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Why China Startup DeepSeek Could Spell Trouble For Nvidia, AI Stocks

"Startups OpenAI and Anthropic have been battling Google, Meta and others in developing large, multimodal and small language foundation models.Further, DeepSeek reportedly spent only $5.6 million over two months to develop its latest AI model, noted economist Ed Yardeni in a report.Meanwhile, DeepSeek's success could weigh on U.S. earnings reports, Yardeni said, amid enormous capital spending increases by Google, Meta, Microsoft and others. Microsoft is the biggest investor in OpenAI."This migh

Why China Startup DeepSeek Could Spell Trouble For Nvidia, AI Stocks

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