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01-24 22:36

Don't be a sour grape. And don't stir shit here...FO

Could Tesla’s (TSLA) AI Innovations Propel Its Stock to $500?

01-21

So many sour grapes around...trying hard to talk down Tesla

Tesla Q4 Preview: Can the EV King Be Trusted?

01-21

We know the grapes very sour

Forget Tesla and Nvidia Stocks. Check Out These Unloved AI Bargains

01-17

Another sour grape and Tesla hater

Microsoft, Tesla Are Worst Mag 7 Stocks. These Are the Ones to Buy, Say Analysts. -- Barrons.com

01-17

Sour grape article

Tesla Investors Want to Talk About 'Anything but Cars' -- Barrons.com

01-17

Of course trump will not share with loser like u! So u can just FO

Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com

01-17

FO

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01-17

Trump does not like to share limelight...it depends on who he share with. No one will mind sharing with world richest man. Of coyrse he will kind sharing with YOU! U are such a sour grape.....red eye...

Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com

01-16

Another stupid sour grape

Is Tesla Stock a Buy Before Jan. 20?

01-16

Another sour grape......FO

Three Reasons Why Wells Fargo Predicts 70% Plunge on Tesla's Stock

01-14

Another sour grape

Elon Musk misrepresents data that shows Tesla is still years away from unsupervised self-driving

01-12

Another F sour grape

Bernstein Reaffirms Their Sell Rating on Tesla (TSLA)

01-10

Don't upgrade u will say no good....upgrade u also say no good. Pls make up yr F mind!

Tesla's Model Y Gets an Update in China. What It Means for the Stock. -- Barrons.com

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I have that on good authority”.\n\nContrary to Musk’s claims, Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, had his own statements to make on X. Altman posted that Musk’s claims are wrong and that he has been upset because this initiative could compete with his Elon Musk’s own AI endeavors.\n\n“Wrong, as you surely know. Want to come visit the first site already under way? This is great for the country. I realize what is great for the country isn’t always what’s optimal for your companies, but in your new role I hope you’ll mostly put US first”.\n— Sam Altman\n\nMusk is leading Trump’s government efficiency efforts and will also be advising him on spending. The billionaire, ever since leaving OpenAI’s board in 2018, has been engaged in a feud with Altman. Sources close to Stargate also reveal that they are not sure how Musk has arrived at the figure. According to them, the company is well-positioned to deploy $100 billion.\n\n\n“I think this will be the most important project of this era. We wouldn’t be able to do this without you, Mr. President”.\n-Sam Altman.\n\n\nIn light of this, Bloomberg revealed that Trump has, on several occasions, promoted private-sector investment promises that never went on to materialize. One of these failed promises has been the failed Foxconn factory project which Trump deemed as the “Eighth Wonder of the World”. No wonder the Stargate announcement has sparked skepticism regarding the project’s completion.\nFor this article, we selected AI stocks by going through news articles, stock analysis, and press releases. These stocks are also popular among hedge funds.\nWhy are we interested in the stocks that hedge funds pile into? The reason is simple: our research has shown that we can outperform the market by imitating the top stock picks of the best hedge funds. Our quarterly newsletter’s strategy selects 14 small-cap and large-cap stocks every quarter and has returned 275% since May 2014, beating its benchmark by 150 percentage points (see more details here).\n Copyright: \nwolandmaster / 123RF Stock Photo\nTesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA)\nNumber of Hedge Fund Holders: 99\nTesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) is an automotive and clean energy company that leverages advanced artificial intelligence in its autonomous driving technology and robotics initiatives. One of the biggest analyst calls for Tuesday, January 21st, was for Tesla Inc. Piper Sandler reiterated an “Overweight” rating on Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) and raised the firm’s price target to $500 from $315. According to the firm, investors have begun appreciating Tesla’s potential in real-world artificial intelligence. The analyst told investors in the research note that as a result of this, portfolio managers are entertaining the possibility of the stock going up. Moreover, once the company is done with its current car launch plans, it will redirect its focus toward its full-driving software (FSD). The firm hasn’t estimated the impact of other ambiguous AI endeavors but is optimistic that new-age opportunities like Optimus robots and neural-net-training-as-a-service will shape the company’s thesis. According to the firm, Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) first half of 2025 “may be choppy,” but it remains its top “buy-and-hold idea”.\n\n“Regarding our views on the stock, TSLA is still our #1 buy-and-hold idea, and accordingly, we’re boosting our price target to $500 (up from $315)”.\n\nOverall, TSLA ranks 2nd on our list of AI stocks investors are watching closely. While we acknowledge the potential of TSLA as an investment, our conviction lies in the belief that some AI stocks hold greater promise for delivering higher returns and doing so within a shorter time frame. If you are looking for an AI stock that is more promising than TSLA but that trades at less than 5 times its earnings, check out our report about the cheapest AI stock.\nREAD NEXT: 20 Best AI Stocks To Buy Now and Complete List of 59 AI Companies Under $2 Billion in Market Cap\nDisclosure: None. 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Net income rose to about $2.17 billion, or 62 cents a share, from $1.85 billion, or 53 cents a share, a year ago.</p><h2 id=\"id_2617719276\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Q4 Results Outlook</h2><h3 id=\"id_2820609817\">Tesla Reports First-Ever Drop in Annual Deliveries</h3><p>Tesla has posted its fourth-quarter vehicle production and deliveries report. Here are the key numbers:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total deliveries Q4 2024: 495,570</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total production Q4 2024: 459,445</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual deliveries 2024: 1,789,226</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual production 2024: 1,773,443</p></li></ul><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Results for the quarter represented the first annual drop in delivery numbers for Tesla, which reported 1.81 million deliveries in 2023. It reported 484,507 deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2023.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f090297df6420f10d4b244f59952a048\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"622\"/></p><h3 id=\"id_633700293\">Tesla&#39;s Megapack Gains a Sweetener as Car Sales Slow</h3><p>Tesla&#39;s 4Q earnings appear poised to top consensus, fueled by record-breaking deployments in its energy segment. The ramp-up of its Megapack battery plant in Shanghai -- almost doubling storage deployment to 60 gigawatt-hours -- will likely boost future earnings, with an estimated 30% gross margin outperforming the auto segment. In 1H, Tesla plans to launch an updated Model Y and introduce a new, more affordable model, expanding market reach. The latter&#39;s earnings impact will be more pronounced by late 2025.</p><p>Total auto 4Q gross margin could drop as much as 100 bps from 3Q&#39;s 20.1%, but may still be better than 1H24. A production decline in the quarter may suggest preparation for a Model Y refresh.</p><h3 id=\"id_3433050886\">Trump&#39;s Policies, Autonomous Vehicle Timelines and 2025 Guidance</h3><p>Tesla<strong> </strong>stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump&#39;s election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, including possibly dialing back the Inflation Reduction Act and the potential easing of regulations for autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Analysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.</p><p>Investors also will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.</p><p>Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he&#39;s said similar &#34;this year&#34; or &#34;next year&#34; statements for about a decade.</p><p>In addition, Tesla&#39;s guidance for 2025 is an important factor affecting the stock price.</p><h2 id=\"id_30813270\">Analyst&#39;s opinions</h2><h4 id=\"id_512543951\">Bulls</h4><p><strong>Morgan Stanley</strong> believes Tesla shares have significant upside as the company rolls out a fleet of autonomous cars, or robotaxis, that run on artificial intelligence.</p><p>Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley&#39;s high-profile auto analyst and a TSLA bull,<strong> </strong>increased his Tesla stock price target to 430 from 400, keeping an overweight rating on the shares, which remain a &#34;top pick&#34; for the firm. The firm also sees a bull case in which Tesla’s stock could ultimately double to $800 per share.</p><p><strong>Wedbush Securities</strong> hiked its base case price target on Tesla to $550 from $515 on its view that the golden age of autonomous, FSD, and Optimus has arrived. The firm has growing confidence in the demand delivery story for 2025 along with a fast tracking of the autonomous future under the Trump Administration. The bull case price target on Tesla was pushed up to $650.</p><p>Tesla continues to be <strong>Piper Sandler</strong>&#39;s &#34;#1 buy-and-hold idea,&#34; as the firm raised its price target for the stock from $315 to $500. The firm’s analysts believe investors are beginning to appreciate Tesla&#39;s potential in &#34;real-world A.I.,&#34; which is driving portfolio managers to consider upside scenarios more seriously.</p><h4 id=\"id_1883715770\">Bears</h4><p><strong>Wells Fargo</strong> reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock&#39;s rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 this year.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Wells Fargo&#39;s analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla&#39;s struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players. The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla&#39;s pricing power and U.S. market demand.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Also, Tesla&#39;s futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.</p><p><strong>Bank of America</strong> downgraded Tesla from Buy to Neutral. The investment company expressed worries about Tesla&#39;s high valuation and possible difficulties carrying out its bold initiatives.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With much of Tesla&#39;s growth potentialincluding developments in autonomous driving, energy storage, and roboticsincluding already reflected in the stock&#39;s current valuation. Bank of America analysts set a price target of $490. 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Net income rose to about $2.17 billion, or 62 cents a share, from $1.85 billion, or 53 cents a share, a year ago.</p><h2 id=\"id_2617719276\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Q4 Results Outlook</h2><h3 id=\"id_2820609817\">Tesla Reports First-Ever Drop in Annual Deliveries</h3><p>Tesla has posted its fourth-quarter vehicle production and deliveries report. Here are the key numbers:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total deliveries Q4 2024: 495,570</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total production Q4 2024: 459,445</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual deliveries 2024: 1,789,226</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual production 2024: 1,773,443</p></li></ul><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Results for the quarter represented the first annual drop in delivery numbers for Tesla, which reported 1.81 million deliveries in 2023. It reported 484,507 deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2023.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f090297df6420f10d4b244f59952a048\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"622\"/></p><h3 id=\"id_633700293\">Tesla&#39;s Megapack Gains a Sweetener as Car Sales Slow</h3><p>Tesla&#39;s 4Q earnings appear poised to top consensus, fueled by record-breaking deployments in its energy segment. The ramp-up of its Megapack battery plant in Shanghai -- almost doubling storage deployment to 60 gigawatt-hours -- will likely boost future earnings, with an estimated 30% gross margin outperforming the auto segment. In 1H, Tesla plans to launch an updated Model Y and introduce a new, more affordable model, expanding market reach. The latter&#39;s earnings impact will be more pronounced by late 2025.</p><p>Total auto 4Q gross margin could drop as much as 100 bps from 3Q&#39;s 20.1%, but may still be better than 1H24. A production decline in the quarter may suggest preparation for a Model Y refresh.</p><h3 id=\"id_3433050886\">Trump&#39;s Policies, Autonomous Vehicle Timelines and 2025 Guidance</h3><p>Tesla<strong> </strong>stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump&#39;s election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, including possibly dialing back the Inflation Reduction Act and the potential easing of regulations for autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Analysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.</p><p>Investors also will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.</p><p>Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he&#39;s said similar &#34;this year&#34; or &#34;next year&#34; statements for about a decade.</p><p>In addition, Tesla&#39;s guidance for 2025 is an important factor affecting the stock price.</p><h2 id=\"id_30813270\">Analyst&#39;s opinions</h2><h4 id=\"id_512543951\">Bulls</h4><p><strong>Morgan Stanley</strong> believes Tesla shares have significant upside as the company rolls out a fleet of autonomous cars, or robotaxis, that run on artificial intelligence.</p><p>Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley&#39;s high-profile auto analyst and a TSLA bull,<strong> </strong>increased his Tesla stock price target to 430 from 400, keeping an overweight rating on the shares, which remain a &#34;top pick&#34; for the firm. The firm also sees a bull case in which Tesla’s stock could ultimately double to $800 per share.</p><p><strong>Wedbush Securities</strong> hiked its base case price target on Tesla to $550 from $515 on its view that the golden age of autonomous, FSD, and Optimus has arrived. The firm has growing confidence in the demand delivery story for 2025 along with a fast tracking of the autonomous future under the Trump Administration. The bull case price target on Tesla was pushed up to $650.</p><p>Tesla continues to be <strong>Piper Sandler</strong>&#39;s &#34;#1 buy-and-hold idea,&#34; as the firm raised its price target for the stock from $315 to $500. The firm’s analysts believe investors are beginning to appreciate Tesla&#39;s potential in &#34;real-world A.I.,&#34; which is driving portfolio managers to consider upside scenarios more seriously.</p><h4 id=\"id_1883715770\">Bears</h4><p><strong>Wells Fargo</strong> reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock&#39;s rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 this year.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Wells Fargo&#39;s analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla&#39;s struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players. The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla&#39;s pricing power and U.S. market demand.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Also, Tesla&#39;s futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.</p><p><strong>Bank of America</strong> downgraded Tesla from Buy to Neutral. The investment company expressed worries about Tesla&#39;s high valuation and possible difficulties carrying out its bold initiatives.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With much of Tesla&#39;s growth potentialincluding developments in autonomous driving, energy storage, and roboticsincluding already reflected in the stock&#39;s current valuation. Bank of America analysts set a price target of $490. The company also underlined regulatory uncertainty as a further threat to its future.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1189909655","content_text":"Tesla's Q4 revenue is expected to be $27.195 billion, adjusted net income is $2.66 billion, and adjusted EPS is $0.748, according to Bloomberg's consistent expectations.Tesla will post its financial results for the fourth quarter of 2024 after market close on Wednesday, January 29, 2025.Tesla's Q4 revenue is expected to be $27.195 billion, adjusted net income is $2.66 billion, and adjusted EPS is $0.748, according to Bloomberg's consistent expectations.Previous Quarter ReviewTesla reported third-quarter earnings that topped analysts’ estimates even as revenue came in just shy of expectations.Here’s what the company reported compared with what Wall Street was expecting, based on a survey of analysts by LSEG:Earnings per share: 72 cents, adjusted vs. 58 cents expectedRevenue: $25.18 billion vs. $25.37 billion expectedRevenue increased 8% in the quarter from $23.35 billion a year earlier. Net income rose to about $2.17 billion, or 62 cents a share, from $1.85 billion, or 53 cents a share, a year ago.Q4 Results OutlookTesla Reports First-Ever Drop in Annual DeliveriesTesla has posted its fourth-quarter vehicle production and deliveries report. Here are the key numbers:Total deliveries Q4 2024: 495,570Total production Q4 2024: 459,445Total annual deliveries 2024: 1,789,226Total annual production 2024: 1,773,443Results for the quarter represented the first annual drop in delivery numbers for Tesla, which reported 1.81 million deliveries in 2023. It reported 484,507 deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2023.Tesla's Megapack Gains a Sweetener as Car Sales SlowTesla's 4Q earnings appear poised to top consensus, fueled by record-breaking deployments in its energy segment. The ramp-up of its Megapack battery plant in Shanghai -- almost doubling storage deployment to 60 gigawatt-hours -- will likely boost future earnings, with an estimated 30% gross margin outperforming the auto segment. In 1H, Tesla plans to launch an updated Model Y and introduce a new, more affordable model, expanding market reach. The latter's earnings impact will be more pronounced by late 2025.Total auto 4Q gross margin could drop as much as 100 bps from 3Q's 20.1%, but may still be better than 1H24. A production decline in the quarter may suggest preparation for a Model Y refresh.Trump's Policies, Autonomous Vehicle Timelines and 2025 GuidanceTesla stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump's election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, including possibly dialing back the Inflation Reduction Act and the potential easing of regulations for autonomous vehicles.Analysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.Investors also will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he's said similar \"this year\" or \"next year\" statements for about a decade.In addition, Tesla's guidance for 2025 is an important factor affecting the stock price.Analyst's opinionsBullsMorgan Stanley believes Tesla shares have significant upside as the company rolls out a fleet of autonomous cars, or robotaxis, that run on artificial intelligence.Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley's high-profile auto analyst and a TSLA bull, increased his Tesla stock price target to 430 from 400, keeping an overweight rating on the shares, which remain a \"top pick\" for the firm. The firm also sees a bull case in which Tesla’s stock could ultimately double to $800 per share.Wedbush Securities hiked its base case price target on Tesla to $550 from $515 on its view that the golden age of autonomous, FSD, and Optimus has arrived. The firm has growing confidence in the demand delivery story for 2025 along with a fast tracking of the autonomous future under the Trump Administration. The bull case price target on Tesla was pushed up to $650.Tesla continues to be Piper Sandler's \"#1 buy-and-hold idea,\" as the firm raised its price target for the stock from $315 to $500. The firm’s analysts believe investors are beginning to appreciate Tesla's potential in \"real-world A.I.,\" which is driving portfolio managers to consider upside scenarios more seriously.BearsWells Fargo reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock's rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 this year.Wells Fargo's analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla's struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players. The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla's pricing power and U.S. market demand.Also, Tesla's futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.Bank of America downgraded Tesla from Buy to Neutral. The investment company expressed worries about Tesla's high valuation and possible difficulties carrying out its bold initiatives.With much of Tesla's growth potentialincluding developments in autonomous driving, energy storage, and roboticsincluding already reflected in the stock's current valuation. Bank of America analysts set a price target of $490. 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Check Out These Unloved AI Bargains","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2505287675","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Looking to invest in artificial intelligence stocks this year and worried you've missed the boat?Don't worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like Tesla and Nvidia is the solution.That's according to Morningstar's chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies' capital expenditure levels can't carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI's ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.\"We're not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,\" Sekera told Barron's. \"It will still increase, but we won't see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.\". This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Looking to invest in artificial intelligence stocks this year and worried you&#39;ve missed the boat? Don&#39;t worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Motors</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">NVIDIA</a>  is the solution.</p><p>That&#39;s according to Morningstar&#39;s chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.</p><p>His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies&#39; capital expenditure levels can&#39;t carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI&#39;s ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.</p><p>&#34;We&#39;re not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,&#34; Sekera told Barron&#39;s. &#34;It will still increase, but we won&#39;t see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.&#34;</p><p>That means Morningstar is more bearish than most on Nvidia, which has made shattering Wall Street&#39;s expectations into something of a quarterly tradition over the past two years. The research firm thinks the stock is now trading close to its fair value after back-to-back years of triple-digit gains.</p><p>Tesla looks even more overvalued by Morningstar&#39;s value investing-focused metrics -- strategists think that at $426.50, the stock is trading at more than double its fair value.</p><p>The AI stocks Sekera is bullish on range from the well-established AI plays to a couple of unloved and under-the-radar names. Software developers  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ORCL\">Oracle</a>  and Google owner  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">Alphabet</a>  are all trading at a discount to their fair value, by Morningstar&#39;s metrics -- but those aren&#39;t exactly unheard-of picks to benefit from the AI surge.</p><p>Chip maker  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">Advanced Micro Devices</a>  has dropped 30% over the past year, but that selloff has made it another name that looks undervalued, according to Morningstar. Sekera told Barron&#39;s that the stock &#34;now trades too much to the downside,&#34; adding that he thinks for the long-term AMD will be &#34;the number two player behind Nvidia&#34; in providing graphics processing units and AI hardware.</p><p>A less well-known stock that Sekera&#39;s team likes is  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CTSH\">Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp</a> , an S&amp;P 500-listed business consultancy that Morningstar thinks trades at an 18% discount to its fair value. Sekera said Cognizant was one of a number of companies set to benefit from using AI to improve productivity and efficiency in a bid to boost their margins.</p><p>&#34;We aren&#39;t bearish on AI -- we think a lot of stocks now have AI fully priced in, but there are still select pockets of undervaluation in the space,&#34; he told Barron&#39;s. It&#39;s a reminder that there are still bargains to be found, even in such a red-hot space.</p><p></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Forget Tesla and Nvidia Stocks. 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Check Out These Unloved AI Bargains\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-21 11:03</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Looking to invest in artificial intelligence stocks this year and worried you&#39;ve missed the boat? Don&#39;t worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Motors</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">NVIDIA</a>  is the solution.</p><p>That&#39;s according to Morningstar&#39;s chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.</p><p>His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies&#39; capital expenditure levels can&#39;t carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI&#39;s ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.</p><p>&#34;We&#39;re not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,&#34; Sekera told Barron&#39;s. &#34;It will still increase, but we won&#39;t see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.&#34;</p><p>That means Morningstar is more bearish than most on Nvidia, which has made shattering Wall Street&#39;s expectations into something of a quarterly tradition over the past two years. The research firm thinks the stock is now trading close to its fair value after back-to-back years of triple-digit gains.</p><p>Tesla looks even more overvalued by Morningstar&#39;s value investing-focused metrics -- strategists think that at $426.50, the stock is trading at more than double its fair value.</p><p>The AI stocks Sekera is bullish on range from the well-established AI plays to a couple of unloved and under-the-radar names. Software developers  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ORCL\">Oracle</a>  and Google owner  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">Alphabet</a>  are all trading at a discount to their fair value, by Morningstar&#39;s metrics -- but those aren&#39;t exactly unheard-of picks to benefit from the AI surge.</p><p>Chip maker  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">Advanced Micro Devices</a>  has dropped 30% over the past year, but that selloff has made it another name that looks undervalued, according to Morningstar. Sekera told Barron&#39;s that the stock &#34;now trades too much to the downside,&#34; adding that he thinks for the long-term AMD will be &#34;the number two player behind Nvidia&#34; in providing graphics processing units and AI hardware.</p><p>A less well-known stock that Sekera&#39;s team likes is  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CTSH\">Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp</a> , an S&amp;P 500-listed business consultancy that Morningstar thinks trades at an 18% discount to its fair value. Sekera said Cognizant was one of a number of companies set to benefit from using AI to improve productivity and efficiency in a bid to boost their margins.</p><p>&#34;We aren&#39;t bearish on AI -- we think a lot of stocks now have AI fully priced in, but there are still select pockets of undervaluation in the space,&#34; he told Barron&#39;s. It&#39;s a reminder that there are still bargains to be found, even in such a red-hot space.</p><p></p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU2491050071.SGD":"WELLINGTON SUSTAINABLE OUTCOMES \"A\" (SGDHDG) ACC","LU1923622614.USD":"Natixis Thematics Meta R/A USD","CTSH":"高知特","BK4587":"ChatGPT概念","LU2242650005.HKD":"FIDELITY FUNDS GLOBAL MULTI ASSET DYNAMIC \"A\" (HKD) ACC","LU1066051811.HKD":"HSBC GIF GLOBAL EQUITY VOLATILITY FOCUSED \"AM2\" (HKD) INC","SG9999001077.SGD":"United International Growth Fund SGD","LU1951198990.SGD":"Natixis Thematics AI & Robotics Fund H-R/A SGD-H","LU2360106780.USD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A4\" (USD) INC","LU1868837300.USD":"CT (LUX) I AMERICAN FUND \"9\" (USD) ACC","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4538":"云计算","LU0964807845.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME & GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","IE00BJJMRY28.SGD":"Janus Henderson Balanced A Inc SGD","MSFT":"微软","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU2065170008.USD":"M&G (LUX) GLOBAL MAXIMA \"A\" (USD) INC","LU2097344357.USD":"SCHRODER ISF SUSTAINABLE MULTI-ASSET INCOME \"A\" (USDHDG) ACC","LU0128525689.USD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL BALANCED \"A\"(USD) ACC","LU1043141123.HKD":"NINETY ONE GSF GLOBAL FRANCHISE \"A\" (HKD) INC 2","GOOGL":"谷歌A","NVDA":"英伟达","LU2264538146.SGD":"Fullerton Lux Funds - Global Absolute Alpha A Acc SGD","IE00BQXX3D17.EUR":"GUINNESS GLOBAL INNOVATORS \"C\" (EUR) ACC","LU0985320562.USD":"NORDEA 1 GLOBAL STARS EQUITY \"BP\" (USD) ACC","AMD":"美国超微公司","LU1880398554.USD":"AMUNDI FUNDS GLOBAL EQUITY \"A2\" (USD) INC","ORCL":"甲骨文","HK0000320223.HKD":"TAIKANG KAITAI CHINA NEW OPPORTUNITIES FUND \"A\" (HKD) ACC","LU0256863811.USD":"ALLIANZ US EQUITY \"A\" INC","LU1496350171.SGD":"FRANKLIN DIVERSIFIED BALANCED \"A\" (SGDHDG) ACC","IE00BHPRN162.USD":"BNY MELLON BLOCKCHAIN INNOVATION \"B\" (USD) ACC","BK4567":"ESG概念","LU0557290698.USD":"施罗德环球可持续增长基金"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2505287675","content_text":"Looking to invest in artificial intelligence stocks this year and worried you've missed the boat? Don't worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like  Tesla Motors  and  NVIDIA  is the solution.That's according to Morningstar's chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies' capital expenditure levels can't carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI's ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.\"We're not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,\" Sekera told Barron's. \"It will still increase, but we won't see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.\"That means Morningstar is more bearish than most on Nvidia, which has made shattering Wall Street's expectations into something of a quarterly tradition over the past two years. The research firm thinks the stock is now trading close to its fair value after back-to-back years of triple-digit gains.Tesla looks even more overvalued by Morningstar's value investing-focused metrics -- strategists think that at $426.50, the stock is trading at more than double its fair value.The AI stocks Sekera is bullish on range from the well-established AI plays to a couple of unloved and under-the-radar names. Software developers  Microsoft  and  Oracle  and Google owner  Alphabet  are all trading at a discount to their fair value, by Morningstar's metrics -- but those aren't exactly unheard-of picks to benefit from the AI surge.Chip maker  Advanced Micro Devices  has dropped 30% over the past year, but that selloff has made it another name that looks undervalued, according to Morningstar. Sekera told Barron's that the stock \"now trades too much to the downside,\" adding that he thinks for the long-term AMD will be \"the number two player behind Nvidia\" in providing graphics processing units and AI hardware.A less well-known stock that Sekera's team likes is  Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp , an S&P 500-listed business consultancy that Morningstar thinks trades at an 18% discount to its fair value. Sekera said Cognizant was one of a number of companies set to benefit from using AI to improve productivity and efficiency in a bid to boost their margins.\"We aren't bearish on AI -- we think a lot of stocks now have AI fully priced in, but there are still select pockets of undervaluation in the space,\" he told Barron's. 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They ranked the seven companies based on growth, sell-side sentiment, price momentum, valuation, yield, and more. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The best-rated stock according to this model is chip maker Nvidia, which has led returns among the Mag 7 since 2020. Google-parent Alphabet comes in second, followed by Facebook-parent Meta, and iPhone maker Apple. \n</p>\n<p>\n     While Nvidia ranks well across indicators, Alphabet stands out as the best anti-momentum value play, Peramunetilleke said. Tesla is the most volatile stock with extreme exposure to several factors. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the bottom is Microsoft, ranking particularly low on Research &amp; Development versus capital expenditure, price momentum, and growth and revisions. 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Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 07:30 ET (12:30 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Microsoft, Tesla Are Worst Mag 7 Stocks. 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These Are the Ones to Buy, Say Analysts. -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 20:30</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Elsa Ohlen \n</p>\n<p>\n  Investors looking to buy or sell shares of the Magnificent Seven may want to consider selling Microsoft and buying Nvidia. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The so-called Magnificent Seven is the group of megacap stocks that has driven much of the stock market's gains over the past few years. It includes Nvidia, Meta, Amazon, Alphabet, Microsoft, Apple, and Tesla. \n</p>\n<p>\n     However, these $1 trillion+ companies have not all fared equally well, Jefferies analysts led by Desh Peramunetilleke pointed out in research released Friday. They ranked the seven companies based on growth, sell-side sentiment, price momentum, valuation, yield, and more. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The best-rated stock according to this model is chip maker Nvidia, which has led returns among the Mag 7 since 2020. Google-parent Alphabet comes in second, followed by Facebook-parent Meta, and iPhone maker Apple. \n</p>\n<p>\n     While Nvidia ranks well across indicators, Alphabet stands out as the best anti-momentum value play, Peramunetilleke said. Tesla is the most volatile stock with extreme exposure to several factors. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the bottom is Microsoft, ranking particularly low on Research &amp; Development versus capital expenditure, price momentum, and growth and revisions. Tesla and Amazon.com are rated as number six and five, respectively. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Since 2020, Mag 7 stocks are up by an average 640% versus about 100% for the S&amp;P 500 and now have a combined weight of 34% of the benchmark index, Peramunetilleke said. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Elsa Ohlen at elsa.ohlen@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 07:30 ET (12:30 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"2NVD.UK":"2X NVIDIA ETP","NVDA":"英伟达","MACW.SI":"APPLE 3xLongSG261006","META":"Meta Platforms, Inc.","LU2250418816.HKD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (HKD) ACC","GOOG":"谷歌","TSYW.SI":"TESLA 3xLongSG261006","LU2764263203.CNY":"BGF GLOBAL UNCONSTRAINED EQUITY \"A2\" (CNYHDG) ACC","LU1868837300.USD":"CT (LUX) I AMERICAN FUND \"9\" (USD) ACC","NVDS.UK":"LS -1X NVIDIA","LU1712237335.SGD":"Natixis Mirova Global Sustainable Equity H-R-NPF/A SGD","LU2023250504.SGD":"Allianz Thematica Cl AMg DIS H2-SGD","NVD":"GraniteShares 2x Short NVDA Daily ETF","LU0072461881.USD":"BGF US BASIC VALUE \"A2\" ACC","USJW.SI":"ALPHAB 3xLongSG261006","LU0130518102.USD":"HARRIS ASSOCIATES GLOBAL EQUITY \"R\" INC","LU2092937148.SGD":"Blackrock ESG Multi-Asset A8 SGD-H","IE00BKPKM429.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","MSFT":"微软","NVDD":"Direxion Daily NVDA Bear 1X Shares","AAPL":"苹果","SNVD.UK":"LS -1X NVIDIA","LU1188199696.SGD":"Schroder ISF Global Multi-Asset Income A Dis SGD","3NVD.UK":"LS 3X NVIDIA","LU2077746001.SGD":"Blackrock ESG Multi-Asset A2 SGD-H","LU0070302665.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2236285917.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL INCOME \"AMG\" (USD) INC","LU0683600562.USD":"AB SELECT US EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","NVDY":"YIELDMAX NVDA OPTION INCOME STRATEGY ETF","NVD2.UK":"2X NVIDIA ETP","NVD3.UK":"LS 3X NVIDIA","NVDS":"Tradr 1.5X Short NVDA Daily ETF","LU2404859667.USD":"FUNDSMITH EQUITY FUND \"R\" (USD) ACC","NVIW.SI":"NVDA 3xLongSG261006","XMAG":"Defiance Large Cap ex-Mag 7 ETF","GOOGL":"谷歌A","NVDU":"Direxion Daily NVDA Bull 2X Shares","LU1267930490.SGD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL EQUITY INCOME \"AS\" (SGD) INC A","LU0985489474.SGD":"First Eagle Amundi International AHS-C SGD-H","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0095938881.EUR":"JPMorgan Investment Funds - Global Macro Opportunities A (acc) EUR","LU2111349929.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL SUSTAINABILITY \"AM\" (HKD) INC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU1206713676.USD":"Aviva Investors - Multi-Strategy Target Return Ah USD","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","NVDX":"T-REX 2X LONG NVIDIA DAILY TARGET ETF","LU0345770993.USD":"NINETY ONE GSF GLOBAL STRATEGIC EQUITY \"A\" (USD) INC","LU2506951958.HKD":"BNP PARIBAS SUSTAINABLE GLOBAL LOW VOL EQUITY \"CRH\" (HKDHDG) INC","LU1496350502.SGD":"FRANKLIN DIVERSIFIED DYNAMIC \"A\" (SGDHDG) ACC"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2504525711","content_text":"By Elsa Ohlen \n\n\n  Investors looking to buy or sell shares of the Magnificent Seven may want to consider selling Microsoft and buying Nvidia. \n\n\n     The so-called Magnificent Seven is the group of megacap stocks that has driven much of the stock market's gains over the past few years. It includes Nvidia, Meta, Amazon, Alphabet, Microsoft, Apple, and Tesla. \n\n\n     However, these $1 trillion+ companies have not all fared equally well, Jefferies analysts led by Desh Peramunetilleke pointed out in research released Friday. They ranked the seven companies based on growth, sell-side sentiment, price momentum, valuation, yield, and more. \n\n\n     The best-rated stock according to this model is chip maker Nvidia, which has led returns among the Mag 7 since 2020. Google-parent Alphabet comes in second, followed by Facebook-parent Meta, and iPhone maker Apple. \n\n\n     While Nvidia ranks well across indicators, Alphabet stands out as the best anti-momentum value play, Peramunetilleke said. Tesla is the most volatile stock with extreme exposure to several factors. \n\n\n     At the bottom is Microsoft, ranking particularly low on Research & Development versus capital expenditure, price momentum, and growth and revisions. Tesla and Amazon.com are rated as number six and five, respectively. \n\n\n     Since 2020, Mag 7 stocks are up by an average 640% versus about 100% for the S&P 500 and now have a combined weight of 34% of the benchmark index, Peramunetilleke said. \n\n\n     Write to Elsa Ohlen at elsa.ohlen@barrons.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. 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Tesla posted third-quarter automotive gross profit margin of about 17%, excluding any regulatory credit sales, in the third quarter. And CEO Elon Musk is targeting 20% to 30% volume growth, helped partly by a new lower-priced model due early this year.In short, artificial intelligence, said Jonas. Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot.Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. 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Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla plans to launch a self-driving robotaxi service by the end of 2025. Musk also has suggested that robot sales could start this year. Having both happening are what can drive Tesla stock higher. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares already have had an impressive AI-fueled run. Coming into Friday, Tesla stock has risen more than 70% since the company's Oct. 10 Robotaxi event and have gained more than 60% since the Nov. 5 presidential election. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla's Robotaxi Day outlined the company's plans for a robotaxi service. What's more, investors expect the incoming Donald Trump administration to accelerate federal rule-making to encourage autonomous vehicle deployment. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares were up 0.9% at $417.40 in premarket trading, while S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures each rose about 0.4%. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. For Jonas, \"anything but cars\" makes some sense. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He values Tesla's self-driving-related technologies, including robotaxis, at $258 a share, Tesla's battery storage business at $66 a share, and expects Tesla to supply technology to other automakers eventually. That's worth $17 a share. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He doesn't have a value for humanoid robots. Jonas is waiting to see how the technology, supply chain, and costs develop. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas is at the higher end of analyst price targets. The average price target for Tesla shares is about $317, according to FactSet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     That's below where shares have been trading, but still values Tesla at $1 trillion, multiples of the combined value of many traditional auto makers. For most of Wall Street, it seems, Tesla is about more than cars. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Al Root at  allen.root@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 06:57 ET (11:57 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Investors Want to Talk About 'Anything but Cars' -- Barrons.com</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Investors Want to Talk About 'Anything but Cars' -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 19:57</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  Al Root \n</p>\n<p>\n  Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas hosted a bull/bear lunch in New York recently to discuss Tesla. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Investors wanted to talk about \"anything but cars.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     \"After establishing that consensus is expecting a 15%-type 4Q gross auto margin ... and 10% to 15% volume growth in 2025, there was extremely little discussion about the Tesla core auto business,\" wrote Jonas in a report Thursday. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Both things look doable. Tesla posted third-quarter automotive gross profit margin of about 17%, excluding any regulatory credit sales, in the third quarter. And CEO Elon Musk is targeting 20% to 30% volume growth, helped partly by a new lower-priced model due early this year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If cars don't matter for Tesla stock, then what does? In short, artificial intelligence, said Jonas. Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla plans to launch a self-driving robotaxi service by the end of 2025. Musk also has suggested that robot sales could start this year. Having both happening are what can drive Tesla stock higher. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares already have had an impressive AI-fueled run. Coming into Friday, Tesla stock has risen more than 70% since the company's Oct. 10 Robotaxi event and have gained more than 60% since the Nov. 5 presidential election. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla's Robotaxi Day outlined the company's plans for a robotaxi service. What's more, investors expect the incoming Donald Trump administration to accelerate federal rule-making to encourage autonomous vehicle deployment. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares were up 0.9% at $417.40 in premarket trading, while S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures each rose about 0.4%. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. For Jonas, \"anything but cars\" makes some sense. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He values Tesla's self-driving-related technologies, including robotaxis, at $258 a share, Tesla's battery storage business at $66 a share, and expects Tesla to supply technology to other automakers eventually. That's worth $17 a share. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He doesn't have a value for humanoid robots. Jonas is waiting to see how the technology, supply chain, and costs develop. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas is at the higher end of analyst price targets. The average price target for Tesla shares is about $317, according to FactSet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     That's below where shares have been trading, but still values Tesla at $1 trillion, multiples of the combined value of many traditional auto makers. For most of Wall Street, it seems, Tesla is about more than cars. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Al Root at  allen.root@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 06:57 ET (11:57 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2504159750","content_text":"Al Root \n\n\n  Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas hosted a bull/bear lunch in New York recently to discuss Tesla. \n\n\n     Investors wanted to talk about \"anything but cars.\" \n\n\n     \"After establishing that consensus is expecting a 15%-type 4Q gross auto margin ... and 10% to 15% volume growth in 2025, there was extremely little discussion about the Tesla core auto business,\" wrote Jonas in a report Thursday. \n\n\n     Both things look doable. Tesla posted third-quarter automotive gross profit margin of about 17%, excluding any regulatory credit sales, in the third quarter. And CEO Elon Musk is targeting 20% to 30% volume growth, helped partly by a new lower-priced model due early this year. \n\n\n     If cars don't matter for Tesla stock, then what does? In short, artificial intelligence, said Jonas. Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot. \n\n\n     Tesla plans to launch a self-driving robotaxi service by the end of 2025. Musk also has suggested that robot sales could start this year. Having both happening are what can drive Tesla stock higher. \n\n\n     Shares already have had an impressive AI-fueled run. Coming into Friday, Tesla stock has risen more than 70% since the company's Oct. 10 Robotaxi event and have gained more than 60% since the Nov. 5 presidential election. \n\n\n     Tesla's Robotaxi Day outlined the company's plans for a robotaxi service. What's more, investors expect the incoming Donald Trump administration to accelerate federal rule-making to encourage autonomous vehicle deployment. \n\n\n     Shares were up 0.9% at $417.40 in premarket trading, while S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures each rose about 0.4%. \n\n\n     Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. For Jonas, \"anything but cars\" makes some sense. \n\n\n     He values Tesla's self-driving-related technologies, including robotaxis, at $258 a share, Tesla's battery storage business at $66 a share, and expects Tesla to supply technology to other automakers eventually. That's worth $17 a share. \n\n\n     He doesn't have a value for humanoid robots. Jonas is waiting to see how the technology, supply chain, and costs develop. \n\n\n     Jonas is at the higher end of analyst price targets. The average price target for Tesla shares is about $317, according to FactSet. \n\n\n     That's below where shares have been trading, but still values Tesla at $1 trillion, multiples of the combined value of many traditional auto makers. For most of Wall Street, it seems, Tesla is about more than cars. \n\n\n     Write to Al Root at  allen.root@dowjones.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n\n\n \n\n\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n\n\n  January 17, 2025 06:57 ET (11:57 GMT)\n\n\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":31,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":393533894762688,"gmtCreate":1737103882750,"gmtModify":1737106313642,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109249043338710","idStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Of course trump will not share with loser like u! So u can just FO","listText":"Of course trump will not share with loser like u! So u can just FO","text":"Of course trump will not share with loser like u! So u can just FO","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/393533894762688","repostId":"2504186337","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2504186337","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1737097200,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2504186337?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-17 15:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2504186337","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor.Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects.If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising.Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X , and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing.Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla ho","content":"<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Allan Sloan \n</p>\n<p>\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 15:00</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Allan Sloan \n</p>\n<p>\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","TSYW.SI":"TESLA 3xLongSG261006","BK4543":"AI","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","BK4588":"碎股","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU2360106780.USD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A4\" (USD) INC","LU2213496289.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","BK4581":"高盛持仓","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0964807845.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME & GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","LU1914381329.SGD":"Allianz Best Styles Global Equity Cl ET Acc H2-SGD","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","BK4516":"特朗普概念","SG9999015986.USD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (USD) ACC","IE00BK4W5M84.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL FUNDS ICAV US EQUITY INDEX \"HC\" (HKD) ACC","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","SG9999015978.USD":"利安颠覆性创新基金A","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0323591593.USD":"SCHRODER ISF QEP GLOBAL QUALITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2504186337","content_text":"By Allan Sloan \n\n\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n\n\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n\n\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n\n\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n\n\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n\n\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n\n\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n\n\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n\n\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n\n\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media & Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n\n\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n\n\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n\n\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n\n\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n\n\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n\n\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n\n\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n\n\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n\n\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n\n\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n\n\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. 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A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects.If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising.Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X , and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing.Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. 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A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 15:00</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Allan Sloan \n</p>\n<p>\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","TSYW.SI":"TESLA 3xLongSG261006","BK4543":"AI","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","BK4588":"碎股","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU2360106780.USD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A4\" (USD) INC","LU2213496289.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","BK4581":"高盛持仓","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0964807845.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME & GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","LU1914381329.SGD":"Allianz Best Styles Global Equity Cl ET Acc H2-SGD","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","BK4516":"特朗普概念","SG9999015986.USD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (USD) ACC","IE00BK4W5M84.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL FUNDS ICAV US EQUITY INDEX \"HC\" (HKD) ACC","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","SG9999015978.USD":"利安颠覆性创新基金A","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0323591593.USD":"SCHRODER ISF QEP GLOBAL QUALITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2504186337","content_text":"By Allan Sloan \n\n\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n\n\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n\n\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n\n\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n\n\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n\n\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n\n\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n\n\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n\n\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n\n\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media & Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n\n\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n\n\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n\n\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n\n\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n\n\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n\n\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n\n\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n\n\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n\n\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n\n\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n\n\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n\n\n \n\n\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n\n\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n\n\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":50,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":393190461943896,"gmtCreate":1737015645713,"gmtModify":1737015664265,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109249043338710","idStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another stupid sour grape","listText":"Another stupid sour grape","text":"Another stupid sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/393190461943896","repostId":"2503609813","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2503609813","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1737014400,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2503609813?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-16 16:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Tesla Stock a Buy Before Jan. 20?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2503609813","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Jan. 20 is shaping up to be an important date for Tesla investors.","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>For most of 2024, Tesla stock was relatively flat</p></li><li><p>However, following the presidential election in November, shares of Tesla rocketed to all-time highs.</p></li><li><p>Given the close relationship CEO Elon Musk has forged with President-elect Trump, Tesla investors may want to keep an eye on the stock as the inauguration nears.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Tesla</strong> is one of the most volatile megacap tech stocks. While owning Tesla has been (mostly) a great decision over the long term, timing has often been critical.</p><p>The company has a lot of exciting projects involving its electric vehicles and artificial intelligence (AI), but I&#39;m remaining cautious as an investor for the time being. Below, I&#39;m going to break down why Jan. 20 could be a particularly important date for Tesla investors and whether the stock is a buy before then.</p><h2 id=\"id_729652995\">Examining Tesla&#39;s volatility</h2><p>Let&#39;s break down Tesla&#39;s stock performance in 2024.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/7a164a548fc542a4e2b6e2628c0ed540\" alt=\"Data by YCharts.\" title=\"Data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"441\"/><span>Data by YCharts.</span></p><p>Between Jan. 1 and Nov. 4, 2024, Tesla stock was down 2.3% and trailing the <strong>S&amp;P 500</strong> by a wide margin. However, shares were actually down as much as 42.8% at one point during this period.</p><p>Following Donald Trump&#39;s victory in the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 5, Tesla stock found new life. Between Nov. 4 and Dec. 31, shares gained 66.3%, and the company reclaimed its position in the trillion-dollar club.</p><p>Tesla CEO Elon Musk emerged as a major Trump supporter during the final months on the campaign trail. Investors began to see the Trump-Musk alliance as a bullish indicator for Tesla.</p><p>While that may sound great for Musk and the company, look above at the stock&#39;s performance near the very end of the year, and you&#39;ll see Tesla began to sell off. Since Christmas Eve, shares are down 14.3% as of this writing.</p><p>Selling stocks at the end of the year is pretty common, especially for companies that have generated record gains over short periods. Moreover, Tesla recently published delivery and production figures for its electric vehicle operation for the fourth quarter, and they show that it missed Wall Street&#39;s expectations.</p><p>Although Tesla stock appears to be stuck in a downward trend, I wouldn&#39;t be surprised to see shares rebound as Jan. 20 inches closer. Let&#39;s dig into why.</p><h2 id=\"id_3429268122\">What is happening on Jan. 20?</h2><p>On Jan. 20, President-elect Donald Trump will be sworn into office. Given Musk&#39;s ties to the soon-to-be president, I would not be shocked in the slightest if Tesla stock starts to see an uptick.</p><p>Here&#39;s the reality: While Musk&#39;s relationship with Trump may bode well for Tesla -- especially as it relates to a friendlier regulatory environment for the company&#39;s autonomous driving ambitions -- any gains leading up to or immediately following the inauguration are driven by a narrative, not Tesla&#39;s fundamentals.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0e9a2668ed92a623a4c9b24b32400b1b\" alt=\"Image Source: Getty Images\" title=\"Image Source: Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"525\"/><span>Image Source: Getty Images</span></p><h2 id=\"id_1626200847\">Is Tesla stock a buy before then?</h2><p>Since the election, Tesla has fared much like a meme stock. Nothing about the company changed on Nov. 5. Nothing is going to change for it on Jan. 20, either. Investors don&#39;t know how the company&#39;s autonomous driving efforts will shake out or what regulatory changes the incoming administration will make in that area.</p><p>So if you&#39;re going to invest in Tesla stock right now, you should believe in the company&#39;s long-term vision for AI, self-driving cars, and robotics. If that&#39;s the case, it matters far less when you scoop up shares.</p><p>Otherwise, investing in momentum stocks like Tesla is usually risky. If you have a low tolerance for risk, you may want to steer clear.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla Stock a Buy Before Jan. 20?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs Tesla Stock a Buy Before Jan. 20?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2025-01-16 16:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/01/15/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-before-jan-20/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>For most of 2024, Tesla stock was relatively flatHowever, following the presidential election in November, shares of Tesla rocketed to all-time highs.Given the close relationship CEO Elon Musk has ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/01/15/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-before-jan-20/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/01/15/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-before-jan-20/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2503609813","content_text":"For most of 2024, Tesla stock was relatively flatHowever, following the presidential election in November, shares of Tesla rocketed to all-time highs.Given the close relationship CEO Elon Musk has forged with President-elect Trump, Tesla investors may want to keep an eye on the stock as the inauguration nears.Tesla is one of the most volatile megacap tech stocks. While owning Tesla has been (mostly) a great decision over the long term, timing has often been critical.The company has a lot of exciting projects involving its electric vehicles and artificial intelligence (AI), but I'm remaining cautious as an investor for the time being. Below, I'm going to break down why Jan. 20 could be a particularly important date for Tesla investors and whether the stock is a buy before then.Examining Tesla's volatilityLet's break down Tesla's stock performance in 2024.Data by YCharts.Between Jan. 1 and Nov. 4, 2024, Tesla stock was down 2.3% and trailing the S&P 500 by a wide margin. However, shares were actually down as much as 42.8% at one point during this period.Following Donald Trump's victory in the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 5, Tesla stock found new life. Between Nov. 4 and Dec. 31, shares gained 66.3%, and the company reclaimed its position in the trillion-dollar club.Tesla CEO Elon Musk emerged as a major Trump supporter during the final months on the campaign trail. Investors began to see the Trump-Musk alliance as a bullish indicator for Tesla.While that may sound great for Musk and the company, look above at the stock's performance near the very end of the year, and you'll see Tesla began to sell off. Since Christmas Eve, shares are down 14.3% as of this writing.Selling stocks at the end of the year is pretty common, especially for companies that have generated record gains over short periods. Moreover, Tesla recently published delivery and production figures for its electric vehicle operation for the fourth quarter, and they show that it missed Wall Street's expectations.Although Tesla stock appears to be stuck in a downward trend, I wouldn't be surprised to see shares rebound as Jan. 20 inches closer. Let's dig into why.What is happening on Jan. 20?On Jan. 20, President-elect Donald Trump will be sworn into office. Given Musk's ties to the soon-to-be president, I would not be shocked in the slightest if Tesla stock starts to see an uptick.Here's the reality: While Musk's relationship with Trump may bode well for Tesla -- especially as it relates to a friendlier regulatory environment for the company's autonomous driving ambitions -- any gains leading up to or immediately following the inauguration are driven by a narrative, not Tesla's fundamentals.Image Source: Getty ImagesIs Tesla stock a buy before then?Since the election, Tesla has fared much like a meme stock. Nothing about the company changed on Nov. 5. Nothing is going to change for it on Jan. 20, either. Investors don't know how the company's autonomous driving efforts will shake out or what regulatory changes the incoming administration will make in that area.So if you're going to invest in Tesla stock right now, you should believe in the company's long-term vision for AI, self-driving cars, and robotics. If that's the case, it matters far less when you scoop up shares.Otherwise, investing in momentum stocks like Tesla is usually risky. If you have a low tolerance for risk, you may want to steer clear.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":279,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":392945369686264,"gmtCreate":1736958562586,"gmtModify":1736959720191,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109249043338710","idStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another sour grape......FO","listText":"Another sour grape......FO","text":"Another sour grape......FO","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/392945369686264","repostId":"2503629410","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2503629410","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1736956756,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2503629410?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-15 23:59","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Three Reasons Why Wells Fargo Predicts 70% Plunge on Tesla's Stock","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2503629410","media":"GuruFocus.com","summary":"Wells Fargo has just reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock's rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 in the next year.Wells Fargo's analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla's struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players.The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla's pricing power and U.S. market demand.Also, Tesla's futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.GF Score for Tesla is 78 per 100, highlights company's ","content":"<html><body><p>Wells Fargo has just reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock's rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 in the next year.</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo's analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla's struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players.</p>\n<ul></ul>\n<p>The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla's pricing power and U.S. market demand.</p>\n<p>Also, Tesla's futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.</p>\n<p>This gloomy projection is made when Tesla enthusiasts are still betting big on the company's long-term vision. Will Elon Musk's team twist the skeptics to prove wrong, or does Tesla head towards a big correction as predicted?</p>\n<p><img height=\"400\" src=\"https://s1.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/Vxgt1J3GDcQu0WuKyV_4iQ--/cT03NTthcHBpZD15dmlkZW9mZWVkczs-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/us.finance.gurufocus/b9f0f5136caaec9fbdfe19e044ad49c8\" width=\"550\"/></p>\n<p>GF Score for Tesla is 78 per 100, highlights company's high financial strength and high revenue growth, but investors should take note that the profitability of Tesla is moderate, and the stock price is considered expensive. </p>This article first appeared on \nGuruFocus.\n<br/></body></html>","source":"yahoofinance","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Three Reasons Why Wells Fargo Predicts 70% Plunge on Tesla's Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThree Reasons Why Wells Fargo Predicts 70% Plunge on Tesla's Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2025-01-15 23:59 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-reasons-why-wells-fargo-155916938.html><strong>GuruFocus.com</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Wells Fargo has just reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock's rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-reasons-why-wells-fargo-155916938.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU0052756011.USD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL BALANCED \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU2360106780.USD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A4\" (USD) INC","LU1280957306.USD":"THREADNEEDLE (LUX) US CONTRARIAN CORE EQUITIES \"AUP\" (USD) INC","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","WFC":"富国银行","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","LU1914381329.SGD":"Allianz Best Styles Global Equity Cl ET Acc H2-SGD","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","LU0251142724.SGD":"Fidelity America A-SGD","LU0320765489.SGD":"FTIF - Franklin Mutual US Value A Acc SGD","BK4099":"汽车制造商","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0070302665.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","TSLA":"特斯拉","TSYW.SI":"TESLA 3xLongSG261006","LU0683600562.USD":"AB SELECT US EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","SG9999015978.USD":"利安颠覆性创新基金A","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","LU0323591593.USD":"SCHRODER ISF QEP GLOBAL QUALITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","IE0002270589.USD":"LEGG MASON CLEARBRIDGE VALUE \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0648001328.SGD":"Natixis Harris Associates US Equity RA SGD","LU0787776722.HKD":"AB SELECT US EQUITY PORTFOLIO \"A\" (HKD) ACC","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU1074936037.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Value A (acc) SGD","LU0477156953.USD":"HARRIS ASSOCIATES US VALUE EQUITY \"RE\" (USD) ACC","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU0149725797.USD":"汇丰美国股市经济规模基金","LU1035773651.USD":"AB SICAV I - GLOBAL VALUE PORTFOLIO \"AD\" (USD) INC","LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","LU0256863811.USD":"ALLIANZ US EQUITY \"A\" INC","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU1668664300.SGD":"Blackrock World Financials A2 SGD-H","LU0742534661.SGD":"Fidelity America A-SGD (hedged)","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-reasons-why-wells-fargo-155916938.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5f26f4a48f9cb3e29be4d71d3ba8c038","article_id":"2503629410","content_text":"Wells Fargo has just reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock's rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 in the next year.\nWells Fargo's analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla's struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players.\n\nThe analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla's pricing power and U.S. market demand.\nAlso, Tesla's futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.\nThis gloomy projection is made when Tesla enthusiasts are still betting big on the company's long-term vision. Will Elon Musk's team twist the skeptics to prove wrong, or does Tesla head towards a big correction as predicted?\n\nGF Score for Tesla is 78 per 100, highlights company's high financial strength and high revenue growth, but investors should take note that the profitability of Tesla is moderate, and the stock price is considered expensive. This article first appeared on \nGuruFocus.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":83,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":392265773699488,"gmtCreate":1736812202129,"gmtModify":1736818897590,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109249043338710","idStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another sour grape","listText":"Another sour grape","text":"Another sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/392265773699488","repostId":"2503317552","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2503317552","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1736808784,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2503317552?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-14 06:53","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Elon Musk misrepresents data that shows Tesla is still years away from unsupervised self-driving","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2503317552","media":"Electrek","summary":"Elon Musk is praising data that he claims shows Tesla is on the verge of achieving unsupervised Full Self-Driving, when in fact, it shows it is still years away and he is misrepresenting it.","content":"<html><body><div>\n<figure>\n<img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" height=\"792\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;w=1600\" srcset=\"https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=320&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 320w, https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=640&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 640w, https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=1024&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=1500&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 1500w\" width=\"1600\"/></figure>\n<p>Elon Musk is praising data that he claims shows Tesla is on the verge of achieving unsupervised Full Self-Driving, when in fact, it shows it is still years away and he is misrepresenting it.</p>\n<span></span>\n<p>It’s hard to take Musk seriously when it comes to self-driving timelines because he has been so consistently wrong for years. </p>\n<p>Some argue that you can’t hold that against him, even though he uses his claims to sell cars and sell “Full Self-Driving” packages for up to $15,000, because it is such a difficult and important thing to achieve.</p>\n<p>Even if you agree with this argument, there are clear problems with Musk’s claims regarding Tesla’s progress and timelines toward unsupervised self-driving. </p>\n<p>The biggest one is data. </p>\n<p>Tesla has consistently refused to share any data regarding its self-driving progress. That’s despite more recently starting to use “miles between necessary disengagement”, sometimes called “miles between critical disengagement”, as a metric to track progress and claiming x multiplicators in miles between critical disengagement in recent updates without any actual data to back it up.</p>\n<p>A recent example was Musk hyping Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) software updates 12.4 and 12.5 by claiming they will be able to drive “5 to 10x more miles per intervention“.</p>\n<p>Again, Tesla never released any data to back this up, but we have some crowdsourced data that pointed to FSD 12.5 achieving 183 miles (all versions combined excluding testers with fewer than 50 miles) between critical disengagement. Musk never specified the “5 to 10x” improvement was compared to what version, but if we compared it against the last update, FSD 12.3, miles between critical disengagement went down from 228 miles.</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"560\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1992px) 100vw, 1992px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?w=1024\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png 1992w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=150,42 150w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=300,84 300w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=768,216 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=1024,288 1024w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=1536,432 1536w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=350,98 350w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=140,39 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=1600,450 1600w\" width=\"1992\"/></figure>\n<p>There are no prior versions of Tesla FSD over the last 3 years that would add up to a 3x improvement in miles between critical disengagement. We can forget about “5 to 10x.”</p>\n<p>Now, Tesla has upgraded to FSD v13 and Musk again claims that it will “blow people’s mind.”</p>\n<p>The automaker claimed that v13 would bring “5 to 6x improved miles between necessary interventions” compared to v12.5.</p>\n<p>That means that Tesla anticipated FSD v13 to achieve between 915 and 1,098 miles between critical disengagement based on the crowdsourced data.</p>\n<p>Currently, after over 8,000 miles of crowdsourced data, FSD v13 is at 493 miles between critical disengagement:</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"556\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1998px) 100vw, 1998px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?w=1024\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png 1998w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=150,42 150w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=300,83 300w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=768,214 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=1024,285 1024w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=1536,427 1536w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=350,97 350w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=140,39 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=1600,445 1600w\" width=\"1998\"/></figure>\n<p>That’s a 2.7x improvement. It’s significant, but it is also a significant miss compared to what Tesla predicted.</p>\n<p>Now, Elon and Tesla fans like to claim that this crowdsourced data is flawed and that Tesla FSD is actually performing better. </p>\n<p>The data is indeed limited, but it is the best we have by far since Tesla refuses to share its own data. I have often fought against this accusation both because it is undoubtedly the best data available and because Elon Musk himself referred to this specific crowdsourced data in the past.</p>\n<p>Now, he has done it again and he did it to claim “exponential improvement” in Tesla’s FSD performance, but it is grossly misleading:</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"1432\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1184px) 100vw, 1184px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?w=847\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png 1184w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=124,150 124w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=248,300 248w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=768,929 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=847,1024 847w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=289,350 289w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=140,169 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=827,1000 827w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=150,181 150w\" width=\"1184\"/></figure>\n<p>This data only refers to highway miles and Tesla has been operating the same highway stack for years. The city driving software stack is different and based on “end-to-end neural nets”. The automaker kept promising to update it, but it barely ever did – leading to the stagnation you see in this chart.</p>\n<p>Tesla worked on this update for years, but it actually wasn’t released in v13. It came in v12.5.6.1. If we take all the v12 updates after this one, the average on highway was already 393 miles:</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"558\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1992px) 100vw, 1992px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?w=1024\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png 1992w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=150,42 150w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=300,84 300w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=768,215 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=1024,287 1024w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=1536,430 1536w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=350,98 350w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=140,39 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=1600,448 1600w\" width=\"1992\"/></figure>\n<p>This is no indication of “exponential improvement”. It is merely Tesla finally releasing a long overdue update to its highway software stack after working on the city software stack for the past 2 years.</p>\n<p>Furthermore, if we can take this acknowledgment from Musk that this data is representative of Tesla FSD performance, which should be the case otherwise it would be greatly misleading for him to share it, it shows that Tesla is still years away from achieving unsupervised self-driving despite Musk saying it will happen in “q2 2025”, which is months away.</p>\n<p>Ashok Elluswamy, the head of FSD at Tesla, has previously stated that for Tesla to enable unsupervised self-driving, Tesla needs to achieve the average in miles per critical intervention “equivalent of human miles between collision,” which stands at 670,000 miles, according to NHTSA.</p>\n<p>Therefore, based on this data shared by Musk, Tesla needs to go from 493 miles between disengegament to 670,000 miles between disengagement within the next 5 months.</p>\n<h2>Electrek’s Take</h2>\n<p>I’m no hater. I’m a realist. Without patting myself too much on the back, you have to give me some credit for predicting this with v13. After Tesla’s AI team released the planned improvements coming with v13, I reported that I could see it achieve close to “690 to 828 miles between critical disengagement.”</p>\n<p>But then I reported that v13 would result in improvements but come short of that goal after v13 was delayed by a few months and then released with a somewhat dumb-down version.</p>\n<p>Now, it ends up at 493 miles between disengagement. It makes sense. It is an impressive improvement, but it is also far short of what Tesla said would happen and still hundreds of thousands of miles away from what Tesla itself said it needs to be to achieve unsupervised self-driving.</p>\n<p>Not only that, but Elon is now misrepresenting the data to claim Tesla has achieved exponential growth without no evidence whatsoever.</p>\n<p>He is purposely only looking at highway data, which is misleading because the stack was barely updated for years. </p>\n<p>I think it’s clear that Elon either lies about self-driving or he has no idea what he is talking about, which somehow doesn’t stop him from confidently making statements that happen to help Tesla sell cars. It’s not suspicious at all.</p>\n<p>Again, I liked to point out that I believe that if Tesla was developing FSD in a vacuum without Elon Musk making claims about Tesla achieving unsupervised self-driving on x timeline, making “Tesla vehicles appreciating assets”, and then using this to sell cars and $15,000 self-driving packages, I think that Tesla’s FSd development would be celebrated.</p>\n<p>Instead, it is vastly seen as a fraud by many people. That’s Elon Musk’s fault.</p>\n</div></body></html>","source":"electrek_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk misrepresents data that shows Tesla is still years away from unsupervised self-driving</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ 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verge of achieving unsupervised Full Self-Driving, when in fact, it shows it is still years away and he is misrepresenting it.\n\nIt’s hard to take Musk seriously when it comes to self-driving timelines because he has been so consistently wrong for years. \nSome argue that you can’t hold that against him, even though he uses his claims to sell cars and sell “Full Self-Driving” packages for up to $15,000, because it is such a difficult and important thing to achieve.\nEven if you agree with this argument, there are clear problems with Musk’s claims regarding Tesla’s progress and timelines toward unsupervised self-driving. \nThe biggest one is data. \nTesla has consistently refused to share any data regarding its self-driving progress. That’s despite more recently starting to use “miles between necessary disengagement”, sometimes called “miles between critical disengagement”, as a metric to track progress and claiming x multiplicators in miles between critical disengagement in recent updates without any actual data to back it up.\nA recent example was Musk hyping Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) software updates 12.4 and 12.5 by claiming they will be able to drive “5 to 10x more miles per intervention“.\nAgain, Tesla never released any data to back this up, but we have some crowdsourced data that pointed to FSD 12.5 achieving 183 miles (all versions combined excluding testers with fewer than 50 miles) between critical disengagement. Musk never specified the “5 to 10x” improvement was compared to what version, but if we compared it against the last update, FSD 12.3, miles between critical disengagement went down from 228 miles.\n\nThere are no prior versions of Tesla FSD over the last 3 years that would add up to a 3x improvement in miles between critical disengagement. We can forget about “5 to 10x.”\nNow, Tesla has upgraded to FSD v13 and Musk again claims that it will “blow people’s mind.”\nThe automaker claimed that v13 would bring “5 to 6x improved miles between necessary interventions” compared to v12.5.\nThat means that Tesla anticipated FSD v13 to achieve between 915 and 1,098 miles between critical disengagement based on the crowdsourced data.\nCurrently, after over 8,000 miles of crowdsourced data, FSD v13 is at 493 miles between critical disengagement:\n\nThat’s a 2.7x improvement. It’s significant, but it is also a significant miss compared to what Tesla predicted.\nNow, Elon and Tesla fans like to claim that this crowdsourced data is flawed and that Tesla FSD is actually performing better. \nThe data is indeed limited, but it is the best we have by far since Tesla refuses to share its own data. I have often fought against this accusation both because it is undoubtedly the best data available and because Elon Musk himself referred to this specific crowdsourced data in the past.\nNow, he has done it again and he did it to claim “exponential improvement” in Tesla’s FSD performance, but it is grossly misleading:\n\nThis data only refers to highway miles and Tesla has been operating the same highway stack for years. The city driving software stack is different and based on “end-to-end neural nets”. The automaker kept promising to update it, but it barely ever did – leading to the stagnation you see in this chart.\nTesla worked on this update for years, but it actually wasn’t released in v13. It came in v12.5.6.1. If we take all the v12 updates after this one, the average on highway was already 393 miles:\n\nThis is no indication of “exponential improvement”. It is merely Tesla finally releasing a long overdue update to its highway software stack after working on the city software stack for the past 2 years.\nFurthermore, if we can take this acknowledgment from Musk that this data is representative of Tesla FSD performance, which should be the case otherwise it would be greatly misleading for him to share it, it shows that Tesla is still years away from achieving unsupervised self-driving despite Musk saying it will happen in “q2 2025”, which is months away.\nAshok Elluswamy, the head of FSD at Tesla, has previously stated that for Tesla to enable unsupervised self-driving, Tesla needs to achieve the average in miles per critical intervention “equivalent of human miles between collision,” which stands at 670,000 miles, according to NHTSA.\nTherefore, based on this data shared by Musk, Tesla needs to go from 493 miles between disengegament to 670,000 miles between disengagement within the next 5 months.\nElectrek’s Take\nI’m no hater. I’m a realist. Without patting myself too much on the back, you have to give me some credit for predicting this with v13. After Tesla’s AI team released the planned improvements coming with v13, I reported that I could see it achieve close to “690 to 828 miles between critical disengagement.”\nBut then I reported that v13 would result in improvements but come short of that goal after v13 was delayed by a few months and then released with a somewhat dumb-down version.\nNow, it ends up at 493 miles between disengagement. It makes sense. It is an impressive improvement, but it is also far short of what Tesla said would happen and still hundreds of thousands of miles away from what Tesla itself said it needs to be to achieve unsupervised self-driving.\nNot only that, but Elon is now misrepresenting the data to claim Tesla has achieved exponential growth without no evidence whatsoever.\nHe is purposely only looking at highway data, which is misleading because the stack was barely updated for years. \nI think it’s clear that Elon either lies about self-driving or he has no idea what he is talking about, which somehow doesn’t stop him from confidently making statements that happen to help Tesla sell cars. It’s not suspicious at all.\nAgain, I liked to point out that I believe that if Tesla was developing FSD in a vacuum without Elon Musk making claims about Tesla achieving unsupervised self-driving on x timeline, making “Tesla vehicles appreciating assets”, and then using this to sell cars and $15,000 self-driving packages, I think that Tesla’s FSd development would be celebrated.\nInstead, it is vastly seen as a fraud by many people. 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Pls make up yr F mind!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/391092036952600","repostId":"2502861071","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2502861071","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1736518560,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2502861071?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-10 22:16","market":"fut","language":"en","title":"Tesla's Model Y Gets an Update in China. What It Means for the Stock. -- Barrons.com","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2502861071","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Tesla is updating its most popular vehicle. It's a good thing for growth, but it isn't enough to get investors to where they want to go.The electric-vehicle maker launched an updated version of its Model Y crossover vehicle in China. \"Looks very nice,\" said Future Fund Active ETF co-founder and Tesla shareholder Gary Black.The front includes a thin strip of lights, like those on a Cybertruck. \"The vehicle has been redesigned to maximize efficiency and use each degree of electricity more effectively,\" reads Tesla's China website.Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. Through September, Tesla sold about 132,000 Model 3 sedans in the U.S. last year, down about 21% year over year.The Model 3 underperformed the overall EV market by about 30 percentage points. That is actually better than the performance in 2023. 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They don't always lead to big sales gains. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. Through September, Tesla sold about 132,000 Model 3 sedans in the U.S. last year, down about 21% year over year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The Model 3 underperformed the overall EV market by about 30 percentage points. That is actually better than the performance in 2023. Model 3 sales grew 4% year over year, but the U.S. EV market grew 46%, for an underperformance of roughly 42 percentage points. \n</p>\n<p>\n     All that means the update to the Model 3 helped, but wasn't a magic bullet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     In 2024, Tesla's overall sales were down about 5% year over year through September. Model Y sales dropped 4%, but Cybertruck sales helped growth. Tesla sold about 28,000 Cybertrucks to Americans in the first nine months of the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     As for 2025, investors are looking for Tesla to grow EV volumes by 20% to 30%. That is the goal CEO Elon Musk set on his company's third-quarter earnings conference call. That means about 2.3 million vehicles, up from about 1.8 million delivered in 2024. \n</p>\n<p>\n     An updated version of the Y, one of the best-selling cars on the planet, will help. But the Y alone won't get Tesla to its growth goals. The company is also expected to launch a lower-priced vehicle in early 2025. It should start at or below $30,000 and open up more of the car market to the EV maker. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Investors shouldn't forget that Tesla is no longer all about cars. Investors are most optimistic about artificial intelligence. Tesla plans to launch an AI-trained robotaxi service in late 2025. Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 65% since the company's Oct. 10 robotaxi event, adding some $550 billion in market value. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla stock was down 0.9% in premarket trading at $391.43, while futures on the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average were down 1.1% and 1%, respectively. Futures fell after labor market data for December was better than expected, making it a little less likely the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates rapidly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Al Root at allen.root@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 10, 2025 09:16 ET (14:16 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla's Model Y Gets an Update in China. 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What It Means for the Stock. -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-10 22:16</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  Al Root \n</p>\n<p>\n  Tesla is updating its most popular vehicle. It's a good thing for growth, but it isn't enough to get investors to where they want to go. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The electric-vehicle maker launched an updated version of its Model Y crossover vehicle in China. \"Looks very nice,\" said Future Fund Active ETF co-founder and Tesla shareholder Gary Black. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The front includes a thin strip of lights, like those on a Cybertruck. \"The vehicle has been redesigned to maximize efficiency and use each degree of electricity more effectively,\" reads Tesla's China website. \n</p>\n<p>\n     While updates and redesigned models are a common way for car companies to boost sales, they are the bare minimum auto makers need to do to maintain their brands and market share. They don't always lead to big sales gains. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. Through September, Tesla sold about 132,000 Model 3 sedans in the U.S. last year, down about 21% year over year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The Model 3 underperformed the overall EV market by about 30 percentage points. That is actually better than the performance in 2023. Model 3 sales grew 4% year over year, but the U.S. EV market grew 46%, for an underperformance of roughly 42 percentage points. \n</p>\n<p>\n     All that means the update to the Model 3 helped, but wasn't a magic bullet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     In 2024, Tesla's overall sales were down about 5% year over year through September. Model Y sales dropped 4%, but Cybertruck sales helped growth. Tesla sold about 28,000 Cybertrucks to Americans in the first nine months of the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     As for 2025, investors are looking for Tesla to grow EV volumes by 20% to 30%. That is the goal CEO Elon Musk set on his company's third-quarter earnings conference call. That means about 2.3 million vehicles, up from about 1.8 million delivered in 2024. \n</p>\n<p>\n     An updated version of the Y, one of the best-selling cars on the planet, will help. But the Y alone won't get Tesla to its growth goals. The company is also expected to launch a lower-priced vehicle in early 2025. It should start at or below $30,000 and open up more of the car market to the EV maker. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Investors shouldn't forget that Tesla is no longer all about cars. Investors are most optimistic about artificial intelligence. Tesla plans to launch an AI-trained robotaxi service in late 2025. Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 65% since the company's Oct. 10 robotaxi event, adding some $550 billion in market value. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla stock was down 0.9% in premarket trading at $391.43, while futures on the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average were down 1.1% and 1%, respectively. Futures fell after labor market data for December was better than expected, making it a little less likely the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates rapidly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Al Root at allen.root@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. 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It's a good thing for growth, but it isn't enough to get investors to where they want to go. \n\n\n     The electric-vehicle maker launched an updated version of its Model Y crossover vehicle in China. \"Looks very nice,\" said Future Fund Active ETF co-founder and Tesla shareholder Gary Black. \n\n\n     The front includes a thin strip of lights, like those on a Cybertruck. \"The vehicle has been redesigned to maximize efficiency and use each degree of electricity more effectively,\" reads Tesla's China website. \n\n\n     While updates and redesigned models are a common way for car companies to boost sales, they are the bare minimum auto makers need to do to maintain their brands and market share. They don't always lead to big sales gains. \n\n\n     Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. Through September, Tesla sold about 132,000 Model 3 sedans in the U.S. last year, down about 21% year over year. \n\n\n     The Model 3 underperformed the overall EV market by about 30 percentage points. That is actually better than the performance in 2023. Model 3 sales grew 4% year over year, but the U.S. EV market grew 46%, for an underperformance of roughly 42 percentage points. \n\n\n     All that means the update to the Model 3 helped, but wasn't a magic bullet. \n\n\n     In 2024, Tesla's overall sales were down about 5% year over year through September. Model Y sales dropped 4%, but Cybertruck sales helped growth. Tesla sold about 28,000 Cybertrucks to Americans in the first nine months of the year. \n\n\n     As for 2025, investors are looking for Tesla to grow EV volumes by 20% to 30%. That is the goal CEO Elon Musk set on his company's third-quarter earnings conference call. That means about 2.3 million vehicles, up from about 1.8 million delivered in 2024. \n\n\n     An updated version of the Y, one of the best-selling cars on the planet, will help. But the Y alone won't get Tesla to its growth goals. The company is also expected to launch a lower-priced vehicle in early 2025. It should start at or below $30,000 and open up more of the car market to the EV maker. \n\n\n     Investors shouldn't forget that Tesla is no longer all about cars. Investors are most optimistic about artificial intelligence. Tesla plans to launch an AI-trained robotaxi service in late 2025. Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 65% since the company's Oct. 10 robotaxi event, adding some $550 billion in market value. \n\n\n     Tesla stock was down 0.9% in premarket trading at $391.43, while futures on the S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average were down 1.1% and 1%, respectively. 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According to him, the project would help keep “the future of technology” in the US. However, aBloombergreport reveals how Elon Musk is openly questioning whether the companies that have joined Trump’s announcement, promising hundreds of billions of dollars in artificial intelligence, could follow through on them.Contrary to Musk’s claims, Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, had his own statements to make on X. Altman posted that Musk’s claims are wrong and that he has been upset because this initiative could compete with his Elon Musk’s own AI endeavors.","content":"<html><body><p>We recently published a list of <strong>10 AI Stocks Investors are Watching Closely</strong>. In this article, we are going to take a look at where Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) stands against other AI stocks investors are watching closely.</p>\n<p>President Donald Trump has only recently announced the Stargate initiative, claiming it to be “the largest AI infrastructure project by far in history”. According to him, the project would help keep “the future of technology” in the US. However, a <em>Bloomberg </em>report reveals how Elon Musk is openly questioning whether the companies that have joined Trump’s announcement, promising hundreds of billions of dollars in artificial intelligence, could follow through on them.</p>\n<p><strong>READ ALSO: 10 Buzzing AI Stocks on Latest News and Ratings and 11 AI Stocks That Should Be On Your Watchlist</strong></p>\n<p>Could this be a sign of an early difference of opinion within the White House? Only hours after the announcement, Musk took to his platform, X, to reveal that the companies don’t have the funds.</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“They don’t actually have the money. SoftBank has well under $10B secured. I have that on good authority”.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Contrary to Musk’s claims, Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, had his own statements to make on X. Altman posted that Musk’s claims are wrong and that he has been upset because this initiative could compete with his Elon Musk’s own AI endeavors.</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“Wrong, as you surely know. Want to come visit the first site already under way? This is great for the country. I realize what is great for the country isn’t always what’s optimal for your companies, but in your new role I hope you’ll mostly put US first”.</p>\n<p>— Sam Altman</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Musk is leading Trump’s government efficiency efforts and will also be advising him on spending. The billionaire, ever since leaving OpenAI’s board in 2018, has been engaged in a feud with Altman. Sources close to Stargate also reveal that they are not sure how Musk has arrived at the figure. According to them, the company is well-positioned to deploy $100 billion.</p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“I think this will be the most important project of this era. We wouldn’t be able to do this without you, Mr. President”.</p>\n<p>-Sam Altman.</p>\n</blockquote>\n</blockquote>\n<p>In light of this, <em>Bloomberg</em> revealed that Trump has, on several occasions, promoted private-sector investment promises that never went on to materialize. One of these failed promises has been the failed Foxconn factory project which Trump deemed as the <em>“Eighth Wonder of the World”.</em> No wonder the Stargate announcement has sparked skepticism regarding the project’s completion.</p>\n<p>For this article, we selected AI stocks by going through news articles, stock analysis, and press releases. These stocks are also popular among hedge funds.</p>\n<p>Why are we interested in the stocks that hedge funds pile into? The reason is simple: our research has shown that we can outperform the market by imitating the top stock picks of the best hedge funds. Our quarterly newsletter’s strategy selects 14 small-cap and large-cap stocks every quarter and has returned 275% since May 2014, beating its benchmark by 150 percentage points <strong>(see more details here)</strong>.</p>\n<img height=\"565\" src=\"https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/.hVMnOQyk5E3uUk17Imujw--/cT03NTthcHBpZD15dmlkZW9mZWVkczs-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/insidermonkey.com/11c7ac85f26fcb755f9782d181485984\" width=\"847\"/> Copyright: \nwolandmaster / 123RF Stock Photo\n<h3>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA)</h3>\n<p><strong><em>Number of Hedge Fund Holders: 99</em></strong></p>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) is an automotive and clean energy company that leverages advanced artificial intelligence in its autonomous driving technology and robotics initiatives. One of the biggest analyst calls for Tuesday, January 21<sup>st</sup>, was for Tesla Inc. Piper Sandler reiterated an “Overweight” rating on Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) and raised the firm’s price target to $500 from $315. According to the firm, investors have begun appreciating Tesla’s potential in real-world artificial intelligence. The analyst told investors in the research note that as a result of this, portfolio managers are entertaining the possibility of the stock going up. Moreover, once the company is done with its current car launch plans, it will redirect its focus toward its full-driving software (FSD). The firm hasn’t estimated the impact of other ambiguous AI endeavors but is optimistic that new-age opportunities like Optimus robots and neural-net-training-as-a-service will shape the company’s thesis. According to the firm, Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) first half of 2025 “may be choppy,” but it remains its top “buy-and-hold idea”.</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>“Regarding our views on the stock, TSLA is still our #1 buy-and-hold idea, and accordingly, we’re boosting our price target to $500 (up from $315)”.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Overall, TSLA <strong><b>ranks 2nd</b></strong> on our list of AI stocks investors are watching closely. While we acknowledge the potential of TSLA as an investment, our conviction lies in the belief that some AI stocks hold greater promise for delivering higher returns and doing so within a shorter time frame. If you are looking for an AI stock that is more promising than TSLA but that trades at less than 5 times its earnings, check out our report about the <strong>cheapest AI stock</strong>.</p>\n<p><strong><b>READ NEXT: </b></strong><strong><b>20 Best AI Stocks To Buy Now</b></strong><strong><b> and </b></strong><strong><b>Complete List of 59 AI Companies Under $2 Billion in Market Cap</b></strong></p>\n<p>Disclosure: None. 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In this article, we are going to take a look at where Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) stands against other AI stocks investors are watching closely.\nPresident Donald Trump has only recently announced the Stargate initiative, claiming it to be “the largest AI infrastructure project by far in history”. According to him, the project would help keep “the future of technology” in the US. However, a Bloomberg report reveals how Elon Musk is openly questioning whether the companies that have joined Trump’s announcement, promising hundreds of billions of dollars in artificial intelligence, could follow through on them.\nREAD ALSO: 10 Buzzing AI Stocks on Latest News and Ratings and 11 AI Stocks That Should Be On Your Watchlist\nCould this be a sign of an early difference of opinion within the White House? Only hours after the announcement, Musk took to his platform, X, to reveal that the companies don’t have the funds.\n\n“They don’t actually have the money. SoftBank has well under $10B secured. I have that on good authority”.\n\nContrary to Musk’s claims, Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, had his own statements to make on X. Altman posted that Musk’s claims are wrong and that he has been upset because this initiative could compete with his Elon Musk’s own AI endeavors.\n\n“Wrong, as you surely know. Want to come visit the first site already under way? This is great for the country. I realize what is great for the country isn’t always what’s optimal for your companies, but in your new role I hope you’ll mostly put US first”.\n— Sam Altman\n\nMusk is leading Trump’s government efficiency efforts and will also be advising him on spending. The billionaire, ever since leaving OpenAI’s board in 2018, has been engaged in a feud with Altman. Sources close to Stargate also reveal that they are not sure how Musk has arrived at the figure. According to them, the company is well-positioned to deploy $100 billion.\n\n\n“I think this will be the most important project of this era. We wouldn’t be able to do this without you, Mr. President”.\n-Sam Altman.\n\n\nIn light of this, Bloomberg revealed that Trump has, on several occasions, promoted private-sector investment promises that never went on to materialize. One of these failed promises has been the failed Foxconn factory project which Trump deemed as the “Eighth Wonder of the World”. No wonder the Stargate announcement has sparked skepticism regarding the project’s completion.\nFor this article, we selected AI stocks by going through news articles, stock analysis, and press releases. These stocks are also popular among hedge funds.\nWhy are we interested in the stocks that hedge funds pile into? The reason is simple: our research has shown that we can outperform the market by imitating the top stock picks of the best hedge funds. Our quarterly newsletter’s strategy selects 14 small-cap and large-cap stocks every quarter and has returned 275% since May 2014, beating its benchmark by 150 percentage points (see more details here).\n Copyright: \nwolandmaster / 123RF Stock Photo\nTesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA)\nNumber of Hedge Fund Holders: 99\nTesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) is an automotive and clean energy company that leverages advanced artificial intelligence in its autonomous driving technology and robotics initiatives. One of the biggest analyst calls for Tuesday, January 21st, was for Tesla Inc. Piper Sandler reiterated an “Overweight” rating on Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) and raised the firm’s price target to $500 from $315. According to the firm, investors have begun appreciating Tesla’s potential in real-world artificial intelligence. The analyst told investors in the research note that as a result of this, portfolio managers are entertaining the possibility of the stock going up. Moreover, once the company is done with its current car launch plans, it will redirect its focus toward its full-driving software (FSD). The firm hasn’t estimated the impact of other ambiguous AI endeavors but is optimistic that new-age opportunities like Optimus robots and neural-net-training-as-a-service will shape the company’s thesis. According to the firm, Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) first half of 2025 “may be choppy,” but it remains its top “buy-and-hold idea”.\n\n“Regarding our views on the stock, TSLA is still our #1 buy-and-hold idea, and accordingly, we’re boosting our price target to $500 (up from $315)”.\n\nOverall, TSLA ranks 2nd on our list of AI stocks investors are watching closely. While we acknowledge the potential of TSLA as an investment, our conviction lies in the belief that some AI stocks hold greater promise for delivering higher returns and doing so within a shorter time frame. If you are looking for an AI stock that is more promising than TSLA but that trades at less than 5 times its earnings, check out our report about the cheapest AI stock.\nREAD NEXT: 20 Best AI Stocks To Buy Now and Complete List of 59 AI Companies Under $2 Billion in Market Cap\nDisclosure: None. 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Net income rose to about $2.17 billion, or 62 cents a share, from $1.85 billion, or 53 cents a share, a year ago.</p><h2 id=\"id_2617719276\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Q4 Results Outlook</h2><h3 id=\"id_2820609817\">Tesla Reports First-Ever Drop in Annual Deliveries</h3><p>Tesla has posted its fourth-quarter vehicle production and deliveries report. Here are the key numbers:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total deliveries Q4 2024: 495,570</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total production Q4 2024: 459,445</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual deliveries 2024: 1,789,226</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual production 2024: 1,773,443</p></li></ul><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Results for the quarter represented the first annual drop in delivery numbers for Tesla, which reported 1.81 million deliveries in 2023. It reported 484,507 deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2023.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f090297df6420f10d4b244f59952a048\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"622\"/></p><h3 id=\"id_633700293\">Tesla&#39;s Megapack Gains a Sweetener as Car Sales Slow</h3><p>Tesla&#39;s 4Q earnings appear poised to top consensus, fueled by record-breaking deployments in its energy segment. The ramp-up of its Megapack battery plant in Shanghai -- almost doubling storage deployment to 60 gigawatt-hours -- will likely boost future earnings, with an estimated 30% gross margin outperforming the auto segment. In 1H, Tesla plans to launch an updated Model Y and introduce a new, more affordable model, expanding market reach. The latter&#39;s earnings impact will be more pronounced by late 2025.</p><p>Total auto 4Q gross margin could drop as much as 100 bps from 3Q&#39;s 20.1%, but may still be better than 1H24. A production decline in the quarter may suggest preparation for a Model Y refresh.</p><h3 id=\"id_3433050886\">Trump&#39;s Policies, Autonomous Vehicle Timelines and 2025 Guidance</h3><p>Tesla<strong> </strong>stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump&#39;s election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, including possibly dialing back the Inflation Reduction Act and the potential easing of regulations for autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Analysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.</p><p>Investors also will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.</p><p>Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he&#39;s said similar &#34;this year&#34; or &#34;next year&#34; statements for about a decade.</p><p>In addition, Tesla&#39;s guidance for 2025 is an important factor affecting the stock price.</p><h2 id=\"id_30813270\">Analyst&#39;s opinions</h2><h4 id=\"id_512543951\">Bulls</h4><p><strong>Morgan Stanley</strong> believes Tesla shares have significant upside as the company rolls out a fleet of autonomous cars, or robotaxis, that run on artificial intelligence.</p><p>Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley&#39;s high-profile auto analyst and a TSLA bull,<strong> </strong>increased his Tesla stock price target to 430 from 400, keeping an overweight rating on the shares, which remain a &#34;top pick&#34; for the firm. The firm also sees a bull case in which Tesla’s stock could ultimately double to $800 per share.</p><p><strong>Wedbush Securities</strong> hiked its base case price target on Tesla to $550 from $515 on its view that the golden age of autonomous, FSD, and Optimus has arrived. The firm has growing confidence in the demand delivery story for 2025 along with a fast tracking of the autonomous future under the Trump Administration. The bull case price target on Tesla was pushed up to $650.</p><p>Tesla continues to be <strong>Piper Sandler</strong>&#39;s &#34;#1 buy-and-hold idea,&#34; as the firm raised its price target for the stock from $315 to $500. The firm’s analysts believe investors are beginning to appreciate Tesla&#39;s potential in &#34;real-world A.I.,&#34; which is driving portfolio managers to consider upside scenarios more seriously.</p><h4 id=\"id_1883715770\">Bears</h4><p><strong>Wells Fargo</strong> reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock&#39;s rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 this year.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Wells Fargo&#39;s analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla&#39;s struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players. The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla&#39;s pricing power and U.S. market demand.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Also, Tesla&#39;s futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.</p><p><strong>Bank of America</strong> downgraded Tesla from Buy to Neutral. The investment company expressed worries about Tesla&#39;s high valuation and possible difficulties carrying out its bold initiatives.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With much of Tesla&#39;s growth potentialincluding developments in autonomous driving, energy storage, and roboticsincluding already reflected in the stock&#39;s current valuation. Bank of America analysts set a price target of $490. 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Net income rose to about $2.17 billion, or 62 cents a share, from $1.85 billion, or 53 cents a share, a year ago.</p><h2 id=\"id_2617719276\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Q4 Results Outlook</h2><h3 id=\"id_2820609817\">Tesla Reports First-Ever Drop in Annual Deliveries</h3><p>Tesla has posted its fourth-quarter vehicle production and deliveries report. Here are the key numbers:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total deliveries Q4 2024: 495,570</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total production Q4 2024: 459,445</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual deliveries 2024: 1,789,226</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Total annual production 2024: 1,773,443</p></li></ul><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Results for the quarter represented the first annual drop in delivery numbers for Tesla, which reported 1.81 million deliveries in 2023. It reported 484,507 deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2023.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f090297df6420f10d4b244f59952a048\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"622\"/></p><h3 id=\"id_633700293\">Tesla&#39;s Megapack Gains a Sweetener as Car Sales Slow</h3><p>Tesla&#39;s 4Q earnings appear poised to top consensus, fueled by record-breaking deployments in its energy segment. The ramp-up of its Megapack battery plant in Shanghai -- almost doubling storage deployment to 60 gigawatt-hours -- will likely boost future earnings, with an estimated 30% gross margin outperforming the auto segment. In 1H, Tesla plans to launch an updated Model Y and introduce a new, more affordable model, expanding market reach. The latter&#39;s earnings impact will be more pronounced by late 2025.</p><p>Total auto 4Q gross margin could drop as much as 100 bps from 3Q&#39;s 20.1%, but may still be better than 1H24. A production decline in the quarter may suggest preparation for a Model Y refresh.</p><h3 id=\"id_3433050886\">Trump&#39;s Policies, Autonomous Vehicle Timelines and 2025 Guidance</h3><p>Tesla<strong> </strong>stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump&#39;s election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, including possibly dialing back the Inflation Reduction Act and the potential easing of regulations for autonomous vehicles.</p><p>Analysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.</p><p>Investors also will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.</p><p>Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he&#39;s said similar &#34;this year&#34; or &#34;next year&#34; statements for about a decade.</p><p>In addition, Tesla&#39;s guidance for 2025 is an important factor affecting the stock price.</p><h2 id=\"id_30813270\">Analyst&#39;s opinions</h2><h4 id=\"id_512543951\">Bulls</h4><p><strong>Morgan Stanley</strong> believes Tesla shares have significant upside as the company rolls out a fleet of autonomous cars, or robotaxis, that run on artificial intelligence.</p><p>Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley&#39;s high-profile auto analyst and a TSLA bull,<strong> </strong>increased his Tesla stock price target to 430 from 400, keeping an overweight rating on the shares, which remain a &#34;top pick&#34; for the firm. The firm also sees a bull case in which Tesla’s stock could ultimately double to $800 per share.</p><p><strong>Wedbush Securities</strong> hiked its base case price target on Tesla to $550 from $515 on its view that the golden age of autonomous, FSD, and Optimus has arrived. The firm has growing confidence in the demand delivery story for 2025 along with a fast tracking of the autonomous future under the Trump Administration. The bull case price target on Tesla was pushed up to $650.</p><p>Tesla continues to be <strong>Piper Sandler</strong>&#39;s &#34;#1 buy-and-hold idea,&#34; as the firm raised its price target for the stock from $315 to $500. The firm’s analysts believe investors are beginning to appreciate Tesla&#39;s potential in &#34;real-world A.I.,&#34; which is driving portfolio managers to consider upside scenarios more seriously.</p><h4 id=\"id_1883715770\">Bears</h4><p><strong>Wells Fargo</strong> reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock&#39;s rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 this year.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Wells Fargo&#39;s analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla&#39;s struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players. The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla&#39;s pricing power and U.S. market demand.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Also, Tesla&#39;s futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.</p><p><strong>Bank of America</strong> downgraded Tesla from Buy to Neutral. The investment company expressed worries about Tesla&#39;s high valuation and possible difficulties carrying out its bold initiatives.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">With much of Tesla&#39;s growth potentialincluding developments in autonomous driving, energy storage, and roboticsincluding already reflected in the stock&#39;s current valuation. Bank of America analysts set a price target of $490. 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Net income rose to about $2.17 billion, or 62 cents a share, from $1.85 billion, or 53 cents a share, a year ago.Q4 Results OutlookTesla Reports First-Ever Drop in Annual DeliveriesTesla has posted its fourth-quarter vehicle production and deliveries report. Here are the key numbers:Total deliveries Q4 2024: 495,570Total production Q4 2024: 459,445Total annual deliveries 2024: 1,789,226Total annual production 2024: 1,773,443Results for the quarter represented the first annual drop in delivery numbers for Tesla, which reported 1.81 million deliveries in 2023. It reported 484,507 deliveries in the fourth quarter of 2023.Tesla's Megapack Gains a Sweetener as Car Sales SlowTesla's 4Q earnings appear poised to top consensus, fueled by record-breaking deployments in its energy segment. The ramp-up of its Megapack battery plant in Shanghai -- almost doubling storage deployment to 60 gigawatt-hours -- will likely boost future earnings, with an estimated 30% gross margin outperforming the auto segment. In 1H, Tesla plans to launch an updated Model Y and introduce a new, more affordable model, expanding market reach. The latter's earnings impact will be more pronounced by late 2025.Total auto 4Q gross margin could drop as much as 100 bps from 3Q's 20.1%, but may still be better than 1H24. A production decline in the quarter may suggest preparation for a Model Y refresh.Trump's Policies, Autonomous Vehicle Timelines and 2025 GuidanceTesla stock gained around 63% in 2024, virtually all of that in the fourth quarter, especially after President-elect Donald Trump's election win. Now, investors await Trump administration policy, including possibly dialing back the Inflation Reduction Act and the potential easing of regulations for autonomous vehicles.Analysts generally see the Trump presidency as an overall negative for EVs, but a positive for Tesla. Musk fostered a good relationship with the president-elect after campaigning tirelessly for him throughout the election cycle.Investors also will be looking for updates on autonomous vehicle timelines and 2025 guidance.Tesla influencers gushed over Full Self-Driving v13 following a limited release around Thanksgiving. But since then, a wider FSD v13 rollout suggests no major step toward self-driving.Musk has said he expects FSD to achieve true self-driving by mid-2025, though he's said similar \"this year\" or \"next year\" statements for about a decade.In addition, Tesla's guidance for 2025 is an important factor affecting the stock price.Analyst's opinionsBullsMorgan Stanley believes Tesla shares have significant upside as the company rolls out a fleet of autonomous cars, or robotaxis, that run on artificial intelligence.Adam Jonas, Morgan Stanley's high-profile auto analyst and a TSLA bull, increased his Tesla stock price target to 430 from 400, keeping an overweight rating on the shares, which remain a \"top pick\" for the firm. The firm also sees a bull case in which Tesla’s stock could ultimately double to $800 per share.Wedbush Securities hiked its base case price target on Tesla to $550 from $515 on its view that the golden age of autonomous, FSD, and Optimus has arrived. The firm has growing confidence in the demand delivery story for 2025 along with a fast tracking of the autonomous future under the Trump Administration. The bull case price target on Tesla was pushed up to $650.Tesla continues to be Piper Sandler's \"#1 buy-and-hold idea,\" as the firm raised its price target for the stock from $315 to $500. The firm’s analysts believe investors are beginning to appreciate Tesla's potential in \"real-world A.I.,\" which is driving portfolio managers to consider upside scenarios more seriously.BearsWells Fargo reaffirmed on its bearish Tesla call, ignoring the stock's rally and as a reminder to investors that bears still persevere on Wall Street. Despite the underweight rating, the bank forecasts Tesla shares will collapse another 70% to $125 this year.Wells Fargo's analyst commented that the grim prediction is driven by weak business fundamentals. They point to Tesla's struggles to prop up vehicle deliveries despite deep discounts, and they warn about fierce competition from Chinese EV players. The analyst added that the potential to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits may impact a serious threat to Tesla's pricing power and U.S. market demand.Also, Tesla's futuristic CyberCab and humanoid robot Optimus fail to impress Wells Fargo. These innovations have always been exciting, but the bank warns they are in development and are still incredibly expensive, even though they are operational in some form.Bank of America downgraded Tesla from Buy to Neutral. The investment company expressed worries about Tesla's high valuation and possible difficulties carrying out its bold initiatives.With much of Tesla's growth potentialincluding developments in autonomous driving, energy storage, and roboticsincluding already reflected in the stock's current valuation. Bank of America analysts set a price target of $490. 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Check Out These Unloved AI Bargains","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2505287675","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Looking to invest in artificial intelligence stocks this year and worried you've missed the boat?Don't worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like Tesla and Nvidia is the solution.That's according to Morningstar's chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies' capital expenditure levels can't carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI's ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.\"We're not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,\" Sekera told Barron's. \"It will still increase, but we won't see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.\". This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Looking to invest in artificial intelligence stocks this year and worried you&#39;ve missed the boat? Don&#39;t worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Motors</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">NVIDIA</a>  is the solution.</p><p>That&#39;s according to Morningstar&#39;s chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.</p><p>His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies&#39; capital expenditure levels can&#39;t carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI&#39;s ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.</p><p>&#34;We&#39;re not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,&#34; Sekera told Barron&#39;s. &#34;It will still increase, but we won&#39;t see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.&#34;</p><p>That means Morningstar is more bearish than most on Nvidia, which has made shattering Wall Street&#39;s expectations into something of a quarterly tradition over the past two years. The research firm thinks the stock is now trading close to its fair value after back-to-back years of triple-digit gains.</p><p>Tesla looks even more overvalued by Morningstar&#39;s value investing-focused metrics -- strategists think that at $426.50, the stock is trading at more than double its fair value.</p><p>The AI stocks Sekera is bullish on range from the well-established AI plays to a couple of unloved and under-the-radar names. Software developers  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ORCL\">Oracle</a>  and Google owner  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">Alphabet</a>  are all trading at a discount to their fair value, by Morningstar&#39;s metrics -- but those aren&#39;t exactly unheard-of picks to benefit from the AI surge.</p><p>Chip maker  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">Advanced Micro Devices</a>  has dropped 30% over the past year, but that selloff has made it another name that looks undervalued, according to Morningstar. Sekera told Barron&#39;s that the stock &#34;now trades too much to the downside,&#34; adding that he thinks for the long-term AMD will be &#34;the number two player behind Nvidia&#34; in providing graphics processing units and AI hardware.</p><p>A less well-known stock that Sekera&#39;s team likes is  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CTSH\">Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp</a> , an S&amp;P 500-listed business consultancy that Morningstar thinks trades at an 18% discount to its fair value. Sekera said Cognizant was one of a number of companies set to benefit from using AI to improve productivity and efficiency in a bid to boost their margins.</p><p>&#34;We aren&#39;t bearish on AI -- we think a lot of stocks now have AI fully priced in, but there are still select pockets of undervaluation in the space,&#34; he told Barron&#39;s. It&#39;s a reminder that there are still bargains to be found, even in such a red-hot space.</p><p></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Forget Tesla and Nvidia Stocks. 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Check Out These Unloved AI Bargains\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-21 11:03</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Looking to invest in artificial intelligence stocks this year and worried you&#39;ve missed the boat? Don&#39;t worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla Motors</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">NVIDIA</a>  is the solution.</p><p>That&#39;s according to Morningstar&#39;s chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.</p><p>His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies&#39; capital expenditure levels can&#39;t carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI&#39;s ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.</p><p>&#34;We&#39;re not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,&#34; Sekera told Barron&#39;s. &#34;It will still increase, but we won&#39;t see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.&#34;</p><p>That means Morningstar is more bearish than most on Nvidia, which has made shattering Wall Street&#39;s expectations into something of a quarterly tradition over the past two years. The research firm thinks the stock is now trading close to its fair value after back-to-back years of triple-digit gains.</p><p>Tesla looks even more overvalued by Morningstar&#39;s value investing-focused metrics -- strategists think that at $426.50, the stock is trading at more than double its fair value.</p><p>The AI stocks Sekera is bullish on range from the well-established AI plays to a couple of unloved and under-the-radar names. Software developers  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft</a>  and  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ORCL\">Oracle</a>  and Google owner  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">Alphabet</a>  are all trading at a discount to their fair value, by Morningstar&#39;s metrics -- but those aren&#39;t exactly unheard-of picks to benefit from the AI surge.</p><p>Chip maker  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">Advanced Micro Devices</a>  has dropped 30% over the past year, but that selloff has made it another name that looks undervalued, according to Morningstar. Sekera told Barron&#39;s that the stock &#34;now trades too much to the downside,&#34; adding that he thinks for the long-term AMD will be &#34;the number two player behind Nvidia&#34; in providing graphics processing units and AI hardware.</p><p>A less well-known stock that Sekera&#39;s team likes is  <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CTSH\">Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp</a> , an S&amp;P 500-listed business consultancy that Morningstar thinks trades at an 18% discount to its fair value. Sekera said Cognizant was one of a number of companies set to benefit from using AI to improve productivity and efficiency in a bid to boost their margins.</p><p>&#34;We aren&#39;t bearish on AI -- we think a lot of stocks now have AI fully priced in, but there are still select pockets of undervaluation in the space,&#34; he told Barron&#39;s. 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Don't worry, a pivot away from obvious winners like  Tesla Motors  and  NVIDIA  is the solution.That's according to Morningstar's chief U.S. market strategist David Sekera, who believes investors will have to take a more selective approach to the theme in 2025.His view is based on the idea that Big Tech companies' capital expenditure levels can't carry on rising at such a fast pace, more than two years after the launch of OpenAI's ChatGPT kicked off an AI spending war.\"We're not going to see that explosive increase in demand of the past two years again,\" Sekera told Barron's. \"It will still increase, but we won't see anywhere near the same upside surprises in spending on AI hardware as this megatrend is better understood.\"That means Morningstar is more bearish than most on Nvidia, which has made shattering Wall Street's expectations into something of a quarterly tradition over the past two years. The research firm thinks the stock is now trading close to its fair value after back-to-back years of triple-digit gains.Tesla looks even more overvalued by Morningstar's value investing-focused metrics -- strategists think that at $426.50, the stock is trading at more than double its fair value.The AI stocks Sekera is bullish on range from the well-established AI plays to a couple of unloved and under-the-radar names. Software developers  Microsoft  and  Oracle  and Google owner  Alphabet  are all trading at a discount to their fair value, by Morningstar's metrics -- but those aren't exactly unheard-of picks to benefit from the AI surge.Chip maker  Advanced Micro Devices  has dropped 30% over the past year, but that selloff has made it another name that looks undervalued, according to Morningstar. Sekera told Barron's that the stock \"now trades too much to the downside,\" adding that he thinks for the long-term AMD will be \"the number two player behind Nvidia\" in providing graphics processing units and AI hardware.A less well-known stock that Sekera's team likes is  Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp , an S&P 500-listed business consultancy that Morningstar thinks trades at an 18% discount to its fair value. Sekera said Cognizant was one of a number of companies set to benefit from using AI to improve productivity and efficiency in a bid to boost their margins.\"We aren't bearish on AI -- we think a lot of stocks now have AI fully priced in, but there are still select pockets of undervaluation in the space,\" he told Barron's. 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They ranked the seven companies based on growth, sell-side sentiment, price momentum, valuation, yield, and more. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The best-rated stock according to this model is chip maker Nvidia, which has led returns among the Mag 7 since 2020. Google-parent Alphabet comes in second, followed by Facebook-parent Meta, and iPhone maker Apple. \n</p>\n<p>\n     While Nvidia ranks well across indicators, Alphabet stands out as the best anti-momentum value play, Peramunetilleke said. Tesla is the most volatile stock with extreme exposure to several factors. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the bottom is Microsoft, ranking particularly low on Research &amp; Development versus capital expenditure, price momentum, and growth and revisions. 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These Are the Ones to Buy, Say Analysts. -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 20:30</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Elsa Ohlen \n</p>\n<p>\n  Investors looking to buy or sell shares of the Magnificent Seven may want to consider selling Microsoft and buying Nvidia. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The so-called Magnificent Seven is the group of megacap stocks that has driven much of the stock market's gains over the past few years. It includes Nvidia, Meta, Amazon, Alphabet, Microsoft, Apple, and Tesla. \n</p>\n<p>\n     However, these $1 trillion+ companies have not all fared equally well, Jefferies analysts led by Desh Peramunetilleke pointed out in research released Friday. They ranked the seven companies based on growth, sell-side sentiment, price momentum, valuation, yield, and more. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The best-rated stock according to this model is chip maker Nvidia, which has led returns among the Mag 7 since 2020. Google-parent Alphabet comes in second, followed by Facebook-parent Meta, and iPhone maker Apple. \n</p>\n<p>\n     While Nvidia ranks well across indicators, Alphabet stands out as the best anti-momentum value play, Peramunetilleke said. Tesla is the most volatile stock with extreme exposure to several factors. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the bottom is Microsoft, ranking particularly low on Research &amp; Development versus capital expenditure, price momentum, and growth and revisions. Tesla and Amazon.com are rated as number six and five, respectively. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Since 2020, Mag 7 stocks are up by an average 640% versus about 100% for the S&amp;P 500 and now have a combined weight of 34% of the benchmark index, Peramunetilleke said. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Elsa Ohlen at elsa.ohlen@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 07:30 ET (12:30 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"2NVD.UK":"2X NVIDIA ETP","NVDA":"英伟达","MACW.SI":"APPLE 3xLongSG261006","META":"Meta Platforms, Inc.","LU2250418816.HKD":"BGF WORLD TECHNOLOGY \"A\" (HKD) ACC","GOOG":"谷歌","TSYW.SI":"TESLA 3xLongSG261006","LU2764263203.CNY":"BGF GLOBAL UNCONSTRAINED EQUITY \"A2\" (CNYHDG) ACC","LU1868837300.USD":"CT (LUX) I AMERICAN FUND \"9\" (USD) ACC","NVDS.UK":"LS -1X NVIDIA","LU1712237335.SGD":"Natixis Mirova Global Sustainable Equity H-R-NPF/A SGD","LU2023250504.SGD":"Allianz Thematica Cl AMg DIS H2-SGD","NVD":"GraniteShares 2x Short NVDA Daily ETF","LU0072461881.USD":"BGF US BASIC VALUE \"A2\" ACC","USJW.SI":"ALPHAB 3xLongSG261006","LU0130518102.USD":"HARRIS ASSOCIATES GLOBAL EQUITY \"R\" INC","LU2092937148.SGD":"Blackrock ESG Multi-Asset A8 SGD-H","IE00BKPKM429.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","MSFT":"微软","NVDD":"Direxion Daily NVDA Bear 1X Shares","AAPL":"苹果","SNVD.UK":"LS -1X NVIDIA","LU1188199696.SGD":"Schroder ISF Global Multi-Asset Income A Dis SGD","3NVD.UK":"LS 3X NVIDIA","LU2077746001.SGD":"Blackrock ESG Multi-Asset A2 SGD-H","LU0070302665.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2236285917.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL INCOME \"AMG\" (USD) INC","LU0683600562.USD":"AB SELECT US EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","NVDY":"YIELDMAX NVDA OPTION INCOME STRATEGY ETF","NVD2.UK":"2X NVIDIA ETP","NVD3.UK":"LS 3X NVIDIA","NVDS":"Tradr 1.5X Short NVDA Daily ETF","LU2404859667.USD":"FUNDSMITH EQUITY FUND \"R\" (USD) ACC","NVIW.SI":"NVDA 3xLongSG261006","XMAG":"Defiance Large Cap ex-Mag 7 ETF","GOOGL":"谷歌A","NVDU":"Direxion Daily NVDA Bull 2X Shares","LU1267930490.SGD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL EQUITY INCOME \"AS\" (SGD) INC A","LU0985489474.SGD":"First Eagle Amundi International AHS-C SGD-H","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU0095938881.EUR":"JPMorgan Investment Funds - Global Macro Opportunities A (acc) EUR","LU2111349929.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL SUSTAINABILITY \"AM\" (HKD) INC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU1206713676.USD":"Aviva Investors - Multi-Strategy Target Return Ah USD","TSLL":"Direxion Daily TSLA Bull 2X Shares","NVDX":"T-REX 2X LONG NVIDIA DAILY TARGET ETF","LU0345770993.USD":"NINETY ONE GSF GLOBAL STRATEGIC EQUITY \"A\" (USD) INC","LU2506951958.HKD":"BNP PARIBAS SUSTAINABLE GLOBAL LOW VOL EQUITY \"CRH\" (HKDHDG) INC","LU1496350502.SGD":"FRANKLIN DIVERSIFIED DYNAMIC \"A\" (SGDHDG) ACC"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2504525711","content_text":"By Elsa Ohlen \n\n\n  Investors looking to buy or sell shares of the Magnificent Seven may want to consider selling Microsoft and buying Nvidia. \n\n\n     The so-called Magnificent Seven is the group of megacap stocks that has driven much of the stock market's gains over the past few years. It includes Nvidia, Meta, Amazon, Alphabet, Microsoft, Apple, and Tesla. \n\n\n     However, these $1 trillion+ companies have not all fared equally well, Jefferies analysts led by Desh Peramunetilleke pointed out in research released Friday. They ranked the seven companies based on growth, sell-side sentiment, price momentum, valuation, yield, and more. \n\n\n     The best-rated stock according to this model is chip maker Nvidia, which has led returns among the Mag 7 since 2020. Google-parent Alphabet comes in second, followed by Facebook-parent Meta, and iPhone maker Apple. \n\n\n     While Nvidia ranks well across indicators, Alphabet stands out as the best anti-momentum value play, Peramunetilleke said. Tesla is the most volatile stock with extreme exposure to several factors. \n\n\n     At the bottom is Microsoft, ranking particularly low on Research & Development versus capital expenditure, price momentum, and growth and revisions. Tesla and Amazon.com are rated as number six and five, respectively. \n\n\n     Since 2020, Mag 7 stocks are up by an average 640% versus about 100% for the S&P 500 and now have a combined weight of 34% of the benchmark index, Peramunetilleke said. \n\n\n     Write to Elsa Ohlen at elsa.ohlen@barrons.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. 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Tesla posted third-quarter automotive gross profit margin of about 17%, excluding any regulatory credit sales, in the third quarter. And CEO Elon Musk is targeting 20% to 30% volume growth, helped partly by a new lower-priced model due early this year.In short, artificial intelligence, said Jonas. Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot.Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. 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Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla plans to launch a self-driving robotaxi service by the end of 2025. Musk also has suggested that robot sales could start this year. Having both happening are what can drive Tesla stock higher. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares already have had an impressive AI-fueled run. Coming into Friday, Tesla stock has risen more than 70% since the company's Oct. 10 Robotaxi event and have gained more than 60% since the Nov. 5 presidential election. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla's Robotaxi Day outlined the company's plans for a robotaxi service. What's more, investors expect the incoming Donald Trump administration to accelerate federal rule-making to encourage autonomous vehicle deployment. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares were up 0.9% at $417.40 in premarket trading, while S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures each rose about 0.4%. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. For Jonas, \"anything but cars\" makes some sense. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He values Tesla's self-driving-related technologies, including robotaxis, at $258 a share, Tesla's battery storage business at $66 a share, and expects Tesla to supply technology to other automakers eventually. That's worth $17 a share. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He doesn't have a value for humanoid robots. Jonas is waiting to see how the technology, supply chain, and costs develop. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas is at the higher end of analyst price targets. The average price target for Tesla shares is about $317, according to FactSet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     That's below where shares have been trading, but still values Tesla at $1 trillion, multiples of the combined value of many traditional auto makers. For most of Wall Street, it seems, Tesla is about more than cars. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Al Root at  allen.root@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 06:57 ET (11:57 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Investors Want to Talk About 'Anything but Cars' -- Barrons.com</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Investors Want to Talk About 'Anything but Cars' -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 19:57</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  Al Root \n</p>\n<p>\n  Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas hosted a bull/bear lunch in New York recently to discuss Tesla. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Investors wanted to talk about \"anything but cars.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     \"After establishing that consensus is expecting a 15%-type 4Q gross auto margin ... and 10% to 15% volume growth in 2025, there was extremely little discussion about the Tesla core auto business,\" wrote Jonas in a report Thursday. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Both things look doable. Tesla posted third-quarter automotive gross profit margin of about 17%, excluding any regulatory credit sales, in the third quarter. And CEO Elon Musk is targeting 20% to 30% volume growth, helped partly by a new lower-priced model due early this year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If cars don't matter for Tesla stock, then what does? In short, artificial intelligence, said Jonas. Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla plans to launch a self-driving robotaxi service by the end of 2025. Musk also has suggested that robot sales could start this year. Having both happening are what can drive Tesla stock higher. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares already have had an impressive AI-fueled run. Coming into Friday, Tesla stock has risen more than 70% since the company's Oct. 10 Robotaxi event and have gained more than 60% since the Nov. 5 presidential election. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla's Robotaxi Day outlined the company's plans for a robotaxi service. What's more, investors expect the incoming Donald Trump administration to accelerate federal rule-making to encourage autonomous vehicle deployment. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Shares were up 0.9% at $417.40 in premarket trading, while S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures each rose about 0.4%. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. For Jonas, \"anything but cars\" makes some sense. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He values Tesla's self-driving-related technologies, including robotaxis, at $258 a share, Tesla's battery storage business at $66 a share, and expects Tesla to supply technology to other automakers eventually. That's worth $17 a share. \n</p>\n<p>\n     He doesn't have a value for humanoid robots. Jonas is waiting to see how the technology, supply chain, and costs develop. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Jonas is at the higher end of analyst price targets. The average price target for Tesla shares is about $317, according to FactSet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     That's below where shares have been trading, but still values Tesla at $1 trillion, multiples of the combined value of many traditional auto makers. For most of Wall Street, it seems, Tesla is about more than cars. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Al Root at  allen.root@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 06:57 ET (11:57 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2504159750","content_text":"Al Root \n\n\n  Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas hosted a bull/bear lunch in New York recently to discuss Tesla. \n\n\n     Investors wanted to talk about \"anything but cars.\" \n\n\n     \"After establishing that consensus is expecting a 15%-type 4Q gross auto margin ... and 10% to 15% volume growth in 2025, there was extremely little discussion about the Tesla core auto business,\" wrote Jonas in a report Thursday. \n\n\n     Both things look doable. Tesla posted third-quarter automotive gross profit margin of about 17%, excluding any regulatory credit sales, in the third quarter. And CEO Elon Musk is targeting 20% to 30% volume growth, helped partly by a new lower-priced model due early this year. \n\n\n     If cars don't matter for Tesla stock, then what does? In short, artificial intelligence, said Jonas. Investors want to see AI-trained, self-driving Tesla cars on the road. They also want to see more development of Optimus, Tesla's AI-trained humanoid robot. \n\n\n     Tesla plans to launch a self-driving robotaxi service by the end of 2025. Musk also has suggested that robot sales could start this year. Having both happening are what can drive Tesla stock higher. \n\n\n     Shares already have had an impressive AI-fueled run. Coming into Friday, Tesla stock has risen more than 70% since the company's Oct. 10 Robotaxi event and have gained more than 60% since the Nov. 5 presidential election. \n\n\n     Tesla's Robotaxi Day outlined the company's plans for a robotaxi service. What's more, investors expect the incoming Donald Trump administration to accelerate federal rule-making to encourage autonomous vehicle deployment. \n\n\n     Shares were up 0.9% at $417.40 in premarket trading, while S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures each rose about 0.4%. \n\n\n     Jonas rates Tesla shares Buy and has a $430 price target on the stock. The car business only accounts for $89, or 21%, of his target price. For Jonas, \"anything but cars\" makes some sense. \n\n\n     He values Tesla's self-driving-related technologies, including robotaxis, at $258 a share, Tesla's battery storage business at $66 a share, and expects Tesla to supply technology to other automakers eventually. That's worth $17 a share. \n\n\n     He doesn't have a value for humanoid robots. Jonas is waiting to see how the technology, supply chain, and costs develop. \n\n\n     Jonas is at the higher end of analyst price targets. The average price target for Tesla shares is about $317, according to FactSet. \n\n\n     That's below where shares have been trading, but still values Tesla at $1 trillion, multiples of the combined value of many traditional auto makers. For most of Wall Street, it seems, Tesla is about more than cars. \n\n\n     Write to Al Root at  allen.root@dowjones.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n\n\n \n\n\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n\n\n  January 17, 2025 06:57 ET (11:57 GMT)\n\n\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":31,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":393533894762688,"gmtCreate":1737103882750,"gmtModify":1737106313642,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4109249043338710","authorIdStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Of course trump will not share with loser like u! So u can just FO","listText":"Of course trump will not share with loser like u! So u can just FO","text":"Of course trump will not share with loser like u! So u can just FO","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/393533894762688","repostId":"2504186337","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2504186337","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1737097200,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2504186337?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-17 15:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2504186337","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor.Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects.If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising.Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X , and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing.Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla ho","content":"<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Allan Sloan \n</p>\n<p>\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 15:00</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Allan Sloan \n</p>\n<p>\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. 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A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n\n\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n\n\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n\n\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n\n\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n\n\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n\n\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n\n\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n\n\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media & Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n\n\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n\n\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n\n\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n\n\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n\n\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n\n\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n\n\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n\n\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n\n\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n\n\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n\n\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. 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A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects.If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising.Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X , and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing.Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla ho","content":"<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Allan Sloan \n</p>\n<p>\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n</p>\n<pre>\n \n</pre>\n<p>\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n</p>\n<p>\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n</p>\n<p>\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones &amp; Company, Inc.\n</p>\n</font>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy the Trump-Musk Bromance Won't Last -- Barrons.com\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-01-17 15:00</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<font class=\"NormalMinus1\" face=\"Arial\">\n<p>\n  By Allan Sloan \n</p>\n<p>\n  This is commentary by  Allan Sloan, an independent business journalist and seven-time winner of the Loeb Award, business journalism's highest honor. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Elon Musk and Donald Trump, two of the biggest egotists in American public life, have been hanging out together for several months now. A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n</p>\n<p>\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n</p>\n<p>\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n</p>\n<p>\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media &amp; Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n</p>\n<p>\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n</p>\n<p>\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n</p>\n<p>\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n</p>\n<p>\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. 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A major result of this late-breaking mix is that Musk, who spent $277 million backing Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 campaign, is getting even more attention than in his pre-Trump days and has gotten tons of publicity by opining endlessly about a variety of subjects. \n\n\n     If you've watched Trump's behavior for years, as I have, the fact that his bromance with Musk is still going strong is more than a little surprising. \n\n\n     Trump doesn't like people sharing the spotlight with him, which Musk -- the dominant shareholder of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter), and various other companies, including SpaceX -- has clearly been doing. \n\n\n     This raises an obvious question. When, if ever, is the president-elect going to get tired of Musk benefiting from his Trump-amplified public profile and cut him off? \n\n\n     Sure, Musk spent a ton of money to help Trump get elected. But he has made megatons of money on his Tesla holdings since Trump's victory was announced. \n\n\n     At the market close on Election Day, Tesla was up 1.2% for the year. But between Election Day and the end of 2024, Tesla shares took off for the moon (no SpaceX rocket required). \n\n\n     Tesla rose more than 60% from Election Day through year end, accounting for $109 billion of the $111 billion that Musk's Tesla shares increased in value for the year. \n\n\n     So why isn't Trump cutting Musk off at the knees? \n\n\n     Let me offer a somewhat heretical thought. I think that a major reason for Trump being so nice to Musk -- the richest person in the world, according to the billionaires lists of Bloomberg and Forbes -- is that Musk could be the way for Trump to monetize his stake in Trump Media & Technology Group, the company that owns Trump's favorite social-media platform, Truth Social. \n\n\n     By rational financial standards, Trump Media -- whose ticker symbol is DJT, Donald John Trump's initials -- seems hugely overpriced. And Trump hasn't been selling any of his shares, which would doubtless crash the stock. \n\n\n     DJT, which reported revenue of $2.6 million (no, that is not a typo), an operating loss of $140.7 million, and a total loss of $363.2 million for the first nine months of last year, the most recent available numbers, had a stock market value of $8.8 billion when last I looked. That is $8.1 billion more than its cash on hand. \n\n\n     Trump's stake, 114.75 million shares, was worth about $4.7 billion. \n\n\n     Trump put those shares in a revocable trust in his son Don Jr.'s name in December, but the president-elect still owns them indirectly. \n\n\n     If Musk, whose net worth is estimated at $427 billion in the most recent Forbes Billionaires List and $450 billion in the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, paid $60 a share for DJT -- about 50% above the recent market price -- it would cost him $12.9 billion. That is barely a rounding error in his wealth. \n\n\n     It would also allow Musk to have control of both X, a hugely popular social-media outlet; and Truth Social, Trump's favored outlet. \n\n\n     When I emailed X and Tesla to ask for comment about my Musk-Trump thesis, I got no response. Trump Media didn't respond to my emails, either. \n\n\n     When I emailed Trump's transition team, Steven Cheung, a Trump spokesman, gave me a far more interesting response than the poop emojis Musk's companies sometimes send reporters: \"Stop taking mushrooms,\" he emailed me, \"they interfere with the tin foil hat affixed to your head.\" \n\n\n     Cheung is scheduled to become communications director at the White House. If my somewhat heretical Musk-Trump thesis proves to be accurate, I'll be sending some mushrooms and a tin foil hat to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. \n\n\n     Disclosure: I own one share of both Tesla and DJT to have guaranteed access to their shareholder reports. I'll donate to charity any profit that I realize on either stock. \n\n\n     Write to editors@barrons.com \n\n\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones & Co. Barron's is published independently from Dow Jones Newswires and The Wall Street Journal. \n\n\n \n\n\n  (END) Dow Jones Newswires\n\n\n  January 17, 2025 02:00 ET (07:00 GMT)\n\n\n  Copyright (c) 2025 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":127,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":393478528352648,"gmtCreate":1737101582180,"gmtModify":1737106314800,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4109249043338710","authorIdStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Trump does not like to share limelight...it depends on who he share with. No one will mind sharing with world richest man. Of coyrse he will kind sharing with YOU! 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While owning Tesla has been (mostly) a great decision over the long term, timing has often been critical.</p><p>The company has a lot of exciting projects involving its electric vehicles and artificial intelligence (AI), but I&#39;m remaining cautious as an investor for the time being. Below, I&#39;m going to break down why Jan. 20 could be a particularly important date for Tesla investors and whether the stock is a buy before then.</p><h2 id=\"id_729652995\">Examining Tesla&#39;s volatility</h2><p>Let&#39;s break down Tesla&#39;s stock performance in 2024.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/7a164a548fc542a4e2b6e2628c0ed540\" alt=\"Data by YCharts.\" title=\"Data by YCharts.\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"441\"/><span>Data by YCharts.</span></p><p>Between Jan. 1 and Nov. 4, 2024, Tesla stock was down 2.3% and trailing the <strong>S&amp;P 500</strong> by a wide margin. However, shares were actually down as much as 42.8% at one point during this period.</p><p>Following Donald Trump&#39;s victory in the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 5, Tesla stock found new life. Between Nov. 4 and Dec. 31, shares gained 66.3%, and the company reclaimed its position in the trillion-dollar club.</p><p>Tesla CEO Elon Musk emerged as a major Trump supporter during the final months on the campaign trail. Investors began to see the Trump-Musk alliance as a bullish indicator for Tesla.</p><p>While that may sound great for Musk and the company, look above at the stock&#39;s performance near the very end of the year, and you&#39;ll see Tesla began to sell off. Since Christmas Eve, shares are down 14.3% as of this writing.</p><p>Selling stocks at the end of the year is pretty common, especially for companies that have generated record gains over short periods. Moreover, Tesla recently published delivery and production figures for its electric vehicle operation for the fourth quarter, and they show that it missed Wall Street&#39;s expectations.</p><p>Although Tesla stock appears to be stuck in a downward trend, I wouldn&#39;t be surprised to see shares rebound as Jan. 20 inches closer. Let&#39;s dig into why.</p><h2 id=\"id_3429268122\">What is happening on Jan. 20?</h2><p>On Jan. 20, President-elect Donald Trump will be sworn into office. Given Musk&#39;s ties to the soon-to-be president, I would not be shocked in the slightest if Tesla stock starts to see an uptick.</p><p>Here&#39;s the reality: While Musk&#39;s relationship with Trump may bode well for Tesla -- especially as it relates to a friendlier regulatory environment for the company&#39;s autonomous driving ambitions -- any gains leading up to or immediately following the inauguration are driven by a narrative, not Tesla&#39;s fundamentals.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0e9a2668ed92a623a4c9b24b32400b1b\" alt=\"Image Source: Getty Images\" title=\"Image Source: Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"525\"/><span>Image Source: Getty Images</span></p><h2 id=\"id_1626200847\">Is Tesla stock a buy before then?</h2><p>Since the election, Tesla has fared much like a meme stock. Nothing about the company changed on Nov. 5. Nothing is going to change for it on Jan. 20, either. Investors don&#39;t know how the company&#39;s autonomous driving efforts will shake out or what regulatory changes the incoming administration will make in that area.</p><p>So if you&#39;re going to invest in Tesla stock right now, you should believe in the company&#39;s long-term vision for AI, self-driving cars, and robotics. If that&#39;s the case, it matters far less when you scoop up shares.</p><p>Otherwise, investing in momentum stocks like Tesla is usually risky. If you have a low tolerance for risk, you may want to steer clear.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Tesla Stock a Buy Before Jan. 20?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nIs Tesla Stock a Buy Before Jan. 20?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2025-01-16 16:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/01/15/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-before-jan-20/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>For most of 2024, Tesla stock was relatively flatHowever, following the presidential election in November, shares of Tesla rocketed to all-time highs.Given the close relationship CEO Elon Musk has ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/01/15/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-before-jan-20/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/01/15/is-tesla-stock-a-buy-before-jan-20/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2503609813","content_text":"For most of 2024, Tesla stock was relatively flatHowever, following the presidential election in November, shares of Tesla rocketed to all-time highs.Given the close relationship CEO Elon Musk has forged with President-elect Trump, Tesla investors may want to keep an eye on the stock as the inauguration nears.Tesla is one of the most volatile megacap tech stocks. While owning Tesla has been (mostly) a great decision over the long term, timing has often been critical.The company has a lot of exciting projects involving its electric vehicles and artificial intelligence (AI), but I'm remaining cautious as an investor for the time being. Below, I'm going to break down why Jan. 20 could be a particularly important date for Tesla investors and whether the stock is a buy before then.Examining Tesla's volatilityLet's break down Tesla's stock performance in 2024.Data by YCharts.Between Jan. 1 and Nov. 4, 2024, Tesla stock was down 2.3% and trailing the S&P 500 by a wide margin. However, shares were actually down as much as 42.8% at one point during this period.Following Donald Trump's victory in the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 5, Tesla stock found new life. Between Nov. 4 and Dec. 31, shares gained 66.3%, and the company reclaimed its position in the trillion-dollar club.Tesla CEO Elon Musk emerged as a major Trump supporter during the final months on the campaign trail. Investors began to see the Trump-Musk alliance as a bullish indicator for Tesla.While that may sound great for Musk and the company, look above at the stock's performance near the very end of the year, and you'll see Tesla began to sell off. Since Christmas Eve, shares are down 14.3% as of this writing.Selling stocks at the end of the year is pretty common, especially for companies that have generated record gains over short periods. Moreover, Tesla recently published delivery and production figures for its electric vehicle operation for the fourth quarter, and they show that it missed Wall Street's expectations.Although Tesla stock appears to be stuck in a downward trend, I wouldn't be surprised to see shares rebound as Jan. 20 inches closer. Let's dig into why.What is happening on Jan. 20?On Jan. 20, President-elect Donald Trump will be sworn into office. Given Musk's ties to the soon-to-be president, I would not be shocked in the slightest if Tesla stock starts to see an uptick.Here's the reality: While Musk's relationship with Trump may bode well for Tesla -- especially as it relates to a friendlier regulatory environment for the company's autonomous driving ambitions -- any gains leading up to or immediately following the inauguration are driven by a narrative, not Tesla's fundamentals.Image Source: Getty ImagesIs Tesla stock a buy before then?Since the election, Tesla has fared much like a meme stock. Nothing about the company changed on Nov. 5. Nothing is going to change for it on Jan. 20, either. Investors don't know how the company's autonomous driving efforts will shake out or what regulatory changes the incoming administration will make in that area.So if you're going to invest in Tesla stock right now, you should believe in the company's long-term vision for AI, self-driving cars, and robotics. If that's the case, it matters far less when you scoop up shares.Otherwise, investing in momentum stocks like Tesla is usually risky. If you have a low tolerance for risk, you may want to steer clear.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":279,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":392945369686264,"gmtCreate":1736958562586,"gmtModify":1736959720191,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4109249043338710","authorIdStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another sour grape......FO","listText":"Another sour grape......FO","text":"Another sour grape......FO","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/392945369686264","repostId":"2503629410","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":83,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":392265773699488,"gmtCreate":1736812202129,"gmtModify":1736818897590,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4109249043338710","authorIdStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another sour grape","listText":"Another sour grape","text":"Another sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/392265773699488","repostId":"2503317552","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2503317552","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1736808784,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2503317552?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-14 06:53","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Elon Musk misrepresents data that shows Tesla is still years away from unsupervised self-driving","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2503317552","media":"Electrek","summary":"Elon Musk is praising data that he claims shows Tesla is on the verge of achieving unsupervised Full Self-Driving, when in fact, it shows it is still years away and he is misrepresenting it.","content":"<html><body><div>\n<figure>\n<img decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\" height=\"792\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;w=1600\" srcset=\"https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=320&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 320w, https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=640&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 640w, https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=1024&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/08/Tesla-Full-Self-Driving-Beta-Hero.jpg?w=1500&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 1500w\" width=\"1600\"/></figure>\n<p>Elon Musk is praising data that he claims shows Tesla is on the verge of achieving unsupervised Full Self-Driving, when in fact, it shows it is still years away and he is misrepresenting it.</p>\n<span></span>\n<p>It’s hard to take Musk seriously when it comes to self-driving timelines because he has been so consistently wrong for years. </p>\n<p>Some argue that you can’t hold that against him, even though he uses his claims to sell cars and sell “Full Self-Driving” packages for up to $15,000, because it is such a difficult and important thing to achieve.</p>\n<p>Even if you agree with this argument, there are clear problems with Musk’s claims regarding Tesla’s progress and timelines toward unsupervised self-driving. </p>\n<p>The biggest one is data. </p>\n<p>Tesla has consistently refused to share any data regarding its self-driving progress. That’s despite more recently starting to use “miles between necessary disengagement”, sometimes called “miles between critical disengagement”, as a metric to track progress and claiming x multiplicators in miles between critical disengagement in recent updates without any actual data to back it up.</p>\n<p>A recent example was Musk hyping Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) software updates 12.4 and 12.5 by claiming they will be able to drive “5 to 10x more miles per intervention“.</p>\n<p>Again, Tesla never released any data to back this up, but we have some crowdsourced data that pointed to FSD 12.5 achieving 183 miles (all versions combined excluding testers with fewer than 50 miles) between critical disengagement. Musk never specified the “5 to 10x” improvement was compared to what version, but if we compared it against the last update, FSD 12.3, miles between critical disengagement went down from 228 miles.</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"560\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1992px) 100vw, 1992px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?w=1024\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png 1992w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=150,42 150w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=300,84 300w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=768,216 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=1024,288 1024w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=1536,432 1536w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=350,98 350w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=140,39 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.20.21 PM.png?resize=1600,450 1600w\" width=\"1992\"/></figure>\n<p>There are no prior versions of Tesla FSD over the last 3 years that would add up to a 3x improvement in miles between critical disengagement. We can forget about “5 to 10x.”</p>\n<p>Now, Tesla has upgraded to FSD v13 and Musk again claims that it will “blow people’s mind.”</p>\n<p>The automaker claimed that v13 would bring “5 to 6x improved miles between necessary interventions” compared to v12.5.</p>\n<p>That means that Tesla anticipated FSD v13 to achieve between 915 and 1,098 miles between critical disengagement based on the crowdsourced data.</p>\n<p>Currently, after over 8,000 miles of crowdsourced data, FSD v13 is at 493 miles between critical disengagement:</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"556\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1998px) 100vw, 1998px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?w=1024\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png 1998w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=150,42 150w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=300,83 300w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=768,214 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=1024,285 1024w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=1536,427 1536w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=350,97 350w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=140,39 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.24.47 PM.png?resize=1600,445 1600w\" width=\"1998\"/></figure>\n<p>That’s a 2.7x improvement. It’s significant, but it is also a significant miss compared to what Tesla predicted.</p>\n<p>Now, Elon and Tesla fans like to claim that this crowdsourced data is flawed and that Tesla FSD is actually performing better. </p>\n<p>The data is indeed limited, but it is the best we have by far since Tesla refuses to share its own data. I have often fought against this accusation both because it is undoubtedly the best data available and because Elon Musk himself referred to this specific crowdsourced data in the past.</p>\n<p>Now, he has done it again and he did it to claim “exponential improvement” in Tesla’s FSD performance, but it is grossly misleading:</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"1432\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1184px) 100vw, 1184px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?w=847\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png 1184w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=124,150 124w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=248,300 248w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=768,929 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=847,1024 847w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=289,350 289w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=140,169 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=827,1000 827w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-4.42.39 PM.png?resize=150,181 150w\" width=\"1184\"/></figure>\n<p>This data only refers to highway miles and Tesla has been operating the same highway stack for years. The city driving software stack is different and based on “end-to-end neural nets”. The automaker kept promising to update it, but it barely ever did – leading to the stagnation you see in this chart.</p>\n<p>Tesla worked on this update for years, but it actually wasn’t released in v13. It came in v12.5.6.1. If we take all the v12 updates after this one, the average on highway was already 393 miles:</p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" height=\"558\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1992px) 100vw, 1992px\" src=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?w=1024\" srcset=\"https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png 1992w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=150,42 150w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=300,84 300w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=768,215 768w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=1024,287 1024w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=1536,430 1536w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=350,98 350w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=140,39 140w, https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2025/01/Screenshot-2025-01-13-at-5.34.35 PM.png?resize=1600,448 1600w\" width=\"1992\"/></figure>\n<p>This is no indication of “exponential improvement”. It is merely Tesla finally releasing a long overdue update to its highway software stack after working on the city software stack for the past 2 years.</p>\n<p>Furthermore, if we can take this acknowledgment from Musk that this data is representative of Tesla FSD performance, which should be the case otherwise it would be greatly misleading for him to share it, it shows that Tesla is still years away from achieving unsupervised self-driving despite Musk saying it will happen in “q2 2025”, which is months away.</p>\n<p>Ashok Elluswamy, the head of FSD at Tesla, has previously stated that for Tesla to enable unsupervised self-driving, Tesla needs to achieve the average in miles per critical intervention “equivalent of human miles between collision,” which stands at 670,000 miles, according to NHTSA.</p>\n<p>Therefore, based on this data shared by Musk, Tesla needs to go from 493 miles between disengegament to 670,000 miles between disengagement within the next 5 months.</p>\n<h2>Electrek’s Take</h2>\n<p>I’m no hater. I’m a realist. Without patting myself too much on the back, you have to give me some credit for predicting this with v13. After Tesla’s AI team released the planned improvements coming with v13, I reported that I could see it achieve close to “690 to 828 miles between critical disengagement.”</p>\n<p>But then I reported that v13 would result in improvements but come short of that goal after v13 was delayed by a few months and then released with a somewhat dumb-down version.</p>\n<p>Now, it ends up at 493 miles between disengagement. It makes sense. It is an impressive improvement, but it is also far short of what Tesla said would happen and still hundreds of thousands of miles away from what Tesla itself said it needs to be to achieve unsupervised self-driving.</p>\n<p>Not only that, but Elon is now misrepresenting the data to claim Tesla has achieved exponential growth without no evidence whatsoever.</p>\n<p>He is purposely only looking at highway data, which is misleading because the stack was barely updated for years. </p>\n<p>I think it’s clear that Elon either lies about self-driving or he has no idea what he is talking about, which somehow doesn’t stop him from confidently making statements that happen to help Tesla sell cars. It’s not suspicious at all.</p>\n<p>Again, I liked to point out that I believe that if Tesla was developing FSD in a vacuum without Elon Musk making claims about Tesla achieving unsupervised self-driving on x timeline, making “Tesla vehicles appreciating assets”, and then using this to sell cars and $15,000 self-driving packages, I think that Tesla’s FSd development would be celebrated.</p>\n<p>Instead, it is vastly seen as a fraud by many people. That’s Elon Musk’s fault.</p>\n</div></body></html>","source":"electrek_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Elon Musk misrepresents data that shows Tesla is still years away from unsupervised self-driving</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ 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verge of achieving unsupervised Full Self-Driving, when in fact, it shows it is still years away and he is misrepresenting it.\n\nIt’s hard to take Musk seriously when it comes to self-driving timelines because he has been so consistently wrong for years. \nSome argue that you can’t hold that against him, even though he uses his claims to sell cars and sell “Full Self-Driving” packages for up to $15,000, because it is such a difficult and important thing to achieve.\nEven if you agree with this argument, there are clear problems with Musk’s claims regarding Tesla’s progress and timelines toward unsupervised self-driving. \nThe biggest one is data. \nTesla has consistently refused to share any data regarding its self-driving progress. That’s despite more recently starting to use “miles between necessary disengagement”, sometimes called “miles between critical disengagement”, as a metric to track progress and claiming x multiplicators in miles between critical disengagement in recent updates without any actual data to back it up.\nA recent example was Musk hyping Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) software updates 12.4 and 12.5 by claiming they will be able to drive “5 to 10x more miles per intervention“.\nAgain, Tesla never released any data to back this up, but we have some crowdsourced data that pointed to FSD 12.5 achieving 183 miles (all versions combined excluding testers with fewer than 50 miles) between critical disengagement. Musk never specified the “5 to 10x” improvement was compared to what version, but if we compared it against the last update, FSD 12.3, miles between critical disengagement went down from 228 miles.\n\nThere are no prior versions of Tesla FSD over the last 3 years that would add up to a 3x improvement in miles between critical disengagement. We can forget about “5 to 10x.”\nNow, Tesla has upgraded to FSD v13 and Musk again claims that it will “blow people’s mind.”\nThe automaker claimed that v13 would bring “5 to 6x improved miles between necessary interventions” compared to v12.5.\nThat means that Tesla anticipated FSD v13 to achieve between 915 and 1,098 miles between critical disengagement based on the crowdsourced data.\nCurrently, after over 8,000 miles of crowdsourced data, FSD v13 is at 493 miles between critical disengagement:\n\nThat’s a 2.7x improvement. It’s significant, but it is also a significant miss compared to what Tesla predicted.\nNow, Elon and Tesla fans like to claim that this crowdsourced data is flawed and that Tesla FSD is actually performing better. \nThe data is indeed limited, but it is the best we have by far since Tesla refuses to share its own data. I have often fought against this accusation both because it is undoubtedly the best data available and because Elon Musk himself referred to this specific crowdsourced data in the past.\nNow, he has done it again and he did it to claim “exponential improvement” in Tesla’s FSD performance, but it is grossly misleading:\n\nThis data only refers to highway miles and Tesla has been operating the same highway stack for years. The city driving software stack is different and based on “end-to-end neural nets”. The automaker kept promising to update it, but it barely ever did – leading to the stagnation you see in this chart.\nTesla worked on this update for years, but it actually wasn’t released in v13. It came in v12.5.6.1. If we take all the v12 updates after this one, the average on highway was already 393 miles:\n\nThis is no indication of “exponential improvement”. It is merely Tesla finally releasing a long overdue update to its highway software stack after working on the city software stack for the past 2 years.\nFurthermore, if we can take this acknowledgment from Musk that this data is representative of Tesla FSD performance, which should be the case otherwise it would be greatly misleading for him to share it, it shows that Tesla is still years away from achieving unsupervised self-driving despite Musk saying it will happen in “q2 2025”, which is months away.\nAshok Elluswamy, the head of FSD at Tesla, has previously stated that for Tesla to enable unsupervised self-driving, Tesla needs to achieve the average in miles per critical intervention “equivalent of human miles between collision,” which stands at 670,000 miles, according to NHTSA.\nTherefore, based on this data shared by Musk, Tesla needs to go from 493 miles between disengegament to 670,000 miles between disengagement within the next 5 months.\nElectrek’s Take\nI’m no hater. I’m a realist. Without patting myself too much on the back, you have to give me some credit for predicting this with v13. After Tesla’s AI team released the planned improvements coming with v13, I reported that I could see it achieve close to “690 to 828 miles between critical disengagement.”\nBut then I reported that v13 would result in improvements but come short of that goal after v13 was delayed by a few months and then released with a somewhat dumb-down version.\nNow, it ends up at 493 miles between disengagement. It makes sense. It is an impressive improvement, but it is also far short of what Tesla said would happen and still hundreds of thousands of miles away from what Tesla itself said it needs to be to achieve unsupervised self-driving.\nNot only that, but Elon is now misrepresenting the data to claim Tesla has achieved exponential growth without no evidence whatsoever.\nHe is purposely only looking at highway data, which is misleading because the stack was barely updated for years. \nI think it’s clear that Elon either lies about self-driving or he has no idea what he is talking about, which somehow doesn’t stop him from confidently making statements that happen to help Tesla sell cars. It’s not suspicious at all.\nAgain, I liked to point out that I believe that if Tesla was developing FSD in a vacuum without Elon Musk making claims about Tesla achieving unsupervised self-driving on x timeline, making “Tesla vehicles appreciating assets”, and then using this to sell cars and $15,000 self-driving packages, I think that Tesla’s FSd development would be celebrated.\nInstead, it is vastly seen as a fraud by many people. That’s Elon Musk’s fault.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":55,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":391781489123768,"gmtCreate":1736682253180,"gmtModify":1736686026868,"author":{"id":"4109249043338710","authorId":"4109249043338710","name":"ARTOTLE","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/6860a85d94cbf481e7013b59d23cb50f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4109249043338710","authorIdStr":"4109249043338710"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Another F sour grape","listText":"Another F sour grape","text":"Another F sour grape","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/391781489123768","repostId":"2502363032","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2502363032","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1736679926,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2502363032?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-01-12 19:05","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Bernstein Reaffirms Their Sell Rating on Tesla (TSLA)","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2502363032","media":"TIPRANKS","summary":"Bernstein analyst Neil Beveridge maintained a Sell rating on Tesla (TSLA – Research Report) on January 8 and set a price target of $120.00. 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It's a good thing for growth, but it isn't enough to get investors to where they want to go.The electric-vehicle maker launched an updated version of its Model Y crossover vehicle in China. \"Looks very nice,\" said Future Fund Active ETF co-founder and Tesla shareholder Gary Black.The front includes a thin strip of lights, like those on a Cybertruck. \"The vehicle has been redesigned to maximize efficiency and use each degree of electricity more effectively,\" reads Tesla's China website.Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. Through September, Tesla sold about 132,000 Model 3 sedans in the U.S. last year, down about 21% year over year.The Model 3 underperformed the overall EV market by about 30 percentage points. That is actually better than the performance in 2023. 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They don't always lead to big sales gains. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. Through September, Tesla sold about 132,000 Model 3 sedans in the U.S. last year, down about 21% year over year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The Model 3 underperformed the overall EV market by about 30 percentage points. That is actually better than the performance in 2023. Model 3 sales grew 4% year over year, but the U.S. EV market grew 46%, for an underperformance of roughly 42 percentage points. \n</p>\n<p>\n     All that means the update to the Model 3 helped, but wasn't a magic bullet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     In 2024, Tesla's overall sales were down about 5% year over year through September. Model Y sales dropped 4%, but Cybertruck sales helped growth. Tesla sold about 28,000 Cybertrucks to Americans in the first nine months of the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     As for 2025, investors are looking for Tesla to grow EV volumes by 20% to 30%. That is the goal CEO Elon Musk set on his company's third-quarter earnings conference call. That means about 2.3 million vehicles, up from about 1.8 million delivered in 2024. \n</p>\n<p>\n     An updated version of the Y, one of the best-selling cars on the planet, will help. But the Y alone won't get Tesla to its growth goals. The company is also expected to launch a lower-priced vehicle in early 2025. It should start at or below $30,000 and open up more of the car market to the EV maker. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Investors shouldn't forget that Tesla is no longer all about cars. Investors are most optimistic about artificial intelligence. Tesla plans to launch an AI-trained robotaxi service in late 2025. Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 65% since the company's Oct. 10 robotaxi event, adding some $550 billion in market value. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla stock was down 0.9% in premarket trading at $391.43, while futures on the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average were down 1.1% and 1%, respectively. Futures fell after labor market data for December was better than expected, making it a little less likely the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates rapidly. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Write to Al Root at allen.root@dowjones.com \n</p>\n<p>\n     This content was created by Barron's, which is operated by Dow Jones &amp; Co. 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It's a good thing for growth, but it isn't enough to get investors to where they want to go. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The electric-vehicle maker launched an updated version of its Model Y crossover vehicle in China. \"Looks very nice,\" said Future Fund Active ETF co-founder and Tesla shareholder Gary Black. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The front includes a thin strip of lights, like those on a Cybertruck. \"The vehicle has been redesigned to maximize efficiency and use each degree of electricity more effectively,\" reads Tesla's China website. \n</p>\n<p>\n     While updates and redesigned models are a common way for car companies to boost sales, they are the bare minimum auto makers need to do to maintain their brands and market share. They don't always lead to big sales gains. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. Through September, Tesla sold about 132,000 Model 3 sedans in the U.S. last year, down about 21% year over year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     The Model 3 underperformed the overall EV market by about 30 percentage points. That is actually better than the performance in 2023. Model 3 sales grew 4% year over year, but the U.S. EV market grew 46%, for an underperformance of roughly 42 percentage points. \n</p>\n<p>\n     All that means the update to the Model 3 helped, but wasn't a magic bullet. \n</p>\n<p>\n     In 2024, Tesla's overall sales were down about 5% year over year through September. Model Y sales dropped 4%, but Cybertruck sales helped growth. Tesla sold about 28,000 Cybertrucks to Americans in the first nine months of the year. \n</p>\n<p>\n     As for 2025, investors are looking for Tesla to grow EV volumes by 20% to 30%. That is the goal CEO Elon Musk set on his company's third-quarter earnings conference call. That means about 2.3 million vehicles, up from about 1.8 million delivered in 2024. \n</p>\n<p>\n     An updated version of the Y, one of the best-selling cars on the planet, will help. But the Y alone won't get Tesla to its growth goals. The company is also expected to launch a lower-priced vehicle in early 2025. It should start at or below $30,000 and open up more of the car market to the EV maker. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Investors shouldn't forget that Tesla is no longer all about cars. Investors are most optimistic about artificial intelligence. Tesla plans to launch an AI-trained robotaxi service in late 2025. Coming into Friday trading, Tesla stock was up about 65% since the company's Oct. 10 robotaxi event, adding some $550 billion in market value. \n</p>\n<p>\n     Tesla stock was down 0.9% in premarket trading at $391.43, while futures on the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average were down 1.1% and 1%, respectively. 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It's a good thing for growth, but it isn't enough to get investors to where they want to go. \n\n\n     The electric-vehicle maker launched an updated version of its Model Y crossover vehicle in China. \"Looks very nice,\" said Future Fund Active ETF co-founder and Tesla shareholder Gary Black. \n\n\n     The front includes a thin strip of lights, like those on a Cybertruck. \"The vehicle has been redesigned to maximize efficiency and use each degree of electricity more effectively,\" reads Tesla's China website. \n\n\n     While updates and redesigned models are a common way for car companies to boost sales, they are the bare minimum auto makers need to do to maintain their brands and market share. They don't always lead to big sales gains. \n\n\n     Tesla launched an updated version of its Model 3 sedan in the U.S. in e arly 2024. That didn't arrest sales declines. 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