📊🧮⚖️ Large Caps Have Never Looked Less Attractive: $SPX ⚠️🧯🔎

$S&P 500(.SPX)$ $ISHARES S&P MID-CAP ETF/AUS(IJH.AU)$ $Invesco S&P 500 Equal Weight ETF(RSP)$

I’m keeping this simple. The spread in forward P/E between U.S. large caps and SMID caps has blown out again. As of 26Sep25, the S&P 500 sits near 22.5× forward earnings while the S&P 400 and S&P 600 are nearer 17.1× and 16.6×. That’s a double-digit multiple premium for size rather than for quality. The Yardeni-style chart makes it obvious; large caps have rerated while SMID has not.

🧩 Why that matters

The JPM data frames it perfectly: the 30-year average forward P/E is 17.0×. Today’s 22.5× means investors are paying a 30%+ premium to history. Add in a CAPE ratio of 38.9× vs a 28.3× average, and we’re back in territory last seen before major market drawdowns. Earnings yield at 4.4% is barely above the 10-year Treasury; the equity risk premium is negative, which makes the asymmetry ugly.

🧠 Historical context that bites

We’ve been here before. When the market was this stretched in 1999 and again in 2021, forward returns were poor. Now, investors are paying for megacap concentration — the Magnificent 7 represent ~34% of $SPX’s weight. That’s a single-factor bet disguised as diversification.

💸 The new problem: CapEx intensity

Markets used to pay up for Big Tech because these were cash machines. That story is breaking down. AI and infrastructure buildouts have pushed CapEx to 50–70% of EBITDA across Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, Meta, and Oracle. For perspective, AT&T hit 72% during the 2000 telecom bubble, and Exxon hit 65% during the 2014 energy bubble. Both cycles ended in wealth destruction.

The key point: higher capital intensity historically means structurally worse returns. When you shift from compounding free cash flow into heavy reinvestment, the valuation multiple you can justify compresses. Investors are now paying bubble-level multiples for businesses with bubble-level CapEx intensity.

📰 What is new right now

Street strategists have raised $SPX targets again post-Fed pivot, leaning into rate-cut optimism. But cheaper alternatives exist. Mid and small caps at 16–17× are giving you 6.0% earnings yields, a far healthier spread than large caps. That’s where the probability-weighted returns skew positively.

📊 The simple math of mispricing

• $SPX: 22.5× forward P/E = 4.4% earnings yield

• S&P 400/600: ~16–17× = 6.0%+ earnings yield

That’s a 160 bp gap in your favour if you rotate down the cap structure.

🔄 Playbook into Q4

I’m tilting toward value within quality: equal-weight $RSP over $SPY, and selective SMID exposure via $IJH and $IJR. Add profitability screens to avoid zombie leverage, but otherwise, the trade is clear: rotate where valuation is support, not resistance.

🗣️ One credible voice

Ed Yardeni last week: “It is currently 22.0, not much below the 25.0 peak of the 1999 Tech Bubble.” That frames the risk; upside requires perfect execution, while downside only needs one macro or earnings slip.

📚 Fun fact

CapEx intensity in AI leaders today is already higher than Exxon’s at the shale boom peak. That’s not innovation alpha, that’s bubble math.

🎯 Bottom line

I’m not calling a crash. I am saying the asymmetry is no longer in large caps. You’re paying 22.5× for declining free cash flow machines. You can accumulate durable earnings at 16–17× in SMID with fatter cushions and improving breadth into a rate-cutting cycle. That’s where the reward is.

👉❓Strategic question going forward

If AI-driven CapEx keeps running at 60–70% of EBITDA, can the market really sustain a 22–23× multiple on $SPX, or does history suggest valuation compression is inevitable?

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  • Kiwi Tigress
    ·2025-09-29
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    The way you lined up the valuation stretch with that JPM chart then dropped the CapEx intensity comparison is wild because it makes the AI trade feel like a rerun of 2000. I’m all in on the idea that $SPY is priced for perfection while $RSP and $IJH give actual cushion
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      KT exactly. That setup mirrors 2000, where perfection was priced in. $SPY demands flawless execution while $RSP and $IJH offer genuine margin of safety.
      2025-09-29
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      I appreciate you reading my article KT. Insights are always stronger when they’re part of a broader conversation, and your time spent here adds value to that dialogue.
      2025-09-29
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  • Tui Jude
    ·2025-09-29
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    The CapEx chart you dropped stood out to me. When $MSFT and $META are running 50–70 percent of EBITDA into spend, it’s tough to argue for premium multiples. That’s exactly what happened with $T in 2000 and $XOM in 2014, and both led to years of compressed returns.
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      TJ I agree. History shows high CapEx cycles like $T and $XOM compress multiples. With $MSFT and $META now in that zone, large cap valuations look increasingly fragile.
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      I’m grateful you took a moment to go through my post TJ. The more we can exchange thoughtful ideas, the better we can navigate both the opportunities and the risks in markets like these.
      2025-09-29
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  • 1PC
    ·2025-09-28
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      I’m grateful you reposted this, it shows the value of pushing ideas out wider 🤝📊
      2025-09-29
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      I appreciate you reading my post 1PC, it’s sharp minds like yours that keep me locked in.
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  • Hen Solo
    ·2025-09-29
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    📊 The thing that caught my eye was the equity risk premium basically at zero while $SPX trades at 22x. That’s the same setup Yardeni flagged near prior peaks. When you can get $IJR at 16x with a 6 percent yield, the rotation logic becomes too strong to ignore.
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      HS you’re right. With ERP near zero, $SPX at 22x is tough to justify. $IJR and $IJH at 16x with better earnings yields provide a safer and stronger return profile.
      2025-09-29
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      I’m grateful you took time to go through my post HS. The more we can exchange thoughtful ideas, the better we can navigate both the opportunities and the risks in markets like these.
      2025-09-29
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  • Queengirlypops
    ·2025-09-29
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    我对你的分解方式产生了共鸣,因为资本支出图表显示了泡沫能量。就像$AMZN和$MSFT一样,将一半的EBITDA花在基础设施上是疯狂的,而$SPX仍为22倍的事实让人感觉头重脚轻。转向中型股才是真正的动力所在🔋
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      ➖ᴴᴰ代表处,我们有一个很好的例子。🍀🍀🍀
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      问:完全正确。当$MSFT和$AMZN将一半的EBITDA投入资本支出,而$SPX的交易价格为22倍时,这就捉襟见肘了。中型股提供了更干净的估值缓冲。
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      我很感谢你通读我的作品Q,每一双眼睛都增加了对话的深度。
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  • Queengirlypops
    ·2025-09-29
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    I vibe with how you broke this down because that CapEx chart screams bubble energy. Like $AMZN and $MSFT spending half their EBITDA on infra is crazy and the fact $SPX is still at 22x just feels top heavy. Rotation into mid caps is where the real juice is 🧃🧃🧃
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      Q spot on. When $MSFT and $AMZN are throwing half of EBITDA into CapEx yet $SPX trades at 22x, it’s stretched. Mid caps give a much cleaner valuation cushion.
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      Thanks for your perspective Q, it sharpens how we all view momentum.
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  • Cool Cat Winston
    ·2025-09-29
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    📉我一直在思考JPM图表,我突然意识到,当$RSP和$IJH便宜6倍时,为$SPX支付22.5倍是不可持续的。人工智能资本支出的现金消耗感觉就像几年前AMZN的云赌注,只是现在自由现金流缓冲就不一样了。
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      我很欣赏你对《特定常规武器公约》的关注,每次交流都越来越清晰。
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      CCW你做到了。当$AMZN的资本支出呈扩张性时,它的现金利润率很高,但如今的SPX为22.5倍,风险回报却相反。16-17倍的SMID和更健康的收益率看起来更具吸引力。
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