[Events] How Much Money Do You Need to Retire?

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Have you ever wondered how much money is enough to retire comfortably? In a traditional model, that means accumulating enough savings so that you can withdraw some each year to fund your lifestyle while the remainder is allowed to grow.

According to the FIRE movement - short for financial independence, retire early - retirees should aim to save 25 times their annual income in retirement.

Your "FIRE number" is calculated by assuming that you can safely withdraw 4% of your portfolio per year, adjusted for inflation, without running out of money.

Do you believe in this principle ? How much money do you need to live comfortably when you retire? We would like to invite you to share your insights, and win Tiger coins

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  • koolgal
    ·2024-01-19
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    🌟🌟🌟FIRE - It's the magic acronym for Financial Independence Retire Early.  It is what I aspire to achieve.  It is not about having lots of money.  It is about having the freedom to live life to the fullest.  It is about mindful spending and not spending extravagantly.

    What is enough money to FIRE?

    It's different for everybody and a very personal perspective.   To some SGD 40,000 per annum is enough but to others it's SGD 10 million.   I will be happy with just SGD 2 million. 

    My goal is to have enough money so that I don't have to work if I don't want to.  I would love to collect dividends from my investment portfolio as a great source of passive income while I experience living in various places around the world.   I love to create wonderful memories of my travels to last a lifetime.

    That's what FIRE is for me!

    @TigerEvents  @TigerStars  @MillionaireTiger  @Tiger_comments  @TigerClub  @Tiger_SG

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    • koolgalReplying toJim1995
      Thanks 😍😍😍 May you be equally blessed too 🌈🌈🌈
      2024-01-25
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    • koolgalReplying toTimothyBarnes
      Thanks 😍😍😍FIRE is the ultimate goal to enjoy a life of freedom and independence 🌈🌈🌈
      2024-01-25
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    • TimothyBarnes
      Wow, FIRE sounds amazing! 🎉🔥 I totally agree! 🙌🌟
      2024-01-25
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  • Shyon
    ·2024-01-19
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    A simple formula to calculate how much you need for retirement!

    By rigt everyone should have some idea of how much you will need per month. If you are having trouble coming up with a number, try using your current monthly income and expenses as a starting point. Think about the kind of lifestyle your current monthly pay affords you and whether you will need more or less as a retiree. Remember: many of the things you are spending on in your 20s to 40s (e.g., a gym membership or mortgage payments) may not apply in your retirement. After factoring in expenses to support your dependents, remember to also buffer in some budget for healthcare, as health will become more of a concern as you age.

    Once you have arrived at a figure for your monthly retirement needs, follow this simple calculation to arrive at your ideal retirement amount:

    Monthly Retirement Needs x 12 months x (Estimated Years of Retirement)

    Or you can use Income's retirement calculator to get an estimate of how much you need for a comfortable retirement. The tools are available for free everywhere in the websites.

    @TigerStars  @CaptainTiger  @MillionaireTiger  @TigerPicks  @Tiger_comments  @TigerSG  @TigerClub

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    • ShyonReplying toYNWIM
      party, but not tesla
      2024-01-25
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    • ShyonReplying towubbie
      完全同意你的观点,谢谢分享。
      2024-01-25
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    • YNWIM
      Retire rich, party on!
      2024-01-25
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  • icycrystal
    ·2024-01-20
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    According to a 2019 study, a single man or woman aged 65 will need at least $1,379 a month to live at the most basic standards of living. A couple aged 65 and above will need $2,351 for the both of them.

    however, this does not cover extravagances like air-conditioning, a car, as well as any healthcare and long-term care costs you may need to fork out cash for.

    How much money do you need to live comfortably when you retire? - hard to say as it depends on individuals...

    as for me I try to be a minimalist and failing at it terribly [Sweats] [Sweats] [Sweats] I try to keep it simple and hope that I can travel around the world and do what I always have passion for...

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    • Shyon
      Good say, agree!
      2024-01-20
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    • icycrystalReplying tokoolgal
      [Heart]
      2024-01-20
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    • koolgal
      May you succeed in your quest to see the world 😍😍😍
      2024-01-20
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  • MHh
    ·2024-01-19
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    Wow specifically 25x of annual income for retirement. That is an inherent accoutance for lifestyle that one has been used to over the years and assuming keeping at the same lifestyle and no additional luxuries. In singapore, i think most would put it at at least 1 million to be sufficient for retirement
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  • mster
    ·2024-01-20
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    Personally i’d need US$1mil minimum, and totally debt free, no outstanding loan and what so ever.


    1st of all, to set aside SG$180k. This sum works out to be 5k of prudent monthly expenditure for 3 years. Why 3 years? Well, the rest of the fund which i’ve intend to place them all in the equity market if were to get stuck due to a bear market, averagly one would need about 2-3 years for the market to get back to its previous high. Thus the emergency fund will kick into gear while waiting for market to recover.
    Worked out a Trading/Investing system that will gives averagely 18-20% of annualized returns, every month will pay myself about SG$6k montly living expenses and re-invest the extra to futther compound the base.


    At the end of the day, best case scenario is we have a never ending US$1 million to live on.
    @CaptainTiger @MillionaireTiger @TigerEvents @TigerBrokers
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    • msterReplying tokoolgal
      😂😂 🔥🙏🙏
      2024-01-21
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    • koolgalReplying tomster
      We love the warmth of FIRE @mster 😁😁😁
      2024-01-21
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    • msterReplying tokoolgal
      For some reason we’re all running towards this FIRE. 😅. Thanks @koolgal 🙏🙏
      2024-01-21
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  • ZEROHERO
    ·2024-01-20
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    If there’re no more outstanding loans like house or car, I believe $1.5m is a comfortable sum to retire on. By investing the amount in SPY & QQQ with an average returns of 12% will fetch about $200k per year.


    Based on spending the 4% rule, one can afford to spend $60k per year and reinvest the rest so that the capital will never be dried up.


    Should the living standard gets too costly in the garden city, can also consider renting our existing house and move to the neighbouring condo when the exchange rate hits SGD1:MYR4 😉


    The rental of SGD4k will be converted in MYR16k per month. One can afford a diesel truck, live in a brand new condo, dine at restaurants and enjoy the Thai massages. The rule is to finish up the MYR16k cos it up be topped up the very next month! 🤩
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    • koolgalReplying toZEROHERO
      My pleasure 😍😍😍
      2024-01-21
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    • ZEROHEROReplying tokoolgal
      Thanks for reading! ☺️
      2024-01-21
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    • koolgal
      I love your FIRE plans!  It's simply amazing 😍😍😍
      2024-01-21
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  • Joeljp
    ·2024-01-21
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    Yes I want FIRE!!! I protect my downside first.  I think it's important to set aside enough money for rainy days to put aside into safe assets like money market funds. The rest will be used to generate passive incomes by means of dividends, options, investing and trading. I will be very happy to initiate FIRE after having $1 million and having proficient skills of generating monthly passive income of $5000 consistently. Time is one of the greatest assets. Life is short. Therefore, having time to do what I love,  improve my trading skills, travel the world, donating to charitable causes are my focus after FIRE.
    🔥🔥🔥 All the best to everyone too to achieve FIRE!!! 😃
    @TigerEvents @koolgal @Huatster @Huathk
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    • JoeljpReplying tokoolgal
      Thank you! Same for you too. Let's achieve and exceed FIRE!!! Have a blessed week ahead. 😃👍
      2024-01-21
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    • koolgal
      May you achieve FIRE soon. 😍😍😍🍀🍀🍀🌈🌈🌈
      2024-01-21
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  • SR050321
    ·2024-01-19
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    Just today in my post i mentioned i want to be able to travel from my dividend passive income, in the big picture enough money to be able to live any where in the world during my retirement is my dream, indeed i dont have alot, as long enough to rent a room and daily expenses. Now time is limited, due to work commitment, after retirement have time but money is limited 😂 so how the solution ? Start to save early my friend, young save and invest bulk of it as much as you can, so when older your life is easier. For myself i started late in the stock market (coming to 3 years) but i have fix plan that my source of income will be rental income, cpf, dividend and stock trading, in total at least i need a combine wealth at least 2 million of 2 persons (me n my spouse) in the form of property (hdb), cpf funds, and cash/FD/stock/gold. Is this achieveable ? Since this is a target for 2 people, hope we can achieve it ! 😍
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    • koolgal
      May you achieve your goal of FIRE 😍😍😍🌈🌈🌈
      2024-01-20
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  • Williamong
    ·2024-01-20
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    用我们年收入的25倍可能不准确。比如我只花了年收入的一半左右。


    因此,我认为25倍的预计支出加上10%的缓冲可能更合适。


    问题是我们很多人倾向于猜测。如果猜测的金额太高,比如1000万美元,可能很难实现。如果太低,比如80万美元,我们的退休生活可能会很悲惨。


    努力做我们的家庭作业!
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  • kyesayshi
    ·2024-01-20
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    Here's the deal, Assuming the Saved amount is put into investing, and we draw said 4% profit from it, the crux then would be this- would we be comfortable, in the run of 10days, that said investment dips a 3.2%-5%?

    With $1m as capital, are we able to stomach that $32k dip?💁‍♂️

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  • Nickpla
    ·2024-01-20
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    So many good insights from everyone.


    To FIRE properly, you have to assess your annual spending (includes your day to day expenses, holidays, loans etc). That will be the amount that you need to get from, lets say dividend.


    Thereafter, you set a target for your dividend portfolio that you are going after - 5-10%.


    I.e if your annual spending is $40k/year, at 5% rate of return, you will need $800k invested in stocks yielding 5%.
    This investible quantum decreases as you seek a higher dividend yield in your portfolio.


    However, you have to do your own due diligence as a higher yield may or may not always be a good thing.
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  • DavidSG
    ·2024-01-20
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    Financial Independence Retire Early may be something that most people would like to have.
    One way is through investment.
    The earliest one start, it will be easier. You need to stay invested and the investment will compound by itself if you are able to choose the right stocks or ETF.
    Currently, US market would be the investment to let you see through the years.
    Making the first 100k is slow but if you persevere the next 100k, 200k, 400k will come exponentially. And within 10-20 years, the Millions will be in your portfolio.
    No special secret, stay invested. Choose the right stocks (leaders with moat). Don't panic sell. Each time whenever the Market Bear come, buy during big dips in tranches when the intrinsic value of the stocks is reached.

    As the market recovers each time, you will see that your portfolio has doubled, tripled and many more folds
    Last but not least, remember to  give some profit to the community to make the world a better place!
    @icycrystal  @koolgal  @JC888

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    • koolgal
      感谢分享你的消防目标。愿你梦想成真。😍😍😍
      2024-01-21
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  • hanks1705
    ·2024-01-21
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    退休的钱数取决于许多因素,例如,生活方式,你想什么时候退休..还有你有多少公积金。计算你的开支。把这笔钱存起来,用它来产生你的开支。存多少取决于你的投资回报。如果你是保守的,把他们放在FD或MMF产生3.7%,每月支出是1.5,000美元,你需要节省50万美元。如果你在中央公积金中有FRS,那么它也将每月产生大约17000美元。希望所有人都能达到退休目标。
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  • TheStrategist
    ·2024-01-19
    The question is not how much money. We need continuous money throughout our lives, active and passive income well into our retirements or old age. You have to come out with plans to do so. Think long term not short term gains, that's the key
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  • AcidIce
    ·2024-01-19
    No need so much lah. Invest heavily now in all sorts vehicle for higher returns than banks like T-bills & dividends paying shares then when 4-5 years before retire buy a good enough ROI property to collect rent & stay with your kids can already.
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  • nickname223
    ·2024-01-19
    我觉得今天的钱300-400万可能就够了..取决于生活方式..如果房子付了钱。根据你退休的时间,即10年、20年等,需要向上调整以考虑通货膨胀..
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  • wine18
    ·2024-02-08
    hai @TigerEvents tomorrow next following day will be Chinese dragon new year. at  a lucky prosperous happy dragon new year Tiger broker not yet make any event meh?. we are hoping get any angpao from tiger broker event.  a big big huat for this year to tiger broker and for us.  @adeljusak @kungpao @cindyft @Bons @hansen14022
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  • Qing Cai
    ·2024-01-26
    As much money as possible as you never know how much you need. Got money got 安全感[Miser][Miser][Miser][Miser][Miser]
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  • StayCalm
    ·2024-01-26
    Money is never enough. Earn as much as you can, save & invest as much as you, spend as least as you can especially in retirement. Any excess money when gone can to beneficiaries. So dont end up outliving money.
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  • wine18
    ·2024-01-26
    Financial independence Retire Early. hope we all can get financial freedom. even tho not yet doing retirement. at least we have enough saving for rest of  our life @kungpao @indri @Bons @cindy
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