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Li Xiang, Zhou Hongyi and Shen Hui spoke one after another. On August 12th, Lin Wenqin, the founder of Meiyihao, drove Nio ES8 to enable the autonomous driving function, and unfortunately died in a traffic accident. It not only puts Nio in the maelstrom of public opinion, but also triggers discussions about assisted driving and autonomous driving. The obituary issued by Meiyihao shows that Lin Wenqin died after a traffic accident in the Hanjiang section of Shenhai Expressway after driving a Nio ES8 car with the autonomous driving function (NOP pilot status) enabled. 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As of 16:13 Beijing time,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">Li Auto</a>(LI.US) up 2.39%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">XPeng Motors</a>(XPEV.US) up 2.17%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>(NIO.US) up 1.71%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>(TSLA.US) rose 0.59%.</p><p>Recently, Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives published a research report saying that its \"green wave\" theory is still in play, and it is expected that electric vehicles will account for 10% of total car sales by 2025, and will rise to 20% by 2030.</p><p>Separately, Fitch believes that the application of electric vehicles in the United States will continue to lag behind China and some European countries, because the sales targets and incentives for electric vehicles in these regions are more sophisticated than those set in the United States. 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As of 16:13 Beijing time,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">Li Auto</a>(LI.US) up 2.39%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">XPeng Motors</a>(XPEV.US) up 2.17%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>(NIO.US) up 1.71%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>(TSLA.US) rose 0.59%.</p><p>Recently, Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives published a research report saying that its \"green wave\" theory is still in play, and it is expected that electric vehicles will account for 10% of total car sales by 2025, and will rise to 20% by 2030.</p><p>Separately, Fitch believes that the application of electric vehicles in the United States will continue to lag behind China and some European countries, because the sales targets and incentives for electric vehicles in these regions are more sophisticated than those set in the United States. 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Li Xiang, Zhou Hongyi and Shen Hui spoke one after another. On August 12th, Lin Wenqin, the founder of Meiyihao, drove Nio ES8 to enable the autonomous driving function, and unfortunately died in a traffic accident. It not only puts Nio in the maelstrom of public opinion, but also triggers discussions about assisted driving and autonomous driving. The obituary issued by Meiyihao shows that Lin Wenqin died after a traffic accident in the Hanjiang section of Shenhai Expressway after driving a Nio ES8 car with the autonomous driving function (NOP pilot status) enabled. The implication is that Meiyihao believes that the accident is related to Nio Autopilot (NOP...</p><p><a href=\"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN202108191123127d507eb6&s=b\">Web link</a></div></p>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Nio \"autonomous driving\" incident caused controversy, Li Xiang, Zhou Hongyi and Shen Hui spoke one after another</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNio \"autonomous driving\" incident caused controversy, Li Xiang, Zhou Hongyi and Shen Hui spoke one after another\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">界面新闻</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-19 11:04</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><div>Original title: The \"autonomous driving\" incident in Nio caused controversy. Li Xiang, Zhou Hongyi and Shen Hui spoke one after another. On August 12th, Lin Wenqin, the founder of Meiyihao, drove Nio ES8 to enable the autonomous driving function, and unfortunately died in a traffic accident. It not only puts Nio in the maelstrom of public opinion, but also triggers discussions about assisted driving and autonomous driving. The obituary issued by Meiyihao shows that Lin Wenqin died after a traffic accident in the Hanjiang section of Shenhai Expressway after driving a Nio ES8 car with the autonomous driving function (NOP pilot status) enabled. The implication is that Meiyihao believes that the accident is related to Nio Autopilot (NOP...</p><p><a href=\"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN202108191123127d507eb6&s=b\">Web link</a></div></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> source：<a href=\"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN202108191123127d507eb6&s=b\">界面新闻</a></p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1e9aa56586a03fdd6464e21bfe99f7b5","relate_stocks":{"02015":"理想汽车-W","NIO":"蔚来","LI":"理想汽车","03601":"鲁大师"},"source_url":"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN202108191123127d507eb6&s=b","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/9a95c1376e76363c1401fee7d3717173","article_id":"2160517887","content_text":"原标题：蔚来“自动驾驶”事件引起争议，李想、周鸿祎、沈晖接连发声8月12日，美一好创始人林文钦驾驶蔚来ES8启用自动驾驶功能后，发生交通事故，不幸逝世。不仅使蔚来处于舆论漩涡，也引发外界对辅助驾驶与自动驾驶的讨论。美一好发出的讣告显示，林文钦在驾驶蔚来ES8汽车启用自动驾驶功能（NOP领航状态）后，在沈海高速涵江段发生交通事故后逝世。言下之意是，美一好方面认为，此次事故与蔚来自动驾驶功能（NOP领航状态）有关。林文钦好友林伟伟也表示，“林文钦认为自动驾驶是电动车和油车的区别，自动驾驶是他买这辆车的核心。”林伟伟透露，林文钦在购买蔚来前多次向蔚来销售人员询问自动驾驶，但蔚来销售人员均未正面回答，而是分享最近销售记录，并炫耀“中午定了好多台”。对此，蔚来方面人士回应称，NOP领航辅助并不是自动驾驶，后续有结果，将会向外界同步信息。我也注意到，蔚来方面曾多次声明，NOP领航辅助不等于自动驾驶。比如，去年蔚来自动辅助驾驶负责人章健勇在《领航辅助（NOP）使用指南》一文中写道，“大家绝对不能把NOP等同于自动驾驶。NOP仍然是一种辅助驾驶功能，且随时可能在无法满足工作条件的情况下退出。”说白了，NOP领航辅助并不等于自动驾驶，尚未没有达到自动驾驶应该具备的功能，只能作为一种辅助功能使用，离自动驾驶还很远。但怪就怪在，蔚来在宣传时，使用户容易产生这就是自动驾驶的错觉，似乎有误导用户的嫌疑。换言之，目前自动驾驶还不成熟，用户对于如何使用智能驾驶、受到哪些限制，往往不能正确、全面理解，汽车厂商在大肆宣传不成熟的自动驾驶功能时，无形中让用户对汽车功能产生误解。而一旦产生误解，代价可能就是宝贵的生命，决定汽车厂商必须慎之又慎，不能只顾商业利益，而对用户生命缺乏足够的敬畏。事实上，目前市场上销售的量产车型中，最高级别仅能做到L2。当然，有部分车企在宣传上有意打擦边球，将自身驾驶辅助功能定义为L2.5甚至L2.9，但至今没有任何一家车企公开宣布量产车已达到L3级别。一个重要的原因在于，由L2到L3是自动驾驶技术研发道路上风险最大的一次跃升，目前车企在技术上无法做到100%保险。因此，在自动驾驶尚未完全成熟的情况下，过度依赖自动驾驶是有风险的，用户应对自动驾驶潜在风险保持清醒的认识，并具备主动学习和安全相关的交通意识。同时，针对自动驾驶，汽车厂商要理性宣传，而不是过度宣传，提前且充分告知用户相关风险，避免让用户陷入认知误区。鉴于蔚来是造车新势力头部玩家，发生伤亡事故后，顿时引发行业热议。理想汽车掌门人李想在朋友圈发文，呼吁媒体和行业机构统一自动驾驶的中文名词标准，避免夸张地宣传造成用户使用的误解。“L2、L3什么的用户听不懂，建议统一名称：L2=辅助驾驶；L3=自动辅助驾驶；L4=自动驾驶；L5=无人驾驶。一个多余的中文字也不要有，避免夸张地宣传造成用户使用的误解。在推广上克制，在技术上投入，对用户、行业、企业都长期有利。”李想说道。他的建议得到哪吒汽车投资人、360掌门人周鸿祎的高度认可，“人工智能不是营销话术，没有那么神奇，自动驾驶无人驾驶还有很多路要走很多坑要填，不能为了营销误导用户。L2到L5都是行业黑话自娱自乐，应该变成普通用户可以望文生义的简单概念。”威马汽车掌门人沈晖则表示，L2级别辅助驾驶功能，驾驶员是功能操作主体，也是责任主体；L4以上级别自动驾驶功能，车内无人状态下，操作主体是车辆本身，责任主体当归属主机厂。尽管该事件引发外界对自动驾驶的质疑，甚至业内出现取消自动驾驶的声音，但他坚信自动驾驶的前景光明。沈晖表示，在通往自动驾驶的路上，或许会因为种种黑天鹅时刻而暂缓，但再多荆棘都只会是插曲，对于方向的探索和技术的研发永远不会停止，也不应该停止。就像蒸汽汽车会战胜四轮马拉的驿车一样，历史的车轮永远向前。他直言，没人在现阶段有能力做到全场景自动驾驶，包括威马。技术瓶颈就像暗疾，更早暴露是件好事，在技术方案不成熟之前可以趁早找到替代预案，没什么能够凌驾生命之上。“在尊重生命的根本原则之上，我们需要那些激进的技术先锋者，去创新、去实践、去变革。”我认同沈晖的观点，自动驾驶大势所趋，不会因为一两起事故就中断甚至停止，伤亡事故的发生固然不幸，但会促使汽车厂商审视、反思自身的技术缺陷，从而不断优化、迭代、完善技术，带来更安全、更便捷的驾驶体验。当自动驾驶越来越安全，本身就是尊重生命的体现，只不过这条路注定道阻且长。换言之，发生悲剧后，别对自动驾驶因噎废食，请不要失去对新技术的信心与善意，多给予一些“发芽开花”的时间，让自动驾驶来证明自己。做个小调查：你是否看好自动驾驶的未来？责任编辑：王翔","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"02015":1,"03601":1,"NIO":1,"LI":1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2429,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":831983839,"gmtCreate":1629279643821,"gmtModify":1676529989235,"author":{"id":"3579230207821175","authorId":"3579230207821175","name":"丛郁","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3579230207821175","idStr":"3579230207821175"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"666","listText":"666","text":"666","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/831983839","repostId":"2160700780","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2160700780","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1629274391,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2160700780?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-08-18 16:13","market":"hk","language":"zh","title":"U.S. stocks moved | New energy vehicle stocks rose before the market, LI Auto (LI.US) rose more than 2%","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2160700780","media":"智通财经","summary":"智通财经APP获悉，8月18日(周三)美股盘前，新能源汽车板块上涨。截至北京时间16:13，理想汽车涨2.39%；小鹏汽车涨2.17%；蔚来涨1.71%；特斯拉涨0.59%。近期，Wedbush Securities分析师Dan Ives发表研报表示，其“绿色浪潮”理论仍在发挥作用，预计到2025年电动汽车将占汽车总销量的10%，到2030年将上升至20%。预计电动汽车的利润率最早可能在2025年开始接近燃油汽车的利润率。","content":"<p><html><body>Zhitong Finance APP was informed that the new energy vehicle sector rose before the US stock market opened on August 18th (Wednesday). As of 16:13 Beijing time,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">Li Auto</a>(LI.US) up 2.39%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">XPeng Motors</a>(XPEV.US) up 2.17%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>(NIO.US) up 1.71%;<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>(TSLA.US) rose 0.59%.</p><p>Recently, Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives published a research report saying that its \"green wave\" theory is still in play, and it is expected that electric vehicles will account for 10% of total car sales by 2025, and will rise to 20% by 2030.</p><p>Separately, Fitch believes that the application of electric vehicles in the United States will continue to lag behind China and some European countries, because the sales targets and incentives for electric vehicles in these regions are more sophisticated than those set in the United States. 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