table below. If one were to normalize Palantir’s valuation, shares could decline about 80% - a huge amount ! (Note that I use an “Adjusted Overvaluation” metric to eliminate duplicates and outliers).Valuation multiplesThe best valuation methodHowever, I would like to focus on EV/forward Revenues to determine what premium PLTR’s shares should trade at. Palantir’s EV/forward Rev. multiple, at 28.6x is significantly above the 5.5x for the BVP NASDAQ Cloud Index. However, that 5.5x multiple is for the “average” company, not superstar Palantir. We would need to compare PLTR’s multiple with a regression line of forward revenue growth.Palantir shares trade above the regression line (28.6x versus the regression point of 12x) of revenue growth versus EV/forward Revenue multiples for the largest, best positioned SaaS companies as compiled by Bessemer Venture Partners. It is also above Meritech Capital’s SaaS regression line (regression point: 16x). (Note: it’s worth repeating that I not only compare PLTR to the average SaaS company, but to the largest premium names as well as those companies growing at a similar rate.)Based on the above analysis, Palantir’s shares could drop to around $20/share or 40-45% from current levels during this Bull market, and far lower if there’s a correction.EV to Revenue multiplesConclusion:I won't mince words. I have never had a good gut feeling about Palantir. It feels like a stock with a cult-like following. Now that I’ve done a deeper analysis, I stand by those feelings with concrete evidence and anecdotal findings. There are several top-performing SaaS companies to choose from. Palantir is the only company I would avoid, hence my \"Strong Sell” rating.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":303,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":333071266549792,"gmtCreate":1722344252456,"gmtModify":1722344256510,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Suddenly these people are asking us to buy Tsla! Few weeks ago was...Dont buy! Its a dead stock","listText":"Suddenly these people are asking us to buy Tsla! Few weeks ago was...Dont buy! Its a dead stock","text":"Suddenly these people are asking us to buy Tsla! Few weeks ago was...Dont buy! Its a dead stock","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/333071266549792","repostId":"2455963846","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2455963846","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1722311429,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2455963846?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-30 11:50","market":"fut","language":"en","title":"6 Reasons To Buy Tesla","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2455963846","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"But here's why I think things will only get better from here:  First, Q1 might be the trough. While Total Deliveries were down YoY, it actually increased QoQ, implying an improvement in overall consumer sentiment. Furthermore, management expects a sequential increase in production in Q3. Second, the Fed is expected to cut rates later this year, which could spark an influx of demand for Tesla vehicles - I think many consumers are waiting on the sidelines anticipating falling interest rates, which will improve overall affordability. Third, when we finally do get rate cuts, Tesla should be able to gradually increase ASPs as demand recovers, which should be a net positive for","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla, Inc. just reported Q2 earnings that sent the stock lower by 12% — perhaps, this could be a buying opportunity.</p></li><li><p>In this article, I will highlight six reasons to buy Tesla stock.</p></li><li><p>At the same time, I will briefly mention five reasons to sell the stock.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3b347b74f00b772eef5f61a7e739acb6\" tg-width=\"594\" tg-height=\"396\"/></p><p>Apu Gomes/Getty Images News</p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_2764249603\">Introduction</h2><p>As it has always been with <strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA), the stock has had a volatile quarter, swinging nearly 100% from its bottom of $140 to its recent high of $270.</p><p>And recently, the company reported Q2 earnings that sent the stock diving 12% the following day, which is coincidentally how the stock has performed this year so far.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/68dcdce138caf3b677c6074332e930f8\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"424\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p></p><p>In my view, the pre-earnings rally was driven by management&#39;s vision about the future of the company (as I&#39;ve highlighted in my previous article) while the post-earnings selloff was probably due to the delay of that vision.</p><p>That being said, Tesla stock is still down nearly 50% from its all-time highs, so in this article, I will highlight some reasons why the stock may be a good buy at current levels.</p><p>Of course, I will also mention some reasons why investors might want to avoid the stock.</p><h2 id=\"id_2278919124\">Reason #1: All Hail to the EV King</h2><p>Looking at Tesla&#39;s Q2 results, Tesla recorded $19.9B of Automotive Revenue, down 7% YoY, mainly due to lower average selling prices and a decline in vehicle deliveries. This is concerning as the Automotive unit makes up 78% of total Revenue. What&#39;s more, peers such as Ford Motor Company (F) and General Motors Company (GM) actually grew in Q2.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/802f746dc1b3f8d738bedb4cd312ce15\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>Let&#39;s look at Tesla&#39;s production and delivery numbers. We can see that Tesla produced 387K Model 3/Ys in Q2, down 16% YoY - I think management wanted to get their inventory in check given the tough macro environment currently. Production for other models was 24K, up 24% YoY, as Cybertruck production more than tripled sequentially. Altogether, Total Production was 411K in Q2, down 14% YoY.</p><p>In terms of deliveries, Tesla delivered 422K Model 3/Ys, down 5% YoY, even despite lower ASPs and attractive financing options. On the other hand, Tesla delivered 22K other models, up 12% YoY, likely driven by Cybertruck as it became the best-selling EV pickup in the US in Q2. But on aggregate, Total Deliveries were 444K, down 5% YoY.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/964febe3b9fc9a77343b73684ceb0013\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"243\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>Okay, not a good start at all, right?</p><p>But here&#39;s why I think things will only get better from here:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>First, Q1 might be the trough. While Total Deliveries were down YoY, it actually increased QoQ, implying an improvement in overall consumer sentiment. Furthermore, management expects a sequential increase in production in Q3.</p></li><li><p>Second, the Fed is expected to cut rates later this year, which could spark an influx of demand for Tesla vehicles - I think many consumers are waiting on the sidelines anticipating falling interest rates, which will improve overall affordability.</p></li><li><p>Third, when we finally do get rate cuts, Tesla should be able to gradually increase ASPs as demand recovers, which should be a net positive for Revenue growth in future quarters.</p></li></ul><p>Granted, we may not see strong results in Q3. However, beyond that, we should see a reacceleration in Tesla&#39;s Automotive business.</p><p>And despite the current challenges in the EV market, Services and Other Revenue maintained robust growth, up 21% YoY to $2.6B. Tesla continues to expand its Supercharging network and plans to deploy more capacity - more than the rest of the industry combined in the US - as well as onboard more OEMS throughout the year, which should &#34;supercharge&#34; growth in future years.</p><p>As you can see, the Tesla continues to expand its footprint in Q2:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Tesla Locations</strong> were up 20% YoY.</p></li><li><p><strong>Mobile Service Fleet</strong> was up 7% YoY.</p></li><li><p><strong>Supercharger Stations</strong> were up 23% YoY.</p></li><li><p><strong>Supercharger Connectors</strong> were up 24% YoY.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e655d23bf599065d622bfc296b42cf93\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>So while growth has been negative and market share has declined slightly, as seen in the chart below, Tesla has been busy expanding its ecosystem as it prepares for its next stage of growth.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/644c1fc1702966edcbef7a871b0a9ba5\" tg-width=\"595\" tg-height=\"253\"/></p><p>Tesla FY2024 Q2 Quarterly Update Deck</p><p></p><p>Even so, Tesla still maintains the lion&#39;s share of the EV market, with a global EV market share of 20% in Q1. In the US alone, Tesla has an EV market share of about 50%.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/390bbd21d3f386455d21a05b0573cd9a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"184\"/></p><p>Counterpoint Research</p><p></p><p>Sure, competition is catching up - that&#39;s bound to happen as the EV market matures - and Tesla&#39;s market share may continue to fall in the near term. However, being the industry leader in terms of performance, innovation, and ecosystem, I believe Tesla will remain the undisputed king of EVs for the next few decades or so.</p><p>Furthermore, with its strong brand moat, upcoming new product launches, unmatched ecosystem, looming rate cuts, and the world&#39;s ongoing transition to full electrification, there&#39;s little doubt that Tesla will return to growth mode. It should, therefore, expand its market share, thus solidifying its position as the EV king.</p><h2 id=\"id_3089354549\">Reason #2: Energy Explosion</h2><p>Perhaps, the biggest surprise of the quarter was the explosion in storage deployments, which was 9.4GWh, up a whopping 158% YoY. This is also more than double its previous record of 4.1GWh in Q1.</p><p>As a result, Energy Generation and Storage Revenue surged 100% YoY to just over $3.0B. This is a welcome reacceleration in the energy business after a few quarters of deceleration due to the slowdown in the solar unit.</p><p>I don&#39;t think anyone saw this coming - and that&#39;s one of the main reasons why the stock rallied before earnings.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d9335965ac1ada57578c89eeeb382893\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"268\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>Yes, this could be a one-off quarter where several large contracts were lumped in a single quarter - deployments in future quarters will likely fluctuate.</p><p>Regardless, it&#39;s a testament to Tesla&#39;s unique value proposition, disciplined execution, and unprecedented demand, even in an environment polluted by high inflation and interest rates.</p><p>Imagine how this business would do when the macro situation improves…</p><p>And as CEO Elon Musk mentioned, the energy business is more &#34;demand constrained rather than production constrained,&#34; and the company is working hard to ramp up production to meet the demand. For instance, the company is getting ready for the Shanghai Megafactory to start production in Q1 next year, which could double or even triple its output.</p><p>In addition, the CFO echoes Elon&#39;s remarks, citing a strong deal pipeline and strong pricing power in the energy business (emphasis added).</p><blockquote><p>So, I mean, we are working with a large set of players in the market and <strong>our</strong> <strong>pipeline is actually pretty long</strong>. And there&#39;s actually very -- there&#39;s actually long end in terms of where you enter into a contract where delivery started -- starts happening. And so far we have <strong>good pricing leverage</strong>.</p><p>(CFO Vaibhav Taneja - Tesla FY2024 Q2 Earnings Call).</p></blockquote><p>It&#39;s also worth mentioning that solar demand should pick up once again when the Fed cuts rates, and combined with the momentum in the storage business, we could see exponential growth in Tesla Energy in the years to come.</p><h2 id=\"id_3391437802\">Reason #3: Solving Autonomy</h2><p>As a whole, Tesla generated $25.5B of Revenue in Q2, up only 2% YoY. Despite the tiny YoY gain, this beat analyst estimates by $760M.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/74243b4d846f198ce6ebf9b40071edbb\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"265\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>Nevertheless, the markets aren&#39;t really concerned about Tesla&#39;s near-term slowdown. They&#39;re more interested in the long-term growth story of the company - more specifically, the narrative that Tesla will one day solve autonomy.</p><p>After all, the markets are forward-looking.</p><p>Having said that, Tesla is on the right track to achieving the impossible.</p><p>Valuable FSD data is flowing in at an exponential rate as more and more Tesla owners opt in for the FSD program following its price reduction. Tesla is also offering free trials to certain customers, which, frankly speaking, is a win-win for both parties - customers get to test FSD at no cost while Tesla gets to collect more data and higher FSD attach rates once the trial ends.</p><p>And as the fleet becomes smarter and as more users spread their experiences through word of mouth, expect &#34;more meaningful FSD monetization,&#34; which should boost Automotive Revenue. And let&#39;s not forget, that Tesla also intends to license its FSD technology, which is yet another growth catalyst for Tesla.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/fd662b8033e2d2c479d817e50866fce4\" tg-width=\"586\" tg-height=\"290\"/></p><p>Tesla FY2024 Q2 Quarterly Update Deck</p><p></p><p>Once unsupervised (important keyword here) FSD is fully rolled out, Tesla can begin deploying its robotaxi service, which is another long-term Revenue booster. Though it is disappointing that the robotaxi product unveil was delayed by a couple of months, it allows Tesla to further improve the product as well as &#34;to show off a couple of other things.&#34;</p><p>Whatever it is, the robotaxi product will be a key growth driver for Tesla given the massive potential of an unmanned, autonomous, transportation service. As mentioned by management (emphasis added), autonomy is &#34;the biggest differentiator for Tesla&#34; - and so far, only Tesla is bold enough to venture into this unchartered water.</p><blockquote><p>The big -- really by far <strong>the biggest differentiator for Tesla is autonomy</strong>. In addition to that, we&#39;ve scale economies and we&#39;re the most efficient electric vehicle producer in the world. So, this, anyway -- while others are pursuing different parts of the AI robotic stack, <strong>we are pursuing all of them</strong>. This allows for better cost control, more scale, quicker time to market, and a superior product, applying not to -- not just to autonomous vehicles, but to autonomous humanoid robots like Optimus.</p><p>(CEO Elon Musk - Tesla FY2024 Q2 Earnings Call).</p></blockquote><p>Speaking of Optimus, management also mentioned that the humanoid robot has begun performing tasks in one of Tesla&#39;s factories, and is expected to have several thousands of them by the end of 2025. By 2026, Optimus should be available to outside customers.</p><p>All these projects require heavy AI training and compute. That is why Tesla is investing heavily in its software infrastructure. For one, the company is still working on its supercomputer, Dojo - to hedge against NVIDIA GPU shortages as well as to build an in-house computer that will make Tesla even more vertically integrated.</p><p>In addition, Tesla also plans to invest $5B into Elon&#39;s AI startup, xAI, which could speed up Tesla&#39;s AI developments and capabilities.</p><p>Whatever it is, solving autonomy is Tesla&#39;s next grand mission, which could drive monumental Revenue and earnings growth for decades to come. With all its current investments and developments, Tesla seems to be on the right trajectory and is likely to be the first (and perhaps, only) company to solve full-scale autonomy.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/77d9190d29151d36f13388458f8c7886\" tg-width=\"599\" tg-height=\"304\"/></p><p>Tesla FY2024 Q2 Quarterly Update Deck</p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_1964375565\">Reason #4: Margins Might Have Bottomed</h2><p>In Q2, Tesla produced $4.6B of Gross Profit at an 18.0% Gross Margin, which is down 20bps YoY. However, the Gross Margin expanded 60bps QoQ, signifying a possible reversal after a 2-year downtrend.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/558ef7ef9fe1fa6876e2a7c84e145f0d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"265\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>As expected, Gross Margin expanded sequentially due to the outgrowth of Tesla&#39;s non-automotive business. As you can see, Tesla Energy has the highest Gross Margin of 24.6% as of Q2 - its rapid growth relative to the Automotive division means that it will be margin accretive to the entire business. Furthermore, Services and Other Gross Margin also improved sequentially.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/441347cc5a6e556b8d64953800c284b2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"332\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>As always, the real debate revolves around Tesla&#39;s Automotive Gross Margin, which was down 70bps YoY. While margins were flat QoQ, keep in mind that it was largely due to record Regulatory Credit Revenue. Excluding Regulatory Credit Revenue, the Q2 Automotive Gross Margin would have been 14.6%, down from 18.1% last year and 16.4% a quarter ago. Automotive Gross Margin was also negatively affected by the Cybertruck ramp and lower ASPs.</p><p>Yes, not a good look at all.</p><p>However, there are reasons to believe that Automotive Gross Margin might improve from here:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla is ramping up production for its in-house 4680 battery, up 50%+ QoQ, and is testing it with its Cybertrucks. Once fully ramped, we should see cost per vehicle drop meaningfully, thus boosting margins.</p></li><li><p>Again, when the Fed cuts rates, I believe Tesla will gradually increase ASPs, leading to a higher margin per vehicle.</p></li><li><p>Per the CFO, cost per vehicle excluding the impact of Cybertruck actually dropped QoQ, so once the Cybertruck fully ramps, we should see margins improve as well. Management expects the Cybertruck operation to be profitable by the end of the year.</p></li></ul><p>That being said, Q2 Operating Profit was $1.6B at a 6.3% Operating Margin, which improved 80bps QoQ. This included $622M of restructuring charges, so without this one-time charge, the Operating Profit would have been $2.2B and the Operating Margin would have been 8.7%. This is a sign that margins might have bottomed.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0c885948e4d3fc9f1b87d289d59b6447\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"265\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>Besides, Tesla is still investing for the future (Reason #3) so margins are expected to be volatile. In addition, Tesla is sacrificing margins today - as seen with lower ASPs, competitive financing options, and new product launches - in an attempt to gain as much market share as possible.</p><p>One day, when Tesla is ready to deploy its high-margin products... margins will take off.</p><h2 id=\"id_3786485436\">Reason #5: $30B Cash Hoard</h2><p>Meanwhile, Tesla maintains a strong balance sheet with $30.7B of Cash and Short-term Investments and Total Debt of $12.5B. All in all, Tesla has $18.2B of Net Cash, which increased by $1.2B QoQ.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/7d9197180d7faa73a3c54a6a12c6fab4\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"261\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>The increase was driven by a positive Free Cash Flow of $1.3B, representing a 5% FCF Margin, which is a much-needed improvement QoQ, primarily due to a drop in inventory levels.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/43db5bc0613de54ee9a0b8025c3cd9ff\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"258\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s Analysis</p><p></p><p>But here&#39;s the chart that sets Tesla apart from legacy automakers. As you can see, Tesla has just $7.4B of Long-term Debt while peers have way more debt on their balance sheet, which creates an immense level of inertia for them. As for Tesla, its low debt and positive Net Cash position provides it with great financial flexibility and the privilege to invest in other future projects, while competitors have to deal with their high debt obligations first.</p><p>This is why Tesla has such a strong cost advantage over its peers.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0b82ebe2e290ba2e14f429c2b2072029\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"507\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_2897514095\">Reason #6: Fair Valuation</h2><p>Valuation is subjective - especially in the case of Tesla stock.</p><p>You have bears saying it&#39;ll go to $26. You have bulls saying it&#39;ll go to $2,600. The valuation spectrum for Tesla stock is expansive.</p><p>So I&#39;ll keep this section short.</p><p>As it stands, Tesla trades at an EV-to-Revenue multiple of 7.1x and a P/E ratio of 61.7x. Now, these multiples are not cheap by any means, but given historical standards, Tesla looks pretty attractive here.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/aada2d6b3d5d56346b22eed4621c64b4\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"491\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p></p><p>And given Tesla&#39;s strong brand, cost advantages, and efficient scale moats, as well as long-term growth potential in EVs, renewable energy, and autonomy, I believe Tesla&#39;s premium valuation is justified.</p><p>However, investors will need to have the stomach to endure the volatility - I think Tesla&#39;s premium valuation is mostly tied to its moonshot projects, namely FSD, robotaxi, Optimus, and so on.</p><p>I think it will take some time, probably a few more years or so of iteration before Tesla&#39;s moonshot projects begin to materialize and commercialize, and therefore, contribute to the company&#39;s top line.</p><p>Even so, its bottom line might remain under pressure for an additional year or so, as it would require these projects to reach a certain scale before they positively impact the company&#39;s bottom line.</p><p>Until then, Tesla&#39;s P/E ratio might remain elevated, probably for the next five years or so, which means Tesla stock will be prone to any negative news like launch delays or regulatory setbacks.</p><p>For now, I think Tesla stock trades at a reasonable valuation - right at fair value.</p><p>That being said, there are a lot of near-term catalysts that make Tesla stock a compelling buy, including interest rate cuts, the robotaxi event in October, as well as FSD approval.</p><p>However, there are downside risks as well…</p><h2 id=\"id_1000140524\">Risks (aka Reasons to Sell)</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Margin compression</strong>: I argued that margins might have bottomed in Q1 - keyword <em>might.</em> If Tesla&#39;s profit margins continue to fall further, the stock will likely follow suit.</p></li><li><p><strong>Execution</strong>: management&#39;s goals and targets might also be overly optimistic. Even Elon himself admitted to this. That said, the production ramp may be slower than anticipated. New product launches may get delayed. Promises may turn out to be empty. These will negatively impact the stock in the short term.</p></li><li><p><strong>Regulatory approvals</strong>: FSD, robotaxis, Optimus, AI… these are nascent categories. The regulatory watchdogs will be watching Tesla very closely. Any opposition would be a major blow to Tesla&#39;s business.</p></li><li><p><strong>If you don&#39;t believe Tesla will solve autonomy</strong>: I&#39;ll let Elon explain.</p></li></ul><blockquote><p>The value of Tesla overwhelmingly is autonomy. These other things are in the noise relative to autonomy. So I recommend anyone who doesn&#39;t believe that Tesla will solve vehicle autonomy should not hold Tesla stock. They should sell their Tesla stock. You should believe Tesla will solve autonomy, you should buy Tesla stock. And all these other questions are in the noise.</p><p>(CEO Elon Musk - Tesla FY2024 Q2 Earnings Call).</p></blockquote><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Elon Musk</strong>: Recently, Elon said that two people have already tried to assassinate him in the past eight months. That&#39;s unfortunate and disgraceful. That said, the success of the company is heavily reliant on its current CEO, it seems. What if Elon is not with us anymore? What happens to Tesla? This is a major risk to consider.</p></li></ul><h2 id=\"id_376359682\">Thesis</h2><p>Following its Q2 earnings release, Tesla stock sold off 12%, and as it stands, the stock is still down 45% from its all-time highs. Perhaps, it might be a good time to buy the stock - in this article, I highlighted six reasons why that is so:</p><ol start=\"1\" style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla is the king of EVs - and it will continue to be the case in the upcoming decades.</p></li><li><p>Energy is taking off - Revenue and profit generation from the segment will be margin accretive.</p></li><li><p>Tesla is probably the only company that has a chance of solving vehicle autonomy.</p></li><li><p>Margins might have bottomed - further sequential improvement will excite investors.</p></li><li><p>Tesla is in the best financial position in its history, with $30B of cash in hand.</p></li><li><p>The stock is fairly valued (in my opinion).</p></li></ol><p>Of course, there are risks. But with a top-quality, durable company like Tesla, I think it&#39;s reasonable to assume that Tesla will do well in the coming years.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>6 Reasons To Buy Tesla</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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(NASDAQ:TSLA), the stock has had a volatile quarter, swinging nearly 100% from its bottom of $140 to its recent high of $270.And recently, the company reported Q2 earnings that sent the stock diving 12% the following day, which is coincidentally how the stock has performed this year so far.Data by YChartsIn my view, the pre-earnings rally was driven by management's vision about the future of the company (as I've highlighted in my previous article) while the post-earnings selloff was probably due to the delay of that vision.That being said, Tesla stock is still down nearly 50% from its all-time highs, so in this article, I will highlight some reasons why the stock may be a good buy at current levels.Of course, I will also mention some reasons why investors might want to avoid the stock.Reason #1: All Hail to the EV KingLooking at Tesla's Q2 results, Tesla recorded $19.9B of Automotive Revenue, down 7% YoY, mainly due to lower average selling prices and a decline in vehicle deliveries. This is concerning as the Automotive unit makes up 78% of total Revenue. What's more, peers such as Ford Motor Company (F) and General Motors Company (GM) actually grew in Q2.Author's AnalysisLet's look at Tesla's production and delivery numbers. We can see that Tesla produced 387K Model 3/Ys in Q2, down 16% YoY - I think management wanted to get their inventory in check given the tough macro environment currently. Production for other models was 24K, up 24% YoY, as Cybertruck production more than tripled sequentially. Altogether, Total Production was 411K in Q2, down 14% YoY.In terms of deliveries, Tesla delivered 422K Model 3/Ys, down 5% YoY, even despite lower ASPs and attractive financing options. On the other hand, Tesla delivered 22K other models, up 12% YoY, likely driven by Cybertruck as it became the best-selling EV pickup in the US in Q2. But on aggregate, Total Deliveries were 444K, down 5% YoY.Author's AnalysisOkay, not a good start at all, right?But here's why I think things will only get better from here:First, Q1 might be the trough. While Total Deliveries were down YoY, it actually increased QoQ, implying an improvement in overall consumer sentiment. Furthermore, management expects a sequential increase in production in Q3.Second, the Fed is expected to cut rates later this year, which could spark an influx of demand for Tesla vehicles - I think many consumers are waiting on the sidelines anticipating falling interest rates, which will improve overall affordability.Third, when we finally do get rate cuts, Tesla should be able to gradually increase ASPs as demand recovers, which should be a net positive for Revenue growth in future quarters.Granted, we may not see strong results in Q3. However, beyond that, we should see a reacceleration in Tesla's Automotive business.And despite the current challenges in the EV market, Services and Other Revenue maintained robust growth, up 21% YoY to $2.6B. Tesla continues to expand its Supercharging network and plans to deploy more capacity - more than the rest of the industry combined in the US - as well as onboard more OEMS throughout the year, which should \"supercharge\" growth in future years.As you can see, the Tesla continues to expand its footprint in Q2:Tesla Locations were up 20% YoY.Mobile Service Fleet was up 7% YoY.Supercharger Stations were up 23% YoY.Supercharger Connectors were up 24% YoY.Author's AnalysisSo while growth has been negative and market share has declined slightly, as seen in the chart below, Tesla has been busy expanding its ecosystem as it prepares for its next stage of growth.Tesla FY2024 Q2 Quarterly Update DeckEven so, Tesla still maintains the lion's share of the EV market, with a global EV market share of 20% in Q1. In the US alone, Tesla has an EV market share of about 50%.Counterpoint ResearchSure, competition is catching up - that's bound to happen as the EV market matures - and Tesla's market share may continue to fall in the near term. However, being the industry leader in terms of performance, innovation, and ecosystem, I believe Tesla will remain the undisputed king of EVs for the next few decades or so.Furthermore, with its strong brand moat, upcoming new product launches, unmatched ecosystem, looming rate cuts, and the world's ongoing transition to full electrification, there's little doubt that Tesla will return to growth mode. It should, therefore, expand its market share, thus solidifying its position as the EV king.Reason #2: Energy ExplosionPerhaps, the biggest surprise of the quarter was the explosion in storage deployments, which was 9.4GWh, up a whopping 158% YoY. This is also more than double its previous record of 4.1GWh in Q1.As a result, Energy Generation and Storage Revenue surged 100% YoY to just over $3.0B. This is a welcome reacceleration in the energy business after a few quarters of deceleration due to the slowdown in the solar unit.I don't think anyone saw this coming - and that's one of the main reasons why the stock rallied before earnings.Author's AnalysisYes, this could be a one-off quarter where several large contracts were lumped in a single quarter - deployments in future quarters will likely fluctuate.Regardless, it's a testament to Tesla's unique value proposition, disciplined execution, and unprecedented demand, even in an environment polluted by high inflation and interest rates.Imagine how this business would do when the macro situation improves…And as CEO Elon Musk mentioned, the energy business is more \"demand constrained rather than production constrained,\" and the company is working hard to ramp up production to meet the demand. For instance, the company is getting ready for the Shanghai Megafactory to start production in Q1 next year, which could double or even triple its output.In addition, the CFO echoes Elon's remarks, citing a strong deal pipeline and strong pricing power in the energy business (emphasis added).So, I mean, we are working with a large set of players in the market and our pipeline is actually pretty long. And there's actually very -- there's actually long end in terms of where you enter into a contract where delivery started -- starts happening. And so far we have good pricing leverage.(CFO Vaibhav Taneja - Tesla FY2024 Q2 Earnings Call).It's also worth mentioning that solar demand should pick up once again when the Fed cuts rates, and combined with the momentum in the storage business, we could see exponential growth in Tesla Energy in the years to come.Reason #3: Solving AutonomyAs a whole, Tesla generated $25.5B of Revenue in Q2, up only 2% YoY. Despite the tiny YoY gain, this beat analyst estimates by $760M.Author's AnalysisNevertheless, the markets aren't really concerned about Tesla's near-term slowdown. They're more interested in the long-term growth story of the company - more specifically, the narrative that Tesla will one day solve autonomy.After all, the markets are forward-looking.Having said that, Tesla is on the right track to achieving the impossible.Valuable FSD data is flowing in at an exponential rate as more and more Tesla owners opt in for the FSD program following its price reduction. Tesla is also offering free trials to certain customers, which, frankly speaking, is a win-win for both parties - customers get to test FSD at no cost while Tesla gets to collect more data and higher FSD attach rates once the trial ends.And as the fleet becomes smarter and as more users spread their experiences through word of mouth, expect \"more meaningful FSD monetization,\" which should boost Automotive Revenue. And let's not forget, that Tesla also intends to license its FSD technology, which is yet another growth catalyst for Tesla.Tesla FY2024 Q2 Quarterly Update DeckOnce unsupervised (important keyword here) FSD is fully rolled out, Tesla can begin deploying its robotaxi service, which is another long-term Revenue booster. Though it is disappointing that the robotaxi product unveil was delayed by a couple of months, it allows Tesla to further improve the product as well as \"to show off a couple of other things.\"Whatever it is, the robotaxi product will be a key growth driver for Tesla given the massive potential of an unmanned, autonomous, transportation service. As mentioned by management (emphasis added), autonomy is \"the biggest differentiator for Tesla\" - and so far, only Tesla is bold enough to venture into this unchartered water.The big -- really by far the biggest differentiator for Tesla is autonomy. In addition to that, we've scale economies and we're the most efficient electric vehicle producer in the world. So, this, anyway -- while others are pursuing different parts of the AI robotic stack, we are pursuing all of them. This allows for better cost control, more scale, quicker time to market, and a superior product, applying not to -- not just to autonomous vehicles, but to autonomous humanoid robots like Optimus.(CEO Elon Musk - Tesla FY2024 Q2 Earnings Call).Speaking of Optimus, management also mentioned that the humanoid robot has begun performing tasks in one of Tesla's factories, and is expected to have several thousands of them by the end of 2025. By 2026, Optimus should be available to outside customers.All these projects require heavy AI training and compute. That is why Tesla is investing heavily in its software infrastructure. For one, the company is still working on its supercomputer, Dojo - to hedge against NVIDIA GPU shortages as well as to build an in-house computer that will make Tesla even more vertically integrated.In addition, Tesla also plans to invest $5B into Elon's AI startup, xAI, which could speed up Tesla's AI developments and capabilities.Whatever it is, solving autonomy is Tesla's next grand mission, which could drive monumental Revenue and earnings growth for decades to come. With all its current investments and developments, Tesla seems to be on the right trajectory and is likely to be the first (and perhaps, only) company to solve full-scale autonomy.Tesla FY2024 Q2 Quarterly Update DeckReason #4: Margins Might Have BottomedIn Q2, Tesla produced $4.6B of Gross Profit at an 18.0% Gross Margin, which is down 20bps YoY. However, the Gross Margin expanded 60bps QoQ, signifying a possible reversal after a 2-year downtrend.Author's AnalysisAs expected, Gross Margin expanded sequentially due to the outgrowth of Tesla's non-automotive business. As you can see, Tesla Energy has the highest Gross Margin of 24.6% as of Q2 - its rapid growth relative to the Automotive division means that it will be margin accretive to the entire business. Furthermore, Services and Other Gross Margin also improved sequentially.Author's AnalysisAs always, the real debate revolves around Tesla's Automotive Gross Margin, which was down 70bps YoY. While margins were flat QoQ, keep in mind that it was largely due to record Regulatory Credit Revenue. Excluding Regulatory Credit Revenue, the Q2 Automotive Gross Margin would have been 14.6%, down from 18.1% last year and 16.4% a quarter ago. Automotive Gross Margin was also negatively affected by the Cybertruck ramp and lower ASPs.Yes, not a good look at all.However, there are reasons to believe that Automotive Gross Margin might improve from here:Tesla is ramping up production for its in-house 4680 battery, up 50%+ QoQ, and is testing it with its Cybertrucks. Once fully ramped, we should see cost per vehicle drop meaningfully, thus boosting margins.Again, when the Fed cuts rates, I believe Tesla will gradually increase ASPs, leading to a higher margin per vehicle.Per the CFO, cost per vehicle excluding the impact of Cybertruck actually dropped QoQ, so once the Cybertruck fully ramps, we should see margins improve as well. Management expects the Cybertruck operation to be profitable by the end of the year.That being said, Q2 Operating Profit was $1.6B at a 6.3% Operating Margin, which improved 80bps QoQ. This included $622M of restructuring charges, so without this one-time charge, the Operating Profit would have been $2.2B and the Operating Margin would have been 8.7%. This is a sign that margins might have bottomed.Author's AnalysisBesides, Tesla is still investing for the future (Reason #3) so margins are expected to be volatile. In addition, Tesla is sacrificing margins today - as seen with lower ASPs, competitive financing options, and new product launches - in an attempt to gain as much market share as possible.One day, when Tesla is ready to deploy its high-margin products... margins will take off.Reason #5: $30B Cash HoardMeanwhile, Tesla maintains a strong balance sheet with $30.7B of Cash and Short-term Investments and Total Debt of $12.5B. All in all, Tesla has $18.2B of Net Cash, which increased by $1.2B QoQ.Author's AnalysisThe increase was driven by a positive Free Cash Flow of $1.3B, representing a 5% FCF Margin, which is a much-needed improvement QoQ, primarily due to a drop in inventory levels.Author's AnalysisBut here's the chart that sets Tesla apart from legacy automakers. As you can see, Tesla has just $7.4B of Long-term Debt while peers have way more debt on their balance sheet, which creates an immense level of inertia for them. As for Tesla, its low debt and positive Net Cash position provides it with great financial flexibility and the privilege to invest in other future projects, while competitors have to deal with their high debt obligations first.This is why Tesla has such a strong cost advantage over its peers.Data by YChartsReason #6: Fair ValuationValuation is subjective - especially in the case of Tesla stock.You have bears saying it'll go to $26. You have bulls saying it'll go to $2,600. The valuation spectrum for Tesla stock is expansive.So I'll keep this section short.As it stands, Tesla trades at an EV-to-Revenue multiple of 7.1x and a P/E ratio of 61.7x. Now, these multiples are not cheap by any means, but given historical standards, Tesla looks pretty attractive here.Data by YChartsAnd given Tesla's strong brand, cost advantages, and efficient scale moats, as well as long-term growth potential in EVs, renewable energy, and autonomy, I believe Tesla's premium valuation is justified.However, investors will need to have the stomach to endure the volatility - I think Tesla's premium valuation is mostly tied to its moonshot projects, namely FSD, robotaxi, Optimus, and so on.I think it will take some time, probably a few more years or so of iteration before Tesla's moonshot projects begin to materialize and commercialize, and therefore, contribute to the company's top line.Even so, its bottom line might remain under pressure for an additional year or so, as it would require these projects to reach a certain scale before they positively impact the company's bottom line.Until then, Tesla's P/E ratio might remain elevated, probably for the next five years or so, which means Tesla stock will be prone to any negative news like launch delays or regulatory setbacks.For now, I think Tesla stock trades at a reasonable valuation - right at fair value.That being said, there are a lot of near-term catalysts that make Tesla stock a compelling buy, including interest rate cuts, the robotaxi event in October, as well as FSD approval.However, there are downside risks as well…Risks (aka Reasons to Sell)Margin compression: I argued that margins might have bottomed in Q1 - keyword might. If Tesla's profit margins continue to fall further, the stock will likely follow suit.Execution: management's goals and targets might also be overly optimistic. Even Elon himself admitted to this. That said, the production ramp may be slower than anticipated. New product launches may get delayed. Promises may turn out to be empty. These will negatively impact the stock in the short term.Regulatory approvals: FSD, robotaxis, Optimus, AI… these are nascent categories. The regulatory watchdogs will be watching Tesla very closely. Any opposition would be a major blow to Tesla's business.If you don't believe Tesla will solve autonomy: I'll let Elon explain.The value of Tesla overwhelmingly is autonomy. These other things are in the noise relative to autonomy. So I recommend anyone who doesn't believe that Tesla will solve vehicle autonomy should not hold Tesla stock. They should sell their Tesla stock. You should believe Tesla will solve autonomy, you should buy Tesla stock. And all these other questions are in the noise.(CEO Elon Musk - Tesla FY2024 Q2 Earnings Call).Elon Musk: Recently, Elon said that two people have already tried to assassinate him in the past eight months. That's unfortunate and disgraceful. That said, the success of the company is heavily reliant on its current CEO, it seems. What if Elon is not with us anymore? What happens to Tesla? This is a major risk to consider.ThesisFollowing its Q2 earnings release, Tesla stock sold off 12%, and as it stands, the stock is still down 45% from its all-time highs. Perhaps, it might be a good time to buy the stock - in this article, I highlighted six reasons why that is so:Tesla is the king of EVs - and it will continue to be the case in the upcoming decades.Energy is taking off - Revenue and profit generation from the segment will be margin accretive.Tesla is probably the only company that has a chance of solving vehicle autonomy.Margins might have bottomed - further sequential improvement will excite investors.Tesla is in the best financial position in its history, with $30B of cash in hand.The stock is fairly valued (in my opinion).Of course, there are risks. But with a top-quality, durable company like Tesla, I think it's reasonable to assume that Tesla will do well in the coming years.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":181,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":330488273678480,"gmtCreate":1721691542955,"gmtModify":1721691557033,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Tomorrow the market will crash..do u know??","listText":"Tomorrow the market will crash..do u know??","text":"Tomorrow the market will crash..do u 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advantages, income investors feel assured that these REITs can tide through the current environment of higher interest rates.</p><p>It is also a great idea to single out which REITs you plan to buy should the market crash suddenly.</p><p>Here are three Singapore REITs on my buy watchlist the next time the market dives.</p><h2 id=\"id_739446913\">Parkway Life REIT (SGX: C2PU)</h2><p>Parkway Life REIT, or PLife REIT, is a healthcare REIT with a portfolio of 63 properties with assets under management (AUM) of S$2.2 billion.</p><p>The REIT owns three hospitals in Singapore, 59 nursing homes in Japan, and a strata-titled building in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.</p><p>PLife REIT has a strong sponsor in <strong>IHH Healthcare Berhad</strong> (SGX: Q0F), an integrated healthcare player with over 80 hospitals in 10 countries.</p><p>The healthcare REIT has an enviable track record of uninterrupted increases in its core distribution per unit (DPU) since its IPO in 2007.</p><p>For the first quarter of 2024 (1Q 2024), PLife REIT saw its revenue dip by 2.7% year on year to S$36.3 million.</p><p>Net property income (NPI) also fell by 2.8% year on year to S$34.3 million.</p><p>However, DPU rose 4% year on year to S$0.0379.</p><p>PLife REIT intends to leverage its first-mover advantage and strong network in Japan to expand through acquisitions.</p><p>At the same time, the healthcare REIT is looking to build a third key market that can help the REIT to grow in the mid to long term.</p><h2 id=\"id_2309593267\">CapitaLand Integrated Commercial Trust (SGX: C38U)</h2><p>CapitaLand Integrated Commercial Trust, or CICT, is a retail and commercial REIT with a portfolio of 21 properties in Singapore, two in Germany, and three in Australia.</p><p>CICT’s AUM stood at S$24.5 billion as of 31 December 2023.</p><p>The REIT has a reputable sponsor in <strong>CapitaLand Investment Limited</strong> (SGX: 9CI) which had S$133 billion of AUM and S$90 billion of funds under management as of 30 September 2023.</p><p>CICT reported an admirable performance for 2023 with revenue rising by 8.2% year on year to S$1.6 billion.</p><p>NPI improved by 7% year on year to S$1.1 billion and the REIT saw its DPU inch up 1.6% year on year to S$0.1075.</p><p>For 1Q 2024, the REIT has continued its momentum by reporting a 2.6% year-on-year increase in gross revenue to S$398.6 million.</p><p>NPI jumped 6.3% year on year to S$293.7 million.</p><p>CICT’s portfolio saw a high committed occupancy level of 97% and both its retail and commercial divisions reported positive rental reversions of 7.2% and 14.1%, respectively.</p><p>The REIT has also undertaken asset enhancement initiatives (AEIs) on the IMM Building in Singapore and Gallileo in Frankfurt.</p><h2 id=\"id_2234393152\">Frasers Centrepoint Trust (SGX: J69U)</h2><p>Frasers Centrepoint Trust, or FCT, is a retail REIT with a portfolio of nine suburban retail malls and an office building.</p><p>FCT is the largest suburban retail mall owner with an AUM of S$7.1 billion.</p><p>The REIT has a strong sponsor in <strong>Frasers Property Limited</strong> (SGX: TQ5), an investor, developer, and manager of real estate assets with an AUM of around S$40.1 billion as of 31 March 2024.</p><p>For the first half of fiscal 2024 (1H FY2024) ending 31 March 2024, FCT reported a 7.2% year-on-year dip in revenue to S$172.2 million.</p><p>Its NPI also fell by 8.4% year on year to S$124.6 million.</p><p>The decline was because of the divestment of Changi City Point in October 2023 and ongoing AEI works at Tampines 1 Mall.</p><p>Excluding these effects, FCT’s revenue and NPI would have risen by 2.9% and 2.1% year on year, respectively.</p><p>The retail REIT sported a very high committed occupancy rate of 99.9% as of 31 March 2024.</p><p>Rental reversion was also strong at a positive 7.5%, an improvement over the prior period’s positive 4.3%.</p><p>Both shopper traffic and tenant sales continued to climb.</p><p>For the second quarter of FY2024, shopper traffic increased by 8.1% year on year while tenant sales edged up 4.3% year on year.</p><p>FCT had just completed the acquisition of an additional 24.5% stake in NEX Mall in Serangoon back in March 2024, taking its effective stake to 49%.</p><p>For the Tampines 1 AEI, the REIT has secured more than 99% leasing commitment to date and works are expected to be completed by September 2024.</p><p>If you’re looking to retire comfortably during this period of high inflation, join our FREE email series ‘Secrets to Becoming a Singapore Stock Market Millionaire ’. 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C2PU)Parkway Life REIT, or PLife REIT, is a healthcare REIT with a portfolio of 63 properties with assets under management (AUM) of S$2.2 billion.The REIT owns three hospitals in Singapore, 59 nursing homes in Japan, and a strata-titled building in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.PLife REIT has a strong sponsor in IHH Healthcare Berhad (SGX: Q0F), an integrated healthcare player with over 80 hospitals in 10 countries.The healthcare REIT has an enviable track record of uninterrupted increases in its core distribution per unit (DPU) since its IPO in 2007.For the first quarter of 2024 (1Q 2024), PLife REIT saw its revenue dip by 2.7% year on year to S$36.3 million.Net property income (NPI) also fell by 2.8% year on year to S$34.3 million.However, DPU rose 4% year on year to S$0.0379.PLife REIT intends to leverage its first-mover advantage and strong network in Japan to expand through acquisitions.At the same time, the healthcare REIT is looking to build a third key market that can help the REIT to grow in the mid to long term.CapitaLand Integrated Commercial Trust (SGX: C38U)CapitaLand Integrated Commercial Trust, or CICT, is a retail and commercial REIT with a portfolio of 21 properties in Singapore, two in Germany, and three in Australia.CICT’s AUM stood at S$24.5 billion as of 31 December 2023.The REIT has a reputable sponsor in CapitaLand Investment Limited (SGX: 9CI) which had S$133 billion of AUM and S$90 billion of funds under management as of 30 September 2023.CICT reported an admirable performance for 2023 with revenue rising by 8.2% year on year to S$1.6 billion.NPI improved by 7% year on year to S$1.1 billion and the REIT saw its DPU inch up 1.6% year on year to S$0.1075.For 1Q 2024, the REIT has continued its momentum by reporting a 2.6% year-on-year increase in gross revenue to S$398.6 million.NPI jumped 6.3% year on year to S$293.7 million.CICT’s portfolio saw a high committed occupancy level of 97% and both its retail and commercial divisions reported positive rental reversions of 7.2% and 14.1%, respectively.The REIT has also undertaken asset enhancement initiatives (AEIs) on the IMM Building in Singapore and Gallileo in Frankfurt.Frasers Centrepoint Trust (SGX: J69U)Frasers Centrepoint Trust, or FCT, is a retail REIT with a portfolio of nine suburban retail malls and an office building.FCT is the largest suburban retail mall owner with an AUM of S$7.1 billion.The REIT has a strong sponsor in Frasers Property Limited (SGX: TQ5), an investor, developer, and manager of real estate assets with an AUM of around S$40.1 billion as of 31 March 2024.For the first half of fiscal 2024 (1H FY2024) ending 31 March 2024, FCT reported a 7.2% year-on-year dip in revenue to S$172.2 million.Its NPI also fell by 8.4% year on year to S$124.6 million.The decline was because of the divestment of Changi City Point in October 2023 and ongoing AEI works at Tampines 1 Mall.Excluding these effects, FCT’s revenue and NPI would have risen by 2.9% and 2.1% year on year, respectively.The retail REIT sported a very high committed occupancy rate of 99.9% as of 31 March 2024.Rental reversion was also strong at a positive 7.5%, an improvement over the prior period’s positive 4.3%.Both shopper traffic and tenant sales continued to climb.For the second quarter of FY2024, shopper traffic increased by 8.1% year on year while tenant sales edged up 4.3% year on year.FCT had just completed the acquisition of an additional 24.5% stake in NEX Mall in Serangoon back in March 2024, taking its effective stake to 49%.For the Tampines 1 AEI, the REIT has secured more than 99% leasing commitment to date and works are expected to be completed by September 2024.If you’re looking to retire comfortably during this period of high inflation, join our FREE email series ‘Secrets to Becoming a Singapore Stock Market Millionaire ’. Over 5 emails, you’ll get daily investing tips that will help you build a recession-proof retirement portfolio. Easy to implement, and works for any level of investing experience. Click here to sign up now.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":236,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":326724356944008,"gmtCreate":1720800151355,"gmtModify":1720800376547,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Congrats on those who shorted before market opened! Cos u probably died&nbsp;","listText":"Congrats on those who shorted before market opened! Cos u probably died&nbsp;","text":"Congrats on those who shorted before market opened! Cos u probably died","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/326724356944008","repostId":"2450304955","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":220,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":326654205485320,"gmtCreate":1720782927468,"gmtModify":1720792524978,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Wat a stupid assessment&nbsp;","listText":"Wat a stupid assessment&nbsp;","text":"Wat a stupid assessment","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/326654205485320","repostId":"2450337833","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2450337833","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1720752914,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2450337833?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-12 10:55","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Is Great. Here's Why You Shouldn't Buy It","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2450337833","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"There's no denying that this is one of the most innovative businesses of the past decade.","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla stock is easily one of the market&#39;s best performers in recent years.</p></li><li><p>The company has rapidly disrupted the auto industry, becoming a clear leader in electric vehicles.</p></li><li><p>Shares are extremely expensive, reflecting bullish investors&#39; lofty expectations.</p></li></ul><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> has worked out to be a truly fantastic investment. In the last decade, shares have skyrocketed 1,700%. That gain trounces the total return of the Nasdaq Composite.</p><p>Most people would agree that Tesla has accomplished some great things on its path to becoming one of the most valuable businesses on the face of the planet. However, you shouldn&#39;t buy this top electric vehicle (EV) stock, even as it sits 36% off its peak price (as of July 9). Here&#39;s why.</p><h2 id=\"id_1089948140\">Disrupting the auto sector</h2><p>Tesla went from only selling the high-performance Roadster model to now offering five key models (S, X, 3, Y, and Cybertruck). And there is a new lower-cost model planned for production in 2025 that investors hope can help the company gain market share. According to Cox Automotive, Tesla has a 51% share of the U.S. market for EV unit sales. And according to Counterpoint Research, Tesla has a 20% share of the global market.</p><p>What&#39;s noteworthy is just how much Tesla has disrupted the auto sector. A decade ago, it was difficult to find any EVs on the road, something that the company helped to change with its focus on elegant car exterior designs with innovative tech features. The EV maker&#39;s monster success, as exemplified by its well-regarded brand and robust manufacturing capabilities, spurred legacy carmakers to start investing in their own EV ambitions.</p><p>Sales in the most recent quarter (ended March 31) came in at $21.3 billion, nearly fivefold higher than just five years ago in Q1 2019. Tesla also has exposure to the energy sector, offering storage and generation products. In 2023, the company raked in $6 billion in revenue from these operations, representing 6% of the total. With its cars and energy products, Tesla is attempting to usher in a sustainable future for the world.</p><h2 id=\"id_292152937\">Huge expectations</h2><p>I mentioned earlier that Tesla shares are well off their all-time high. This is even after they have soared 48% in the past month. However, the stock is not a bargain, trading at a price-to-earnings ratio of 67.2.</p><p>That valuation is extremely expensive, especially when you consider that right now, Tesla is still just a car manufacturer. And to be clear, it&#39;s a struggling one at that. Its sales were up by just 3% in Q4 last year, before falling 9% in the first quarter of this year. Competition in the industry, as well as higher interest rates, don&#39;t create a favorable backdrop for strong growth. Moreover, Tesla has felt pressure on its margins, too.</p><p>But there are some bullish investors, like Cathie Wood of Ark Invest, that believe Tesla is more than an automaker. They expect the EV pioneer will one day launch full self-driving capabilities, a breakthrough whose deadline has been pushed back before. And when this happens, Tesla will be able to introduce a global fleet of robotaxis, which supposedly has a gargantuan total addressable market and can rake in high-margin revenue for the company.</p><p>In my opinion, Tesla&#39;s lofty valuation reflects the high expectations of what the business <em>could</em> look like one day, not the reality of what the situation actually is right now. And that&#39;s just difficult to put money behind, particularly when the probability of robotaxis might still be low. All this points to the fact that Tesla is a story stock at the end of the day, a label that can be attributed to its visionary founder and CEO, Elon Musk.</p><p>It&#39;s hard to deny what Tesla has accomplished, adopting an innovative and disruptive strategy to upend an industry and become an $823 billion enterprise. But right now, it&#39;s best to avoid this stock.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is Great. 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In the last decade, shares have skyrocketed 1,700%. That gain trounces the total return of the Nasdaq Composite.Most people would agree that Tesla has accomplished some great things on its path to becoming one of the most valuable businesses on the face of the planet. However, you shouldn't buy this top electric vehicle (EV) stock, even as it sits 36% off its peak price (as of July 9). Here's why.Disrupting the auto sectorTesla went from only selling the high-performance Roadster model to now offering five key models (S, X, 3, Y, and Cybertruck). And there is a new lower-cost model planned for production in 2025 that investors hope can help the company gain market share. According to Cox Automotive, Tesla has a 51% share of the U.S. market for EV unit sales. And according to Counterpoint Research, Tesla has a 20% share of the global market.What's noteworthy is just how much Tesla has disrupted the auto sector. A decade ago, it was difficult to find any EVs on the road, something that the company helped to change with its focus on elegant car exterior designs with innovative tech features. The EV maker's monster success, as exemplified by its well-regarded brand and robust manufacturing capabilities, spurred legacy carmakers to start investing in their own EV ambitions.Sales in the most recent quarter (ended March 31) came in at $21.3 billion, nearly fivefold higher than just five years ago in Q1 2019. Tesla also has exposure to the energy sector, offering storage and generation products. In 2023, the company raked in $6 billion in revenue from these operations, representing 6% of the total. With its cars and energy products, Tesla is attempting to usher in a sustainable future for the world.Huge expectationsI mentioned earlier that Tesla shares are well off their all-time high. This is even after they have soared 48% in the past month. However, the stock is not a bargain, trading at a price-to-earnings ratio of 67.2.That valuation is extremely expensive, especially when you consider that right now, Tesla is still just a car manufacturer. And to be clear, it's a struggling one at that. Its sales were up by just 3% in Q4 last year, before falling 9% in the first quarter of this year. Competition in the industry, as well as higher interest rates, don't create a favorable backdrop for strong growth. Moreover, Tesla has felt pressure on its margins, too.But there are some bullish investors, like Cathie Wood of Ark Invest, that believe Tesla is more than an automaker. They expect the EV pioneer will one day launch full self-driving capabilities, a breakthrough whose deadline has been pushed back before. And when this happens, Tesla will be able to introduce a global fleet of robotaxis, which supposedly has a gargantuan total addressable market and can rake in high-margin revenue for the company.In my opinion, Tesla's lofty valuation reflects the high expectations of what the business could look like one day, not the reality of what the situation actually is right now. And that's just difficult to put money behind, particularly when the probability of robotaxis might still be low. All this points to the fact that Tesla is a story stock at the end of the day, a label that can be attributed to its visionary founder and CEO, Elon Musk.It's hard to deny what Tesla has accomplished, adopting an innovative and disruptive strategy to upend an industry and become an $823 billion enterprise. But right now, it's best to avoid this stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":206,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":326629197434992,"gmtCreate":1720767683627,"gmtModify":1720767697613,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Its all manipulated by who else?? Elon!!&nbsp;","listText":"Its all manipulated by who else?? Elon!!&nbsp;","text":"Its all manipulated by who else?? Elon!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/326629197434992","repostId":"2450396279","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":407,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3569274903458035","authorId":"3569274903458035","name":"HLPA","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/07e7b987a9127c5a47dbc3ae02db548b","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3569274903458035","authorIdStr":"3569274903458035"},"content":"fully agree. EM is the master in manipulating TSLA share price. Great stock for day or swimg trades to ride on its daily momentum","text":"fully agree. EM is the master in manipulating TSLA share price. Great stock for day or swimg trades to ride on its daily momentum","html":"fully agree. EM is the master in manipulating TSLA share price. Great stock for day or swimg trades to ride on its daily momentum"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":242099360891104,"gmtCreate":1700143313316,"gmtModify":1700143317649,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Is this a bias news to make people sell? So tat prices will drop low for a buy in? Dont be fooled","listText":"Is this a bias news to make people sell? So tat prices will drop low for a buy in? Dont be fooled","text":"Is this a bias news to make people sell? So tat prices will drop low for a buy in? Dont be fooled","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/242099360891104","repostId":"2383384741","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2383384741","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1700140240,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2383384741?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-16 21:10","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock: Prepare for a Drop Before the Next Leg Up","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2383384741","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Even as Tesla prepares to start operations in a lithium-rich nation, TSLA stock remains vulnerable to a near-term correction.","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p><strong>Tesla</strong> (<strong><u>TSLA</u></strong>) is taking steps to commence operations in lithium-rich Chile.</p></li><li><p>However, Tesla got slapped with a bearish analyst price target.</p></li><li><p>Investors should be patient and wait until TSLA stock is cheaper before taking a share position.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91b6ad9d87fb0ab9b8126b25e09a295e\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"432\"/></p><p>Source: Roschetzky Photography / Shutterstock.com</p><p>As popular as it may be, electric vehicle manufacturer <strong>Tesla </strong>(NASDAQ:<strong><u>TSLA</u></strong>) can’t always be a darling of the financial markets. One bearish-leaning analyst offered a convincing argument that TSLA stock will lose value. So, investors need to be patient and nimble, even if they believe in Tesla’s growth story for the long term.</p><p>Tesla is an EV industry leader, and the company is making a bold move into a country with abundant supplies of an important commodity. The buyers and sellers are in a tug-of-war and Tesla’s shareholders should exercise caution so they don’t get trapped.</p><h2 id=\"id_3808718677\">Tesla’s New Foray in South America</h2><p>There’s no denying that Tesla is a global company. It already has significant operations in the U.S., Europe and China. Soon, we’ll be able to add South America to that list.</p><p>Recently, Tesla registered a company called <strong>Tesla Chile SpA</strong> in Chile. Its stated purpose will be the “import, export, manufacturing, marketing, distribution and sale of vehicles, especially electric vehicles.”</p><p>Apparently, Chile has the biggest lithium reserves in the world, but the penetration of EVs there is low. According to a <em>Bloomberg</em> report, back in February, a team of people from Tesla “visited lithium extraction sites and an energy storage project in Chile.”</p><p>This is interesting, as Tesla isn’t a mining company. Yet, perhaps Tesla can team up with miners in Chile to extract lithium for EV batteries. Right now, it’s too early to know how much it will cost to get this Chilean venture’s operations underway.</p><p>But then, Tesla CEO Elon Musk is known to take risks. This foray into South America may sound risky, but it could provide Tesla with access to a potentially lucrative geographic market.</p><h2 id=\"id_2465326933\">TSLA Stock Gets Hit With a Low Price Target</h2><p>Everybody and their uncle seems to have a different opinion about Tesla. Still, HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall’s “sell”-equivalent rating and a surprisingly low $146 price target on TSLA stock definitely caught the market’s attention.</p><p>Tesla’s fans shouldn’t just ignore Tyndall’s commentary. He seems to cite valuation as a concern, stating, “Tesla is more than a very expensive auto company; its ambition is to be an innovator, which underpins the valuation.”</p><p>Indeed, Tesla’s trailing price-to-earnings ratio of 67.5x doesn’t suggest a screaming bargain. Tyndall added that a “[c]harismatic CEO with a cultlike following feeds into the innovator narrative, but timing of delivery is far from certain.”</p><p>It’s an interesting argument in a time when EV sales aren’t as robust as once anticipated. It’s conceivable that TSLA stock is overvalued as investors put too much faith in Musk instead of heeding his warnings.</p><h2 id=\"id_288199873\">TSLA Stock: Patience Will Be Rewarded</h2><p>Tyndall’s price target might shock some Tesla fans. His “cultlike” remark will certainly provoke controversy.</p><p>After all, Tesla is a groundbreaking company – just look at how it’s boldly venturing into Chile now. On the other hand, Tyndall’s argument does hold weight and Tesla’s valuation is a concern.</p><p>Therefore, it makes sense to let TSLA stock pull back 10% before jumping into the trade. Just be patient and let the sellers have their way for a while. 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One bearish-leaning analyst offered a convincing argument that TSLA stock will lose value. So, investors need to be patient and nimble, even if they believe in Tesla’s growth story for the long term.Tesla is an EV industry leader, and the company is making a bold move into a country with abundant supplies of an important commodity. The buyers and sellers are in a tug-of-war and Tesla’s shareholders should exercise caution so they don’t get trapped.Tesla’s New Foray in South AmericaThere’s no denying that Tesla is a global company. It already has significant operations in the U.S., Europe and China. Soon, we’ll be able to add South America to that list.Recently, Tesla registered a company called Tesla Chile SpA in Chile. Its stated purpose will be the “import, export, manufacturing, marketing, distribution and sale of vehicles, especially electric vehicles.”Apparently, Chile has the biggest lithium reserves in the world, but the penetration of EVs there is low. According to a Bloomberg report, back in February, a team of people from Tesla “visited lithium extraction sites and an energy storage project in Chile.”This is interesting, as Tesla isn’t a mining company. Yet, perhaps Tesla can team up with miners in Chile to extract lithium for EV batteries. Right now, it’s too early to know how much it will cost to get this Chilean venture’s operations underway.But then, Tesla CEO Elon Musk is known to take risks. This foray into South America may sound risky, but it could provide Tesla with access to a potentially lucrative geographic market.TSLA Stock Gets Hit With a Low Price TargetEverybody and their uncle seems to have a different opinion about Tesla. Still, HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall’s “sell”-equivalent rating and a surprisingly low $146 price target on TSLA stock definitely caught the market’s attention.Tesla’s fans shouldn’t just ignore Tyndall’s commentary. He seems to cite valuation as a concern, stating, “Tesla is more than a very expensive auto company; its ambition is to be an innovator, which underpins the valuation.”Indeed, Tesla’s trailing price-to-earnings ratio of 67.5x doesn’t suggest a screaming bargain. Tyndall added that a “[c]harismatic CEO with a cultlike following feeds into the innovator narrative, but timing of delivery is far from certain.”It’s an interesting argument in a time when EV sales aren’t as robust as once anticipated. It’s conceivable that TSLA stock is overvalued as investors put too much faith in Musk instead of heeding his warnings.TSLA Stock: Patience Will Be RewardedTyndall’s price target might shock some Tesla fans. His “cultlike” remark will certainly provoke controversy.After all, Tesla is a groundbreaking company – just look at how it’s boldly venturing into Chile now. On the other hand, Tyndall’s argument does hold weight and Tesla’s valuation is a concern.Therefore, it makes sense to let TSLA stock pull back 10% before jumping into the trade. Just be patient and let the sellers have their way for a while. After that, you can take a share stake in Tesla at a more favorable price.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":320,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"4140090365269462","authorId":"4140090365269462","name":"a4xrbj1","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9d8912bc5b3237f119291ecf0caa4d5a","crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4140090365269462","authorIdStr":"4140090365269462"},"content":"Huh? Its a prediction that the price will go down with some good reasoning. How about you let us know instead why you think it will go up? Please tell your reason","text":"Huh? Its a prediction that the price will go down with some good reasoning. How about you let us know instead why you think it will go up? Please tell your reason","html":"Huh? Its a prediction that the price will go down with some good reasoning. How about you let us know instead why you think it will go up? 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Moreover, Palantir is substantially under-appreciated by the market and could expand into one of the most dominant companies in the software space. Palantir - Harvard's Unicorn In 2015, Harvard wrote about Palantir, calling it the \"hottest unicorn you've never heard of.\" Fast forward eight years and just about everyone has heard of Palantir. The remarkable thing is that even back then, Palantir had a $20 billion valuation, servicing clients like the CIA, NSA, U.S. Army, and other essential government agencies.  In 2016, Palantir already had a firm seat at the big table. President-Elect Donald Trump met with the tech industry leaders at Trump Tower in New York. Seated around the table were tech visionary leaders like Larry Page, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos, Elon M","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir is a highly-polarizing battleground stock with significant growth potential.</p></li><li><p>Palantir is under-appreciated by the market, while it has established itself as a global leader in AI/ML platforms.</p></li><li><p>The company is a market leader in AI technology and has established itself as a global leader in AI/ML platforms.</p></li><li><p>Palantir recorded its third consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability and is experiencing increasing growth with international governments.</p></li><li><p>Palantir has significant growth and profitability potential and could reach a stock price of $50 in 1-3 years.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dbe8f8ec6642d7a06c08b20b944f9c65\" alt=\"Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images News\" title=\"Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images News\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"563\"/><span>Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images News</span></p><p>Palantir (NYSE:PLTR) is one of the most significant battleground stocks I&#39;ve encountered over my 20-plus year investment career. Either you love the company, or you hate it. Additionally, many market participants may need clarification about Palantir and what the company does. Many investors are on the sidelines and could join the party later when the stock is at a much higher price.</p><p>Palantir reminds me a lot of Tesla (TSLA). I went long Tesla&#39;s stock in 2013 and have been invested in one form or another ever since. Tesla was (arguably) the most significant battleground stock of all time, which I wrote about consistently over the last six years. I see many similarities between Tesla and Palantir. Both companies are market leaders at the cutting edge of their respective industries with remarkable growth potential ahead.</p><p>Also, many market participants believe these companies are overvalued and don&#39;t recognize the long-term revenue growth potential and profitability prospects for these firms. The primary difference is that Palantir may be where Tesla was about five years ago before its stock appreciated by nearly 2,000%.</p><p>I&#39;m not suggesting that Palantir will shoot up to <strong>$300</strong> anytime soon. Nevertheless, Palantir has much more potential than the market expects. Due to its leading position in AI and remarkable growth opportunities in its government and private sector, Palantir&#39;s stock could easily be around <strong>$50</strong> in 1-3 years and may go much higher afterward.</p><h2 id=\"id_1629837805\">So, what are you waiting for?</h2><p>Palantir is one of the most unique monopolistic-style AI market-leading companies operating in a blue-ocean atmosphere globally. Moreover, Palantir is substantially under-appreciated by the market and could expand into one of the most dominant companies in the software space.</p><h3 id=\"id_1885374083\">Palantir - Harvard&#39;s Unicorn</h3><p>In 2015, Harvard wrote about Palantir, calling it the &#34;hottest unicorn you&#39;ve never heard of.&#34; Fast forward eight years and just about everyone has heard of Palantir. The remarkable thing is that even back then, Palantir had a $20 billion valuation, servicing clients like the CIA, NSA, U.S. Army, and other essential government agencies.</p><p>In 2016, Palantir already had a firm seat at the big table. President-Elect Donald Trump met with the tech industry leaders at Trump <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TWR.AU\">Tower</a> in New York. Seated around the table were tech visionary leaders like Larry Page, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Peter Theil, and others. However, seated directly across from Mr. Trump was a relatively unknown 49-year-old Ph.D. named Alex Karp (Palantir&#39;s CEO).</p><p>Palantir was born in the wake of the 2001 terror attacks, was funded by a CIA venture arm, and initially enabled crucial U.S. intelligence agencies to combat terrorism and other threats. However, over time, Palantir has become far more than a U.S. government contractor, now working with other governments and establishing a firm foothold in the private sector. Furthermore, Palantir has established itself as a global leader in A.I. technology, implying its growth runway is vast and its profitability potential is massive.</p><h3 id=\"id_3421588916\">Palantir&#39;s Remarkable AI Potential</h3><p>Palantir&#39;s Gotham, Apollo, and Foundry programs already were market-leading software products before the company&#39;s substantial advancements in AI. Now, with the recent introduction of Palantir&#39;s artificial intelligence platform, &#34;AIP,&#34; users can leverage the power of AI to solve the most significant problems facing their enterprises. AIP offers capabilities powered by large language models (LLMs) to various applications. Moreover, customers don&#39;t need to change anything as Palantir&#39;s AIP seamlessly layers on top of its existing software programs.</p><p>Palantir&#39;s platforms are used throughout the public, private, and non-profit sectors. Palantir enables organizations to quickly implement solutions to the most challenging problems they face, allowing them to optimize operations, often leading to increased revenues and improved profitability.</p><h3 id=\"id_1294063085\">Some of Palantir&#39;s offerings include:</h3><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Anti-money laundering</p></li><li><p>Applied customer intelligence</p></li><li><p>Artificial intelligence and machine learning</p></li><li><p>Consumer goods</p></li><li><p>Cryptocurrency</p></li><li><p>Data protection</p></li><li><p>Defense</p></li><li><p>Ecosystem</p></li><li><p>Edge AI</p></li><li><p>Energy</p></li><li><p>Federal health</p></li><li><p>Financial services</p></li><li><p>Hospital operations</p></li><li><p>Intelligence</p></li><li><p>And much more</p></li></ul><p>Palantir is not just another software company. As Harvard stated years ago, Palantir is a &#34;secretive unicorn.&#34; However, now Palantir is a monopoly operating in a blue ocean atmosphere with limitless potential. Its category-defining technology has enabled it to become a global leader in AI/ML platforms. Moreover, Palantir was ranked No. 1 in a worldwide artificial intelligence software study in market share and revenue. We&#39;re still in the early innings of the AI revolution, and Palantir should become one of the greatest beneficiaries of the artificial intelligence boom in the coming years.</p><h3 id=\"id_2412212241\">The Results Speak For Themselves</h3><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/86135aec0c98220c345740f2e0ee9986\" alt=\"EPS growth (static.seekingalpha.com)\" title=\"EPS growth (static.seekingalpha.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"658\"/><span>EPS growth (static.seekingalpha.com)</span></p><p>Palantir recorded its third consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability. Moreover, we see a massive improvement over the nine-cent loss we saw in the same quarter one year ago.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f7f1e2a39e994155d687c2985f9f0dfc\" alt=\"Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)\" title=\"Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"291\"/><span>Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)</span></p><p>Palantir achieved 20% YoY U.S. commercial revenue growth and 10% U.S. government revenue growth. Also, we must consider that this significant growth occurs during a high-interest rate and low-growth economic environment, and sales growth should increase considerably once the transitory slowdown concludes.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f7729ac9c304d0d4755322abc4cbef88\" alt=\"Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)\" title=\"Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"291\"/><span>Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)</span></p><p>The remarkable factor is that while U.S. government growth increased by 10% from last year, total government growth came in at 15%. Therefore, Palantir is experiencing increasing growth with international governments, implying that international government growth should continue expanding, and revenue growth could increase.</p><p>Additionally, we&#39;re seeing lower growth in the international commercial segment. However, this phenomenon should be transitory and is likely correlated with slow global growth and relatively limited commercial exposure to Palantir platforms outside the U.S. Nonetheless, we should see a re-acceleration in international commercial development as the global economy improves and exposure to Palantir software solutions increases in commercial markets outside the U.S.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/43b8cb39ef534f68b76c545dee84d0eb\" alt=\"Customer count and billings (static.seekingalpha.com)\" title=\"Customer count and billings (static.seekingalpha.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"289\"/><span>Customer count and billings (static.seekingalpha.com)</span></p><p>Despite Palantir&#39;s transitory slowdown in revenue growth, customer count increased by 38% YoY, and billings surged by 52% over the same quarter one year ago. Therefore, we should see a substantial acceleration in revenue growth in the coming years and future quarters. I expect Palantir&#39;s sales growth to return to 25%-30% as the company advances in future years.</p><h3 id=\"id_1736599882\">I&#39;m Not Worried About Dilution, And You Shouldn&#39;t Be</h3><p>Some market participants have expressed concern about dilution in Palantir&#39;s stock. However, this issue has been overblown and taken out of context. Due to SBC, Palantir&#39;s share count surged after going public. However, many companies experience a similar dynamic after their IPO. Share count has remained relatively steady for years, increasing by about 15% over the last two years. Moreover, SBC should continue to become less significant as Palantir grows revenues in the coming years. Furthermore, Palantir announced a $1 billion buyback program during its latest earnings report.</p><h3 id=\"id_3510517362\">The Stock Buyback is a Huge Plus for Shareholders</h3><p>Some market participants claim that the buyback is harmful and that a company focusing on growth should not buy back its stock. However, Palantir is different from your ordinary company, and the buyback is a massive vote of confidence by high-level management in Palantir. Palantir&#39;s leadership is highly confident in the company&#39;s future. Its stock price is still meager, as Palantir&#39;s high probability for considerable outperformance is not factored into its stock price at this stage. Furthermore, the buyback has nothing to do with Palantir&#39;s growth trajectory, as the company can continue expanding while buying back shares.</p><h3 id=\"id_1279975925\">Palantir - Bullish Technical Set-Up</h3><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/57afdaf982f6077a35c2318a90b3ce34\" alt=\"PLTR (StockCharts.com)\" title=\"PLTR (StockCharts.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"676\"/><span>PLTR (StockCharts.com)</span></p><p>Palantir&#39;s technical image is highly constructive here. We see a similar pattern in early 2023 before the massive run-up in Palantir&#39;s stock. Therefore, we could see another substantial rally toward the $20-25 range once the current pullback/consolidation phase ends. Palantir&#39;s stock got highly overbought as it surged from about $7 to $20, but we&#39;ve seen a constructive correction since then. We&#39;re seeing improving momentum, and the 50-day MA crossed decisively over the 200-day MA, a bullish long-term technical dynamic.</p><h2 id=\"id_2253273141\">The Market is Behind The Curve On Palantir</h2><h3 id=\"id_1815103307\">Revenues Should Top Estimates</h3><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1b6d8bfd481ed31697da777dc44b8edb\" alt=\"Revenue estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)\" title=\"Revenue estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"202\"/><span>Revenue estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)</span></p><p>I rarely see the market so far behind the curve on a company, but a name that quickly comes to mind is Tesla. Tesla outperformed most revenue and EPS estimates as it transitioned into one of the most prominent global companies several years back. Palantir is in a similar spot as the market underestimates its future revenue growth. Instead of the projected 20% sales growth, Palantir could provide 25%-30% revenue growth as the global economy stabilizes and returns to growth. Palantir also should benefit significantly from a lower interest rate environment in the future, potentially delivering 30%-plus annual growth.</p><h3 id=\"id_688211846\">EPS Growth Should Exceed Expectations</h3><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5bee5ba0547bd74c2df8f4f3094dc798\" alt=\"EPS estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)\" title=\"EPS estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"197\"/><span>EPS estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)</span></p><p>We see a similar depressed EPS growth dynamic when considering consensus estimates for future years. Palantir is just starting to become profitable; its growth margin is 81%. Therefore, as Palantir&#39;s revenues increase more rapidly than expected, its profitability should expand faster than current EPS estimates imply. Instead of the anticipated 20%-30% EPS growth rate, we could see EPS expansion of around 35%-45% in future years. This dynamic of better-than-expected revenue growth and higher-than-anticipated EPS expansion should enable Palantir to maintain a relatively high forward P/E multiple of around 50-60, boosting its stock price much higher as we advance.</p><p><strong>Here&#39;s Where Palantir&#39;s Stock Could Be In Future Years</strong></p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Year</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2024</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2025</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2026</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2027</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2028</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2029</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>2030</strong></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Revenue Bs</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$2.85</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$3.6</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$4.62</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$5.96</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$7.75</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$10</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$12.8</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Revenue growth</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>30%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>29%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>30%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>29%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>EPS</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$0.33</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$0.48</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$0.67</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$0.95</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$1.32</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$1.82</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$2.50</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>EPS growth</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>43%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>44%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>42%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>41%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>39%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>38%</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>37%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Forward P/E</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>55</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>57</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>58</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>56</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>57</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>54</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>52</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Stock price</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$26</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$38</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$55</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$74</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$104</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$135</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$175</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p><em>Source: The Financial Prophet</em></p><h2 id=\"id_2045590667\">Risks to Palantir</h2><p>Despite my bullish projections, Palantir faces several risks. The company may grow slower than my forecast suggests, and its profitability may be lower than expected. Also, unknown factors regarding the broader economy could impact Palantir&#39;s shares. Economic growth could be slower than expected, leading to lower sales growth for Palantir as we advance. Investors should investigate these and other risk factors before committing capital to an investment in Palantir.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: What Are You Waiting For?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Either you love the company, or you hate it. Additionally, many market participants may need clarification about Palantir and what the company does. Many investors are on the sidelines and could join the party later when the stock is at a much higher price.Palantir reminds me a lot of Tesla (TSLA). I went long Tesla's stock in 2013 and have been invested in one form or another ever since. Tesla was (arguably) the most significant battleground stock of all time, which I wrote about consistently over the last six years. I see many similarities between Tesla and Palantir. Both companies are market leaders at the cutting edge of their respective industries with remarkable growth potential ahead.Also, many market participants believe these companies are overvalued and don't recognize the long-term revenue growth potential and profitability prospects for these firms. The primary difference is that Palantir may be where Tesla was about five years ago before its stock appreciated by nearly 2,000%.I'm not suggesting that Palantir will shoot up to $300 anytime soon. Nevertheless, Palantir has much more potential than the market expects. Due to its leading position in AI and remarkable growth opportunities in its government and private sector, Palantir's stock could easily be around $50 in 1-3 years and may go much higher afterward.So, what are you waiting for?Palantir is one of the most unique monopolistic-style AI market-leading companies operating in a blue-ocean atmosphere globally. Moreover, Palantir is substantially under-appreciated by the market and could expand into one of the most dominant companies in the software space.Palantir - Harvard's UnicornIn 2015, Harvard wrote about Palantir, calling it the \"hottest unicorn you've never heard of.\" Fast forward eight years and just about everyone has heard of Palantir. The remarkable thing is that even back then, Palantir had a $20 billion valuation, servicing clients like the CIA, NSA, U.S. Army, and other essential government agencies.In 2016, Palantir already had a firm seat at the big table. President-Elect Donald Trump met with the tech industry leaders at Trump Tower in New York. Seated around the table were tech visionary leaders like Larry Page, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Peter Theil, and others. However, seated directly across from Mr. Trump was a relatively unknown 49-year-old Ph.D. named Alex Karp (Palantir's CEO).Palantir was born in the wake of the 2001 terror attacks, was funded by a CIA venture arm, and initially enabled crucial U.S. intelligence agencies to combat terrorism and other threats. However, over time, Palantir has become far more than a U.S. government contractor, now working with other governments and establishing a firm foothold in the private sector. Furthermore, Palantir has established itself as a global leader in A.I. technology, implying its growth runway is vast and its profitability potential is massive.Palantir's Remarkable AI PotentialPalantir's Gotham, Apollo, and Foundry programs already were market-leading software products before the company's substantial advancements in AI. Now, with the recent introduction of Palantir's artificial intelligence platform, \"AIP,\" users can leverage the power of AI to solve the most significant problems facing their enterprises. AIP offers capabilities powered by large language models (LLMs) to various applications. Moreover, customers don't need to change anything as Palantir's AIP seamlessly layers on top of its existing software programs.Palantir's platforms are used throughout the public, private, and non-profit sectors. Palantir enables organizations to quickly implement solutions to the most challenging problems they face, allowing them to optimize operations, often leading to increased revenues and improved profitability.Some of Palantir's offerings include:Anti-money launderingApplied customer intelligenceArtificial intelligence and machine learningConsumer goodsCryptocurrencyData protectionDefenseEcosystemEdge AIEnergyFederal healthFinancial servicesHospital operationsIntelligenceAnd much morePalantir is not just another software company. As Harvard stated years ago, Palantir is a \"secretive unicorn.\" However, now Palantir is a monopoly operating in a blue ocean atmosphere with limitless potential. Its category-defining technology has enabled it to become a global leader in AI/ML platforms. Moreover, Palantir was ranked No. 1 in a worldwide artificial intelligence software study in market share and revenue. We're still in the early innings of the AI revolution, and Palantir should become one of the greatest beneficiaries of the artificial intelligence boom in the coming years.The Results Speak For ThemselvesEPS growth (static.seekingalpha.com)Palantir recorded its third consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability. Moreover, we see a massive improvement over the nine-cent loss we saw in the same quarter one year ago.Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)Palantir achieved 20% YoY U.S. commercial revenue growth and 10% U.S. government revenue growth. Also, we must consider that this significant growth occurs during a high-interest rate and low-growth economic environment, and sales growth should increase considerably once the transitory slowdown concludes.Revenue growth (static.seekingalpha.com)The remarkable factor is that while U.S. government growth increased by 10% from last year, total government growth came in at 15%. Therefore, Palantir is experiencing increasing growth with international governments, implying that international government growth should continue expanding, and revenue growth could increase.Additionally, we're seeing lower growth in the international commercial segment. However, this phenomenon should be transitory and is likely correlated with slow global growth and relatively limited commercial exposure to Palantir platforms outside the U.S. Nonetheless, we should see a re-acceleration in international commercial development as the global economy improves and exposure to Palantir software solutions increases in commercial markets outside the U.S.Customer count and billings (static.seekingalpha.com)Despite Palantir's transitory slowdown in revenue growth, customer count increased by 38% YoY, and billings surged by 52% over the same quarter one year ago. Therefore, we should see a substantial acceleration in revenue growth in the coming years and future quarters. I expect Palantir's sales growth to return to 25%-30% as the company advances in future years.I'm Not Worried About Dilution, And You Shouldn't BeSome market participants have expressed concern about dilution in Palantir's stock. However, this issue has been overblown and taken out of context. Due to SBC, Palantir's share count surged after going public. However, many companies experience a similar dynamic after their IPO. Share count has remained relatively steady for years, increasing by about 15% over the last two years. Moreover, SBC should continue to become less significant as Palantir grows revenues in the coming years. Furthermore, Palantir announced a $1 billion buyback program during its latest earnings report.The Stock Buyback is a Huge Plus for ShareholdersSome market participants claim that the buyback is harmful and that a company focusing on growth should not buy back its stock. However, Palantir is different from your ordinary company, and the buyback is a massive vote of confidence by high-level management in Palantir. Palantir's leadership is highly confident in the company's future. Its stock price is still meager, as Palantir's high probability for considerable outperformance is not factored into its stock price at this stage. Furthermore, the buyback has nothing to do with Palantir's growth trajectory, as the company can continue expanding while buying back shares.Palantir - Bullish Technical Set-UpPLTR (StockCharts.com)Palantir's technical image is highly constructive here. We see a similar pattern in early 2023 before the massive run-up in Palantir's stock. Therefore, we could see another substantial rally toward the $20-25 range once the current pullback/consolidation phase ends. Palantir's stock got highly overbought as it surged from about $7 to $20, but we've seen a constructive correction since then. We're seeing improving momentum, and the 50-day MA crossed decisively over the 200-day MA, a bullish long-term technical dynamic.The Market is Behind The Curve On PalantirRevenues Should Top EstimatesRevenue estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)I rarely see the market so far behind the curve on a company, but a name that quickly comes to mind is Tesla. Tesla outperformed most revenue and EPS estimates as it transitioned into one of the most prominent global companies several years back. Palantir is in a similar spot as the market underestimates its future revenue growth. Instead of the projected 20% sales growth, Palantir could provide 25%-30% revenue growth as the global economy stabilizes and returns to growth. Palantir also should benefit significantly from a lower interest rate environment in the future, potentially delivering 30%-plus annual growth.EPS Growth Should Exceed ExpectationsEPS estimates (SeekingAlpha.com)We see a similar depressed EPS growth dynamic when considering consensus estimates for future years. Palantir is just starting to become profitable; its growth margin is 81%. Therefore, as Palantir's revenues increase more rapidly than expected, its profitability should expand faster than current EPS estimates imply. Instead of the anticipated 20%-30% EPS growth rate, we could see EPS expansion of around 35%-45% in future years. This dynamic of better-than-expected revenue growth and higher-than-anticipated EPS expansion should enable Palantir to maintain a relatively high forward P/E multiple of around 50-60, boosting its stock price much higher as we advance.Here's Where Palantir's Stock Could Be In Future YearsYear2024202520262027202820292030Revenue Bs$2.85$3.6$4.62$5.96$7.75$10$12.8Revenue growth28%30%28%29%30%29%28%EPS$0.33$0.48$0.67$0.95$1.32$1.82$2.50EPS growth43%44%42%41%39%38%37%Forward P/E55575856575452Stock price$26$38$55$74$104$135$175Source: The Financial ProphetRisks to PalantirDespite my bullish projections, Palantir faces several risks. The company may grow slower than my forecast suggests, and its profitability may be lower than expected. Also, unknown factors regarding the broader economy could impact Palantir's shares. Economic growth could be slower than expected, leading to lower sales growth for Palantir as we advance. Investors should investigate these and other risk factors before committing capital to an investment in Palantir.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":289,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"4157784084640262","authorId":"4157784084640262","name":"Branda Maris","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b734db10ec8e2cc10af9939a76922097","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4157784084640262","authorIdStr":"4157784084640262"},"content":"4, 8, 7, 3, 2, 1, 0, 4, 8, 0, 4 Write Via WA/pp","text":"4, 8, 7, 3, 2, 1, 0, 4, 8, 0, 4 Write Via WA/pp","html":"4, 8, 7, 3, 2, 1, 0, 4, 8, 0, 4 Write Via WA/pp"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":214157724172392,"gmtCreate":1693324213874,"gmtModify":1693324219681,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Well as i said earlier when it dropped in july, it will come back and now everyone will be buying in..","listText":"Well as i said earlier when it dropped in july, it will come back and now everyone will be buying in..","text":"Well as i said earlier when it dropped in july, it will come back and now everyone will be buying in..","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":9,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/214157724172392","repostId":"2363449855","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2363449855","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1693324157,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2363449855?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-08-29 23:49","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Tesla Stock on Its Way Back to $300?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2363449855","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"The electric vehicle leader's long-term strategy is giving investors a compelling chance to own the stock now.","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_4040060303\" style=\"text-align: start;\">KEY POINTS</h2><ul><li><p>Several potential catalysts could boost Tesla&#39;s business and stock price over the long term.</p></li><li><p>One analyst views its Supercharger network as an underappreciated asset.</p></li></ul><p>Longtime <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> shareholders know how volatile its stock can be. After reaching its peak price of about $410 per share, it tumbled last year along with many other technology and growth stocks. </p><p>But shares have rebounded in 2023, nearly getting back to $300 per share in mid-July. After a month-long decline that took it back down to around $215, the stock is marching higher again. Telsa stock has jumped over 10% in the past week, and investors may be wondering if now is the time to get on board.</p><h2 id=\"id_906057616\">Investor sentiment</h2><p>Investor sentiment often drives Tesla&#39;s share price more than any business fundamentals. That&#39;s because much of the company&#39;s expected success has already been priced in. By traditional metrics, Tesla has long been valued at a premium. </p><p>The stock dropped in 2022 as the Federal Reserve quickly hiked interest rates to fight high inflation. But Tesla isn&#39;t a typical tech growth stock, either. It already generates massive amounts of cash and held more than $23 billion in cash and equivalents on its balance sheet as of the end of the second quarter with only about $1.5 billion in debt. That means higher interest rates won&#39;t sap a meaningful amount of earnings from its bottom line due to debt payments.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c1e8aa4e03d182bfd4f341739bd087cc\" alt=\"Data and Image source: Tesla.\" title=\"Data and Image source: Tesla.\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"436\"/><span>Data and Image source: Tesla.</span></p><p>The chart above shows quarterly results for cash flow and net income. While those earnings -- as well as cash flow -- have been growing nicely, bullish investors see much more to come as Tesla opens new vehicle factories and continues to expand its energy business. </p><h2 id=\"id_1684146872\">Catalysts on the horizon</h2><p>Much of the downward movement in Tesla shares this year has come due to its vehicle pricing strategy. While net income did grow 20% year over year in the second quarter, that was from sales that jumped 47%. That&#39;s because the company has been cutting vehicle prices globally to boost its sales volumes. The pricing strategy resulted in Tesla&#39;s operating margin falling to 9.6% in the most recent quarter from 14.6% in the year-ago period. </p><p>Tesla CEO Elon Musk has been open about his pricing strategy. On the company&#39;s second-quarter investor conference call in July, he reiterated that his approach favors growth in sales volume over pricing for now. Musk believes that will pay off down the line when highly profitable options, potentially including autonomous driving software, are being bought by more customers. </p><p>Self-driving technology is only one of several potential catalysts on the horizon. Tesla also continues to expand its energy business. That segment already generated more than $1.5 billion in revenue in the second quarter. And the Cybertruck could start contributing meaningful revenue within a year. </p><p>Another revenue stream beginning to get noticed is Tesla&#39;s Supercharger network. The company has been signing deals with a growing number of EV makers to open up its supercharging network to non-Tesla vehicles. Wedbush analyst Dan Ives recently looked at the potential for the network and told clients he believes it will deliver $10 billion to $20 billion in annual revenues by 2030. </p><h2 id=\"id_1841020543\">Investing for the future</h2><p>Tesla stock remains richly valued based on its recent results and near-term expectations. But as recently departed CFO Zach Kirkhorn said on the quarterly call, the company&#39;s plan right now is to generate cash to fund its longer-term plans. That will hold back profit growth, but could pay off for investors in the long run. Kirkhorn stated of those longer-term investments, &#34;the portfolio of products and technologies that the technical teams are investing in right now, this is intense. It&#39;s intense in terms of investment. It&#39;s intense in terms of potential.&#34; </p><p>That kind of outlook is what could prompt investors to buy the stock now, and what could have it moving back to $300 per share and beyond. It remains an investment best suited for those with a long time horizon, however. </p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla Stock on Its Way Back to $300?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs Tesla Stock on Its Way Back to $300?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-08-29 23:49 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/08/29/is-tesla-stock-on-its-way-back-to-300/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>KEY POINTSSeveral potential catalysts could boost Tesla's business and stock price over the long term.One analyst views its Supercharger network as an underappreciated asset.Longtime Tesla ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/08/29/is-tesla-stock-on-its-way-back-to-300/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/08/29/is-tesla-stock-on-its-way-back-to-300/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2363449855","content_text":"KEY POINTSSeveral potential catalysts could boost Tesla's business and stock price over the long term.One analyst views its Supercharger network as an underappreciated asset.Longtime Tesla shareholders know how volatile its stock can be. After reaching its peak price of about $410 per share, it tumbled last year along with many other technology and growth stocks. But shares have rebounded in 2023, nearly getting back to $300 per share in mid-July. After a month-long decline that took it back down to around $215, the stock is marching higher again. Telsa stock has jumped over 10% in the past week, and investors may be wondering if now is the time to get on board.Investor sentimentInvestor sentiment often drives Tesla's share price more than any business fundamentals. That's because much of the company's expected success has already been priced in. By traditional metrics, Tesla has long been valued at a premium. The stock dropped in 2022 as the Federal Reserve quickly hiked interest rates to fight high inflation. But Tesla isn't a typical tech growth stock, either. It already generates massive amounts of cash and held more than $23 billion in cash and equivalents on its balance sheet as of the end of the second quarter with only about $1.5 billion in debt. That means higher interest rates won't sap a meaningful amount of earnings from its bottom line due to debt payments.Data and Image source: Tesla.The chart above shows quarterly results for cash flow and net income. While those earnings -- as well as cash flow -- have been growing nicely, bullish investors see much more to come as Tesla opens new vehicle factories and continues to expand its energy business. Catalysts on the horizonMuch of the downward movement in Tesla shares this year has come due to its vehicle pricing strategy. While net income did grow 20% year over year in the second quarter, that was from sales that jumped 47%. That's because the company has been cutting vehicle prices globally to boost its sales volumes. The pricing strategy resulted in Tesla's operating margin falling to 9.6% in the most recent quarter from 14.6% in the year-ago period. Tesla CEO Elon Musk has been open about his pricing strategy. On the company's second-quarter investor conference call in July, he reiterated that his approach favors growth in sales volume over pricing for now. Musk believes that will pay off down the line when highly profitable options, potentially including autonomous driving software, are being bought by more customers. Self-driving technology is only one of several potential catalysts on the horizon. Tesla also continues to expand its energy business. That segment already generated more than $1.5 billion in revenue in the second quarter. And the Cybertruck could start contributing meaningful revenue within a year. Another revenue stream beginning to get noticed is Tesla's Supercharger network. The company has been signing deals with a growing number of EV makers to open up its supercharging network to non-Tesla vehicles. Wedbush analyst Dan Ives recently looked at the potential for the network and told clients he believes it will deliver $10 billion to $20 billion in annual revenues by 2030. Investing for the futureTesla stock remains richly valued based on its recent results and near-term expectations. But as recently departed CFO Zach Kirkhorn said on the quarterly call, the company's plan right now is to generate cash to fund its longer-term plans. That will hold back profit growth, but could pay off for investors in the long run. Kirkhorn stated of those longer-term investments, \"the portfolio of products and technologies that the technical teams are investing in right now, this is intense. It's intense in terms of investment. It's intense in terms of potential.\" That kind of outlook is what could prompt investors to buy the stock now, and what could have it moving back to $300 per share and beyond. It remains an investment best suited for those with a long time horizon, however.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":53,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9947762981,"gmtCreate":1683622035444,"gmtModify":1683622039977,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Now then pple realise JP is manipulating The market!!&nbsp;","listText":"Now then pple realise JP is manipulating The market!!&nbsp;","text":"Now then pple realise JP is manipulating The market!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9947762981","repostId":"1154601692","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1154601692","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1683621898,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1154601692?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-05-09 16:44","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Jerome Powell Faces Lowest Public Confidence for Fed Chairman on Record, Gallup Says","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1154601692","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"Just 36% say they trust Powell to do right thing for economyBiden, Yellen and congressional leaders ","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><p>Just 36% say they trust Powell to do right thing for economy</p></li><li><p>Biden, Yellen and congressional leaders also get low marks</p></li></ul><p>Public confidence in Jerome Powell’s leadership of the Federal Reserve has dropped precipitously, according to a new survey, and is now at or below his predecessors’ as the central bank wages its war against inflation.</p><p>A Gallup poll released Tuesday shows 36% of US adults say they have a “great deal” or a “fair amount” of confidence that the Federal Reserve chairman would do or recommend the right thing for the economy. </p><p>That’s lower than Janet Yellen’s 37% during her first year leading the Fed in 2014 — though the difference is within the survey’s margin of error of plus-or-minus 4 percentage points — and is the lowest level recorded since Gallup began tracking public confidence in the central banking chief in 2001. Former Chairman Ben Bernanke’s lowest point came in 2012, at 39%.</p><p>Confidence in the Fed generally follows the health of the economy. In April 2020, just a month after the onset of Covid-19 lockdowns, confidence in Powell was at 58% — the highest approval of any Fed chairman since Alan Greenspan in 2004. </p><h3></h3><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/14941cadf96ec45af9fb4d771ae57dcd\" tg-width=\"631\" tg-height=\"414\"/></p><p>But as inflation mounted and the Fed began to raise interest rates as a result, Powell’s approval dropped sharply. </p><p>Perceptions of the Fed are also colored by politics. Powell succeeded Yellen in 2018 under then-President Donald Trump. He enjoys the confidence of 60% of Democrats but only 21% of Republicans. When Trump was president, Republican confidence in Powell outpaced Democrats’ by an average of 14 percentage points. </p><p>Indeed, confidence in Powell is comparable to that of political actors. </p><p>President Joe Biden has the confidence of 35% of Americans on the economy — the lowest of any president since George W. Bush received 34% during the 2008 financial crisis. </p><p>Yellen, now Biden’s Treasury secretary, is at 37%, the lowest in that job since Jacob Lew’s 20% in 2014. </p><p>About 38% of Americans have confidence in congressional Republicans on the economy, compared to 34% for congressional Democrats.</p><h3></h3><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e4f8c4b60388380663982d0bbd1e1020\" tg-width=\"642\" tg-height=\"454\"/></p><p></p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Jerome Powell Faces Lowest Public Confidence for Fed Chairman on Record, Gallup Says</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Former Chairman Ben Bernanke’s lowest point came in 2012, at 39%.Confidence in the Fed generally follows the health of the economy. In April 2020, just a month after the onset of Covid-19 lockdowns, confidence in Powell was at 58% — the highest approval of any Fed chairman since Alan Greenspan in 2004. But as inflation mounted and the Fed began to raise interest rates as a result, Powell’s approval dropped sharply. Perceptions of the Fed are also colored by politics. Powell succeeded Yellen in 2018 under then-President Donald Trump. He enjoys the confidence of 60% of Democrats but only 21% of Republicans. When Trump was president, Republican confidence in Powell outpaced Democrats’ by an average of 14 percentage points. Indeed, confidence in Powell is comparable to that of political actors. President Joe Biden has the confidence of 35% of Americans on the economy — the lowest of any president since George W. Bush received 34% during the 2008 financial crisis. Yellen, now Biden’s Treasury secretary, is at 37%, the lowest in that job since Jacob Lew’s 20% in 2014. About 38% of Americans have confidence in congressional Republicans on the economy, compared to 34% for congressional Democrats.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":118,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":207306599432216,"gmtCreate":1691641091547,"gmtModify":1691641096945,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Not a buy? Well the price is low enuff for pple to come in and buy.. tat will make the stock price go up soon","listText":"Not a buy? Well the price is low enuff for pple to come in and buy.. tat will make the stock price go up soon","text":"Not a buy? Well the price is low enuff for pple to come in and buy.. tat will make the stock price go up soon","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/207306599432216","repostId":"1190364524","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1190364524","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1691633549,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1190364524?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-08-10 10:12","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Tesla Stock A Buy Or A Sell With CFO Zachary Kirkhorn Stepping Down?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1190364524","media":"Investor’s Business Daily","summary":"Tesla (TSLA) stock has been pulling back since second-quarter financials on July 19, as investor concerns over falling gross margins seems to be outweighing the global EV giant's earnings and revenue-","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><strong>Tesla</strong> (<strong>TSLA</strong>) stock has been pulling back since second-quarter financials on July 19, as investor concerns over falling gross margins seems to be outweighing the global EV giant&#39;s earnings and revenue-beating numbers.</p><p>Meanwhile, Tesla announced on August 7 that Chief Financial Officer Zachary Kirkhorn is stepping down. The EV giant announced in federal filings that Vaibhav Taneja took over from Kirkhorn on Aug. 4. Taneja will now serve as CFO as well as his current role of chief accounting officer.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;During his tenure, Tesla has seen tremendous expansion and growth,&#34; the company wrote in the SEC filing. &#34;Tesla thanks Mr. Kirkhorn for his significant contributions.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Kirkhorn joined Tesla in 2010 and became CFO in 2019. He will remain at Tesla through the end of the year to &#34;support a seamless transition,&#34; according to the company.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This comes after Tesla reported Q2 profits growing 20% to 91 cents per share while revenue increased 47% to $24.93 billion. Analysts expected profits to edge up around 4% to 80 cents per share with revenue totaling $24.22 billion, up 43% compared with last year.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla&#39;s total gross profit grew 7% to $4.53 billion in the second quarter. Meanwhile, total gross margins came in at 18.2%, down from 19.3% in Q1 and a decline of 682 basis points vs. last year. Auto gross margins, excluding regulatory credits and leases, came in at 18.1%, down from 18.3% in Q1.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">That is below the 20% gross margin &#34;floor&#34; Tesla previously targeted. Ahead of earnings, a slew of analysts rang warning bells on gross margins.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;The short-term variances in gross margins and profitability really are minor relative to the long term picture,&#34; Chief Executive Elon Musk <strong>told investors during the Q2 earnings call</strong>.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;Autonomy will make all of these numbers look silly,&#34; he added.</p><h2 id=\"id_259316425\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Stock Falls After Earnings</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">However on July 20, TSLA tumbled 9.7% to 262.90, falling below the 21-day line but only giving up July gains.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Ahead of earnings, Wood sold tranches of her firm&#39;s Tesla stock holdings in consecutive sessions, <strong>unloading more than 73,000 shares</strong> before the EV giant reported second-quarter financials.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas on July 24 wrote he expects Tesla&#39;s full-year auto gross margins to remain below 20% until 2025.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Cathie Wood sold another 20,700 shares of Tesla stock on July 25 for around $5.49 million, based on the closing price of 265.28.</p><h2 id=\"id_515949846\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Stock And Musk</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">There is never a dull moment for Tesla and Musk, with the two inextricably linked. Since <strong>Musk took over Twitter</strong> on Oct. 28, purchasing the social media platform for $44 billion, <strong>some longtime Tesla stock bulls</strong> have worried Musk&#39;s focus on Twitter, along with negative attention, is weighing down Tesla stock.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk appeared to lessen those fears when he hired Linda Yaccarino, NBCUniversal&#39;s advertising chief, as the new CEO for X Corp., formerly known as Twitter. The Tesla chief added Yaccarino will focus on business operations while he will work on product design and new technology.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Wedbush analyst Daniel Ives wrote the news ends some of the &#34;distraction risk around the Tesla story.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With TSLA shares pulling back after earnings, the top question for investors is always, when is it a good time to buy or sell Tesla stock.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla and Musk are betting big on the Cybertruck and autonomous vehicle technology, along with a possible tailwind from the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).</p><h2 id=\"id_1730267372\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla A Monster Stock Over Much Of Its History</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Almost single-handedly, Musk has turned the auto industry on its head, essentially forcing it to get aboard the electric-vehicle train.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">It&#39;s a reason why Tesla has been a monster stock over much of its history, especially during its stratospheric run from mid-2019 to late 2021. The stock hit a bear market low of 101.84 on Jan. 6, but roared back until Q1 earnings.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On April 19, Tesla reported a <strong>big first-quarter earnings decline</strong> while revenue missed views. Profit margins for the global EV giant also fell below 20% as the company executed an aggressive price-slashing strategy in the first part of 2023.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla reported revenue increasing 24% to $23.33 billion with EPS of 85 cents, a 20% decline compared to 2022.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The EV company&#39;s total gross profit came in at $4.5 billion, with Tesla&#39;s profit gross margin at 19.3%, down from 23.8% in Q4 and 29.1% a year earlier.</p><h2 id=\"id_5204211\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla&#39;s Global Price Cutting Strategy</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla slashed prices worldwide multiple times in 2023, starting in January and continuing into April. The only exception is China, where Tesla cut prices significantly in late October before the reductions in early January.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On April 14, Tesla reduced prices in several European markets. Tesla also dropped the price of its electric vehicles in Israel and Singapore in order to increase demand, expanding a worldwide discount push that began in China in January.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The global EV maker also significantly reduced prices in the U.S. and Europe on Jan. 13, then reduced European prices again in early March.</p><h2 id=\"id_507122418\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Stock: Betting On Autonomous Vehicles And The Cybertruck</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk has long touted Tesla&#39;s Full Self-Driving (FSD) technology and the potential value it brings to the brand.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The Tesla CEO told investors during the Q1 earnings call the &#34;value of a car that is autonomous is enormous.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk also stressed that improvements in the FSD beta are &#34;really quite dramatic.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;The trend is very clearly toward full autonomy, and I hesitate to say this, but I think we&#39;ll do it this year,&#34; Musk said, referring to self-driving vehicles.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Meanwhile, Musk has confirmed that a Cybertruck delivery event will take place later in 2023.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla reported in its Q2 financials the Cybertruck &#34;remains on track to begin initial production later this year at Gigafactory Texas.&#34; However, the EV giant added it is &#34;testing Cybertruck vehicles around the world for final certification and validation.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">&#34;We can&#39;t wait to start delivering it later this year,&#34; Musk told investors Wednesday, referring to the Cybertruck.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On July 15, Tesla tweeted a photo of the first Tesla Cybertruck made at its Austin plant. Tesla stock responded jumping 3.2%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The company also said it continues to &#34;make progress&#34; on its next generation platform. Since the Tesla investor day in early March, the company has remained  mostly silent on its <strong>next generation vehicle</strong>, to be produced at its new plant in Mexico. At the annual shareholder meeting, Tesla unveiled a vehicle silhouette.</p><h2 id=\"id_1780359400\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Long-Awaited Semi Hauler Unveiled</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In early December, Tesla <strong>unveiled its long-awaited Semi</strong>, an 18-wheel, long-haul electric freight truck, five years after it was first announced. However, in March, <strong>Tesla ordered a voluntary recall</strong> of 35 Semi trucks due to a parking brake issue.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla began delivering its long-haul Semi trucks to <strong>PepsiCo</strong> (<strong>PEP</strong>) in December. Further, Musk has indicated there are plans to build out a charging network for long-haul trucks.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk did not specify how much the eighteen-wheeler costs. The Semi is capable of traveling an estimated 500 miles per charge. It can accelerate from zero to 60 in 20 seconds, Tesla says. The company expects to ramp production over the next year and aims to deliver 50,000 units in 2024.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Before the recall, PepsiCo planned to deploy 36 Tesla Semi trucks, with 15 in Modesto and 21 in Sacramento.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Pepsi placed its order for 100 EVs when the Semi was first announced in 2017.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla is currently under investigation by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration over possible seat belt failures. Regulators are also probing the EV giant over steering-wheel issues and driver-assistance concerns.</p><h2 id=\"id_1805376575\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Is Tesla Stock A Buy?</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">TSLA stock has an official <strong>cup-with-handle</strong> buy point of 299.29 on a deep consolidation going back to last September. TSLA is on <strong>IBD Leaderboard</strong> and sits on the <strong>IBD 50</strong>.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">After the pullback on Q2 earnings, TSLA is down more than 7% in August.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b8922bb8900e40953117eca27dab845c\" tg-width=\"1135\" tg-height=\"577\"/></p><p>On August 7, Tesla stock fell as low as 242.76 on news that Tesla&#39;s CFO had stepped down, but did close off just under 1% to 251.45. Still, TSLA closed below its 50-day line for the first time since May.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">A decisive move above the 50-day line, which would involve clearing at least the 21-day line, could offer an early entry.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla stock ranks third in IBD&#39;s <strong>automaker industry group</strong>. It has a 98 <strong>Composite Rating</strong> out of 99. Tesla has a 91 <strong>Relative Strength Rating</strong> and its <strong>EPS Rating</strong> is 94 out of 99.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The market status is showing a &#34;uptrend under pressure.&#34; Tesla stock is not a buy right now.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1671069246760","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla Stock A Buy Or A Sell With CFO Zachary Kirkhorn Stepping Down?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs Tesla Stock A Buy Or A Sell With CFO Zachary Kirkhorn Stepping Down?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-08-10 10:12 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.investors.com/news/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-or-a-sell-right-now-as-elon-musk-teases-cybertruck/><strong>Investor’s Business Daily</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla (TSLA) stock has been pulling back since second-quarter financials on July 19, as investor concerns over falling gross margins seems to be outweighing the global EV giant's earnings and revenue-...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.investors.com/news/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-or-a-sell-right-now-as-elon-musk-teases-cybertruck/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.investors.com/news/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-or-a-sell-right-now-as-elon-musk-teases-cybertruck/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1190364524","content_text":"Tesla (TSLA) stock has been pulling back since second-quarter financials on July 19, as investor concerns over falling gross margins seems to be outweighing the global EV giant's earnings and revenue-beating numbers.Meanwhile, Tesla announced on August 7 that Chief Financial Officer Zachary Kirkhorn is stepping down. The EV giant announced in federal filings that Vaibhav Taneja took over from Kirkhorn on Aug. 4. Taneja will now serve as CFO as well as his current role of chief accounting officer.\"During his tenure, Tesla has seen tremendous expansion and growth,\" the company wrote in the SEC filing. \"Tesla thanks Mr. Kirkhorn for his significant contributions.\"Kirkhorn joined Tesla in 2010 and became CFO in 2019. He will remain at Tesla through the end of the year to \"support a seamless transition,\" according to the company.This comes after Tesla reported Q2 profits growing 20% to 91 cents per share while revenue increased 47% to $24.93 billion. Analysts expected profits to edge up around 4% to 80 cents per share with revenue totaling $24.22 billion, up 43% compared with last year.Tesla's total gross profit grew 7% to $4.53 billion in the second quarter. Meanwhile, total gross margins came in at 18.2%, down from 19.3% in Q1 and a decline of 682 basis points vs. last year. Auto gross margins, excluding regulatory credits and leases, came in at 18.1%, down from 18.3% in Q1.That is below the 20% gross margin \"floor\" Tesla previously targeted. Ahead of earnings, a slew of analysts rang warning bells on gross margins.\"The short-term variances in gross margins and profitability really are minor relative to the long term picture,\" Chief Executive Elon Musk told investors during the Q2 earnings call.\"Autonomy will make all of these numbers look silly,\" he added.Stock Falls After EarningsHowever on July 20, TSLA tumbled 9.7% to 262.90, falling below the 21-day line but only giving up July gains.Ahead of earnings, Wood sold tranches of her firm's Tesla stock holdings in consecutive sessions, unloading more than 73,000 shares before the EV giant reported second-quarter financials.Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas on July 24 wrote he expects Tesla's full-year auto gross margins to remain below 20% until 2025.Cathie Wood sold another 20,700 shares of Tesla stock on July 25 for around $5.49 million, based on the closing price of 265.28.Tesla Stock And MuskThere is never a dull moment for Tesla and Musk, with the two inextricably linked. Since Musk took over Twitter on Oct. 28, purchasing the social media platform for $44 billion, some longtime Tesla stock bulls have worried Musk's focus on Twitter, along with negative attention, is weighing down Tesla stock.Musk appeared to lessen those fears when he hired Linda Yaccarino, NBCUniversal's advertising chief, as the new CEO for X Corp., formerly known as Twitter. The Tesla chief added Yaccarino will focus on business operations while he will work on product design and new technology.Wedbush analyst Daniel Ives wrote the news ends some of the \"distraction risk around the Tesla story.\"With TSLA shares pulling back after earnings, the top question for investors is always, when is it a good time to buy or sell Tesla stock.Tesla and Musk are betting big on the Cybertruck and autonomous vehicle technology, along with a possible tailwind from the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).Tesla A Monster Stock Over Much Of Its HistoryAlmost single-handedly, Musk has turned the auto industry on its head, essentially forcing it to get aboard the electric-vehicle train.It's a reason why Tesla has been a monster stock over much of its history, especially during its stratospheric run from mid-2019 to late 2021. The stock hit a bear market low of 101.84 on Jan. 6, but roared back until Q1 earnings.On April 19, Tesla reported a big first-quarter earnings decline while revenue missed views. Profit margins for the global EV giant also fell below 20% as the company executed an aggressive price-slashing strategy in the first part of 2023.Tesla reported revenue increasing 24% to $23.33 billion with EPS of 85 cents, a 20% decline compared to 2022.The EV company's total gross profit came in at $4.5 billion, with Tesla's profit gross margin at 19.3%, down from 23.8% in Q4 and 29.1% a year earlier.Tesla's Global Price Cutting StrategyTesla slashed prices worldwide multiple times in 2023, starting in January and continuing into April. The only exception is China, where Tesla cut prices significantly in late October before the reductions in early January.On April 14, Tesla reduced prices in several European markets. Tesla also dropped the price of its electric vehicles in Israel and Singapore in order to increase demand, expanding a worldwide discount push that began in China in January.The global EV maker also significantly reduced prices in the U.S. and Europe on Jan. 13, then reduced European prices again in early March.Tesla Stock: Betting On Autonomous Vehicles And The CybertruckMusk has long touted Tesla's Full Self-Driving (FSD) technology and the potential value it brings to the brand.The Tesla CEO told investors during the Q1 earnings call the \"value of a car that is autonomous is enormous.\"Musk also stressed that improvements in the FSD beta are \"really quite dramatic.\"\"The trend is very clearly toward full autonomy, and I hesitate to say this, but I think we'll do it this year,\" Musk said, referring to self-driving vehicles.Meanwhile, Musk has confirmed that a Cybertruck delivery event will take place later in 2023.Tesla reported in its Q2 financials the Cybertruck \"remains on track to begin initial production later this year at Gigafactory Texas.\" However, the EV giant added it is \"testing Cybertruck vehicles around the world for final certification and validation.\"\"We can't wait to start delivering it later this year,\" Musk told investors Wednesday, referring to the Cybertruck.On July 15, Tesla tweeted a photo of the first Tesla Cybertruck made at its Austin plant. Tesla stock responded jumping 3.2%.The company also said it continues to \"make progress\" on its next generation platform. Since the Tesla investor day in early March, the company has remained  mostly silent on its next generation vehicle, to be produced at its new plant in Mexico. At the annual shareholder meeting, Tesla unveiled a vehicle silhouette.The Long-Awaited Semi Hauler UnveiledIn early December, Tesla unveiled its long-awaited Semi, an 18-wheel, long-haul electric freight truck, five years after it was first announced. However, in March, Tesla ordered a voluntary recall of 35 Semi trucks due to a parking brake issue.Tesla began delivering its long-haul Semi trucks to PepsiCo (PEP) in December. Further, Musk has indicated there are plans to build out a charging network for long-haul trucks.Musk did not specify how much the eighteen-wheeler costs. The Semi is capable of traveling an estimated 500 miles per charge. It can accelerate from zero to 60 in 20 seconds, Tesla says. The company expects to ramp production over the next year and aims to deliver 50,000 units in 2024.Before the recall, PepsiCo planned to deploy 36 Tesla Semi trucks, with 15 in Modesto and 21 in Sacramento.Pepsi placed its order for 100 EVs when the Semi was first announced in 2017.Tesla is currently under investigation by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration over possible seat belt failures. Regulators are also probing the EV giant over steering-wheel issues and driver-assistance concerns.Is Tesla Stock A Buy?TSLA stock has an official cup-with-handle buy point of 299.29 on a deep consolidation going back to last September. TSLA is on IBD Leaderboard and sits on the IBD 50.After the pullback on Q2 earnings, TSLA is down more than 7% in August.On August 7, Tesla stock fell as low as 242.76 on news that Tesla's CFO had stepped down, but did close off just under 1% to 251.45. Still, TSLA closed below its 50-day line for the first time since May.A decisive move above the 50-day line, which would involve clearing at least the 21-day line, could offer an early entry.Tesla stock ranks third in IBD's automaker industry group. It has a 98 Composite Rating out of 99. Tesla has a 91 Relative Strength Rating and its EPS Rating is 94 out of 99.The market status is showing a \"uptrend under pressure.\" Tesla stock is not a buy right now.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":63,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9986029948,"gmtCreate":1666857818784,"gmtModify":1676537817992,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Honestly it will not go up cos many buyers due to its cheap price! Just wait and see","listText":"Honestly it will not go up cos many buyers due to its cheap price! Just wait and see","text":"Honestly it will not go up cos many buyers due to its cheap price! Just wait and see","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9986029948","repostId":"1169598897","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1169598897","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1666857628,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1169598897?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-10-27 16:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Meta Stock Plunged 19% in Premarket Trading","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1169598897","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Facebook parent Meta Platforms Inc on Wednesday forecast a weak holiday quarter and significantly mo","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Facebook parent Meta Platforms Inc on Wednesday forecast a weak holiday quarter and significantly more costs next year, sending shares down 19% in premarket trading Thursday as investors voiced skepticism about the company&#39;s pricey metaverse bets.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/482fc5c0a1edad7c97f804c35ad90fd4\" tg-width=\"796\" tg-height=\"615\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>The forecast knocked about $67 billion off Meta&#39;s stock market value in extended trade, adding to the more than half a trillion dollars in value already lost this year.</p><p>The disappointing outlook comes as Meta is contending with slowing global economic growth, competition from TikTok, privacy changes from Apple, concerns about massive spending on the metaverse and the ever-present threat of regulation.</p><p>Executives announced plans to consolidate offices and said Meta would keep headcount flat through the end of 2023.</p><p>Revenue fell 4% in the third quarter ended Sept. 30. That deepened a revenue decline begun the previous quarter, when the company posted a first-ever revenue drop of 0.9%, although it was less steep than the 5.6% decline Wall Street had expected, according to IBES data from Refinitiv.</p><p>More troubling was the company&#39;s estimate that fourth-quarter revenue would be in the range of $30 billion to $32.5 billion, mostly under analysts&#39; estimates of $32.2 billion, according to the Refinitiv data.</p><p>Meta also forecast that its full-year 2023 total expenses would be $96 billion to $101 billion, significantly higher than a revised estimate for 2022 total expenses of $85 billion to $87 billion.</p><p>That includes an estimated $2.9 billion in charges over the course of both 2022 and 2023 from the office downsizing.</p><p>It also forecast that operating losses associated with the Reality Labs unit responsible for its metaverse investments would grow in 2023 and pledged to &#34;pace&#34; investments after that.</p><p>Total costs for the third quarter came in above estimates at $22.1 billion, compared with $18.6 billion the year prior.</p><h2>&#39;EXPERIMENTAL BETS&#39;</h2><p>Meta is carrying out several overhauls of its apps and ads products to keep its core business pumping out profits, while also investing $10 billion a year in a bet on metaverse hardware and software.</p><p>Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg has said he expects the metaverse investments to take about a decade to bear fruit. In the meantime, he has had to freeze hiring, shutter projects and reorganize teams to trim costs.</p><p>An analyst on the investor call told Zuckerberg investors were worried that the company had taken on &#34;just too many experimental bets&#34; and asked the chief executive why he believed his gambles would pay off.</p><p>Meta executives defended the spending, saying most of the company&#39;s expenses were still going toward the core business, including investments in more expensive AI-related servers, infrastructure and data centers.</p><p>Zuckerberg added that he expected the metaverse work to provide returns over time.</p><p>&#34;I appreciate the patience,&#34; he said. &#34;And I think that those who are patient and invest with us will end up being rewarded.&#34;</p><p>Zuckerberg said plays of Meta&#39;s TikTok-like short-video product Reels now number more than 140 billion across Facebook and Instagram each day, up 50% from six months ago, and its revenue run rates are now $3 billion annually.</p><p>He believes Reels is gaining against rival TikTok, he added, with Reels being reshared more than 1 billion times a day.</p><p>Meta also posted user growth figures roughly in line with expectations, including a year-over-year increase of monthly active users on flagship app Facebook.</p><p>&#34;The worry for Meta is that this pain is likely to continue into 2023 as cost headwinds remain a real challenge and the strong dollar impacts on overseas earnings,&#34; said Ben Barringer, equity research analyst at Quilter Cheviot.</p><p>&#34;Given revenues were down at a time when costs have grown significantly, modest user growth and impressions simply isn&#39;t going to bail you out.&#34;</p><p>Net income in the third quarter fell to $4.40 billion, or $1.64 per share, from $9.19 billion, or $3.22 per share, a year earlier, its worst showing since 2019 and the fourth straight quarter of profit decline.</p><p>Analysts had expected a profit of $1.86 per share.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Meta Stock Plunged 19% in Premarket Trading</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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That deepened a revenue decline begun the previous quarter, when the company posted a first-ever revenue drop of 0.9%, although it was less steep than the 5.6% decline Wall Street had expected, according to IBES data from Refinitiv.</p><p>More troubling was the company&#39;s estimate that fourth-quarter revenue would be in the range of $30 billion to $32.5 billion, mostly under analysts&#39; estimates of $32.2 billion, according to the Refinitiv data.</p><p>Meta also forecast that its full-year 2023 total expenses would be $96 billion to $101 billion, significantly higher than a revised estimate for 2022 total expenses of $85 billion to $87 billion.</p><p>That includes an estimated $2.9 billion in charges over the course of both 2022 and 2023 from the office downsizing.</p><p>It also forecast that operating losses associated with the Reality Labs unit responsible for its metaverse investments would grow in 2023 and pledged to &#34;pace&#34; investments after that.</p><p>Total costs for the third quarter came in above estimates at $22.1 billion, compared with $18.6 billion the year prior.</p><h2>&#39;EXPERIMENTAL BETS&#39;</h2><p>Meta is carrying out several overhauls of its apps and ads products to keep its core business pumping out profits, while also investing $10 billion a year in a bet on metaverse hardware and software.</p><p>Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg has said he expects the metaverse investments to take about a decade to bear fruit. In the meantime, he has had to freeze hiring, shutter projects and reorganize teams to trim costs.</p><p>An analyst on the investor call told Zuckerberg investors were worried that the company had taken on &#34;just too many experimental bets&#34; and asked the chief executive why he believed his gambles would pay off.</p><p>Meta executives defended the spending, saying most of the company&#39;s expenses were still going toward the core business, including investments in more expensive AI-related servers, infrastructure and data centers.</p><p>Zuckerberg added that he expected the metaverse work to provide returns over time.</p><p>&#34;I appreciate the patience,&#34; he said. &#34;And I think that those who are patient and invest with us will end up being rewarded.&#34;</p><p>Zuckerberg said plays of Meta&#39;s TikTok-like short-video product Reels now number more than 140 billion across Facebook and Instagram each day, up 50% from six months ago, and its revenue run rates are now $3 billion annually.</p><p>He believes Reels is gaining against rival TikTok, he added, with Reels being reshared more than 1 billion times a day.</p><p>Meta also posted user growth figures roughly in line with expectations, including a year-over-year increase of monthly active users on flagship app Facebook.</p><p>&#34;The worry for Meta is that this pain is likely to continue into 2023 as cost headwinds remain a real challenge and the strong dollar impacts on overseas earnings,&#34; said Ben Barringer, equity research analyst at Quilter Cheviot.</p><p>&#34;Given revenues were down at a time when costs have grown significantly, modest user growth and impressions simply isn&#39;t going to bail you out.&#34;</p><p>Net income in the third quarter fell to $4.40 billion, or $1.64 per share, from $9.19 billion, or $3.22 per share, a year earlier, its worst showing since 2019 and the fourth straight quarter of profit decline.</p><p>Analysts had expected a profit of $1.86 per share.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1169598897","content_text":"Facebook parent Meta Platforms Inc on Wednesday forecast a weak holiday quarter and significantly more costs next year, sending shares down 19% in premarket trading Thursday as investors voiced skepticism about the company's pricey metaverse bets.The forecast knocked about $67 billion off Meta's stock market value in extended trade, adding to the more than half a trillion dollars in value already lost this year.The disappointing outlook comes as Meta is contending with slowing global economic growth, competition from TikTok, privacy changes from Apple, concerns about massive spending on the metaverse and the ever-present threat of regulation.Executives announced plans to consolidate offices and said Meta would keep headcount flat through the end of 2023.Revenue fell 4% in the third quarter ended Sept. 30. That deepened a revenue decline begun the previous quarter, when the company posted a first-ever revenue drop of 0.9%, although it was less steep than the 5.6% decline Wall Street had expected, according to IBES data from Refinitiv.More troubling was the company's estimate that fourth-quarter revenue would be in the range of $30 billion to $32.5 billion, mostly under analysts' estimates of $32.2 billion, according to the Refinitiv data.Meta also forecast that its full-year 2023 total expenses would be $96 billion to $101 billion, significantly higher than a revised estimate for 2022 total expenses of $85 billion to $87 billion.That includes an estimated $2.9 billion in charges over the course of both 2022 and 2023 from the office downsizing.It also forecast that operating losses associated with the Reality Labs unit responsible for its metaverse investments would grow in 2023 and pledged to \"pace\" investments after that.Total costs for the third quarter came in above estimates at $22.1 billion, compared with $18.6 billion the year prior.'EXPERIMENTAL BETS'Meta is carrying out several overhauls of its apps and ads products to keep its core business pumping out profits, while also investing $10 billion a year in a bet on metaverse hardware and software.Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg has said he expects the metaverse investments to take about a decade to bear fruit. In the meantime, he has had to freeze hiring, shutter projects and reorganize teams to trim costs.An analyst on the investor call told Zuckerberg investors were worried that the company had taken on \"just too many experimental bets\" and asked the chief executive why he believed his gambles would pay off.Meta executives defended the spending, saying most of the company's expenses were still going toward the core business, including investments in more expensive AI-related servers, infrastructure and data centers.Zuckerberg added that he expected the metaverse work to provide returns over time.\"I appreciate the patience,\" he said. \"And I think that those who are patient and invest with us will end up being rewarded.\"Zuckerberg said plays of Meta's TikTok-like short-video product Reels now number more than 140 billion across Facebook and Instagram each day, up 50% from six months ago, and its revenue run rates are now $3 billion annually.He believes Reels is gaining against rival TikTok, he added, with Reels being reshared more than 1 billion times a day.Meta also posted user growth figures roughly in line with expectations, including a year-over-year increase of monthly active users on flagship app Facebook.\"The worry for Meta is that this pain is likely to continue into 2023 as cost headwinds remain a real challenge and the strong dollar impacts on overseas earnings,\" said Ben Barringer, equity research analyst at Quilter Cheviot.\"Given revenues were down at a time when costs have grown significantly, modest user growth and impressions simply isn't going to bail you out.\"Net income in the third quarter fell to $4.40 billion, or $1.64 per share, from $9.19 billion, or $3.22 per share, a year earlier, its worst showing since 2019 and the fourth straight quarter of profit decline.Analysts had expected a profit of $1.86 per share.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":270,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9910194277,"gmtCreate":1663571222599,"gmtModify":1676537293038,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"All this person wants to say is..he/she is buying on the dip! Wats it got to do with S&amp;P 500? Crap report","listText":"All this person wants to say is..he/she is buying on the dip! Wats it got to do with S&amp;P 500? Crap report","text":"All this person wants to say is..he/she is buying on the dip! Wats it got to do with S&P 500? Crap report","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9910194277","repostId":"1177047620","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1177047620","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1663570508,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1177047620?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-19 14:55","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The S&P 500: There Will Be Blood","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1177047620","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryThe S&P 500 and stocks, in general, are dropping again.Despite an optimistic run in the summe","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><b>Summary</b></p><ul><li>The S&amp;P 500 and stocks, in general, are dropping again.</li><li>Despite an optimistic run in the summer, the reality is setting in once again.</li><li>Inflation is more persistent than expected, and the Fed likely has to do much more tightening.</li><li>Many stocks are still expensive, and valuations remain relatively high.</li><li>The ultimate bottom for the S&amp;P 500 may come at 3,000 or lower. I am hedging and buying high-quality stocks on big dips.</li></ul><p>The S&amp;P 500/SPX (SP500) hit a low of around 3,640 in mid-June, roughly a 25% drop from the top. Then, we saw a significant counter-trend rally into mid-August. However, despite the late summer stock market optimism, it&#39;s doubtful that the bear market is over. Recent inflation numbers illustrate that the economic climate remains highly challenging, and the Fed needs to do more. Unfortunately, interest rates are moving higher, and stocks will probably continue dropping.</p><p>Moreover, we haven&#39;t seen many of the hallmark signs of a long-term bottom. There should be more blood in the streets, and the ultimate bear market bottom could arrive at around 3,000 in the S&amp;P 500 in a base case outcome. I&#39;m capitalizing on the volatility by hedging and buying high-quality stocks on big dips.</p><p>The Technical Image - Very Bearish Now</p><p><b>SPX 1-Year Chart</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/86a0e3641f8acc8cb2a23a7d95ff08fd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"676\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>SPX(StockCharts.com )</p><p>The S&amp;P 500&#39;s bear market began right around the start of 2022. Since the bearish trend began, we&#39;ve seen a series of lower highs and lower lows. The most recent high occurred in mid-August when I put out a near-term top alert. Now, things are becoming more bearish. After the recent high, the market attempted to rebound but got smacked down by Jerome Powell&#39;s Jackson Hole remarks. More recently, the market tried to muster another rally, but the higher-than-anticipated inflation numbers brought a quick end to that attempt.</p><p>Now, we&#39;re looking at an increasingly bearish technical image as the SPX is putting in a pessimistic head and shoulders pattern and is on the verge of busting through critical 3,900 support. Once below this level, the S&amp;P 500 should at least retest the prior low around 3,700-3,600. However, a likelier scenario is that the S&amp;P will make a lower low, dropping the SPX down into the 3,400-3,000 range next.</p><h2>What Do Jackson Hole And Inflation Have In Common?</h2><p>At Jackson Hole, we learned just how intent the Fed is on battling inflation and how bearish this phenomenon is for the stock market. I wrote about the Fed&#39;s bearish symposium several weeks ago. The key takeaway from Chair Powell&#39;s speech is that inflation is much more persistent and challenging to deal with than previously expected. The Fed must do much more to lower inflation. The dynamic of high-interest rates, slower growth, and a worsening labor market will bring substantial pain to households and businesses.</p><p>Now, Let&#39;s Look At Inflation</p><p><b>CPI Inflation</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6e415ae81767865727859c61ace2822d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"313\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>CPI inflation(TradingEconomics.com )</p><p>While inflation has decreased from the 9.1% reading, it remains remarkably high. Inflation is running hotter than we&#39;ve seen in about 40 years now. The primary issue is that the Fed has been raising interest rates and implementing other tightening measures like QT, but we&#39;re seeing a minimal effect on inflation. Therefore, the Fed needs to do more. However, more tightening will further constrict economic growth and decrease consumer confidence. Additionally, higher inflation, lower growth, and worsening spending negatively impact corporate profits and should lead to more pain as we advance.</p><h2>Don&#39;t Fight The Fed</h2><p>Wise people have told me, &#34;you don&#39;t fight the Fed.&#34; You don&#39;t want to fight the Fed when the central bank is easing. We saw ultra-loose monetary policy since the 2008 financial crisis, and stocks did great for much of that time. However, we are in a completely different economic environment now. As the Fed pulls liquidity out of markets, the cost of borrowing increases, growth slows, sentiment worsens, and risk assets deflate. Furthermore, we&#39;ve underestimated the severity of the inflation problem and the Fed&#39;s commitment to making it &#34;go away.&#34;</p><p><b>Rate Probabilities</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/50e5b344a6418c8597ba3e52b0570b80\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"496\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Fed Watch(CMEGroup.com )</p><p>Just one month ago, the market expected a 50 basis point hike at the upcoming Fed meeting. There is about a 25% probability that we may see a 100 basis point move. Whether we see a 75 basis point hike or a full 1% increase next week is not that relevant. The fact is that the Fed is intent on increasing interest rates until inflation is under control. Unfortunately, the benchmark will be above 3% after next week&#39;s meeting. With rates at such elevated levels, economic growth will weaken further, and there is no telling when the inflation problem may end.</p><h2>Uncertainty Ahead For Stocks</h2><p>There is increased uncertainty surrounding inflation, growth, Fed tightening, the consumer, recession, corporate earnings, and much more. Typically, I would say that the stock market will climb the wall of worry, but this wall of worry may be too high to climb.</p><p>One of the most troubling factors is that we don&#39;t know how deep the downturn will cut into corporate results. We already see declining revenues, worsening margins, and fewer profits at major corporations. However, these declines could continue, and future downward earnings revisions could persist. Additionally, valuations remain relatively high, and this dynamic could mean lower stock prices before this bear market gets sorted out.</p><h2>The Valuation Dynamic</h2><p><b>The Shiller P/E Ratio</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/32d6272d7dbe21608d8468cf653f5ad0\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"301\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Shiller P/E ratio(multpl.com)</p><p>We see the Shiller P/E coming down lately, but the drop has just begun. We can see that once the Shiller P/E drops, it rarely stops until a relatively low has been achieved. We should see the CAPE P/E ratio decline as the economy weakens, earnings decrease, and valuations come down. A reasonably conservative target could be a Shiller P/E ratio of approximately 20. While the historical mean is only 17, the market has become accustomed to higher P/E ratio valuations in recent years. Therefore, we may see increased buy interest around the 20 level, if the SPX doesn&#39;t overshoot to the downside. A decline to a 20 Shiller P/E ratio would equate to an approximately 28% drop from current levels, roughly coinciding with the 2,800 level in the S&amp;P 500. Therefore, my ultimate bottom in the S&amp;P 500 target remains at 3,000. However, the market may overshoot lower into the 2,800-2,400 range in a bearish case outcome.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The S&P 500: There Will Be Blood</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe S&P 500: There Will Be Blood\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-19 14:55 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541687-sp-500-there-will-be-blood><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryThe S&P 500 and stocks, in general, are dropping again.Despite an optimistic run in the summer, the reality is setting in once again.Inflation is more persistent than expected, and the Fed ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541687-sp-500-there-will-be-blood\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541687-sp-500-there-will-be-blood","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1177047620","content_text":"SummaryThe S&P 500 and stocks, in general, are dropping again.Despite an optimistic run in the summer, the reality is setting in once again.Inflation is more persistent than expected, and the Fed likely has to do much more tightening.Many stocks are still expensive, and valuations remain relatively high.The ultimate bottom for the S&P 500 may come at 3,000 or lower. I am hedging and buying high-quality stocks on big dips.The S&P 500/SPX (SP500) hit a low of around 3,640 in mid-June, roughly a 25% drop from the top. Then, we saw a significant counter-trend rally into mid-August. However, despite the late summer stock market optimism, it's doubtful that the bear market is over. Recent inflation numbers illustrate that the economic climate remains highly challenging, and the Fed needs to do more. Unfortunately, interest rates are moving higher, and stocks will probably continue dropping.Moreover, we haven't seen many of the hallmark signs of a long-term bottom. There should be more blood in the streets, and the ultimate bear market bottom could arrive at around 3,000 in the S&P 500 in a base case outcome. I'm capitalizing on the volatility by hedging and buying high-quality stocks on big dips.The Technical Image - Very Bearish NowSPX 1-Year ChartSPX(StockCharts.com )The S&P 500's bear market began right around the start of 2022. Since the bearish trend began, we've seen a series of lower highs and lower lows. The most recent high occurred in mid-August when I put out a near-term top alert. Now, things are becoming more bearish. After the recent high, the market attempted to rebound but got smacked down by Jerome Powell's Jackson Hole remarks. More recently, the market tried to muster another rally, but the higher-than-anticipated inflation numbers brought a quick end to that attempt.Now, we're looking at an increasingly bearish technical image as the SPX is putting in a pessimistic head and shoulders pattern and is on the verge of busting through critical 3,900 support. Once below this level, the S&P 500 should at least retest the prior low around 3,700-3,600. However, a likelier scenario is that the S&P will make a lower low, dropping the SPX down into the 3,400-3,000 range next.What Do Jackson Hole And Inflation Have In Common?At Jackson Hole, we learned just how intent the Fed is on battling inflation and how bearish this phenomenon is for the stock market. I wrote about the Fed's bearish symposium several weeks ago. The key takeaway from Chair Powell's speech is that inflation is much more persistent and challenging to deal with than previously expected. The Fed must do much more to lower inflation. The dynamic of high-interest rates, slower growth, and a worsening labor market will bring substantial pain to households and businesses.Now, Let's Look At InflationCPI InflationCPI inflation(TradingEconomics.com )While inflation has decreased from the 9.1% reading, it remains remarkably high. Inflation is running hotter than we've seen in about 40 years now. The primary issue is that the Fed has been raising interest rates and implementing other tightening measures like QT, but we're seeing a minimal effect on inflation. Therefore, the Fed needs to do more. However, more tightening will further constrict economic growth and decrease consumer confidence. Additionally, higher inflation, lower growth, and worsening spending negatively impact corporate profits and should lead to more pain as we advance.Don't Fight The FedWise people have told me, \"you don't fight the Fed.\" You don't want to fight the Fed when the central bank is easing. We saw ultra-loose monetary policy since the 2008 financial crisis, and stocks did great for much of that time. However, we are in a completely different economic environment now. As the Fed pulls liquidity out of markets, the cost of borrowing increases, growth slows, sentiment worsens, and risk assets deflate. Furthermore, we've underestimated the severity of the inflation problem and the Fed's commitment to making it \"go away.\"Rate ProbabilitiesFed Watch(CMEGroup.com )Just one month ago, the market expected a 50 basis point hike at the upcoming Fed meeting. There is about a 25% probability that we may see a 100 basis point move. Whether we see a 75 basis point hike or a full 1% increase next week is not that relevant. The fact is that the Fed is intent on increasing interest rates until inflation is under control. Unfortunately, the benchmark will be above 3% after next week's meeting. With rates at such elevated levels, economic growth will weaken further, and there is no telling when the inflation problem may end.Uncertainty Ahead For StocksThere is increased uncertainty surrounding inflation, growth, Fed tightening, the consumer, recession, corporate earnings, and much more. Typically, I would say that the stock market will climb the wall of worry, but this wall of worry may be too high to climb.One of the most troubling factors is that we don't know how deep the downturn will cut into corporate results. We already see declining revenues, worsening margins, and fewer profits at major corporations. However, these declines could continue, and future downward earnings revisions could persist. Additionally, valuations remain relatively high, and this dynamic could mean lower stock prices before this bear market gets sorted out.The Valuation DynamicThe Shiller P/E RatioShiller P/E ratio(multpl.com)We see the Shiller P/E coming down lately, but the drop has just begun. We can see that once the Shiller P/E drops, it rarely stops until a relatively low has been achieved. We should see the CAPE P/E ratio decline as the economy weakens, earnings decrease, and valuations come down. A reasonably conservative target could be a Shiller P/E ratio of approximately 20. While the historical mean is only 17, the market has become accustomed to higher P/E ratio valuations in recent years. Therefore, we may see increased buy interest around the 20 level, if the SPX doesn't overshoot to the downside. A decline to a 20 Shiller P/E ratio would equate to an approximately 28% drop from current levels, roughly coinciding with the 2,800 level in the S&P 500. Therefore, my ultimate bottom in the S&P 500 target remains at 3,000. However, the market may overshoot lower into the 2,800-2,400 range in a bearish case outcome.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":83,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":241568791990528,"gmtCreate":1700005270865,"gmtModify":1700005275244,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So how Michael from Hsbc..Will Tesla drop more tis week after tat analysis last week??&nbsp;","listText":"So how Michael from Hsbc..Will Tesla drop more tis week after tat analysis last week??&nbsp;","text":"So how Michael from Hsbc..Will Tesla drop more tis week after tat analysis last week??","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/241568791990528","repostId":"1126833261","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1126833261","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1700003014,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1126833261?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-15 07:03","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Post-Bell | Nasdaq Rallies 2.37%; Nvidia Closes at Record High While Sea Stock Tumbles 22%","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1126833261","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"The S&P 500 and Nasdaq posted their biggest daily percentage gains since April 27 on Tuesday as softer-than-expected inflation data supported the view that the Federal Reserve may be done raising inte","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>The S&amp;P 500 and Nasdaq posted their biggest daily percentage gains since April 27 on Tuesday as softer-than-expected inflation data supported the view that the Federal Reserve may be done raising interest rates.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bd61e48bf690b330814bbab94ca27e3e\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"1920\"/></p><h2 id=\"id_966889051\">Market Snapshot</h2><p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 489.83 points, or 1.43%, to 34,827.70, the S&amp;P 500 rose 84.15 points, or 1.91%, to 4,495.70 and the Nasdaq Composite rose 326.64 points, or 2.37%, to 14,094.38.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2eaa4fe597138e465b2f0882d96bc42c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"945\" tg-height=\"153\"/></p><h2 id=\"id_3350154466\">Market Movers</h2><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SE\">Sea Ltd.</a> swung back to a loss in the third quarter, hit by flagging consumption and intensifying competition from Alibaba and TikTok on its home turf. The stock fell 22.07% on Tuesday after the company posted a net loss of $149 million, compared with a profit of $322 million the previous quarter. Southeast Asia’s largest internet firm reported a 4.9% rise in sales from a year earlier to $3.3 billion, versus the average estimate of $3.2 billion.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> jumped 6.1% to $237.41 after shares of the EV maker closed 4.2% higher on Monday. The gains in Tuesday’s session put the price up about $25 from where it closed last Thursday, when HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall launched coverage of the stock with a Sell rating and a price target of $146.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">Nvidia</a> stock continued to defy gravity Tuesday, extending gains to the tenth straight session and closing at a record high of $496.56, up 2.13%. In addition to the stock benefiting from today&#39;s risk-on trade on the lower CPI report, the upside is being attributed to the release of its latest AI system, the H200, and positioning into the company&#39;s third-quarter earnings results next week (Nov. 21, 2023). Analysts are bullish on the stock ahead of those results amid the continued uptake of AI.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HD\">Home Depot</a> reported third-quarter earnings that beat analysts’ estimates and the stock rose 5.4%. The home-improvement retailer said same-store sales in the period declined 3.1%. U.S. same-store sales fell 3.5%. Home Depot said it expects fiscal-year same-store sales to fall 3% to 4%. It expects per-share earnings in the fiscal year down 9% to 11%.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FSR\">Fisker</a> slid 19% after the electric-vehicle maker reported a wider-than-expected third-quarter loss and sales of $71.8 million that missed estimates of $143.1 million. Fisker said it expects to produce 13,000 to 17,000 units this year. In August, the company said it planned to build about 20,000 to 23,000 units, which was trimmed from earlier guidance. </p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SNAP\">Snap </a> rose 7.5% after <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon.com </a> said it would allow Snapchat users in the U.S. to buy some products listed on the e-commerce giant’s website directly from the Snapchat app, Reuters reported.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/VFC\">VF Corp. </a> was among the leading performers in the S&amp;P 500, rising 10% to $15.57. The stock was on track for its best day in decades, offering investors a much-needed lift after the parent company of Vans and The North Face turned in disappointing quarterly results last month.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CSIQ\">Canadian Solar </a> fell 2.9% after third-quarter earnings missed analysts’ estimates by a wide margin and the company’s revenue forecast for the fourth quarter was well below expectations.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AZTA\">Azenta </a> was up 14% after the life-sciences company reported fourth-quarter earnings that beat analysts’ expectations and said it would buy back an extra $500 million in stock in fiscal 2024. </p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TTWO\">Take-Two Interactive Software </a> was up 2.2% to $153.40 after the videogame publisher was upgraded to Buy from Hold at Deutsche Bank and the price target was boosted to $175 from $155.</p><h2 id=\"id_3479401677\">Market News</h2><h3 id=\"id_2893242513\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Slowing US Inflation Boosts Hopes Fed Done With Rate Hikes</h3><p>U.S. consumer prices were unchanged in October as Americans paid less for gasoline, and the annual rise in underlying inflation was the smallest in two years, bolstering the view that the Federal Reserve was probably done raising interest rates.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Though rents continued to rise last month, the pace of the increase slowed considerably from September. The softer-than-expected inflation readings reported by the Labor Department&#39;s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) on Tuesday pushed U.S. Treasury yields lower and sparked a stock market rally.</p><p>In the 12 months through October, the CPI climbed 3.2% after rising 3.7% in September.</p><h3 id=\"id_3103650582\">Bridgewater Boosts Stakes in 3M, Best Buy, Exits Apple, Shopify</h3><p>Bridgewater Associates, the hedge fund founded by Ray Dalio, boosted its holdings in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MMM\">3M</a> Company to 71.3K shares from 63.7K shares, Abbott Laboratories (NYSE:ABT) to 2.07M shares from 1.82M shares, Best Buy Co. (NYSE:BBY) to 144.7K shares from 116K shares during the third quarter, according to its latest 13F filing.</p><p>The firm exited its positions in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">Apple</a> and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SHOP\">Shopify</a>.</p><h3 id=\"id_3059217215\">Tesla Remains a &#34;Top Pick&#34; at Morgan Stanley Post UAW</h3><p>Morgan Stanley reiterated <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> as one of their “Top Picks” with an Overweight rating, and a 12-month price target of $380.00, after the UAW made historic gains during labor contract negotiations with Detroit’s “Big Three” automakers.</p><h3 id=\"id_2474595017\">Musk’s SpaceX Seen Resuming Starship Launches as Soon as Friday</h3><p>SpaceX could be nearing the next launch of its Starship rocket as soon as Friday, according to a federal document, almost seven months after the massive vehicle was grounded in the wake of its explosive debut flight.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The US Federal Aviation Administration identified Nov. 17 as a possible launch date, with Nov. 18 and 19 as backups, according to an advisory posted on its website. 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The stock fell 22.07% on Tuesday after the company posted a net loss of $149 million, compared with a profit of $322 million the previous quarter. Southeast Asia’s largest internet firm reported a 4.9% rise in sales from a year earlier to $3.3 billion, versus the average estimate of $3.2 billion.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> jumped 6.1% to $237.41 after shares of the EV maker closed 4.2% higher on Monday. The gains in Tuesday’s session put the price up about $25 from where it closed last Thursday, when HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall launched coverage of the stock with a Sell rating and a price target of $146.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">Nvidia</a> stock continued to defy gravity Tuesday, extending gains to the tenth straight session and closing at a record high of $496.56, up 2.13%. In addition to the stock benefiting from today&#39;s risk-on trade on the lower CPI report, the upside is being attributed to the release of its latest AI system, the H200, and positioning into the company&#39;s third-quarter earnings results next week (Nov. 21, 2023). Analysts are bullish on the stock ahead of those results amid the continued uptake of AI.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/HD\">Home Depot</a> reported third-quarter earnings that beat analysts’ estimates and the stock rose 5.4%. The home-improvement retailer said same-store sales in the period declined 3.1%. U.S. same-store sales fell 3.5%. Home Depot said it expects fiscal-year same-store sales to fall 3% to 4%. It expects per-share earnings in the fiscal year down 9% to 11%.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FSR\">Fisker</a> slid 19% after the electric-vehicle maker reported a wider-than-expected third-quarter loss and sales of $71.8 million that missed estimates of $143.1 million. Fisker said it expects to produce 13,000 to 17,000 units this year. In August, the company said it planned to build about 20,000 to 23,000 units, which was trimmed from earlier guidance. </p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SNAP\">Snap </a> rose 7.5% after <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon.com </a> said it would allow Snapchat users in the U.S. to buy some products listed on the e-commerce giant’s website directly from the Snapchat app, Reuters reported.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/VFC\">VF Corp. </a> was among the leading performers in the S&amp;P 500, rising 10% to $15.57. The stock was on track for its best day in decades, offering investors a much-needed lift after the parent company of Vans and The North Face turned in disappointing quarterly results last month.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CSIQ\">Canadian Solar </a> fell 2.9% after third-quarter earnings missed analysts’ estimates by a wide margin and the company’s revenue forecast for the fourth quarter was well below expectations.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AZTA\">Azenta </a> was up 14% after the life-sciences company reported fourth-quarter earnings that beat analysts’ expectations and said it would buy back an extra $500 million in stock in fiscal 2024. </p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TTWO\">Take-Two Interactive Software </a> was up 2.2% to $153.40 after the videogame publisher was upgraded to Buy from Hold at Deutsche Bank and the price target was boosted to $175 from $155.</p><h2 id=\"id_3479401677\">Market News</h2><h3 id=\"id_2893242513\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Slowing US Inflation Boosts Hopes Fed Done With Rate Hikes</h3><p>U.S. consumer prices were unchanged in October as Americans paid less for gasoline, and the annual rise in underlying inflation was the smallest in two years, bolstering the view that the Federal Reserve was probably done raising interest rates.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Though rents continued to rise last month, the pace of the increase slowed considerably from September. The softer-than-expected inflation readings reported by the Labor Department&#39;s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) on Tuesday pushed U.S. Treasury yields lower and sparked a stock market rally.</p><p>In the 12 months through October, the CPI climbed 3.2% after rising 3.7% in September.</p><h3 id=\"id_3103650582\">Bridgewater Boosts Stakes in 3M, Best Buy, Exits Apple, Shopify</h3><p>Bridgewater Associates, the hedge fund founded by Ray Dalio, boosted its holdings in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MMM\">3M</a> Company to 71.3K shares from 63.7K shares, Abbott Laboratories (NYSE:ABT) to 2.07M shares from 1.82M shares, Best Buy Co. (NYSE:BBY) to 144.7K shares from 116K shares during the third quarter, according to its latest 13F filing.</p><p>The firm exited its positions in <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">Apple</a> and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SHOP\">Shopify</a>.</p><h3 id=\"id_3059217215\">Tesla Remains a &#34;Top Pick&#34; at Morgan Stanley Post UAW</h3><p>Morgan Stanley reiterated <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> as one of their “Top Picks” with an Overweight rating, and a 12-month price target of $380.00, after the UAW made historic gains during labor contract negotiations with Detroit’s “Big Three” automakers.</p><h3 id=\"id_2474595017\">Musk’s SpaceX Seen Resuming Starship Launches as Soon as Friday</h3><p>SpaceX could be nearing the next launch of its Starship rocket as soon as Friday, according to a federal document, almost seven months after the massive vehicle was grounded in the wake of its explosive debut flight.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The US Federal Aviation Administration identified Nov. 17 as a possible launch date, with Nov. 18 and 19 as backups, according to an advisory posted on its website. 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The stock fell 22.07% on Tuesday after the company posted a net loss of $149 million, compared with a profit of $322 million the previous quarter. Southeast Asia’s largest internet firm reported a 4.9% rise in sales from a year earlier to $3.3 billion, versus the average estimate of $3.2 billion.Tesla jumped 6.1% to $237.41 after shares of the EV maker closed 4.2% higher on Monday. The gains in Tuesday’s session put the price up about $25 from where it closed last Thursday, when HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall launched coverage of the stock with a Sell rating and a price target of $146.Nvidia stock continued to defy gravity Tuesday, extending gains to the tenth straight session and closing at a record high of $496.56, up 2.13%. In addition to the stock benefiting from today's risk-on trade on the lower CPI report, the upside is being attributed to the release of its latest AI system, the H200, and positioning into the company's third-quarter earnings results next week (Nov. 21, 2023). Analysts are bullish on the stock ahead of those results amid the continued uptake of AI.Home Depot reported third-quarter earnings that beat analysts’ estimates and the stock rose 5.4%. The home-improvement retailer said same-store sales in the period declined 3.1%. U.S. same-store sales fell 3.5%. Home Depot said it expects fiscal-year same-store sales to fall 3% to 4%. It expects per-share earnings in the fiscal year down 9% to 11%.Fisker slid 19% after the electric-vehicle maker reported a wider-than-expected third-quarter loss and sales of $71.8 million that missed estimates of $143.1 million. Fisker said it expects to produce 13,000 to 17,000 units this year. In August, the company said it planned to build about 20,000 to 23,000 units, which was trimmed from earlier guidance. Snap  rose 7.5% after Amazon.com  said it would allow Snapchat users in the U.S. to buy some products listed on the e-commerce giant’s website directly from the Snapchat app, Reuters reported.VF Corp.  was among the leading performers in the S&P 500, rising 10% to $15.57. The stock was on track for its best day in decades, offering investors a much-needed lift after the parent company of Vans and The North Face turned in disappointing quarterly results last month.Canadian Solar  fell 2.9% after third-quarter earnings missed analysts’ estimates by a wide margin and the company’s revenue forecast for the fourth quarter was well below expectations.Azenta  was up 14% after the life-sciences company reported fourth-quarter earnings that beat analysts’ expectations and said it would buy back an extra $500 million in stock in fiscal 2024. Take-Two Interactive Software  was up 2.2% to $153.40 after the videogame publisher was upgraded to Buy from Hold at Deutsche Bank and the price target was boosted to $175 from $155.Market NewsSlowing US Inflation Boosts Hopes Fed Done With Rate HikesU.S. consumer prices were unchanged in October as Americans paid less for gasoline, and the annual rise in underlying inflation was the smallest in two years, bolstering the view that the Federal Reserve was probably done raising interest rates.Though rents continued to rise last month, the pace of the increase slowed considerably from September. The softer-than-expected inflation readings reported by the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) on Tuesday pushed U.S. Treasury yields lower and sparked a stock market rally.In the 12 months through October, the CPI climbed 3.2% after rising 3.7% in September.Bridgewater Boosts Stakes in 3M, Best Buy, Exits Apple, ShopifyBridgewater Associates, the hedge fund founded by Ray Dalio, boosted its holdings in 3M Company to 71.3K shares from 63.7K shares, Abbott Laboratories (NYSE:ABT) to 2.07M shares from 1.82M shares, Best Buy Co. (NYSE:BBY) to 144.7K shares from 116K shares during the third quarter, according to its latest 13F filing.The firm exited its positions in Apple and Shopify.Tesla Remains a \"Top Pick\" at Morgan Stanley Post UAWMorgan Stanley reiterated Tesla as one of their “Top Picks” with an Overweight rating, and a 12-month price target of $380.00, after the UAW made historic gains during labor contract negotiations with Detroit’s “Big Three” automakers.Musk’s SpaceX Seen Resuming Starship Launches as Soon as FridaySpaceX could be nearing the next launch of its Starship rocket as soon as Friday, according to a federal document, almost seven months after the massive vehicle was grounded in the wake of its explosive debut flight.The US Federal Aviation Administration identified Nov. 17 as a possible launch date, with Nov. 18 and 19 as backups, according to an advisory posted on its website. 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Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives said the downtimes were likely to have led to ~20k units shift into Q4. &#34;With price cuts mostly in the rear view mirror providing stability in prices going forward, we believe Tesla is now set to be entering the next stage of growth for the company globally with the Model 3 refresh front and center in China and Cybertruck production set to kick off beginning around Halloween,&#34; he noted. Crucially, Tesla remains committed to the target of 1.8 million deliveries for the year.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/831a645f34ab7fe91816f87e43a5ae38\" tg-width=\"808\" tg-height=\"636\"/></p><p>During the previous quarter, Tesla reported total deliveries of 466,140 and total vehicle production of 479,700.<strong> </strong>During the same period in 2022 Tesla reported total vehicle production of 365,923 and deliveries of 343,830.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On its last earnings call in July, CEO Elon Musk cautioned that Tesla would “continue to target 1.8 million vehicle deliveries this year,” but expected third-quarter production to decline slightly following “summer shutdowns for a lot of factory upgrades.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla’s head of investor relations, Martin Viecha, sent out a company-compiled consensus to select investors, some of whom shared it publicly on social media. That number showed Wall Street was expecting around 455,000 total deliveries, with a median estimate of 453,128 deliveries for the quarter, based on 25 analysts’ estimates.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla groups deliveries into two categories, Model S and X vehicles, and Model 3 and Y vehicles, but doesn’t report individual model or region-specific numbers. Deliveries are the closest approximation to vehicles sold reported by the company.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla slashed prices throughout the third quarter on its inventory vehicles and existing models, which put pressure on competitors to follow suit.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla also revealed a revamped version of its Model 3 sedan, dubbed the “Highland,” with both new exterior and interior features and started selling it in some regions outside the U.S. The interior for the refreshed Model 3 includes touchscreen displays for rear seat passengers and ventilated seats, among other items. The vehicle is sold with a long-range battery option that gets about 390 miles, or 629 km, per charge.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In August, former Zachary Kirkhorn announced he was stepping aside as CFO, and the company said Chief Accounting Officer Vaibhav Taneja would now serve both roles. Tesla’s next earnings call will be the first with Taneja in the CFO seat.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Jumps 2.7% in Morning Trading</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Jumps 2.7% in Morning Trading\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-10-04 21:49</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla stock jumps 2.7% in morning trading.</p><p>Tesla posted its third-quarter vehicle production and delivery report for 2023. Wall Street was expecting Tesla deliveries to reach 461,640 for the period ending Sept. 30, according to a consensus of analysts polled by StreetAccount. An independent Tesla researcher, who uses the handle Troy Teslike on social media, was expecting deliveries of 441,000 vehicles.</p><p>Analysts noted that the deliveries miss was tied to longer than expected downtimes of factories in Shanghai and Austin. Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives said the downtimes were likely to have led to ~20k units shift into Q4. &#34;With price cuts mostly in the rear view mirror providing stability in prices going forward, we believe Tesla is now set to be entering the next stage of growth for the company globally with the Model 3 refresh front and center in China and Cybertruck production set to kick off beginning around Halloween,&#34; he noted. Crucially, Tesla remains committed to the target of 1.8 million deliveries for the year.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/831a645f34ab7fe91816f87e43a5ae38\" tg-width=\"808\" tg-height=\"636\"/></p><p>During the previous quarter, Tesla reported total deliveries of 466,140 and total vehicle production of 479,700.<strong> </strong>During the same period in 2022 Tesla reported total vehicle production of 365,923 and deliveries of 343,830.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On its last earnings call in July, CEO Elon Musk cautioned that Tesla would “continue to target 1.8 million vehicle deliveries this year,” but expected third-quarter production to decline slightly following “summer shutdowns for a lot of factory upgrades.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla’s head of investor relations, Martin Viecha, sent out a company-compiled consensus to select investors, some of whom shared it publicly on social media. That number showed Wall Street was expecting around 455,000 total deliveries, with a median estimate of 453,128 deliveries for the quarter, based on 25 analysts’ estimates.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla groups deliveries into two categories, Model S and X vehicles, and Model 3 and Y vehicles, but doesn’t report individual model or region-specific numbers. Deliveries are the closest approximation to vehicles sold reported by the company.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla slashed prices throughout the third quarter on its inventory vehicles and existing models, which put pressure on competitors to follow suit.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla also revealed a revamped version of its Model 3 sedan, dubbed the “Highland,” with both new exterior and interior features and started selling it in some regions outside the U.S. The interior for the refreshed Model 3 includes touchscreen displays for rear seat passengers and ventilated seats, among other items. The vehicle is sold with a long-range battery option that gets about 390 miles, or 629 km, per charge.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In August, former Zachary Kirkhorn announced he was stepping aside as CFO, and the company said Chief Accounting Officer Vaibhav Taneja would now serve both roles. Tesla’s next earnings call will be the first with Taneja in the CFO seat.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1188553951","content_text":"Tesla stock jumps 2.7% in morning trading.Tesla posted its third-quarter vehicle production and delivery report for 2023. Wall Street was expecting Tesla deliveries to reach 461,640 for the period ending Sept. 30, according to a consensus of analysts polled by StreetAccount. An independent Tesla researcher, who uses the handle Troy Teslike on social media, was expecting deliveries of 441,000 vehicles.Analysts noted that the deliveries miss was tied to longer than expected downtimes of factories in Shanghai and Austin. Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives said the downtimes were likely to have led to ~20k units shift into Q4. \"With price cuts mostly in the rear view mirror providing stability in prices going forward, we believe Tesla is now set to be entering the next stage of growth for the company globally with the Model 3 refresh front and center in China and Cybertruck production set to kick off beginning around Halloween,\" he noted. Crucially, Tesla remains committed to the target of 1.8 million deliveries for the year.During the previous quarter, Tesla reported total deliveries of 466,140 and total vehicle production of 479,700. During the same period in 2022 Tesla reported total vehicle production of 365,923 and deliveries of 343,830.On its last earnings call in July, CEO Elon Musk cautioned that Tesla would “continue to target 1.8 million vehicle deliveries this year,” but expected third-quarter production to decline slightly following “summer shutdowns for a lot of factory upgrades.”Tesla’s head of investor relations, Martin Viecha, sent out a company-compiled consensus to select investors, some of whom shared it publicly on social media. That number showed Wall Street was expecting around 455,000 total deliveries, with a median estimate of 453,128 deliveries for the quarter, based on 25 analysts’ estimates.Tesla groups deliveries into two categories, Model S and X vehicles, and Model 3 and Y vehicles, but doesn’t report individual model or region-specific numbers. Deliveries are the closest approximation to vehicles sold reported by the company.Tesla slashed prices throughout the third quarter on its inventory vehicles and existing models, which put pressure on competitors to follow suit.Tesla also revealed a revamped version of its Model 3 sedan, dubbed the “Highland,” with both new exterior and interior features and started selling it in some regions outside the U.S. The interior for the refreshed Model 3 includes touchscreen displays for rear seat passengers and ventilated seats, among other items. The vehicle is sold with a long-range battery option that gets about 390 miles, or 629 km, per charge.In August, former Zachary Kirkhorn announced he was stepping aside as CFO, and the company said Chief Accounting Officer Vaibhav Taneja would now serve both roles. 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Why tis update..does it matter to those who are in for long or even shorts?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/388636824051800","repostId":"1129021593","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1129021593","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1735915631,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129021593?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-03 22:47","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Rebounded 2% in Morning Trading After Dropping 6% on Thursday","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129021593","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"$Tesla(TSLA)$ stock rebounded 1.3% in premarket trading after dropping 6% in regular trading. Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> stock rebounded 2% in Friday morning trading after dropping 6% on Thursday.</p><p>Tesla posted weaker-than-expected fourth-quarter deliveries, leading to the company’s first year-over-year sales decline.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e1eb517ded46ad9e7298cd80eceeb07a\" tg-width=\"817\" tg-height=\"830\"/></p><p></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Rebounded 2% in Morning Trading After Dropping 6% on Thursday</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Not difficult.","text":"If it doesn't matter to you then just ignore it? Not difficult.","html":"If it doesn't matter to you then just ignore it? Not difficult."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9957713236,"gmtCreate":1677547854026,"gmtModify":1677547857959,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Buy? So u dont like..doesn't mean we will like and buy? Mmm","listText":"Buy? So u dont like..doesn't mean we will like and buy? Mmm","text":"Buy? So u dont like..doesn't mean we will like and buy? Mmm","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9957713236","repostId":"1173669108","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1173669108","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1677547053,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1173669108?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-02-28 09:17","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Google Is The Most-Hated Tech Stock On Wall Street - Time To Buy","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1173669108","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryGoogle initially got swept up in the late-year AI minibubble, but now investors have dropped ","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Google initially got swept up in the late-year AI minibubble, but now investors have dropped the stock like it&#39;s hot after a bungled product demonstration.</li><li>Even Meta is again more expensive than Google on a forward P/E basis.</li><li>Are investors overreacting to fears that Google will somehow lose out on the next big thing? Yes.</li><li>Do sell-side analysts get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to publish their hot takes on AI and the metaverse? I&#39;m afraid so.</li><li>Should you buy Google for a below-market PE? Yes.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ba99b7a2b3a447a0c2f4f4998d33572\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Don&#39;t look now, but Google (NASDAQ:GOOG) (NASDAQ:GOOGL) has taken the crown from Meta (META) as Wall Street&#39;s least-favorite big-tech stock. After much ado about ChatGPT in November and December of last year, Google unveiled its own AIcompetitor at a press conference in Paris. And, well, they did a live demo andthe first answer was wrong. Afterward, everyone dumped Google stock – erasing nearly $100 billion in market value in one day.<i>Lord of the Flies</i>meets<i>Silicon Valley</i>.</p><p>Google is now about flat YTD. So was this an overreaction, or was the selloff justified?</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fb960024a04e13ceb5353b6cd8693465\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><h2>Google: Down 20% For No Good Reason</h2><p>I think we have a clear argument here that the 20% February selloff in Google stock was an overreaction. Microsoft&#39;s (MSFT) investment in ChatGPT gives the company a ton of optionality, but when youzoom out, neither of these chatbots is infallible. When ChatGPT first came out,reporters delightedin getting it to say things that were somewhat racist, to give instructions on crime, and to just get the bot to give plain incorrect information.</p><ul><li>What Microsoft did that was clever was toinvest some time afterOpenAI had made the product publicly available, therefore dodging being associated with the initial media controversy.</li><li>At least for me, it&#39;s tough to say whether Google&#39;s Bard product is objectively worse thanChatGPT,and even if so, if they can&#39;t improve it. We&#39;re talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in market cap erased because somebody at Google rushed a product demo.</li><li>Whoever botched the presentation in Paris is likely to have their career ruined publicly and/or privately. But does that justifya $100 billion selloffin one day for errors no worse than I&#39;ve personally experienced with ChatGPT? Heck no.</li><li>Google owns all of Bard, whereas Microsoft only owns 49% of the home run payoff of ChatGPT (Microsoft gets a higher percentage on the first ~$10 billion). We don&#39;t know how much Google paid to build Bard, but we do know that AIcosts much more to runthan Google search does, so it&#39;s nice to get the full profit from it rather than a fraction.</li><li>Investors&#39; current thinking strikes me as incredibly zero-sum about AI. AI isn&#39;t some sort of poker game that Google and Microsoft are playing heads-up for billions of dollars. The real economy rarely works like that! There&#39;s plenty of room for both companies to monetize AI, and I&#39;d be investing in both of them for the right price. The likely losers from AI are not the companies investing billions in R&amp;D around it– they&#39;re more likely old-school businesses that don&#39;t care about AI and aren&#39;t capable of recognizing the potential. People have asked me how I feel about being replaced by AI in a couple of years as a writer, and after playing with ChatGPT and seeing what it writes, I just laugh. The hype train over AI is causing people to display a lot of black-and-white thinking, FOMO, and all-around irrational behavior.Recent search data compiledby BofA backs up the idea that there is plenty of room for both Google and Microsoft in the AI space.</li><li>How can Google be flat/down while Nvidia (NVDA) is up 65% this year on identical AI hype? Even Microsoft is up less than 5%. The market is telling us some very contradictory stuff here and somebody is wrong. My vote would be that Nvidia longs are overly optimistic, while Google longs are too pessimistic.</li></ul><h2>Remember The Metaverse?</h2><p>Lest we forget, the company formerly known as Facebookchanged its nameto Meta in 2021. They apparently learned from the best, because Google is officially named Alphabet.</p><p>Meta held press conferences and invested billions of dollars into the new project. Reading the mainstream media at the time subjected you to saturation coverage of this new metaverse and how you needed to be ready for it. Never behind any heavily hyped trend, sell-side research analysts soon published lists of the top metaverse stocks to buy. But ultimately, billions of dollars were spent in vain, and Meta stock tumbled from nearly $400 per share to under $100.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/79207fe59e6d02a4bc3852130668068e\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Most investors likely didn&#39;t notice how expensive Meta was at the peak or how cheap it was at the bottom. However, Meta transformed from a growth stock to a value stock, going from about a 25x PE to under 10x at the bottom.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d15d252200fbbf1c0920400c6b5cb40\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>What strikes me here is the similarities to Google&#39;s present situation. There are some differences too – Meta invested billions in an idea a lot of its shareholders thought was dumb, and those shareholders only came around when Meta agreed to start cutting costs and focus on its core businesses. Founder/CEO Mark Zuckerberg has firm control of Meta, if he wanted to tune out shareholders and invest all of the profit in his pet projects it would have been extremely difficult for shareholders to stop without years of lawsuits. If you had some faith here, Meta was worth a shot when the forward PE went under 12-13x, and under 10x it was an easy play that things wouldn&#39;t get much worse. I actually did throw out a recommendation for Meta on theMillennial Investor Podcastat the time–and I recently went back on and doubled downon my buy recommendation for Google. Ironically, Meta is now more expensive than Google on a forward PE basis.</p><p>For Google here, the similarities to last year&#39;s Meta also are clear. We have a heavily hyped new trend, we have a lot of R&amp;D money being invested, and we have the stock trading for a below-market PE due to investor mistrust in management. The metaverse was a silly idea, but buying Meta for a 10x forward PE clearly wasn&#39;t. This year, AI may not immediately live up to the media hype, but Google for a ~17x forward PE qualifies as growth at a more-than-reasonable price.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc564834a5ce096b6bc56defcad399a8\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>We&#39;re almost back to pre-COVID highs in Google, despite solid earnings growth. Google&#39;searnings are off of the COVID peak, but its core businesses are performing well.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d89418d92107f842c441988980c09567\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>It&#39;s probably too soon to call Google a slam dunk value buy here, but what this does show is that the stock decline has been driven largely by investor sentiment and not by Google&#39;s business performance. Sentiment could easily get worse, but you&#39;re getting plenty of long-term compensation for buying Google at today&#39;s prices. Far from being an AI victim, Google looks well positioned for whatever the future of AI may bring, and the lack of positive investor sentiment around this makes it even better to buy. You can buy Google here comfortably, and if the forward PE gets anywhere near where Meta&#39;s did, you can ramp up your purchases.</p><p>Finally, my obligatory share class discussion for Google. Class A stock (GOOGL) is slightly superior and 40 cents cheaper than Class C (GOOG). Therefore, buy class A. Maybe markets aren&#39;t so efficient after all?</p><h2>Bottom Line</h2><p>Google is not a recession-proof stock, they&#39;re not guaranteed to crush the competition in the AI space, and the company isn&#39;t yet as cheap as Meta was during their 2022 debacle. But Google is a great business for a good price, and GOOGL stock offers great long-term compensation for those who buy the stock. Even after some early stumbles, AI is much more of an opportunity than a threat to Google. You can comfortably buy Google stock here, and you can buy more if it goes lower. In a few years, you&#39;ll almost certainly be happy you did. Microsoft and Meta also are buys if their shares fall back 15%-20%, but Google is currently the best bargain in large-cap tech.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha_fund","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Google Is The Most-Hated Tech Stock On Wall Street - Time To Buy</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nGoogle Is The Most-Hated Tech Stock On Wall Street - Time To Buy\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-02-28 09:17 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4582442-google-is-the-most-hated-tech-stock-on-wall-street-time-to-buy><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryGoogle initially got swept up in the late-year AI minibubble, but now investors have dropped the stock like it's hot after a bungled product demonstration.Even Meta is again more expensive than...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4582442-google-is-the-most-hated-tech-stock-on-wall-street-time-to-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GOOG":"谷歌","GOOGL":"谷歌A"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4582442-google-is-the-most-hated-tech-stock-on-wall-street-time-to-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1173669108","content_text":"SummaryGoogle initially got swept up in the late-year AI minibubble, but now investors have dropped the stock like it's hot after a bungled product demonstration.Even Meta is again more expensive than Google on a forward P/E basis.Are investors overreacting to fears that Google will somehow lose out on the next big thing? Yes.Do sell-side analysts get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to publish their hot takes on AI and the metaverse? I'm afraid so.Should you buy Google for a below-market PE? Yes.Don't look now, but Google (NASDAQ:GOOG) (NASDAQ:GOOGL) has taken the crown from Meta (META) as Wall Street's least-favorite big-tech stock. After much ado about ChatGPT in November and December of last year, Google unveiled its own AIcompetitor at a press conference in Paris. And, well, they did a live demo andthe first answer was wrong. Afterward, everyone dumped Google stock – erasing nearly $100 billion in market value in one day.Lord of the FliesmeetsSilicon Valley.Google is now about flat YTD. So was this an overreaction, or was the selloff justified?Google: Down 20% For No Good ReasonI think we have a clear argument here that the 20% February selloff in Google stock was an overreaction. Microsoft's (MSFT) investment in ChatGPT gives the company a ton of optionality, but when youzoom out, neither of these chatbots is infallible. When ChatGPT first came out,reporters delightedin getting it to say things that were somewhat racist, to give instructions on crime, and to just get the bot to give plain incorrect information.What Microsoft did that was clever was toinvest some time afterOpenAI had made the product publicly available, therefore dodging being associated with the initial media controversy.At least for me, it's tough to say whether Google's Bard product is objectively worse thanChatGPT,and even if so, if they can't improve it. We're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in market cap erased because somebody at Google rushed a product demo.Whoever botched the presentation in Paris is likely to have their career ruined publicly and/or privately. But does that justifya $100 billion selloffin one day for errors no worse than I've personally experienced with ChatGPT? Heck no.Google owns all of Bard, whereas Microsoft only owns 49% of the home run payoff of ChatGPT (Microsoft gets a higher percentage on the first ~$10 billion). We don't know how much Google paid to build Bard, but we do know that AIcosts much more to runthan Google search does, so it's nice to get the full profit from it rather than a fraction.Investors' current thinking strikes me as incredibly zero-sum about AI. AI isn't some sort of poker game that Google and Microsoft are playing heads-up for billions of dollars. The real economy rarely works like that! There's plenty of room for both companies to monetize AI, and I'd be investing in both of them for the right price. The likely losers from AI are not the companies investing billions in R&D around it– they're more likely old-school businesses that don't care about AI and aren't capable of recognizing the potential. People have asked me how I feel about being replaced by AI in a couple of years as a writer, and after playing with ChatGPT and seeing what it writes, I just laugh. The hype train over AI is causing people to display a lot of black-and-white thinking, FOMO, and all-around irrational behavior.Recent search data compiledby BofA backs up the idea that there is plenty of room for both Google and Microsoft in the AI space.How can Google be flat/down while Nvidia (NVDA) is up 65% this year on identical AI hype? Even Microsoft is up less than 5%. The market is telling us some very contradictory stuff here and somebody is wrong. My vote would be that Nvidia longs are overly optimistic, while Google longs are too pessimistic.Remember The Metaverse?Lest we forget, the company formerly known as Facebookchanged its nameto Meta in 2021. They apparently learned from the best, because Google is officially named Alphabet.Meta held press conferences and invested billions of dollars into the new project. Reading the mainstream media at the time subjected you to saturation coverage of this new metaverse and how you needed to be ready for it. Never behind any heavily hyped trend, sell-side research analysts soon published lists of the top metaverse stocks to buy. But ultimately, billions of dollars were spent in vain, and Meta stock tumbled from nearly $400 per share to under $100.Data byYChartsMost investors likely didn't notice how expensive Meta was at the peak or how cheap it was at the bottom. However, Meta transformed from a growth stock to a value stock, going from about a 25x PE to under 10x at the bottom.Data byYChartsWhat strikes me here is the similarities to Google's present situation. There are some differences too – Meta invested billions in an idea a lot of its shareholders thought was dumb, and those shareholders only came around when Meta agreed to start cutting costs and focus on its core businesses. Founder/CEO Mark Zuckerberg has firm control of Meta, if he wanted to tune out shareholders and invest all of the profit in his pet projects it would have been extremely difficult for shareholders to stop without years of lawsuits. If you had some faith here, Meta was worth a shot when the forward PE went under 12-13x, and under 10x it was an easy play that things wouldn't get much worse. I actually did throw out a recommendation for Meta on theMillennial Investor Podcastat the time–and I recently went back on and doubled downon my buy recommendation for Google. Ironically, Meta is now more expensive than Google on a forward PE basis.For Google here, the similarities to last year's Meta also are clear. We have a heavily hyped new trend, we have a lot of R&D money being invested, and we have the stock trading for a below-market PE due to investor mistrust in management. The metaverse was a silly idea, but buying Meta for a 10x forward PE clearly wasn't. This year, AI may not immediately live up to the media hype, but Google for a ~17x forward PE qualifies as growth at a more-than-reasonable price.Data byYChartsWe're almost back to pre-COVID highs in Google, despite solid earnings growth. Google'searnings are off of the COVID peak, but its core businesses are performing well.Data byYChartsIt's probably too soon to call Google a slam dunk value buy here, but what this does show is that the stock decline has been driven largely by investor sentiment and not by Google's business performance. Sentiment could easily get worse, but you're getting plenty of long-term compensation for buying Google at today's prices. Far from being an AI victim, Google looks well positioned for whatever the future of AI may bring, and the lack of positive investor sentiment around this makes it even better to buy. You can buy Google here comfortably, and if the forward PE gets anywhere near where Meta's did, you can ramp up your purchases.Finally, my obligatory share class discussion for Google. Class A stock (GOOGL) is slightly superior and 40 cents cheaper than Class C (GOOG). Therefore, buy class A. Maybe markets aren't so efficient after all?Bottom LineGoogle is not a recession-proof stock, they're not guaranteed to crush the competition in the AI space, and the company isn't yet as cheap as Meta was during their 2022 debacle. But Google is a great business for a good price, and GOOGL stock offers great long-term compensation for those who buy the stock. Even after some early stumbles, AI is much more of an opportunity than a threat to Google. You can comfortably buy Google stock here, and you can buy more if it goes lower. In a few years, you'll almost certainly be happy you did. Microsoft and Meta also are buys if their shares fall back 15%-20%, but Google is currently the best bargain in large-cap tech.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":140,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":395244664816104,"gmtCreate":1737505551710,"gmtModify":1737509100988,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"U think trump will not support EVs? Who is his biggest ally? 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There are also worries that the Trump administration might impose more restrictions on other programs, including grants and tax credits, which could weaken the adoption of electric vehicles.The stock market overreacts to news, and big price drops can present good opportunities to buy high-quality stocks. Is now the time to buy Tesla?Tesla’s shares are extremely volatile and have had 112 moves greater than 2.5% over the last year. In that context, today’s move indicates the market considers this news meaningful but not something that would fundamentally change its perception of the business.Unless you’ve been living under a rock, it should be obvious by now that generative AI is going to have a huge impact on how large corporations do business. While Nvidia and AMD are","content":"<html><body><figure>\n<img src=\"https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/Ghb523UL9vVRxOd1b3SZWQ--/cT03NTthcHBpZD15dmlkZW9mZWVkczs-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/stockstory_922/9e0f08f01f3d35996ac49bdd618e9411\"/>\n<figcaption>\n   Why Tesla (TSLA) Shares Are Falling Today \n </figcaption>\n</figure>\n<h2>What Happened?</h2>\n<p>Shares of electric vehicle pioneer Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) fell 4.4% in the morning session after stocks of electric vehicle makers tumbled following reports that the new Trump Administration may eliminate subsidies for electric vehicles. There are also worries that the Trump administration might impose more restrictions on other programs, including grants and tax credits, which could weaken the adoption of electric vehicles. </p>\n<p>The stock market overreacts to news, and big price drops can present good opportunities to buy high-quality stocks. Is now the time to buy Tesla? Access our full analysis report here, it’s free.</p>\n<h2>What The Market Is Telling Us</h2>\n<p>Tesla’s shares are extremely volatile and have had 112 moves greater than 2.5% over the last year. In that context, today’s move indicates the market considers this news meaningful but not something that would fundamentally change its perception of the business. </p>\n<p>The previous big move we wrote about was 14 days ago when the stock dropped 3.3% on the news that Bank of America analyst John Murphy downgraded the stock's rating from Buy to Hold, citing \"execution risk.\" Some of the areas of concern include \"1) Introduction of a low cost model in [first half of 2025] and another new model in [second half of 2025] (key drivers of volume growth); 2) Launch of robotaxi in mid-2025; 3) Megapack production ramp at Shanghai assembly plant starting in 1Q:25; 4) Updates on [full self-driving] subscribers.\"</p>\n<p>Tesla is up 9.1% since the beginning of the year, but at $413.87 per share, it is still trading 13.8% below its 52-week high of $479.86 from December 2024. Investors who bought $1,000 worth of Tesla’s shares 5 years ago would now be looking at an investment worth $11,345. </p>\n<p>Unless you’ve been living under a rock, it should be obvious by now that generative AI is going to have a huge impact on how large corporations do business. While Nvidia and AMD are trading close to all-time highs, we prefer a lesser-known (but still profitable) semiconductor stock benefiting from the rise of AI. 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There are also worries that the Trump administration might impose more restrictions on other programs, including grants and tax credits, which could weaken the adoption of electric vehicles. \nThe stock market overreacts to news, and big price drops can present good opportunities to buy high-quality stocks. Is now the time to buy Tesla? Access our full analysis report here, it’s free.\nWhat The Market Is Telling Us\nTesla’s shares are extremely volatile and have had 112 moves greater than 2.5% over the last year. In that context, today’s move indicates the market considers this news meaningful but not something that would fundamentally change its perception of the business. \nThe previous big move we wrote about was 14 days ago when the stock dropped 3.3% on the news that Bank of America analyst John Murphy downgraded the stock's rating from Buy to Hold, citing \"execution risk.\" Some of the areas of concern include \"1) Introduction of a low cost model in [first half of 2025] and another new model in [second half of 2025] (key drivers of volume growth); 2) Launch of robotaxi in mid-2025; 3) Megapack production ramp at Shanghai assembly plant starting in 1Q:25; 4) Updates on [full self-driving] subscribers.\"\nTesla is up 9.1% since the beginning of the year, but at $413.87 per share, it is still trading 13.8% below its 52-week high of $479.86 from December 2024. Investors who bought $1,000 worth of Tesla’s shares 5 years ago would now be looking at an investment worth $11,345. \nUnless you’ve been living under a rock, it should be obvious by now that generative AI is going to have a huge impact on how large corporations do business. While Nvidia and AMD are trading close to all-time highs, we prefer a lesser-known (but still profitable) semiconductor stock benefiting from the rise of AI. 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Cos u probably died","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/326724356944008","repostId":"2450304955","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2450304955","kind":"live","pubTimestamp":1720797629,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2450304955?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-12 23:20","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Outlook Improved with \"New Catalysts\", Says Citi","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2450304955","media":"Investing","summary":"On Friday, Citi updated its stance on Tesla Inc. stock, boosting the electric vehicle maker's price ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>On Friday, Citi updated its stance on Tesla Inc. stock, boosting the electric vehicle maker&#39;s price target significantly to $274 from the previous $182, while keeping a Neutral rating on the stock.</p><p>U.S.-listed shares of the company rose 3% in Friday trading.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a0e6da17ebd7135a0a99e9d5e7bb9ca1\" tg-width=\"449\" tg-height=\"387\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The firm attributes the adjustment to a more constructive view on near-term sentiment, despite the recent surge in Tesla&#39;s stock price which now hinges more on upcoming electric vehicle and autonomous vehicle catalysts.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The firm noted that its long-standing preference for automaker stocks over supplier stocks remains intact. However, a tactical shift towards a more positive outlook on suppliers is evident as the second quarter approaches.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">This change is based on expectations of better-than-anticipated outcomes which could lift near-term sentiment from currently low levels, mirroring trends observed in the first quarter.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In a strategic move, Citi has initiated a 30-Day Upside View on both BorgWarner Inc (NYSE:BWA). and Aptiv (NYSE:APTV) PLC, anticipating an uptick in market sentiment for these suppliers. Conversely, the firm has adopted a 30-Day Downside View on Magna International (NYSE:MGA) Inc., citing heightened risk in second-quarter consensus and guidance.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Citi has also adjusted its estimates and targets for several tier-1 suppliers, signaling a more cautious approach. When it comes to General Motors (NYSE:GM) and Ford (NYSE:F), Citi anticipates robust results that align with its bullish outlook.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Nonetheless, the firm suggests that initial stock reactions post-earnings could be influenced by various nuances, advising investors to temper their expectations for the second quarter.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In summary, while Citi has increased its estimates and price target for Tesla, reflecting a more optimistic short-term sentiment, the firm&#39;s overall position remains neutral due to the stock&#39;s performance reliance on future product and technology developments.</p><p>In other recent news, Tesla Inc. has seen a series of developments. UBS downgraded Tesla&#39;s stock rating from Neutral to Sell, despite raising the price target to $197 from $147. The downgrade comes as a result of concerns over Tesla&#39;s valuation, particularly in relation to its investments in artificial intelligence (AI).</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Meanwhile, Tesla has expanded its Model 3 lineup with a new rear-wheel drive long-range variant priced at $42,490, aiming to offer a more affordable option to consumers.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The company has also postponed the debut of its anticipated Robotaxi service from August to October. In response to tariffs imposed by the European Commission on China-made electric vehicles, Tesla has adjusted the prices of its Model 3 vehicles across several European countries.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On the investment front, Morgan Stanley revised the valuation of Tesla&#39;s energy storage business to $50 per share, while Oppenheimer projected that Tesla&#39;s energy storage sales could surpass $3 billion in the current quarter.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">ARK Investment Management&#39;s CEO, Cathie Wood, expressed confidence in the firm&#39;s flagship fund strategy, with Tesla being one of the top investments. These are among the recent developments concerning Tesla.</p></body></html>","source":"hk_investing_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Outlook Improved with \"New Catalysts\", Says Citi</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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However, a tactical shift towards a more positive outlook on suppliers is evident as the second quarter approaches.This change is based on expectations of better-than-anticipated outcomes which could lift near-term sentiment from currently low levels, mirroring trends observed in the first quarter.In a strategic move, Citi has initiated a 30-Day Upside View on both BorgWarner Inc (NYSE:BWA). and Aptiv (NYSE:APTV) PLC, anticipating an uptick in market sentiment for these suppliers. Conversely, the firm has adopted a 30-Day Downside View on Magna International (NYSE:MGA) Inc., citing heightened risk in second-quarter consensus and guidance.Citi has also adjusted its estimates and targets for several tier-1 suppliers, signaling a more cautious approach. When it comes to General Motors (NYSE:GM) and Ford (NYSE:F), Citi anticipates robust results that align with its bullish outlook.Nonetheless, the firm suggests that initial stock reactions post-earnings could be influenced by various nuances, advising investors to temper their expectations for the second quarter.In summary, while Citi has increased its estimates and price target for Tesla, reflecting a more optimistic short-term sentiment, the firm's overall position remains neutral due to the stock's performance reliance on future product and technology developments.In other recent news, Tesla Inc. has seen a series of developments. UBS downgraded Tesla's stock rating from Neutral to Sell, despite raising the price target to $197 from $147. The downgrade comes as a result of concerns over Tesla's valuation, particularly in relation to its investments in artificial intelligence (AI).Meanwhile, Tesla has expanded its Model 3 lineup with a new rear-wheel drive long-range variant priced at $42,490, aiming to offer a more affordable option to consumers.The company has also postponed the debut of its anticipated Robotaxi service from August to October. In response to tariffs imposed by the European Commission on China-made electric vehicles, Tesla has adjusted the prices of its Model 3 vehicles across several European countries.On the investment front, Morgan Stanley revised the valuation of Tesla's energy storage business to $50 per share, while Oppenheimer projected that Tesla's energy storage sales could surpass $3 billion in the current quarter.ARK Investment Management's CEO, Cathie Wood, expressed confidence in the firm's flagship fund strategy, with Tesla being one of the top investments. These are among the recent developments concerning Tesla.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":220,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":326629197434992,"gmtCreate":1720767683627,"gmtModify":1720767697613,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Its all manipulated by who else?? Elon!!&nbsp;","listText":"Its all manipulated by who else?? Elon!!&nbsp;","text":"Its all manipulated by who else?? Elon!!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/326629197434992","repostId":"2450396279","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2450396279","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1720767600,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2450396279?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-12 15:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla’s Frenetic Rally Prompts a Valuation Reality Check","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2450396279","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"Investors bet on AI promise, looking through EV weaknessShares drop quickly Thursday on news of robotaxi event delayCustomers inside a Tesla showroom in Shanghai.Tesla Inc. shares’ breathless rally hi","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Investors bet on AI promise, looking through EV weakness</p></li><li><p>Shares drop quickly Thursday on news of robotaxi event delay</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5c11f5661080544607f29d0f16286cbf\" alt=\"Customers inside a Tesla showroom in Shanghai.\" title=\"Customers inside a Tesla showroom in Shanghai.\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1334\"/><span>Customers inside a Tesla showroom in Shanghai.</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla Inc. shares’ breathless rally hit a wall on Thursday on a report that the company might delay a crucial event that many investors have been pinning their hopes on. Yet even before that, it was already becoming harder to argue the case for the bulls.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The last time the company’s shares ran up like this, the rally was supported by revenue expanding at a double-digit clip. Things seem a lot gloomier now. The mood around electric cars is subdued, Tesla’s sales are shrinking and its profits are sagging.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">And then came the big blow on Thursday: Tesla is planning to delay its keenly anticipated self-driving technology — the robotaxi — to October, from August. The news sent the stock plunging as much as 8.4%, set to wipe off more than $60 billion from its market capitalization.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/9cacbfe384f933dc33f908f5247c6d7c\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\"/></p><p>Even before the news of the robotaxi delay, the gravity-defying rally was making some nervous. The shares had soared 44% through Wednesday over an 11-day winning streak that’s the longest since June 2023. The stock was trading at 90 times forward earnings at its last close, a level that was last seen in early 2022, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.</p><p>The surge came as traders looked past Tesla’s EV credentials and bet that Elon Musk can transform it into an artificial intelligence powerhouse. The idea was that when Musk finally unveils Tesla’s robotaxi, it will solidify the company’s position as a leading AI player.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“Investors have been looking for that one breakthrough, real-world application of AI,” said Nicholas Colas, co-founder at DataTrek Research. “And now we have someone who has been working on AI for years saying ‘hey, I have got that killer application.’”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Yet, some numbers fly in the face of the current buzz around the stock: earnings are set to drop by 21% in 2024 and revenue growth is seen decelerating to just 2.2%.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“This is clearly a faith-based stock now, not one whose valuations are in any way tied to current earnings power, and every day the stock rallies the bar for the event just gets higher,” Colas added.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The frenetic rally, which prompted bond billionaire Bill Gross this week to compare Tesla to meme stocks, picked up steam after the company’s July 2 sales update suggested the worst of the EV slowdown may be over. But the surge has since taken on a wilder momentum.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla is now the fifth-most expensively priced stock in the S&amp;P 500 Index on a price-to-earnings basis, far surpassing the rest of the megacap technology cohort. The shares were rising again on Thursday, before the news of the delay sent them plunging.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The glaring risk for investors is that for Tesla, success in AI relies on solving one of the most complex problems the technology has yet tackled — creating cars that drive themselves more safely than humans can. By and large, analysts and experts believe a real-world mass adoption of such technology is likely decades away.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla has “always traded on hopes and dreams,” said Steve Sosnick, chief strategist at Interactive Brokers. “If you’re not thinking about the future, the fact that this company is worth almost as much as the rest of the auto industry combined doesn’t make sense. But if you think Elon Musk and Tesla are going to change the world, so what if you’re paying 100 times earnings?”</p><p>Even with the dizzyingly high PE ratio, the share price of about $263 is a long way from the peak of about $410 touched in November 2021. That’s because while Tesla’s stock is staging a spectacular turnaround, its earnings are getting smaller. In 2021, when the stock rose 50%, annual profit jumped nearly seven-fold.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">None of this makes it any easier to predict whether the rally is about to break. Trading in the options market suggested investors were largely optimistic, at least until Wednesday. But as shares slid on Thursday, the premium traders were willing to pay for bullish calls narrowed. The ratio of puts traded versus calls rose to the highest since June 20, suggesting a higher appetite to hedge against declines.</p><p>Still, not everyone was feeling brave enough to pile on.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">For David Wagner, portfolio manager at Aptus Capital Advisors, which holds the company’s shares, the uncertainty around what Musk may present on Aug. 8 makes the risk “too high right now to be investing new money into Tesla.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The eye-watering wave of buying is also a cause of some unease for other market participants, concerned that any selloff can get magnified once the tide turns.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">“The biggest risk to Tesla shares is this level of volatility,” said Michael O’Rourke, chief market strategist at Jonestrading. “Usually, when you have this type of volatility, it works in both directions, so that’s a problem.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Yet even before that, it was already becoming harder to argue the case for the bulls.The last time the company’s shares ran up like this, the rally was supported by revenue expanding at a double-digit clip. Things seem a lot gloomier now. The mood around electric cars is subdued, Tesla’s sales are shrinking and its profits are sagging.And then came the big blow on Thursday: Tesla is planning to delay its keenly anticipated self-driving technology — the robotaxi — to October, from August. The news sent the stock plunging as much as 8.4%, set to wipe off more than $60 billion from its market capitalization.Even before the news of the robotaxi delay, the gravity-defying rally was making some nervous. The shares had soared 44% through Wednesday over an 11-day winning streak that’s the longest since June 2023. The stock was trading at 90 times forward earnings at its last close, a level that was last seen in early 2022, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.The surge came as traders looked past Tesla’s EV credentials and bet that Elon Musk can transform it into an artificial intelligence powerhouse. The idea was that when Musk finally unveils Tesla’s robotaxi, it will solidify the company’s position as a leading AI player.“Investors have been looking for that one breakthrough, real-world application of AI,” said Nicholas Colas, co-founder at DataTrek Research. “And now we have someone who has been working on AI for years saying ‘hey, I have got that killer application.’”Yet, some numbers fly in the face of the current buzz around the stock: earnings are set to drop by 21% in 2024 and revenue growth is seen decelerating to just 2.2%.“This is clearly a faith-based stock now, not one whose valuations are in any way tied to current earnings power, and every day the stock rallies the bar for the event just gets higher,” Colas added.The frenetic rally, which prompted bond billionaire Bill Gross this week to compare Tesla to meme stocks, picked up steam after the company’s July 2 sales update suggested the worst of the EV slowdown may be over. But the surge has since taken on a wilder momentum.Tesla is now the fifth-most expensively priced stock in the S&P 500 Index on a price-to-earnings basis, far surpassing the rest of the megacap technology cohort. The shares were rising again on Thursday, before the news of the delay sent them plunging.The glaring risk for investors is that for Tesla, success in AI relies on solving one of the most complex problems the technology has yet tackled — creating cars that drive themselves more safely than humans can. By and large, analysts and experts believe a real-world mass adoption of such technology is likely decades away.Tesla has “always traded on hopes and dreams,” said Steve Sosnick, chief strategist at Interactive Brokers. “If you’re not thinking about the future, the fact that this company is worth almost as much as the rest of the auto industry combined doesn’t make sense. But if you think Elon Musk and Tesla are going to change the world, so what if you’re paying 100 times earnings?”Even with the dizzyingly high PE ratio, the share price of about $263 is a long way from the peak of about $410 touched in November 2021. That’s because while Tesla’s stock is staging a spectacular turnaround, its earnings are getting smaller. In 2021, when the stock rose 50%, annual profit jumped nearly seven-fold.None of this makes it any easier to predict whether the rally is about to break. Trading in the options market suggested investors were largely optimistic, at least until Wednesday. But as shares slid on Thursday, the premium traders were willing to pay for bullish calls narrowed. The ratio of puts traded versus calls rose to the highest since June 20, suggesting a higher appetite to hedge against declines.Still, not everyone was feeling brave enough to pile on.For David Wagner, portfolio manager at Aptus Capital Advisors, which holds the company’s shares, the uncertainty around what Musk may present on Aug. 8 makes the risk “too high right now to be investing new money into Tesla.”The eye-watering wave of buying is also a cause of some unease for other market participants, concerned that any selloff can get magnified once the tide turns.“The biggest risk to Tesla shares is this level of volatility,” said Michael O’Rourke, chief market strategist at Jonestrading. “Usually, when you have this type of volatility, it works in both directions, so that’s a problem.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":407,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3569274903458035","authorId":"3569274903458035","name":"HLPA","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/07e7b987a9127c5a47dbc3ae02db548b","crmLevel":7,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3569274903458035","authorIdStr":"3569274903458035"},"content":"fully agree. EM is the master in manipulating TSLA share price. Great stock for day or swimg trades to ride on its daily momentum","text":"fully agree. EM is the master in manipulating TSLA share price. Great stock for day or swimg trades to ride on its daily momentum","html":"fully agree. EM is the master in manipulating TSLA share price. Great stock for day or swimg trades to ride on its daily momentum"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":241077893669168,"gmtCreate":1699877664224,"gmtModify":1699877668358,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Looks like analysts can be bought with some $$?? I leave it to your own imagination. Especially HSBC...","listText":"Looks like analysts can be bought with some $$?? I leave it to your own imagination. Especially HSBC...","text":"Looks like analysts can be bought with some $$?? I leave it to your own imagination. Especially HSBC...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/241077893669168","repostId":"2382787713","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2382787713","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1699873364,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2382787713?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-13 19:02","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Tesla Stock a Buy? It Depends on This Number","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2382787713","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Tesla bulls and bears can debate almost anything from the quality of quarterly earnings to the qualities of CEO Elon Musk. Whether an analyst or investor likes Tesla stock, however, boils down to numbers.Take the Sell recommendation from HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall. He launched coverage of the shares in a Wednesday evening report. His bearish take and $146 price target helped send Tesla  stock down 5.2% while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite fell 0.8% and 0.9%, respectively.The coverage initiation report runs to 110 pages and is as informative and well thought out as most Wall Street reports. In all those pages, one number is key: 13%.That's Tyndall's projected average annual growth rate for sales in Tesla's car business between 2023 and 2030. In 2023, Tesla is expected to sell about 1.8 million cars for an average price of about $45,000 each. In 2030, Tyndall's numbers are 5.8 million and $32,000, respectively.This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla bulls and bears can debate almost anything from the quality of quarterly earnings to the qualities of CEO Elon Musk. But whether an analyst or investor considers Tesla stock a Buy, Hold, Hold, or Sell, boils down to numbers.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Take the Sell recommendation from HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall. He launched coverage of the shares in a Wednesday evening report. His bearish take and $146 price target helped send Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock down 5.2% while the S&amp;P 500 and Nasdaq Composite fell 0.8% and 0.9%, respectively.</p><p>The coverage initiation report runs to 110 pages and is as informative and well thought out as most Wall Street reports. In all those pages, one number is key: 13%.</p><p>That’s Tyndall’s projected average annual growth rate for sales in Tesla’s car business between 2023 and 2030. In 2023, Tesla is expected to sell about 1.8 million cars for an average price of about $45,000 each. In 2030, Tyndall’s numbers are 5.8 million and $32,000, respectively.</p><p>Canaccord analyst George Gianarikas is a Tesla Bull. He rates shares Buy and has a $267 price target. He projects closer to 20% average annual sales growth. By 2030, he projects about 6.6 million cars sold with an average vehicle price in the range of $45,000.</p><p>That seven percentage point difference between the two analysts really adds up. It’s the difference between a $190 billion car business and a $300 billion car business by 2030.</p><p>Future Fund Active ETF (FFND) co-founder Gary Black is more even more bullish than Gianarikas. He projects 10.2 million units sold in 2030 at an average price of about $47,000. That’s about 29% average annual growth for the coming seven years, ending with a $480 billion car business at the end of the decade.</p><p>Tyndall’s Sell rating relies on “classic reversion to the mean,” says Black. Mean reversion is the idea that, in the long run, growth rates should converge to some industry average. It has some validity. It’s hard to grow faster than an entire industry for a long, long time. Still, Black says the approach “seems more like how one would value a slow growth-legacy auto company than a high growth tech stock.”<strong> </strong></p><p>To some extent, these examples illustrate why valuing growth stocks is so hard. The difference between 15% and 25% average annual growth stretched out over a few years is hard to fathom. Over seven years, growing at a higher rate essentially results in a company twice as large.</p><p>The same calculation for a company growing either 3% or 5% a year, which is the same percentage difference between 15% and 25%, results in a company that’s about 15% bigger.</p><p>That’s why it’s useful for investors to take a step back once in a while and focus on something simple. If an investor believes Tesla will sell five million cars in 2030 they probably aren’t going to like the stock very much. At seven million they are comfortable with where the stock trades today. At 10 million they love shares.</p><p><em>Barron’s </em>recommended buying Tesla stock in early January when shares were trading at was trading near $113, believing that investors had become too worried about EV pricing and growth. Near $200 a share, Tesla stock is less attractive than it was, but we see no reason to abandon it either. There is lots of growth ahead for EVs and Tesla remains a leader.</p><p>Tesla stock rose 2.2 on Friday. S&amp;P 500 and Nasdaq Composite futures rose 1.6% and 2.1%, respectively.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla Stock a Buy? It Depends on This Number</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs Tesla Stock a Buy? It Depends on This Number\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-11-13 19:02</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla bulls and bears can debate almost anything from the quality of quarterly earnings to the qualities of CEO Elon Musk. But whether an analyst or investor considers Tesla stock a Buy, Hold, Hold, or Sell, boils down to numbers.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Take the Sell recommendation from HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall. He launched coverage of the shares in a Wednesday evening report. His bearish take and $146 price target helped send Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock down 5.2% while the S&amp;P 500 and Nasdaq Composite fell 0.8% and 0.9%, respectively.</p><p>The coverage initiation report runs to 110 pages and is as informative and well thought out as most Wall Street reports. In all those pages, one number is key: 13%.</p><p>That’s Tyndall’s projected average annual growth rate for sales in Tesla’s car business between 2023 and 2030. In 2023, Tesla is expected to sell about 1.8 million cars for an average price of about $45,000 each. In 2030, Tyndall’s numbers are 5.8 million and $32,000, respectively.</p><p>Canaccord analyst George Gianarikas is a Tesla Bull. He rates shares Buy and has a $267 price target. He projects closer to 20% average annual sales growth. By 2030, he projects about 6.6 million cars sold with an average vehicle price in the range of $45,000.</p><p>That seven percentage point difference between the two analysts really adds up. It’s the difference between a $190 billion car business and a $300 billion car business by 2030.</p><p>Future Fund Active ETF (FFND) co-founder Gary Black is more even more bullish than Gianarikas. He projects 10.2 million units sold in 2030 at an average price of about $47,000. That’s about 29% average annual growth for the coming seven years, ending with a $480 billion car business at the end of the decade.</p><p>Tyndall’s Sell rating relies on “classic reversion to the mean,” says Black. Mean reversion is the idea that, in the long run, growth rates should converge to some industry average. It has some validity. It’s hard to grow faster than an entire industry for a long, long time. Still, Black says the approach “seems more like how one would value a slow growth-legacy auto company than a high growth tech stock.”<strong> </strong></p><p>To some extent, these examples illustrate why valuing growth stocks is so hard. The difference between 15% and 25% average annual growth stretched out over a few years is hard to fathom. Over seven years, growing at a higher rate essentially results in a company twice as large.</p><p>The same calculation for a company growing either 3% or 5% a year, which is the same percentage difference between 15% and 25%, results in a company that’s about 15% bigger.</p><p>That’s why it’s useful for investors to take a step back once in a while and focus on something simple. If an investor believes Tesla will sell five million cars in 2030 they probably aren’t going to like the stock very much. At seven million they are comfortable with where the stock trades today. At 10 million they love shares.</p><p><em>Barron’s </em>recommended buying Tesla stock in early January when shares were trading at was trading near $113, believing that investors had become too worried about EV pricing and growth. Near $200 a share, Tesla stock is less attractive than it was, but we see no reason to abandon it either. There is lots of growth ahead for EVs and Tesla remains a leader.</p><p>Tesla stock rose 2.2 on Friday. S&amp;P 500 and Nasdaq Composite futures rose 1.6% and 2.1%, respectively.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2382787713","content_text":"Tesla bulls and bears can debate almost anything from the quality of quarterly earnings to the qualities of CEO Elon Musk. But whether an analyst or investor considers Tesla stock a Buy, Hold, Hold, or Sell, boils down to numbers.Take the Sell recommendation from HSBC analyst Michael Tyndall. He launched coverage of the shares in a Wednesday evening report. His bearish take and $146 price target helped send Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock down 5.2% while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite fell 0.8% and 0.9%, respectively.The coverage initiation report runs to 110 pages and is as informative and well thought out as most Wall Street reports. In all those pages, one number is key: 13%.That’s Tyndall’s projected average annual growth rate for sales in Tesla’s car business between 2023 and 2030. In 2023, Tesla is expected to sell about 1.8 million cars for an average price of about $45,000 each. In 2030, Tyndall’s numbers are 5.8 million and $32,000, respectively.Canaccord analyst George Gianarikas is a Tesla Bull. He rates shares Buy and has a $267 price target. He projects closer to 20% average annual sales growth. By 2030, he projects about 6.6 million cars sold with an average vehicle price in the range of $45,000.That seven percentage point difference between the two analysts really adds up. It’s the difference between a $190 billion car business and a $300 billion car business by 2030.Future Fund Active ETF (FFND) co-founder Gary Black is more even more bullish than Gianarikas. He projects 10.2 million units sold in 2030 at an average price of about $47,000. That’s about 29% average annual growth for the coming seven years, ending with a $480 billion car business at the end of the decade.Tyndall’s Sell rating relies on “classic reversion to the mean,” says Black. Mean reversion is the idea that, in the long run, growth rates should converge to some industry average. It has some validity. It’s hard to grow faster than an entire industry for a long, long time. Still, Black says the approach “seems more like how one would value a slow growth-legacy auto company than a high growth tech stock.” To some extent, these examples illustrate why valuing growth stocks is so hard. The difference between 15% and 25% average annual growth stretched out over a few years is hard to fathom. Over seven years, growing at a higher rate essentially results in a company twice as large.The same calculation for a company growing either 3% or 5% a year, which is the same percentage difference between 15% and 25%, results in a company that’s about 15% bigger.That’s why it’s useful for investors to take a step back once in a while and focus on something simple. If an investor believes Tesla will sell five million cars in 2030 they probably aren’t going to like the stock very much. At seven million they are comfortable with where the stock trades today. At 10 million they love shares.Barron’s recommended buying Tesla stock in early January when shares were trading at was trading near $113, believing that investors had become too worried about EV pricing and growth. Near $200 a share, Tesla stock is less attractive than it was, but we see no reason to abandon it either. There is lots of growth ahead for EVs and Tesla remains a leader.Tesla stock rose 2.2 on Friday. S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite futures rose 1.6% and 2.1%, respectively.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":160,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9928022381,"gmtCreate":1671153492444,"gmtModify":1676538499762,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Seriously..Powell u are a devil! Selfishness&nbsp;","listText":"Seriously..Powell u are a devil! Selfishness&nbsp;","text":"Seriously..Powell u are a devil! 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That bonds took the news in stride is nice for investors with a toe in each market, but adds to evidence that concern about the economy has become the bigger input to both.</p><p>Rather than rise on speculation that weak data would curb Federal Reserve tightening, the S&amp;P 500 dropped 2.5% on Thursday, while the Nasdaq 100 lost 3.4%. Small-cap stocks lost more than 2.5% and the VIX volatility gauge shot back above 22. The yield on 10-year Treasuries hovered around 3.45%, down from a peak of 3.63% earlier this week.</p><p>“The concern is growth and what’s going to happen to the economy, and is the Fed pushing us into recession,” Mona Mahajan, senior investment strategist at Edward Jones, said on Bloomberg’s “What Goes Up” podcast on Thursday. “Markets won’t ignore the fact that we’re entering a downturn — and so could we head back toward those lows, give up some of the gains that we’ve seen recently? We think that is certainly a scenario that is a credible one.”</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53d23fd0d5e7c8cff39bf6af275f2547\" tg-width=\"930\" tg-height=\"523\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>In months prior, bad economic news was often taken as good by investors because it suggested the Federal Reserve’s interest-rate increases were working as intended to cool the economy and tamp down inflation. But now a shift may be at hand: Many investors are worrying more about a recession in 2023, with the risk increasing that the Fed could overtighten.</p><p>Data Thursday suggested US economic growth is slowing, with retail sales and manufacturing dropping last month, though the labor market has remained strong. Retail sales fell in November by the most in nearly a year, calling into question the health of the consumer, while several factory measures also showed contraction, burdened by weaker demand, among other things. Meanwhile, regional Federal Reserve banks data showed that manufacturing weakened in both the New York and Philadelphia regions by more than expected — the latter’s new orders gauge fell to the lowest since the onset of the pandemic.</p><p>“Investors took their eye off the ball and were hoping for a glide path into the holidays,” said Mike Bailey, director of research at FBB Capital Partners. “Markets are realizing that we are in for a staring contest between Jay Powell and investors that could go on for three, six, or nine months.” He added that yields on short-term Treasuries rose Thursday, while those on longer-term ones declined, “which would support a theme of a hawkish Fed move near-term, pushing rates up, but also leading to perhaps a worse recession, which might suggest slower long-term growth and lower long rates.”</p><p>The iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF, known by its ticker TLT, is on pace to beat the SPDR S&amp;P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) for five straight weeks, the longest winning streak since March of 2020. The Treasury fund is outperforming the latter by nearly 10 percentage points in December, poised for its best month since that period as well.</p><p>On Wednesday, the Fed raised its benchmark rate by 50 basis points to a 4.25%-to-4.5% target range and policymakers predicted rates would end next year at 5.1%, a higher level than previously indicated. Chair Jerome Powell reiterated that the central bank would keep rates higher for longer, and played down hopes for a rate cut next year.</p><p>The Fed also, among other projections, updated its forecast for the unemployment rate, saying it could rise to 4.6% next year — and such a hike from July’s trough of 3.5% “has never not caused a recession,” wrote Julian Emanuel, chief equity, derivatives and quantitative strategist at Evercore ISI, who added that no bear market has ever bottomed before a recession has started. Emanuel recommends a defensive position as the first half of 2023 could remain volatile still.</p><p>“The pullback in the market today — we aren’t surprised by it,” Nadia Lovell, UBS Global Wealth Management senior US equity strategist, told Bloomberg Television on Thursday. “This is a market that has traded on the hope that the Fed will not do what they say they will do. Yesterday they sent a clearly different message.”</p><p>“The risk is to the upside. That is what the market is grappling with today,” Lovell added. “We don’t yet think the bottom is into this market. You’ll probably see it in the first half of the year.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Stock Market Traders Discover That Bad News Is Bad After All</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nStock Market Traders Discover That Bad News Is Bad After All\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-12-16 09:07 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-15/stock-market-traders-discover-that-bad-news-is-bad-after-all?srnd=premium><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Concern is growth and what will happen to economy: MahajanThe bottom isn’t in yet for the market, says Lovell at UBSOrder is being restored in financial markets, a frightening development for equity ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-15/stock-market-traders-discover-that-bad-news-is-bad-after-all?srnd=premium\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-15/stock-market-traders-discover-that-bad-news-is-bad-after-all?srnd=premium","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2291153000","content_text":"Concern is growth and what will happen to economy: MahajanThe bottom isn’t in yet for the market, says Lovell at UBSOrder is being restored in financial markets, a frightening development for equity bulls.For the first time in a long time, news that was bad for the economy was bad for the stock market as well, more proof that recession fear has replaced inflation angst as that market’s biggest bugaboo. That bonds took the news in stride is nice for investors with a toe in each market, but adds to evidence that concern about the economy has become the bigger input to both.Rather than rise on speculation that weak data would curb Federal Reserve tightening, the S&P 500 dropped 2.5% on Thursday, while the Nasdaq 100 lost 3.4%. Small-cap stocks lost more than 2.5% and the VIX volatility gauge shot back above 22. The yield on 10-year Treasuries hovered around 3.45%, down from a peak of 3.63% earlier this week.“The concern is growth and what’s going to happen to the economy, and is the Fed pushing us into recession,” Mona Mahajan, senior investment strategist at Edward Jones, said on Bloomberg’s “What Goes Up” podcast on Thursday. “Markets won’t ignore the fact that we’re entering a downturn — and so could we head back toward those lows, give up some of the gains that we’ve seen recently? We think that is certainly a scenario that is a credible one.”In months prior, bad economic news was often taken as good by investors because it suggested the Federal Reserve’s interest-rate increases were working as intended to cool the economy and tamp down inflation. But now a shift may be at hand: Many investors are worrying more about a recession in 2023, with the risk increasing that the Fed could overtighten.Data Thursday suggested US economic growth is slowing, with retail sales and manufacturing dropping last month, though the labor market has remained strong. Retail sales fell in November by the most in nearly a year, calling into question the health of the consumer, while several factory measures also showed contraction, burdened by weaker demand, among other things. Meanwhile, regional Federal Reserve banks data showed that manufacturing weakened in both the New York and Philadelphia regions by more than expected — the latter’s new orders gauge fell to the lowest since the onset of the pandemic.“Investors took their eye off the ball and were hoping for a glide path into the holidays,” said Mike Bailey, director of research at FBB Capital Partners. “Markets are realizing that we are in for a staring contest between Jay Powell and investors that could go on for three, six, or nine months.” He added that yields on short-term Treasuries rose Thursday, while those on longer-term ones declined, “which would support a theme of a hawkish Fed move near-term, pushing rates up, but also leading to perhaps a worse recession, which might suggest slower long-term growth and lower long rates.”The iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF, known by its ticker TLT, is on pace to beat the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) for five straight weeks, the longest winning streak since March of 2020. The Treasury fund is outperforming the latter by nearly 10 percentage points in December, poised for its best month since that period as well.On Wednesday, the Fed raised its benchmark rate by 50 basis points to a 4.25%-to-4.5% target range and policymakers predicted rates would end next year at 5.1%, a higher level than previously indicated. Chair Jerome Powell reiterated that the central bank would keep rates higher for longer, and played down hopes for a rate cut next year.The Fed also, among other projections, updated its forecast for the unemployment rate, saying it could rise to 4.6% next year — and such a hike from July’s trough of 3.5% “has never not caused a recession,” wrote Julian Emanuel, chief equity, derivatives and quantitative strategist at Evercore ISI, who added that no bear market has ever bottomed before a recession has started. Emanuel recommends a defensive position as the first half of 2023 could remain volatile still.“The pullback in the market today — we aren’t surprised by it,” Nadia Lovell, UBS Global Wealth Management senior US equity strategist, told Bloomberg Television on Thursday. “This is a market that has traded on the hope that the Fed will not do what they say they will do. Yesterday they sent a clearly different message.”“The risk is to the upside. That is what the market is grappling with today,” Lovell added. “We don’t yet think the bottom is into this market. You’ll probably see it in the first half of the year.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":185,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":326040496648312,"gmtCreate":1720623895129,"gmtModify":1720623899148,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Seriously I expected tis to happen cos there are many out there who are against tsla. Ask urself..how did tis stock suddenly rise so much in two weeks? Becos people are buying and these analyst missed the boat","listText":"Seriously I expected tis to happen cos there are many out there who are against tsla. Ask urself..how did tis stock suddenly rise so much in two weeks? Becos people are buying and these analyst missed the boat","text":"Seriously I expected tis to happen cos there are many out there who are against tsla. Ask urself..how did tis stock suddenly rise so much in two weeks? Becos people are buying and these analyst missed the boat","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/326040496648312","repostId":"2450024292","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2450024292","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1720623704,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2450024292?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-10 23:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock: Sell The Rip","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2450024292","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"I don't think the current recovery rally in Tesla, Inc. stock will last long as it is not backed by the company's most important fundamentals as far as I can see.Q2 consolidated delivery figures becam","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>I don&#39;t think the current recovery rally in Tesla, Inc. stock will last long as it is not backed by the company&#39;s most important fundamentals as far as I can see.</p></li><li><p>Q2 consolidated delivery figures became the ultimate catalyst for Tesla to start the recovery rally, as it reported 443,956 deliveries for Q2, surpassing the consensus of 437,812.</p></li><li><p>In the short term, I expect Tesla stock to start testing its way out of the recent price consolidation. The seasonal data points to a weak momentum shortly.</p></li><li><p>Given the serious overvaluation (40.5x P/E forecast for 2028), I see some pretty serious downside ahead.</p></li><li><p>I&#39;ve therefore decided to leave my “Sell” rating unchanged today. Sell the rip.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c20a387bc8b53438311bb3b97e7cc3\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>Magnus Kvandal</p><p></p><h2 id=\"id_3935789703\">Intro &amp; Thesis</h2><p>If you&#39;ve been following me for a while, you&#39;ve probably read some of my previous 15 articles on <strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA) stock. I downgraded the stock back in April 2024 when a share was trading for $185. I made the case for not buying the dip, and since then, TSLA&#39;s performance can be compared to that of the S&amp;P 500 Index (SP500, SPY) thanks to the rally we&#39;ve seen over the past three weeks alone.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4810c62fa48e365d7719d16f562891bd\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"248\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha Premium, TSLA</p><p></p><p>Despite this phenomenal strength and the growing positive sentiment around TSLA, I don&#39;t think the current recovery rally will last long as it is not backed by the company&#39;s most important fundamentals as far as I can see.</p><h2 id=\"id_1680935579\">Why Do I Think So?</h2><p>As is typically the case with a thesis update, it&#39;s essential to be guided by the latest financial data. Therefore, I suggest taking a closer look at Tesla&#39;s Q1 2024 results, even though they are likely already fully reflected in the current stock price given the time since their publication.</p><p>In Q1, Tesla&#39;s overall revenue declined by 9% to $21.301 billion. TSLA&#39;s Automotive division revenue was the key &#34;negative driver&#34; as it fell by 13% to $17.378 billion, while Services and Other revenue rose 25% YoY to $2.288 billion. The consolidated gross profit margin continued its downward trajectory, slipping from 19.34% last year to 17.35%, according to Seeking Alpha data. As we can see, the Auto margins saw a slight dip from 18.9% to 18.5%. However, as the CFO noted during the latest earnings call, when excluding the impact of the Cybertruck and the ramp-up costs for the Model 3 in Fremont, the margins actually improved slightly. This was thanks to cost reductions and revenue from the new Autopark feature for certain U.S. vehicles.</p><p>In Q1 2024, Tesla delivered 386,810 vehicles, including 17,027 Model S and Model X and 369,783 Model 3 and Model Y, marking a 9% decrease from Q1 2023. We know that the Shanghai factory has been running at full capacity since Q4 last year despite previous production lulls, but this fact didn&#39;t help Tesla to maintain its market share in China, which continued to shrink in June:</p><blockquote><p><em>Tesla&#39;s share of China&#39;s new energy vehicle (NEV) market, which includes both battery electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids, </em><strong><em>fell to 6.92% in June, down from 11.16% last year.</em></strong><em> However, on a sequential basis, Tesla&#39;s sales in China are up 7.33% from May, when the Elon Musk-led company sold 55,215 vehicles.</em></p><p>Source: Benzinga [July 8, 2024], emphasis added.</p></blockquote><p>On the bright side, the launch of Cybertruck sales has enabled the company to increase its global market share to 20%, according to CounterPoint Research. That&#39;s 2% less than in Q1 FY2023, but on a QoQ basis the growth looks significant indeed.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/da7c6212bb7fa2d16415c72b3065aa0d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"187\"/></p><p>CounterPoint Research data</p><p></p><p>Tesla&#39;s revenue from Energy Generation and Storage grew in Q1 by 7% YoY to $1.635 billion due to high demand for Powerwall and Megapack products. However, such a low growth rate doesn&#39;t indicate to me any outstanding demand in the market, to be honest. Anyway, this demand is now &#34;leading Tesla to scale up production in a dedicated Megapack facility.&#34; Although perhaps my skepticism is unfounded because Tesla achieved a record high for stationary storage deployments at 9.4 GWh in Q2, nearly double Morgan Stanley&#39;s forecast (proprietary source, July 2024 data).</p><p>As we know, the company faced enormous operational challenges, including shipping disruptions in the Red Sea and an arson attack at Gigafactory Berlin; both challenges have been resolved, according to the management commentary. Q2 delivery numbers indicate that it&#39;s indeed the case, as the company delivered 33,000 more units than it produced in Q2, resulting in a 7-day reduction in days&#39; supply of inventory. This reduction provided a $1.5 billion boost to working capital (way higher than many analysts expected in the recent past). Overall, the Q2 consolidated delivery figures became the ultimate catalyst for TSLA to start the recovery rally, as it reported 443,956 deliveries for Q2, surpassing the consensus of 437,812.</p><p>My current view on Tesla is quite mixed. On one hand, the company is clearly feeling strong pressure from its Chinese peers and the pricing war keeps damaging the margins. On the other hand, Tesla remains the largest EV maker in terms of global reach and brand strength. I agree with Argus Research analysts who noted recently (proprietary source, May 2024) that Tesla is navigating between 2 major growth phases now: the global expansion of the Model 3/Y platform and advancements in autonomy and new product introductions.</p><p>However, I have some reservations about Argus&#39; other assessment. While the EV industry growth has slowed, they believe Tesla will overcome short-term demand and production challenges, ultimately emerging as a stronger and more efficient EV producer in both the short and long term. I think that despite Tesla&#39;s strong long-term prospects (I sincerely believe in Tesla for the next 5–10 years), the short-to-medium term future does not look as promising. In any case, I can&#39;t say that we have enough reason to believe otherwise.</p><p>Morgan Stanley remains cautious about Tesla&#39;s ability to match last year&#39;s delivery numbers, noting that Tesla would need to grow 2H 2024 deliveries by around 6% YoY to maintain volume. I don&#39;t think this will be as easy to do as it might seem at first glance.</p><p>One major area of concern I see is vehicle pricing and the automotive non-GAAP gross margin. This could be taken as optimistic for future prices that inventory levels fell, but 0%/low financing incentives and lower production in Q2 are likely to be margin headwinds according to Goldman Sachs analysts (proprietary source, July 2024). Moreover, margins may come under more strain due to potential tariffs later this year.</p><p>Another significant risk is the timing for new lower-cost models or variants. As we know, Tesla plans to begin shipping these new models as early as late 2024 or 2025. So, given the tight timeframe and the use of existing manufacturing lines, these new models may initially incorporate design elements from the Model 3 and Model Y.</p><p>The degree to which these new features and costs will be differentiated and how it all may lead to a growth slow is a big question right now. I think the company can, without even noticing it, cannibalize part of its existing traffic in this way.</p><p>It also confuses me that Wall Street is forecasting 20% earnings per share growth (CAGR) over the next 5 years and TSLA is expected to trade at 40.5x earnings at the end of 2028.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/64fc93da59973793c1e42869f146b198\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"173\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha, TSLA, the author&#39;s notes</p><p></p><p>I don’t see much point in building a DCF model to question such a high premium. Of course, we can assume that robotaxis will take over the world, AI-powered solutions in autonomous transportation will change the game and all that, but none of that can happen overnight in my opinion. The company&#39;s stock needs to have a margin of safety that allows it to grow comfortably even at a somewhat high valuation. Take Nvidia (NVDA) as an example - even after a phenomenal rally, it eventually traded below 20x the forwarding P/E ratio, leaving many skeptics (myself included) hanging. But with Tesla, we see that it has no such margin of safety - the rally of the last few weeks is based only on hope and is not confirmed by the fundamentals.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/83926df5c79bcdf1f59e5e58c088ce0d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"302\"/></p><p>TrendSpider Software, TSLA weekly, notes added</p><p></p><p>In the short term, I expect Tesla stock to start testing its way out of the recent price consolidation. The seasonal data on stock trading since 2010 points to a weakening of buyers in late summer - early fall.</p><p>Therefore, I recommend selling the current rip in TSLA stock.</p><h2 id=\"id_891535734\">Where Can I Be Wrong?</h2><p>Actually, I&#39;m taking a significant risk in rating Tesla a &#34;sell&#34; today given its recent momentum, as much of the company&#39;s downturn may already be priced in due to its cyclical nature, meaning current margin issues may not persist. Wall Street is already anticipating a decline in EPS over the next 1 quarter only. Thus, an unexpected downturn may not materialize, and the next earnings announcement (on July 23rd) could change the outlook if Elon Musk and his team present some major positive developments. Furthermore, Tesla&#39;s long-term efforts to diversify its business and expand its ecosystem may ultimately prove my medium-term, currently pessimistic view on growth potential to be unfounded.</p><p>Perhaps I&#39;m also wrong in calling Tesla as an overpriced stock because the company has many supporters who are willing to pay a very high premium for its growth prospects. This may continue.</p><h2 id=\"id_2310553008\">The Verdict</h2><p>Although, I think Tesla is a solid pick in the long term - more on this in my old articles - I&#39;m still skeptical about the current hope in the air for a quick business recovery. I really like the company&#39;s approach to diversify and build a full-fledged energy-efficient ecosystem around its brand, but I don&#39;t like the trend in gross/EBIT margins and the very high competition that is getting stronger. Although the company managed to resist its rivals effectively in Q1 and apparently also in Q2, 2024, the trend towards cheaper electric cars continues. Nobody knows how low Tesla&#39;s gross margin can go until this is no longer a pressing issue for the company. Given the serious overvaluation (40.5x P/E forecast for 2028), I see some pretty serious downside ahead. Goldman Sachs sees a downside potential of ~16.6%, but given the recent price increases, I think this could be even higher.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4fa6bd55c28a7cf3c998b67e0820458e\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"384\"/></p><p>GS [proprietary source, July 2024]</p><p></p><p>I have therefore decided to leave my &#34;Sell&#34; rating unchanged today.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock: Sell The Rip</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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The seasonal data points to a weak momentum shortly.Given the serious overvaluation (40.5x P/E forecast for 2028), I see some pretty serious downside ahead.I've therefore decided to leave my “Sell” rating unchanged today. Sell the rip.Magnus KvandalIntro & ThesisIf you've been following me for a while, you've probably read some of my previous 15 articles on Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) stock. I downgraded the stock back in April 2024 when a share was trading for $185. I made the case for not buying the dip, and since then, TSLA's performance can be compared to that of the S&P 500 Index (SP500, SPY) thanks to the rally we've seen over the past three weeks alone.Seeking Alpha Premium, TSLADespite this phenomenal strength and the growing positive sentiment around TSLA, I don't think the current recovery rally will last long as it is not backed by the company's most important fundamentals as far as I can see.Why Do I Think So?As is typically the case with a thesis update, it's essential to be guided by the latest financial data. Therefore, I suggest taking a closer look at Tesla's Q1 2024 results, even though they are likely already fully reflected in the current stock price given the time since their publication.In Q1, Tesla's overall revenue declined by 9% to $21.301 billion. TSLA's Automotive division revenue was the key \"negative driver\" as it fell by 13% to $17.378 billion, while Services and Other revenue rose 25% YoY to $2.288 billion. The consolidated gross profit margin continued its downward trajectory, slipping from 19.34% last year to 17.35%, according to Seeking Alpha data. As we can see, the Auto margins saw a slight dip from 18.9% to 18.5%. However, as the CFO noted during the latest earnings call, when excluding the impact of the Cybertruck and the ramp-up costs for the Model 3 in Fremont, the margins actually improved slightly. This was thanks to cost reductions and revenue from the new Autopark feature for certain U.S. vehicles.In Q1 2024, Tesla delivered 386,810 vehicles, including 17,027 Model S and Model X and 369,783 Model 3 and Model Y, marking a 9% decrease from Q1 2023. We know that the Shanghai factory has been running at full capacity since Q4 last year despite previous production lulls, but this fact didn't help Tesla to maintain its market share in China, which continued to shrink in June:Tesla's share of China's new energy vehicle (NEV) market, which includes both battery electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids, fell to 6.92% in June, down from 11.16% last year. However, on a sequential basis, Tesla's sales in China are up 7.33% from May, when the Elon Musk-led company sold 55,215 vehicles.Source: Benzinga [July 8, 2024], emphasis added.On the bright side, the launch of Cybertruck sales has enabled the company to increase its global market share to 20%, according to CounterPoint Research. That's 2% less than in Q1 FY2023, but on a QoQ basis the growth looks significant indeed.CounterPoint Research dataTesla's revenue from Energy Generation and Storage grew in Q1 by 7% YoY to $1.635 billion due to high demand for Powerwall and Megapack products. However, such a low growth rate doesn't indicate to me any outstanding demand in the market, to be honest. Anyway, this demand is now \"leading Tesla to scale up production in a dedicated Megapack facility.\" Although perhaps my skepticism is unfounded because Tesla achieved a record high for stationary storage deployments at 9.4 GWh in Q2, nearly double Morgan Stanley's forecast (proprietary source, July 2024 data).As we know, the company faced enormous operational challenges, including shipping disruptions in the Red Sea and an arson attack at Gigafactory Berlin; both challenges have been resolved, according to the management commentary. Q2 delivery numbers indicate that it's indeed the case, as the company delivered 33,000 more units than it produced in Q2, resulting in a 7-day reduction in days' supply of inventory. This reduction provided a $1.5 billion boost to working capital (way higher than many analysts expected in the recent past). Overall, the Q2 consolidated delivery figures became the ultimate catalyst for TSLA to start the recovery rally, as it reported 443,956 deliveries for Q2, surpassing the consensus of 437,812.My current view on Tesla is quite mixed. On one hand, the company is clearly feeling strong pressure from its Chinese peers and the pricing war keeps damaging the margins. On the other hand, Tesla remains the largest EV maker in terms of global reach and brand strength. I agree with Argus Research analysts who noted recently (proprietary source, May 2024) that Tesla is navigating between 2 major growth phases now: the global expansion of the Model 3/Y platform and advancements in autonomy and new product introductions.However, I have some reservations about Argus' other assessment. While the EV industry growth has slowed, they believe Tesla will overcome short-term demand and production challenges, ultimately emerging as a stronger and more efficient EV producer in both the short and long term. I think that despite Tesla's strong long-term prospects (I sincerely believe in Tesla for the next 5–10 years), the short-to-medium term future does not look as promising. In any case, I can't say that we have enough reason to believe otherwise.Morgan Stanley remains cautious about Tesla's ability to match last year's delivery numbers, noting that Tesla would need to grow 2H 2024 deliveries by around 6% YoY to maintain volume. I don't think this will be as easy to do as it might seem at first glance.One major area of concern I see is vehicle pricing and the automotive non-GAAP gross margin. This could be taken as optimistic for future prices that inventory levels fell, but 0%/low financing incentives and lower production in Q2 are likely to be margin headwinds according to Goldman Sachs analysts (proprietary source, July 2024). Moreover, margins may come under more strain due to potential tariffs later this year.Another significant risk is the timing for new lower-cost models or variants. As we know, Tesla plans to begin shipping these new models as early as late 2024 or 2025. So, given the tight timeframe and the use of existing manufacturing lines, these new models may initially incorporate design elements from the Model 3 and Model Y.The degree to which these new features and costs will be differentiated and how it all may lead to a growth slow is a big question right now. I think the company can, without even noticing it, cannibalize part of its existing traffic in this way.It also confuses me that Wall Street is forecasting 20% earnings per share growth (CAGR) over the next 5 years and TSLA is expected to trade at 40.5x earnings at the end of 2028.Seeking Alpha, TSLA, the author's notesI don’t see much point in building a DCF model to question such a high premium. Of course, we can assume that robotaxis will take over the world, AI-powered solutions in autonomous transportation will change the game and all that, but none of that can happen overnight in my opinion. The company's stock needs to have a margin of safety that allows it to grow comfortably even at a somewhat high valuation. Take Nvidia (NVDA) as an example - even after a phenomenal rally, it eventually traded below 20x the forwarding P/E ratio, leaving many skeptics (myself included) hanging. But with Tesla, we see that it has no such margin of safety - the rally of the last few weeks is based only on hope and is not confirmed by the fundamentals.TrendSpider Software, TSLA weekly, notes addedIn the short term, I expect Tesla stock to start testing its way out of the recent price consolidation. The seasonal data on stock trading since 2010 points to a weakening of buyers in late summer - early fall.Therefore, I recommend selling the current rip in TSLA stock.Where Can I Be Wrong?Actually, I'm taking a significant risk in rating Tesla a \"sell\" today given its recent momentum, as much of the company's downturn may already be priced in due to its cyclical nature, meaning current margin issues may not persist. Wall Street is already anticipating a decline in EPS over the next 1 quarter only. Thus, an unexpected downturn may not materialize, and the next earnings announcement (on July 23rd) could change the outlook if Elon Musk and his team present some major positive developments. Furthermore, Tesla's long-term efforts to diversify its business and expand its ecosystem may ultimately prove my medium-term, currently pessimistic view on growth potential to be unfounded.Perhaps I'm also wrong in calling Tesla as an overpriced stock because the company has many supporters who are willing to pay a very high premium for its growth prospects. This may continue.The VerdictAlthough, I think Tesla is a solid pick in the long term - more on this in my old articles - I'm still skeptical about the current hope in the air for a quick business recovery. I really like the company's approach to diversify and build a full-fledged energy-efficient ecosystem around its brand, but I don't like the trend in gross/EBIT margins and the very high competition that is getting stronger. Although the company managed to resist its rivals effectively in Q1 and apparently also in Q2, 2024, the trend towards cheaper electric cars continues. Nobody knows how low Tesla's gross margin can go until this is no longer a pressing issue for the company. Given the serious overvaluation (40.5x P/E forecast for 2028), I see some pretty serious downside ahead. Goldman Sachs sees a downside potential of ~16.6%, but given the recent price increases, I think this could be even higher.GS [proprietary source, July 2024]I have therefore decided to leave my \"Sell\" rating unchanged today.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":195,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":298694467895400,"gmtCreate":1713932187267,"gmtModify":1713932191568,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Now suddenly all talking Tsla is good buy? Just last week all shun away. Its all controlled by Elon!&nbsp;","listText":"Now suddenly all talking Tsla is good buy? Just last week all shun away. Its all controlled by Elon!&nbsp;","text":"Now suddenly all talking Tsla is good buy? Just last week all shun away. Its all controlled by Elon!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/298694467895400","repostId":"2429174039","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2429174039","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1713927998,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2429174039?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-04-24 11:06","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: Q1 Wasn't Great, But The Growth Story Is Better Than Ever","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2429174039","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Tesla's Q1 earnings showed a decline in revenue and profitability, but the market is giving the company credit for its vision and product roadmap.The author has changed their position on Tesla and is ","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla&#39;s Q1 earnings showed a decline in revenue and profitability, but the market is giving the company credit for its vision and product roadmap.</p></li><li><p>The author has changed their position on Tesla and is now bullish, citing the potential of Optimus, humanoid robots, FSD, Robotaxi, and the charging network.</p></li><li><p>While there are risks and the company is still expensive, the author believes in Tesla&#39;s potential to become the most valuable company in the market.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/587302ace511c033c7920453f8b18a09\" alt=\"wellesenterprises\" title=\"wellesenterprises\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"489\"/><span>wellesenterprises</span></p><p>The bar was low going into Q1 earnings, as everyone expected, a top and bottom-line decline. The main concerns were how Elon would conduct himself and what the product roadmap would look like. There is no secret that I was bearish on Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) for years, and the turning point was the introduction of Optimus. While the Q1 numbers showed a QoQ and YoY decline in revenue and profitability from EBITDA to net income, the market looks as if it&#39;s giving the team at TSLA tremendous credit as shares are up over 10% after hours. I am going to eat my previous words and come out and say that TSLA is not just a car company. At this point, you either believe in TSLA&#39;s vision and product roadmap, or you don&#39;t. From a financial perspective, this wasn&#39;t a quarter to get excited about, and looking at the numbers on a trailing twelve-month (TTM) basis, TSLA looks overvalued. The market is forward-looking, though, and TSLA is positioning itself as the company that will crack the code from robotics to autonomy. I have been adding to my position in TSLA throughout Q1, and I plan on adding to my position throughout the rest of 2024 as the next phase of growth could be more explosive than the first phase for TSLA.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/25e539165dc3d613a6d5ce236c6a28db\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"388\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><p>On today&#39;s earnings call, Elon and the team at TSLA provided critical insights to the product roadmap, and TSLA is now one of my top picks for the next 5 years as long as they can deliver. I am following up to discuss why I am now extremely bullish on TSLA.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e488d47fc29842650d7fbfffca45d1ca\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"217\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><h3 id=\"id_3726187970\">Risks to my investment thesis</h3><p>There are several risks to my investment thesis, and just because I can see the vision doesn&#39;t mean it will actually play out the way I envision it. The first risk is Elon himself because we never know what we&#39;re going to get. While he says his main focus continues to be TSLA, he is leading several large companies, and there is always a chance that he will go down the rabbit hole and focus the majority of his energy somewhere else. The next risk is execution, and while TSLA has made tremendous progress in several areas, it still needs to finish building FSD, implement a Robotaxi network, improve Optimus, and get past federal and local regulations regarding self-driving. Just because the roadmap looks great doesn&#39;t mean it will play out that way and today if you look at TSLA from a pure numbers aspect without taking into consideration future potential, the valuation can look stretched. While the market seems to be buying into the vision, we could see some of its projects get delayed, and the market turn on TSLA just as quickly as it is lifting shares from the recent bottom.</p><h3 id=\"id_1861293871\">Tesla&#39;s Q1 numbers weren&#39;t good, and the company is still expensive, no matter how you value the company</h3><p>For years, I had valued and argued that TSLA was just an automotive company, but not anymore. Some will agree, and some will argue that TSLA is just a car company, as it&#39;s about perspective at the end of the day. I am looking at the numbers and how TSLA is diversifying its business to provide a roadmap of what is on the horizon when its other business ventures come online. In Q1 2023, total automotive revenue accounted for 85.57% of its total revenue ($19.96 billion / $23.33 billion). After the cost of the automotive revenue was factored in, TSLA generated $4.21 billion in gross profit from automotive, which was 93.28% of their total gross profit, which came in at $4.51 billion. Fast-forward a year to the numbers we received today, TSLA generated 81.58% of its total revenue from automotive ($17.38 billion / $21.3 billion). Automotive&#39;s accounted for 86.91% of TSLA&#39;s gross profit in Q1 2024 ($3.21 billion / $3.7 billion). While the macroeconomic environment hasn&#39;t been favorable for the automotive industry in general, the amount of revenue generated by energy generation and storage, and the services business segments increased by 16.55% YoY. Energy generation and storage watched its Q1 revenue increase by $106 million (6.93%) YoY, while services increased by $451 million (24.55%) YoY. TSLA is slowly becoming more diversified, and this helps the narrative about them not being just a car company.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/cbae9763579d5f1fdd18aaba2db2444f\" alt=\"Tesla\" title=\"Tesla\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"344\"/><span>Tesla</span></p><p>This wasn&#39;t TSLA&#39;s shining moment from a numbers&#39; aspect, and if you look at TSLA as just a car company, then it looks overvalued. TSLA has a market cap of $453 billion and just put up its worst quarter in 5 quarters. Revenue declined -9% YoY in Q1 to $21.30 billion, while its net income dropped -55% and its free cash flow (FCF) was non-existent. Looking at TSLA as a Magnificent Seven stock and also as an automotive company, TSLA looks overvalued today, and over the next several years. For investors who choose to look at TSLA as strictly a car company, its 52.97x multiple on 2024 earnings will look crazy against Ford (F) trading at 6.92 times and GM (GM) trading at 5 times 2024 earnings. As a Magnificent Seven stock, TSLA also looks overvalued as it trades at 52.97 times 2024 earnings compared to NVIDIA (NVDA) at 33.42 times 2024 earnings. Even looking out to 2026, TSLA trades at a forward P/E of 31.44 times, which is more than any of the companies in the Magnificent Seven.</p><p>TSLA&#39;s total production in automotives declined by -2% YoY, while deliveries declined by -9% YoY. Many had expected rate cuts to have already started by now, but it doesn&#39;t look like they&#39;re coming at the May meeting. The higher for longer rate environment is constraining capital for many individuals, and this hurts large ticket items such as automotives. We could be in a higher for longer environment that rolls into 2025 without a rate cut, and there is no telling what the Fed will actually do. Other manufacturers are shifting gears toward plug-in hybrids, while TSLA stays true to the EV market. From a valuation perspective, TSLA is expensive, and the recent bump after hours could be short-lived. If you don&#39;t believe in the vision, TSLA won&#39;t fit in your valuation model because there are many other opportunities that are attractively priced.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a4c5f742b2246c0878340df606fd69ca\" alt=\"Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"170\"/><span>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5ae9d733359b53774295444a75d4f40c\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"200\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><h3 id=\"id_2713519138\">The automotive business will fund TSLA&#39;s vision and could make it the most valuable company in the market someday</h3><p>While I admit that TSLA is trading at a large premium, I am not buying shares of TSLA for the company it is today. I am investing for 5-10 years forward because of the potential its businesses have. Put valuation aside for a moment, TSLA has created a company that can fund its future endeavors quite easily. TSLA is sitting on $26.86 billion in cash after allocating capital toward GPUs to advance its FSD vision. The operating aspect for TSLA is still profitable, and TSLA has less than $3 billion in debt on its balance sheet. TSLA has put themselves in a position where they are still generating billions in profitability, has a net-debt position of over $20 billion, and is continuing to put vehicles on the road, which will be the foundation of one of its future businesses. This isn&#39;t a company tapping the debt markets trying to get proof of concept. TSLA is advancing in several areas, and the vision could make TSLA the most valuable company if the team can deliver.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/afdd424f9b8ff898f17f13f1766d6db0\" alt=\"Tesla\" title=\"Tesla\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"345\"/><span>Tesla</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b4bcc672a033958fc279d78d2bbd7cbf\" alt=\"Tesla\" title=\"Tesla\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\"/><span>Tesla</span></p><p>For me, I am investing in TSLA because of 4 things, humanoid robots, FSD, Robotaxi, and the charging network. Since I became bullish on TSLA, I have said that Optimus could be larger than the entire car business. On the earnings call, Elon said:</p><blockquote><p>Optimus is able to already do some small factory tasks in the lab. We may be able to sell it externally by the end of next year. Optimus may be more valuable than everything else combined.&#34;</p></blockquote><p>There are roughly 142 million homes in the United States, 84.37 million white-collar jobs, and 63.6 million blue-collar jobs. This is only a small fraction when you think about the global market. The potential for robots is limitless, and the company that is first to market will likely dominate the market. Personally, I will buy Optimus at the $20-$25,000 price point that has been discussed if it&#39;s able to do simple tasks such as cleaning and doing laundry. When I purchase one, I am not going to purchase another one just because another company brought one to market. TSLA has a large lead, and if they&#39;re able to start selling them externally by the end of next year, they will likely create a large moat in the sector. When I think about the impact on TSLA&#39;s financials, Optimus could have its dramatic, especially if there is a service plan attached to it through TSLA&#39;s AI network, which allows each Optimus bot to learn as tasks are performed across the network in real-time. If Optimus gains a 10% foothold in homes, blue-collar, and white-collar jobs at a $22,000 price point, it could generate $638.75 billion in revenue. If each bot has a learning plan at $39.99 per month, it could generate $1.16 billion in monthly recurring revenue. The scalability is huge when I think about the global market, from homes to warehouses.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/a1a42b87ee0643c71ba8e95cc2ae757a\" alt=\"Steven Fiorillo\" title=\"Steven Fiorillo\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"302\"/><span>Steven Fiorillo</span></p><p>Next is FSD and Robotaxis. The global taxi market is expected to reach $120.89 billion by 2027. On the earnings call, Elon indicated that cyber-cabs were coming sooner than later, and with the amount of miles driven in FSD V12 it&#39;s when, not if. What could be more important is that he said one of the large auto manufacturers is in talks to license FSD from TSLA. FSD and Robotaxis have been 2 areas that I am up in the air on due to regulation. I have no doubt that this is the way of the future and that TSLA is ahead of its competitors in these areas, but they will need to pass regulations to make them a reality. When they get there, TSLA will certainly generate organically from its customer base from FSD. TSLA should also have no problem building out a ride-hailing service, considering they pretty much have the U.S. mapped out from miles driven already. Even if ride-hailing through a Robotaxi fleet isn&#39;t a reality until 2030, there is potential for this to become a $10 billion-dollar business if it takes less than 10% of the taxi market. Uber Technologies (UBER) is already generating $37 billion in annual revenue, and TSLA has the potential to disrupt the entire sector in the same regard that UBER did. The feather in TSLA&#39;s cap could be licensing because if they license FSD to a large automotive manufacturer, theoretically those vehicles would also be able to utilize the Robotaxi network.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/7d8ff799c08df8b429853416a7afbcfa\" alt=\"Steven Fiorillo, Allied Market Research\" title=\"Steven Fiorillo, Allied Market Research\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"360\"/><span>Steven Fiorillo, Allied Market Research</span></p><p>TSLA now has 6,249 Supercharger stations with 57,579 Superchargers. They also have over 40,000 wall connectors at destination charging stations. TSLA&#39;s network has opened up to GM and Ford EVs as of February 2024, with other large manufacturers adopting the NACS connector in future EV&#39;s. When I model out the potential for supercharging stations, it&#39;s interesting, especially since this is in its infancy. There are 525,600 minutes in a year, which means that TSLA has roughly 51.28 billion charging minutes across its chargers. At $0.13 per KWH under 60KWH and $0.26 per KWH over 60KWH, TSLA has the potential to generate $10.26 billion in revenue if every charger is used 24/7. At a 20% gross margin, this would be a potential gross profit of $2.05 billion. If TSLA&#39;s chargers had a 25% utilization rate, they could generate $2.56 billion in revenue and $512.88 billion in gross profit for TSLA. When you combine FSD and Robotaxi in the mix, if a TSLA needs a charge, it is likely to direct the car to a TSLA charging station. This business is certainly years away from being instrumental, but TSLA has laid the foundation with over 6,000 stations. Think about what this could look like in 20 years. Not only would TSLA generate revenue from the vehicles, but they would also generate revenue from the software and charging on their vehicles, in addition to licensing the software to other manufacturers and having those EVs charge at TSLA stations.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/70003a492e235cee41998ca5d891cd28\" alt=\"Steven Fiorillo, Tesla\" title=\"Steven Fiorillo, Tesla\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"360\"/><span>Steven Fiorillo, Tesla</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/43c8244b599c7ef7f49c95de0d5ec6fd\" alt=\"Tesla\" title=\"Tesla\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"455\"/><span>Tesla</span></p><h2 id=\"id_1744229713\">Conclusion</h2><p>I am a reformed TSLA bear and have been buying shares into earnings. This earnings call was completely opposite from what occurred on the last earnings call, and the TSLA vision is in full swing. Shares of TSLA are still very pricey, and I would agree that for the earnings they are generating today and what they are expected to generate over the next couple of years, TSLA is expensive. At this point, you either believe in the future TSLA is trying to build, or you don&#39;t. I am willing to pay for growth if I believe in the investment thesis, and if TSLA can pull all of this off, it could become the most valuable company in the market down the road. A lot has to go right, and there are many threats to my bull thesis, but Elon has been able to manage multiple companies, so if there is anyone who can pull off a massive multi-prong vision, it&#39;s him. I could be incorrect, and the after-hours pop could disappear, but I believe Optimus will be larger than the automotive business, and technology only advances forward, making TSLA an interesting growth story for the next decade.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Q1 Wasn't Great, But The Growth Story Is Better Than Ever</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Q1 Wasn't Great, But The Growth Story Is Better Than Ever\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-04-24 11:06 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4685512-tesla-stock-q1-wasnt-great-growth-story-is-better-than-ever><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla's Q1 earnings showed a decline in revenue and profitability, but the market is giving the company credit for its vision and product roadmap.The author has changed their position on Tesla and is ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4685512-tesla-stock-q1-wasnt-great-growth-story-is-better-than-ever\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4685512-tesla-stock-q1-wasnt-great-growth-story-is-better-than-ever","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2429174039","content_text":"Tesla's Q1 earnings showed a decline in revenue and profitability, but the market is giving the company credit for its vision and product roadmap.The author has changed their position on Tesla and is now bullish, citing the potential of Optimus, humanoid robots, FSD, Robotaxi, and the charging network.While there are risks and the company is still expensive, the author believes in Tesla's potential to become the most valuable company in the market.wellesenterprisesThe bar was low going into Q1 earnings, as everyone expected, a top and bottom-line decline. The main concerns were how Elon would conduct himself and what the product roadmap would look like. There is no secret that I was bearish on Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) for years, and the turning point was the introduction of Optimus. While the Q1 numbers showed a QoQ and YoY decline in revenue and profitability from EBITDA to net income, the market looks as if it's giving the team at TSLA tremendous credit as shares are up over 10% after hours. I am going to eat my previous words and come out and say that TSLA is not just a car company. At this point, you either believe in TSLA's vision and product roadmap, or you don't. From a financial perspective, this wasn't a quarter to get excited about, and looking at the numbers on a trailing twelve-month (TTM) basis, TSLA looks overvalued. The market is forward-looking, though, and TSLA is positioning itself as the company that will crack the code from robotics to autonomy. I have been adding to my position in TSLA throughout Q1, and I plan on adding to my position throughout the rest of 2024 as the next phase of growth could be more explosive than the first phase for TSLA.Seeking AlphaOn today's earnings call, Elon and the team at TSLA provided critical insights to the product roadmap, and TSLA is now one of my top picks for the next 5 years as long as they can deliver. I am following up to discuss why I am now extremely bullish on TSLA.Seeking AlphaRisks to my investment thesisThere are several risks to my investment thesis, and just because I can see the vision doesn't mean it will actually play out the way I envision it. The first risk is Elon himself because we never know what we're going to get. While he says his main focus continues to be TSLA, he is leading several large companies, and there is always a chance that he will go down the rabbit hole and focus the majority of his energy somewhere else. The next risk is execution, and while TSLA has made tremendous progress in several areas, it still needs to finish building FSD, implement a Robotaxi network, improve Optimus, and get past federal and local regulations regarding self-driving. Just because the roadmap looks great doesn't mean it will play out that way and today if you look at TSLA from a pure numbers aspect without taking into consideration future potential, the valuation can look stretched. While the market seems to be buying into the vision, we could see some of its projects get delayed, and the market turn on TSLA just as quickly as it is lifting shares from the recent bottom.Tesla's Q1 numbers weren't good, and the company is still expensive, no matter how you value the companyFor years, I had valued and argued that TSLA was just an automotive company, but not anymore. Some will agree, and some will argue that TSLA is just a car company, as it's about perspective at the end of the day. I am looking at the numbers and how TSLA is diversifying its business to provide a roadmap of what is on the horizon when its other business ventures come online. In Q1 2023, total automotive revenue accounted for 85.57% of its total revenue ($19.96 billion / $23.33 billion). After the cost of the automotive revenue was factored in, TSLA generated $4.21 billion in gross profit from automotive, which was 93.28% of their total gross profit, which came in at $4.51 billion. Fast-forward a year to the numbers we received today, TSLA generated 81.58% of its total revenue from automotive ($17.38 billion / $21.3 billion). Automotive's accounted for 86.91% of TSLA's gross profit in Q1 2024 ($3.21 billion / $3.7 billion). While the macroeconomic environment hasn't been favorable for the automotive industry in general, the amount of revenue generated by energy generation and storage, and the services business segments increased by 16.55% YoY. Energy generation and storage watched its Q1 revenue increase by $106 million (6.93%) YoY, while services increased by $451 million (24.55%) YoY. TSLA is slowly becoming more diversified, and this helps the narrative about them not being just a car company.TeslaThis wasn't TSLA's shining moment from a numbers' aspect, and if you look at TSLA as just a car company, then it looks overvalued. TSLA has a market cap of $453 billion and just put up its worst quarter in 5 quarters. Revenue declined -9% YoY in Q1 to $21.30 billion, while its net income dropped -55% and its free cash flow (FCF) was non-existent. Looking at TSLA as a Magnificent Seven stock and also as an automotive company, TSLA looks overvalued today, and over the next several years. For investors who choose to look at TSLA as strictly a car company, its 52.97x multiple on 2024 earnings will look crazy against Ford (F) trading at 6.92 times and GM (GM) trading at 5 times 2024 earnings. As a Magnificent Seven stock, TSLA also looks overvalued as it trades at 52.97 times 2024 earnings compared to NVIDIA (NVDA) at 33.42 times 2024 earnings. Even looking out to 2026, TSLA trades at a forward P/E of 31.44 times, which is more than any of the companies in the Magnificent Seven.TSLA's total production in automotives declined by -2% YoY, while deliveries declined by -9% YoY. Many had expected rate cuts to have already started by now, but it doesn't look like they're coming at the May meeting. The higher for longer rate environment is constraining capital for many individuals, and this hurts large ticket items such as automotives. We could be in a higher for longer environment that rolls into 2025 without a rate cut, and there is no telling what the Fed will actually do. Other manufacturers are shifting gears toward plug-in hybrids, while TSLA stays true to the EV market. From a valuation perspective, TSLA is expensive, and the recent bump after hours could be short-lived. If you don't believe in the vision, TSLA won't fit in your valuation model because there are many other opportunities that are attractively priced.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaSeeking AlphaThe automotive business will fund TSLA's vision and could make it the most valuable company in the market somedayWhile I admit that TSLA is trading at a large premium, I am not buying shares of TSLA for the company it is today. I am investing for 5-10 years forward because of the potential its businesses have. Put valuation aside for a moment, TSLA has created a company that can fund its future endeavors quite easily. TSLA is sitting on $26.86 billion in cash after allocating capital toward GPUs to advance its FSD vision. The operating aspect for TSLA is still profitable, and TSLA has less than $3 billion in debt on its balance sheet. TSLA has put themselves in a position where they are still generating billions in profitability, has a net-debt position of over $20 billion, and is continuing to put vehicles on the road, which will be the foundation of one of its future businesses. This isn't a company tapping the debt markets trying to get proof of concept. TSLA is advancing in several areas, and the vision could make TSLA the most valuable company if the team can deliver.TeslaTeslaFor me, I am investing in TSLA because of 4 things, humanoid robots, FSD, Robotaxi, and the charging network. Since I became bullish on TSLA, I have said that Optimus could be larger than the entire car business. On the earnings call, Elon said:Optimus is able to already do some small factory tasks in the lab. We may be able to sell it externally by the end of next year. Optimus may be more valuable than everything else combined.\"There are roughly 142 million homes in the United States, 84.37 million white-collar jobs, and 63.6 million blue-collar jobs. This is only a small fraction when you think about the global market. The potential for robots is limitless, and the company that is first to market will likely dominate the market. Personally, I will buy Optimus at the $20-$25,000 price point that has been discussed if it's able to do simple tasks such as cleaning and doing laundry. When I purchase one, I am not going to purchase another one just because another company brought one to market. TSLA has a large lead, and if they're able to start selling them externally by the end of next year, they will likely create a large moat in the sector. When I think about the impact on TSLA's financials, Optimus could have its dramatic, especially if there is a service plan attached to it through TSLA's AI network, which allows each Optimus bot to learn as tasks are performed across the network in real-time. If Optimus gains a 10% foothold in homes, blue-collar, and white-collar jobs at a $22,000 price point, it could generate $638.75 billion in revenue. If each bot has a learning plan at $39.99 per month, it could generate $1.16 billion in monthly recurring revenue. The scalability is huge when I think about the global market, from homes to warehouses.Steven FiorilloNext is FSD and Robotaxis. The global taxi market is expected to reach $120.89 billion by 2027. On the earnings call, Elon indicated that cyber-cabs were coming sooner than later, and with the amount of miles driven in FSD V12 it's when, not if. What could be more important is that he said one of the large auto manufacturers is in talks to license FSD from TSLA. FSD and Robotaxis have been 2 areas that I am up in the air on due to regulation. I have no doubt that this is the way of the future and that TSLA is ahead of its competitors in these areas, but they will need to pass regulations to make them a reality. When they get there, TSLA will certainly generate organically from its customer base from FSD. TSLA should also have no problem building out a ride-hailing service, considering they pretty much have the U.S. mapped out from miles driven already. Even if ride-hailing through a Robotaxi fleet isn't a reality until 2030, there is potential for this to become a $10 billion-dollar business if it takes less than 10% of the taxi market. Uber Technologies (UBER) is already generating $37 billion in annual revenue, and TSLA has the potential to disrupt the entire sector in the same regard that UBER did. The feather in TSLA's cap could be licensing because if they license FSD to a large automotive manufacturer, theoretically those vehicles would also be able to utilize the Robotaxi network.Steven Fiorillo, Allied Market ResearchTSLA now has 6,249 Supercharger stations with 57,579 Superchargers. They also have over 40,000 wall connectors at destination charging stations. TSLA's network has opened up to GM and Ford EVs as of February 2024, with other large manufacturers adopting the NACS connector in future EV's. When I model out the potential for supercharging stations, it's interesting, especially since this is in its infancy. There are 525,600 minutes in a year, which means that TSLA has roughly 51.28 billion charging minutes across its chargers. At $0.13 per KWH under 60KWH and $0.26 per KWH over 60KWH, TSLA has the potential to generate $10.26 billion in revenue if every charger is used 24/7. At a 20% gross margin, this would be a potential gross profit of $2.05 billion. If TSLA's chargers had a 25% utilization rate, they could generate $2.56 billion in revenue and $512.88 billion in gross profit for TSLA. When you combine FSD and Robotaxi in the mix, if a TSLA needs a charge, it is likely to direct the car to a TSLA charging station. This business is certainly years away from being instrumental, but TSLA has laid the foundation with over 6,000 stations. Think about what this could look like in 20 years. Not only would TSLA generate revenue from the vehicles, but they would also generate revenue from the software and charging on their vehicles, in addition to licensing the software to other manufacturers and having those EVs charge at TSLA stations.Steven Fiorillo, TeslaTeslaConclusionI am a reformed TSLA bear and have been buying shares into earnings. This earnings call was completely opposite from what occurred on the last earnings call, and the TSLA vision is in full swing. Shares of TSLA are still very pricey, and I would agree that for the earnings they are generating today and what they are expected to generate over the next couple of years, TSLA is expensive. At this point, you either believe in the future TSLA is trying to build, or you don't. I am willing to pay for growth if I believe in the investment thesis, and if TSLA can pull all of this off, it could become the most valuable company in the market down the road. A lot has to go right, and there are many threats to my bull thesis, but Elon has been able to manage multiple companies, so if there is anyone who can pull off a massive multi-prong vision, it's him. I could be incorrect, and the after-hours pop could disappear, but I believe Optimus will be larger than the automotive business, and technology only advances forward, making TSLA an interesting growth story for the next decade.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":309,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":247412034285616,"gmtCreate":1701441436653,"gmtModify":1701441440844,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Wat a stupid perspective&nbsp;","listText":"Wat a stupid perspective&nbsp;","text":"Wat a stupid perspective","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/247412034285616","repostId":"2388258235","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2388258235","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1701433416,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2388258235?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-12-01 20:23","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Buying Tesla Taught Me a Costly Lesson","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2388258235","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Think investing in groundbreaking companies is a sure-fire win? My experience with a groundbreaking -- but deeply troubled -- innovator might change your mind.","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_265487071\" style=\"text-align: start;\">KEY POINTS</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>I invested in Tesla in 2014, drawn in by Elon Musk&#39;s innovative vision and Tesla&#39;s groundbreaking approach to electric vehicles.</p></li><li><p>Despite Musk&#39;s important role in starting the EV revolution, I&#39;ve grown skeptical of his recent decisions and Tesla&#39;s future amid rising competition.</p></li><li><p>Investing in visionary leaders like Musk can be rewarding, but it&#39;s important to balance admiration with critical analysis.</p></li></ul><p>Once upon a time, I was convinced that Elon Musk was a genius with a world-changing vision. I bought my first <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla </a> shares in the summer of 2014, citing five unique company qualities. I liked the company&#39;s radical approach to research and development, the game-changing value of lifetime Supercharger fill-ups for free, and the dealer-less system of factory-direct car sales.</p><p>But above all else, I called Musk a &#34;brilliant&#34; innovator whose long-term vision &#34;makes the world a better place.&#34; That was the heart of my thesis</p><p>So I bought a few Tesla shares that month and doubled down on that investment when the Tesla bears were running wild in October 2019. That turned out to be a good idea, and my Tesla shares skyrocketed over the next three years. All told, my Tesla investment netted me a 16-fold return on the original cash commitment.</p><p>But now I&#39;m done with Tesla. I sold most of my shares in the summer of 2022 and the rest last week. The disclosure section below this article no longer lists Tesla as a stock in my portfolio.</p><p>I can&#39;t complain about the massive gains, of course. Still, I have learned a few painful lessons along the way.</p><p>And with the benefit of hindsight, an uncomfortable truth emerged: Buying Tesla before the surge of electric-vehicle (EV) sales was not a stroke of genius on my part. I just got lucky. Even if the real-world results are incredibly strong, that&#39;s not how I like to invest.</p><h2 id=\"id_877904847\">What Elon Musk got right</h2><p>Let me repeat that crucial point: I got lucky with my money-making Tesla investment. A lucky bet isn&#39;t the same thing as a smart investment.</p><p>Three of the five main points in my investment thesis boiled down to trusting Elon Musk&#39;s innate genius. Converting a petroleum-addicted energy market into solar power and battery packs while replacing gas cars with electric vehicles still sounds like a good idea and is working out well in the real world. Tesla is a leading automaker these days, disrupting the oil-based ways of the previous era.</p><p>Musk deserves credit for kick-starting that unstoppable sea change. Thank you, Elon.</p><p>And his long-term vision used to excite me. After saving the world from the environmental carnage of burning fossil fuels, SpaceX will take us to Mars and beyond.</p><p>Space exploration. Sustainable energy. Reforming terrestrial travel with the Boring Company and Hyperloop trains. Never-ending innovation. Behind the scenes, artificial intelligence (AI) manages large projects, self-driving cars, and everything in between.</p><p>In Musk&#39;s ideal future, the Earth would be a better place, while humanity also moved on to new worlds. Tesla and its sister companies will power the revolution and pocket massive profits as a result. How could I not fall head over heels for these audacious plans?</p><h2 id=\"id_2023949260\">A fresh look at Tesla&#39;s prospects</h2><p>I still believe in many of Elon Musk&#39;s long-term goals, such as revamping energy consumption and getting serious about space exploration, again. However, Tesla isn&#39;t alone in the vanguard anymore, and I&#39;m no longer sure that Musk is the right captain for this proverbial ship.</p><p>The imploding value of X (formerly Twitter) since Musk&#39;s $44 billion buyout in 2022 shows a dark side of the businessman&#39;s supposed genius. When things don&#39;t go Elon&#39;s way, a true visionary would adjust to a challenging reality and set a new path. Instead, Musk tends to defend bad ideas and actively look for controversial solutions.</p><p>Moreover, Musk seems to enjoy generating volatility in the stock and crypto markets through downright silly posts on X and elsewhere. That&#39;s not the type of personality I want at the head of humanity&#39;s grandest corporation, as Tesla would be at the end of Elon&#39;s far-ranging plans.</p><p>Moreover, Tesla has and will have real competition every step of the way. Yes, Tesla got the ball rolling on electric vehicles, but the final winners might still be found in Detroit and Japan. Today&#39;s oil giants are turning their massive research budgets toward sustainable energy and battery technology.</p><p>Even SpaceX isn&#39;t as unique as Musk would like. Old-school aerospace giants Lockheed Martin and Boeing run a joint venture exploring next-generation rocketry, and Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos can match Musk&#39;s budget and vision with his Blue Origin space-launch business.</p><p>So it&#39;s possible to believe in Musk&#39;s original vision without supporting his recent misfires, such as the cash-burning X buyout and the thwarted Cybertruck launch. It&#39;s easy to find alternative investments for each part of the &#34;electric Mars launch&#34; vision. This way, you can still invest in making the world a better place without accepting the risks of having a divisive and unpredictable personality at the helm.</p><h2 id=\"id_1698198099\">Lessons learned: Hero worship (and other emotional reactions) has no place in investing</h2><p>So most of my reasons for investing in Tesla early on turned out to be wrong. It worked out anyway, but that&#39;s a stroke of blind luck on my part. There&#39;s no crying in baseball and no emotional antics in investing.</p><p>The next time I buy a stock because I admire the company&#39;s leadership, I need to make sure that the personality, rational quality, and ethics of my newfound heroes really are up to par. Otherwise, that so-called investment won&#39;t be any better than spinning a roulette wheel.</p><p>Sometimes, you get lucky that way. Most of the time, you don&#39;t.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Buying Tesla Taught Me a Costly Lesson</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBuying Tesla Taught Me a Costly Lesson\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-12-01 20:23 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/12/01/buying-tesla-taught-me-a-costly-lesson/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>KEY POINTSI invested in Tesla in 2014, drawn in by Elon Musk's innovative vision and Tesla's groundbreaking approach to electric vehicles.Despite Musk's important role in starting the EV revolution, I...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/12/01/buying-tesla-taught-me-a-costly-lesson/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/12/01/buying-tesla-taught-me-a-costly-lesson/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2388258235","content_text":"KEY POINTSI invested in Tesla in 2014, drawn in by Elon Musk's innovative vision and Tesla's groundbreaking approach to electric vehicles.Despite Musk's important role in starting the EV revolution, I've grown skeptical of his recent decisions and Tesla's future amid rising competition.Investing in visionary leaders like Musk can be rewarding, but it's important to balance admiration with critical analysis.Once upon a time, I was convinced that Elon Musk was a genius with a world-changing vision. I bought my first Tesla  shares in the summer of 2014, citing five unique company qualities. I liked the company's radical approach to research and development, the game-changing value of lifetime Supercharger fill-ups for free, and the dealer-less system of factory-direct car sales.But above all else, I called Musk a \"brilliant\" innovator whose long-term vision \"makes the world a better place.\" That was the heart of my thesisSo I bought a few Tesla shares that month and doubled down on that investment when the Tesla bears were running wild in October 2019. That turned out to be a good idea, and my Tesla shares skyrocketed over the next three years. All told, my Tesla investment netted me a 16-fold return on the original cash commitment.But now I'm done with Tesla. I sold most of my shares in the summer of 2022 and the rest last week. The disclosure section below this article no longer lists Tesla as a stock in my portfolio.I can't complain about the massive gains, of course. Still, I have learned a few painful lessons along the way.And with the benefit of hindsight, an uncomfortable truth emerged: Buying Tesla before the surge of electric-vehicle (EV) sales was not a stroke of genius on my part. I just got lucky. Even if the real-world results are incredibly strong, that's not how I like to invest.What Elon Musk got rightLet me repeat that crucial point: I got lucky with my money-making Tesla investment. A lucky bet isn't the same thing as a smart investment.Three of the five main points in my investment thesis boiled down to trusting Elon Musk's innate genius. Converting a petroleum-addicted energy market into solar power and battery packs while replacing gas cars with electric vehicles still sounds like a good idea and is working out well in the real world. Tesla is a leading automaker these days, disrupting the oil-based ways of the previous era.Musk deserves credit for kick-starting that unstoppable sea change. Thank you, Elon.And his long-term vision used to excite me. After saving the world from the environmental carnage of burning fossil fuels, SpaceX will take us to Mars and beyond.Space exploration. Sustainable energy. Reforming terrestrial travel with the Boring Company and Hyperloop trains. Never-ending innovation. Behind the scenes, artificial intelligence (AI) manages large projects, self-driving cars, and everything in between.In Musk's ideal future, the Earth would be a better place, while humanity also moved on to new worlds. Tesla and its sister companies will power the revolution and pocket massive profits as a result. How could I not fall head over heels for these audacious plans?A fresh look at Tesla's prospectsI still believe in many of Elon Musk's long-term goals, such as revamping energy consumption and getting serious about space exploration, again. However, Tesla isn't alone in the vanguard anymore, and I'm no longer sure that Musk is the right captain for this proverbial ship.The imploding value of X (formerly Twitter) since Musk's $44 billion buyout in 2022 shows a dark side of the businessman's supposed genius. When things don't go Elon's way, a true visionary would adjust to a challenging reality and set a new path. Instead, Musk tends to defend bad ideas and actively look for controversial solutions.Moreover, Musk seems to enjoy generating volatility in the stock and crypto markets through downright silly posts on X and elsewhere. That's not the type of personality I want at the head of humanity's grandest corporation, as Tesla would be at the end of Elon's far-ranging plans.Moreover, Tesla has and will have real competition every step of the way. Yes, Tesla got the ball rolling on electric vehicles, but the final winners might still be found in Detroit and Japan. Today's oil giants are turning their massive research budgets toward sustainable energy and battery technology.Even SpaceX isn't as unique as Musk would like. Old-school aerospace giants Lockheed Martin and Boeing run a joint venture exploring next-generation rocketry, and Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos can match Musk's budget and vision with his Blue Origin space-launch business.So it's possible to believe in Musk's original vision without supporting his recent misfires, such as the cash-burning X buyout and the thwarted Cybertruck launch. It's easy to find alternative investments for each part of the \"electric Mars launch\" vision. This way, you can still invest in making the world a better place without accepting the risks of having a divisive and unpredictable personality at the helm.Lessons learned: Hero worship (and other emotional reactions) has no place in investingSo most of my reasons for investing in Tesla early on turned out to be wrong. It worked out anyway, but that's a stroke of blind luck on my part. There's no crying in baseball and no emotional antics in investing.The next time I buy a stock because I admire the company's leadership, I need to make sure that the personality, rational quality, and ethics of my newfound heroes really are up to par. Otherwise, that so-called investment won't be any better than spinning a roulette wheel.Sometimes, you get lucky that way. Most of the time, you don't.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":548,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"4142551860919612","authorId":"4142551860919612","name":"nomadic_m","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1f3661c844e575fec696ac41d1d30e18","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"4142551860919612","authorIdStr":"4142551860919612"},"content":"what is yours? I'm intrigued to read about it. I'm neutral","text":"what is yours? I'm intrigued to read about it. I'm neutral","html":"what is yours? I'm intrigued to read about it. I'm neutral"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":241600220586216,"gmtCreate":1700012833970,"gmtModify":1700012839279,"author":{"id":"3562193648411471","authorId":"3562193648411471","name":"Coldastone17","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/4f1bd3166de45ed68ce52aacd1ca37f1","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3562193648411471","authorIdStr":"3562193648411471"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Morgan stanley says tesla will be top pick.But HSBC says dont buy tesla..so the next analyst will be trusted?? Two to one..depending wat the outcome is.&nbsp;","listText":"Morgan stanley says tesla will be top pick.But HSBC says dont buy tesla..so the next analyst will be trusted?? Two to one..depending wat the outcome is.&nbsp;","text":"Morgan stanley says tesla will be top pick.But HSBC says dont buy tesla..so the next analyst will be trusted?? Two to one..depending wat the outcome is.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/241600220586216","repostId":"2383029682","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2383029682","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1700011767,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2383029682?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-15 09:29","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Remains a \"Top Pick\" at Morgan Stanley Post UAW","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2383029682","media":"Investing.com","summary":"Morgan Stanley reiterated Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) as one of their “Top Picks” with an Overweight rating, and a 12-month price ...(Premium-only article. Please sign in or upgrade to SI Premium to view.)","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Morgan Stanley reiterated <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a> as one of their “Top Picks” with an Overweight rating, and a 12-month price target of $380.00, after the UAW made historic gains during labor contract negotiations with Detroit’s “Big Three” automakers.</p><p>Shares of TSLA are up 6.12% on Tuesday.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/682d4a466490ef50158f1b07e1cd1746\" tg-width=\"804\" tg-height=\"627\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Gains which saw to the revival of Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA) in the industry.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">COLA was seen as a ‘no fly zone’ for car companies heading into UAW negotiations. The indefinite nature of COLA introduces unpredictability into long-term labor inflation forecasts.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">According to Ford (NYSE:F), the UAW contract contributes an additional $850 to $900 per unit to the car&#39;s cost, gradually eating into around 200bps of margin before any measures are taken to address it.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Are UAW contracts a positive for China?</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Analysts at Morgan Stanley also see the new labor contracts as a potential positive for China, Mexico, Thailand, Vietnam and other countries where global manufacturers benefit from broader labor cost differentials.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">With the fresh contract in place, investors may see OEMs looking to work with their Chinese EV partners as much as possible.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">As EV adoption slows, analysts at Morgan Stanley suggest that it is unlikely the strategies implemented for EVs in the last 3yrs fully considered the speed of rising labor costs in the US market. Once the UAW contracts are officially approved, it&#39;s anticipated that automobile companies will rethink their EV plans.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">A revision may involve spending at a slower rate, placing more emphasis on partnerships, and possibly declaring losses on assets or facing reduced asset values. Although such announcements could cause fluctuations in headlines, they signify a shift towards more careful spending.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Analysts at Morgan Stanley will be on the lookout for automakers highlighting the flexibility of their EV spending budgets during the 4Q reporting period.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Will Tesla be next?</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The UAW leadership plans to organize more manufacturers, prompting some foreign auto companies to proactively increase wages.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Estimates suggest that Tesla has approximately 45,000 to 50,000 factory workers across locations like Fremont, Austin, and Reno, which are in higher cost-of-living areas compared to the average UAW worker. This collectively amounts to a US labor cost ranging between $4 billion and $5 billion for Tesla.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Can Tesla’s Optimus help?</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Long before the widespread use of walking robots, analysts at Morgan Stanley expect substantial changes in vehicle design that will lead to less labor.</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">To produce inexpensive cars in the US competitively on a global scale, new methods and technologies that are not yet available commercially will likely be necessary.</p><p></p></body></html>","source":"investingArticles_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Remains a \"Top Pick\" at Morgan Stanley Post UAW</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Remains a \"Top Pick\" at Morgan Stanley Post UAW\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-11-15 09:29 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=22409325><strong>Investing.com</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Morgan Stanley reiterated Tesla as one of their “Top Picks” with an Overweight rating, and a 12-month price target of $380.00, after the UAW made historic gains during labor contract negotiations with...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=22409325\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares"},"source_url":"https://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php?id=22409325","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2383029682","content_text":"Morgan Stanley reiterated Tesla as one of their “Top Picks” with an Overweight rating, and a 12-month price target of $380.00, after the UAW made historic gains during labor contract negotiations with Detroit’s “Big Three” automakers.Shares of TSLA are up 6.12% on Tuesday.Gains which saw to the revival of Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA) in the industry.COLA was seen as a ‘no fly zone’ for car companies heading into UAW negotiations. The indefinite nature of COLA introduces unpredictability into long-term labor inflation forecasts.According to Ford (NYSE:F), the UAW contract contributes an additional $850 to $900 per unit to the car's cost, gradually eating into around 200bps of margin before any measures are taken to address it.Are UAW contracts a positive for China?Analysts at Morgan Stanley also see the new labor contracts as a potential positive for China, Mexico, Thailand, Vietnam and other countries where global manufacturers benefit from broader labor cost differentials.With the fresh contract in place, investors may see OEMs looking to work with their Chinese EV partners as much as possible.As EV adoption slows, analysts at Morgan Stanley suggest that it is unlikely the strategies implemented for EVs in the last 3yrs fully considered the speed of rising labor costs in the US market. Once the UAW contracts are officially approved, it's anticipated that automobile companies will rethink their EV plans.A revision may involve spending at a slower rate, placing more emphasis on partnerships, and possibly declaring losses on assets or facing reduced asset values. Although such announcements could cause fluctuations in headlines, they signify a shift towards more careful spending.Analysts at Morgan Stanley will be on the lookout for automakers highlighting the flexibility of their EV spending budgets during the 4Q reporting period.Will Tesla be next?The UAW leadership plans to organize more manufacturers, prompting some foreign auto companies to proactively increase wages.Estimates suggest that Tesla has approximately 45,000 to 50,000 factory workers across locations like Fremont, Austin, and Reno, which are in higher cost-of-living areas compared to the average UAW worker. This collectively amounts to a US labor cost ranging between $4 billion and $5 billion for Tesla.Can Tesla’s Optimus help?Long before the widespread use of walking robots, analysts at Morgan Stanley expect substantial changes in vehicle design that will lead to less labor.To produce inexpensive cars in the US competitively on a global scale, new methods and technologies that are not yet available commercially will likely be necessary.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":465,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3560811483744101","authorId":"3560811483744101","name":"Jas2davir","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e62174ebad7965b2b27ef308304519ed","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3560811483744101","authorIdStr":"3560811483744101"},"content":"Impossible to say for all we know HSBC analyst have a short posistion agaisnt tsla and MS’s analyst have a bull posistion on tsla….","text":"Impossible to say for all we know HSBC analyst have a short posistion agaisnt tsla and MS’s analyst have a bull posistion on tsla….","html":"Impossible to say for all we know HSBC analyst have a short posistion agaisnt tsla and MS’s analyst have a bull posistion on tsla…."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}